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marvintoast123

Oct 03, 2007, 12:53 AM

who is the best trex pilot in the world?

willhaney

Oct 03, 2007, 01:01 AM

This should be good. :)

moosemanty

Oct 03, 2007, 01:38 AM

for a 450, i honestly think Jason Chow (Driftinsequence)
i don't even think the szabos could touch him on a 450. his skills are beyond mastery. i have NEVER seen any one handle trex in the air like him. :D

marvintoast123

Oct 03, 2007, 12:49 PM

ive seen nick maxwells videos from rcuniverse and from the align 2006 funfly very cool and i didn't know that my trex could do it.

willhaney, i know its very controverseil but i like to watch out for videos of the best pilots in the world.

glad driftingsequence is local, i want to check him out at the next funfling

hakim

Oct 04, 2007, 02:39 PM

you gotta post some vids!

Johnny B

Oct 04, 2007, 02:55 PM

Where are the vid's?

moosemanty

Oct 04, 2007, 06:05 PM

PM brovic777 and ask him for vids of jason.... Victor has tons of video of him... even a vid or two in his blog :)

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=131528

brovic777

Oct 05, 2007, 06:27 PM

PM brovic777 and ask him for vids of jason.... Victor has tons of video of him... even a vid or two in his blog :)

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=131528

I'll get an extreme JChow Vid up soon. Re-Editing it now!!!

brovic777

Oct 06, 2007, 12:50 AM

Here it is:

Right Click to Download:
Jason Chow flying Extreme 3D on Trex 450se Video Mix (http://schc.servtex.com/HDVids/JChow/JasonTrex450MixHD2.0NEW.wmv)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy0kPCCHdAE

driftinsequence

Oct 06, 2007, 12:52 AM

whose driftinsequence??

moosemanty

Oct 06, 2007, 01:05 AM

whose driftinsequence??

you know, it's that that SCHC asain guy with the straw hat that can control a trex like no other?!?!?!? :D :cool: :D lol ;)

P-38J-Lightning

Oct 06, 2007, 01:13 AM

whose driftinsequence??
Some lame newb who thinks he can fly good ;)

:p

Joel :D

Reman

Oct 06, 2007, 03:46 PM

Leon Luke rocks the 450...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HUOsItufXTU

arclite5

Oct 06, 2007, 11:07 PM

There's a ton of great 450 pilots ;D

Google "3D Masters 2007" and look at the 450 class winners to see the "official" best guys. Though there's probably a bunch of great guys who don't compete.

-Kyle

brovic777

Oct 06, 2007, 11:22 PM

Here's a vid I shot a couple months back of Bert Magbanua flying his Mini-Titan e325 on 4s.

Right click to save Video:
Pro Bert Magbanua flying the Mni-Titan on 4s Video (http://schc.servtex.com/HDVids/BMagbanua/Bert4sMiniTitanHD2.0NEW.wmv) 61mb's

YouTube for quick view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzR7oUeSzR8

ifoguy

Oct 25, 2007, 11:09 AM

I enjoyed watching this video of Chris Harmon tearing up the skies with an almost stock T-Rex 450 SE:

http://www.theastonisher.com/ChrisHarmon/450SE-V2-3D.wmv

squeakywaffle

Oct 31, 2007, 04:07 AM

that jason chow dude with the hat has some fairly savage moves, I haven't seen anyone on youtube who can compete with him flying a t-rex.

clicky

Oct 31, 2007, 06:06 AM

If not the best pