Where to buy good F3P Plane in UK!

[jamiekerr]

Hello all where in the UK is a good place to purchase a good selecton of F3P. I have searched and searched can't find anywhere. Do you have to make F3P Kits nowdays... Any help is Appreciated.. Thanks Jk ;)

[Aio_1]

.....Do you have to make F3P Kits nowdays... Any help is Appreciated.. Thanks Jk ;)
Robotbirds sell two biplanes called the Pipe (http://robotbirds.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=29_30&products_id=1196) and the Spice (http://robotbirds.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=29_30&products_id=439). I don't know if they're any good.

Kits are definitely not essential. It's almost as easy to build them from scratch. Just get a few sheets of 3mm depron and a few carbon rods and print a plan from the plans sticky. There's more than enough information easily available here to build your own or even design your own if you're so inclined.

Aidan

[jamiekerr]

Yea i may try and build one? thanks jk

[richard boyd]

Hi Jamie , what type of plane were you after a mono or a bi ? Are you intending to compete or is this for fun and practise ? I have found very few UK people interested in F3p so i would like to hear a little on how you are flying .

Richard

[heliphil]

Hi

I made up a copy of the Clik which seems fine. Cost me 1/2 a sheet of depron and some CF rod.

[jamiekerr]

Hi Jamie , what type of plane were you after a mono or a bi ? Are you intending to compete or is this for fun and practise ? I have found very few UK people interested in F3p so i would like to hear a little on how you are flying .

Richard

Um it's mainly fun and practice. I purchased a E-Flite Sobre precision foamy few weeks ago its good but still dosen't fufill my slow F3P need lol!. Can't be flown slowly at all. Its for in my garden/ flying field few mins away. I love the clik. But i would have to but whole new equipment, I have 6) 3S 400 batts. But I suppose F3P can really only be done indoors on extra light foamy, Clik is the only big/ outside plane I have seen. I would only use it outside in 0 wind. Have a EPP 3d plane for windy days.??? Thanks Jk :confused:
p.s. Plane wise either really, would love to try a BI-Plane never had one before.. Love the Fancy Foam Vrolet F3P Buts its in America postage :censored:

[Aio_1]

If your gear is bigger than typical F3P size but you plan to fly outdoors anyway you could just scale up the design to keep the wing loading down. Low speed is all about low wing loading. Aim for about 3oz/sqft for a typical ~800mm span plane to get F3P type speeds. Wing loading becomes less critical at larger sizes but still try to keep it light. My index for example spanned 900mm and had about 17.4sqdm (228sqin) of wing area. It weighed 190g (6.7oz). That's a wing loading of about 3.6oz/sqft which I would regard as a little heavy even for this slightly oversize design but it still handled very well and could fly very slowly.

Aidan

[Aio_1]

I just saw your response in the other thread.
Hyperion 3S 400,
Hyperion-z 2205/46,
Hyperion 10 amp esc.
Either 4 9g servo's,
1) HS 55
3) 5.6G
This sort of gear would be about the norm for Shockflyers which fly fine indoors but I'd be inclined to go bigger and slower. The gear listed is about double the weight used for typical F3P planes. I'd suggest scaling up one of the designs in the F3P Plans sticky for a wing area between about 20sqdm to 23sqdm (310sqin to 356sqin) for monoplanes or about 30% more for biplanes. Keep the construction light (3mm depron and very light carbon rods will still do at this size).

Aidan

[jamiekerr]

yea i may have to do that! jk

[richard boyd]

Hi jamie , if your only starting an ikarus F3a will suit you fine . You can get them at most good model shops . I see alot of the local guys flying the bi-yak from e-flite . This is not an F3P plane but they do fly well on the 3 cell batterys you have and they can handle the wind . Again any good model shop should sell them . I am trying to get more people here interested in F3P but is hard to get large halls to practise . I fly the Future bi plane , its slow and forgiving and im only getting the plane set right after 25 batterys , so it takes time .

[jamiekerr]

Yea well the E-Flite Sobre is a similar sort of plane to the Ikarus f3a. Like the sobre, but I have fund that shipping and a Vrolet F3P Plane will cost £44 roughly shipped too. Not to bad, but really want to try the Vrolet F3P?? JK

[Andycap]

Take a look at the two new models coming from E-flite.

Also Horizon Hobby Uk also bring in the BPLR Reflex, its pricy but easy to draw around when you purchase the kit.

Andy

[jamiekerr]

Ok kool thanks ill take a view at them, Tried the Horizon Hobby uk one and cant find the right website, Have you got the link thanks Jk

P.S. I have seen the New E-Flite Enticment, but what is the other model your talking about ? :confused:

[richard boyd]

Jamie remember the custom charge and the £8 handling charge from Parcel Force , i have bought what i think is ok and then been hit by goverment charges and this hurts ! You might look at some of the European shops like slowflyer .com they might be a little more expensive to start but no hidden charges and great guys who are at the top of there field . Motors etc. are good and the Europeans lead they way in indoor flyin lol .

[jamiekerr]

So you recommend sloflyer? Its hard I see what your saying but I have my heart on a Vrolet. Not even sure why lol! JK Which planes from slowflyer do you recommend ?

[richard boyd]

Hi Jamie , take a look at www.slowflyworld.de the Knuffel if you like mono planes or the Smove if you a bi plane person , the nose is made of EPP and help protect the model when you have those unforseen nose ins . I fly the Future and Futurion by Donatas check them out at www.pauzuolis-rc.com , i think there is nothing to touch the Futurion for my style of flying .

[jamiekerr]

Nice what is the mono knuffel?? like jk
I have only seen vids of the mid motor one??

[jamiekerr]

Yea I still have my eye on the Vrolet.. I really don't see how soon I will not get one lol.. jk Unless there's another plane that takes my fancy.

[Bubba Gump]

I flew a Vrolet saturday and was not impressed at all. My new Foamy Fusion is a lot better. It is monoplane and itis 6.2 oz with battery. and I can get it light than that. The vrolet was at 5.5 with battery and had dymonds in it too. The Foamy fusion will be offered by Dynamic Foamy her soon I think

[jamiekerr]

Really, what were you not impressed about. Everyone I have spoken too love's them ?? Really interested to know. I assume it was the Vrolet Freestyle. Thanks Jk

[Bubba Gump]

Nope it was the F3P version, and it did not snap like my new foamy fusion. And it did not roll axial.

[jamiekerr]

Anyone have anymore websites for me to look at jk

[Bubba Gump]

the index is pretty good airplane that is what I flew for the last 2 months.

[jamiekerr]

Which one it that have you got a link thanks agian jk

[Bubba Gump]

it is the plans sticky

[jamiekerr]

kl thx jk

[Andycap]

http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL1175

http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL1125

Have a look at these two

Andy

[jamiekerr]

Yea there nice but only in usa needs to be in Uk thanks anyway. jk

[Jerry Combs]

Egad, the Divo is one heavy bird! They say 7.5 ounces and up.

[jamiekerr]

which is most suited to my setup.the vrolet or the aito or the byp yak jk

[richard boyd]

JK i would go with the bi-yak , with your set up ! Ihave flew a yak in 15mile per hr winds it is a heaven sent plane outside and it is ready to fly in a few hours all the work is done for you and you will enjoy the knife edge and rolls its a great plane for outside and i have flown one indoors , the setup was heavy and i was doing rolling circles in a 28 ft wide hall . The price is abit much at £50 but when u see the box opened its good value . What ever plane u decide on ! enjoy your flyin

[jamiekerr]

That almost mad me cry the last bit, yea i think that you have now probally secured the byp thanks richard. jk

[richard boyd]

JK , its a good alround first foamy type plane , looks good flys on rails , will do all the moves and it's simple to build and a wise choice . I bought an ikarus yak every week wanted to do all the moves and i paid for it lol . Keep your eye on the goal you have and forget about the cost ,fun and experiance doesnot come cheap . Keep us posted on how your coming on and have fun .

Richard

[jamiekerr]

Thanks richard will do probally next week may order it jk

[jamiekerr]

What is your verdict on the tensor 4D, I have been fidiling with it on g3 and love the way it flies on there.!! wind and that I can imagine dont mix well at all jk??

[Andycap]

The Tensor's foam is very brittle. I believe its the screen printing method used to colour the depron that makes it so brittle. The later Eflite models dont seem to suffer the same problems. I too love the way it flies. Mine flew with the recommended eflite 370 motor but just 2s1p 350 cells. Flight times for f3p style flying were just over 5 minutes with this set up. BTW the new eflite models will be available in the uk!

[jamiekerr]

Yea I have heard that too, Im currently using the E-Flite Sobre Really nice plane it's had a bashing, So I have now finally orderd the Byp Yak, Just because. It's Slightly better suited to wind, And slighly More Durable Jk

[richard boyd]

SMC is selling them about £50 delivered did you get one cheaper .

Richard

[jamiekerr]

Yea was £44.99, SMC. but I paid the price of it being out of stock. Dosen't matter though im away next week so its ok jk

[Oli-ProDesigns]

i shall soon be offering a wide range of indoor models mostly concentrated on F3P but all will be available ready to fly if required .
see my website which is new and lots of work in progress .

no one offers this service . first thing how can u transport a ready built depron model .. collection or delivery only . people that order them will be serious buyers after a serious bit of kit .
people not prepared to travel will have them cut-painted- ready to build with all the gear if required :)

www.prolutiondesigns.co.uk - proffesional evolution in ready to fly F3P

so check back soon !

all models made to order to your spec !

wish me luck

Any idea's welcome :cool:

[cmeijer]

http://www.svensktmodellflyg.se/users/1257/mm-acro-web.jpg
Hi UK pilots
It is easy to ship from Sweden to UK.
You find my new Shark Acro on this forum.(F3p)

best regards from ETOC pilot Claes Meijer
www.meijer-models.eu
meijermodels@gmail.com

[3DDICKY]

Hello , i have now purchased my first F3P plane , from www.expressfly.co.uk . I went for a Clik after lots of studying different threads on RC groups . I also purchased from Expressfly my servos ( JR 185 ) and 6amp speed controller and micro receiver . Carbon tubing is going to be used for push rods and 1mm for making the fus ridged , like Derks Clik . Vytas motor and evo 350 battery is great on the CLIK . Expressfly gave me tremendous service , i ordered my items on a Monday morning and i recieved them the next day , Richard has given me so much advice on my first F3P build .

RJ

[3-DMan]

What about Martin Muller's Manta2? :) http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2emamo%2dmodelltechnik%2ecom%2f

[richard boyd]

Thanks RJ , it is always a pleasure to help and encourage new pilots into F3P . You will get the rewards for time spent buildng your new Clik from www.expressfly.co.uk . I look forward to your pictures and of course coments .

Richard

[Andycap]

Richard we need some more bad weather to drive the guys back indoors again and get some more practice in :-D

[richard boyd]

Andy it is the time of year . grass cutting and the big outdoors , never wish bad weather .

Richard

[Andycap]

Ive flown nearly every morning for the last three weeks before work. Great when you have a big grass verge out side of the house :-D Grass definatley needs cutting though. Its just like our indoor site anyway, instead of the cheese wire that holds the curtains up I have a telelphone wire to play with. Looking forward to the new MPX Parkmaster due towards the end of the month...

[3DDiky]

Hello , i have now purchased my first F3P plane , from www.expressfly.co.uk . I went for a Clik after lots of studying different threads on RC groups . I also purchased from Expressfly my servos ( JR 185 ) and 6amp speed controller and micro receiver . Carbon tubing is going to be used for push rods and 1mm for making the fus ridged , like Derks Clik . Vytas motor and evo 350 battery is great on the CLIK . Expressfly gave me tremendous service , i ordered my items on a Monday morning and i recieved them the next day , Richard has given me so much advice on my first F3P build .

RJ

Thanks RJ , it is always a pleasure to help and encourage new pilots into F3P . You will get the rewards for time spent buildng your new Clik from www.expressfly.co.uk . I look forward to your pictures and of course coments .

Richard

especialy the coments . and the pictures ! clikety clik !

[jamiekerr]

Hey guys long time no see eh! Well im now very intrested in the clik! :)

[N81U]

I would be happy to send over some Pocket Knife F3P models, get a great flying plane and take advantage of the strong euro at the same time.

Check out these flights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppSyBUOfj9A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZISmqx-NtLM&feature=related

[jamiekerr]

Hey guys and galz.. Im now wondering what is the best F3P type foamy avaliable in the uk.. For a Profile plane setup?? Setup for like The Ikarus range.. What is the best one for f3p?? Ikarus F3P?? What is your thoughts.
JK

P.S. Would my setup work in the Click for exspressfly??? would that would ok or not...

[Andycap]

JK the only true F3P models being sold in the UK at the moment that I know to is the Clik from www.expressfly.org.uk and the Eflite Enticement. I personally didn't enjoy my Enticement but thats just my opinion, this doesnt make it a bad model. Off the shelf motors like the Hacker A10 15S with Flightpower 2S 350 evolites get the big thumbs up from me.

I produce my own kits for AM competition and are still trying to produce the right model for my own style in F3P. For my money right now buy a Clik.

Andy

[jamiekerr]

Would you say me setup will do ok in the clik??

[Aio_1]

Jamie,

You do need to tell us what set-up you're talking about ;)
If you still have in mind the Hyperion 2205 and 3s 400mAh cells then the answer is the same as it was earlier: that gear is double the weight of typical F3P gear. It will fly these planes but won't perform as intended. Look for a 15g to 20g motor and similar weight cells. Andy's suggestion is spot on.

[jamiekerr]

Yea.. So the clik is a no no with my setup? The one you just stated...

[richard boyd]

Jamie for flying indoors F3P or AM ( aeromusical ) your gear may be on the heavy side , as light weight is a governing factor in indoor flying . An Ikarus F3P would handle your gear for outside use , but again this is on the heavy side .
The eflite Yak , i mentioned to you earlier in this thread is a good choice .
If you are now planing to fly indoors then you will have to rethink about your equipment , Aidan and Andy have given you pointers as to motors etc.

Richard

[jamiekerr]

Yea.. I think thinking about it.. Ill stick to the outside foamies.. I have a Byp Yak but the equip is not powerfull enough.. And it slightly damaged.. Will need new motor ect.. so I may just purchase a Ikarus Yak 54 and use my setup Me thinks...

[jamiekerr]

What is you fav foamy like the ikarus ones.. that will do bit of 3D and some sloppy F3P.. ? That will compliment my setup thx jk. I havn't been flying ect.. for a while.. so trying to get bck into it lol

[richard boyd]

Jamie my favourite Ilarus foamy was the Yak .
Purchase a 20g 1500-1700 KV motor , you will see a few in robotbirds that are very cheap £7-£10 .
You will get great service here http://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=37_72&osCsid=6ad71d706a7d5e9cb3da6518ceddcc42 for your Yak !
If you know your way around a battery pack , simple take one cell out of your 3 cell pack and reduce it to 2 cells , use the spare cells to make up another 2 cell pack .
If you still donot want to go depron and do all the changes then take alook at the Boom http://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37_119&products_id=1989&osCsid=6ad71d706a7d5e9cb3da6518ceddcc42 . There are build threads available here on RC groups . What ever way you go have fun and enjoy your flying !

Richard
expressfly.co.uk

[jamiekerr]

Ok, yea thanks will probally go yak cheers!

[jamiekerr]

Another annoying question.. Which of the F3P Plane plans id best flyer... Which has that little thing saying better than the rest.. And how much depron would you need to complete the avarage foamy plane?? I have never made my own and I would like to try thanks
JK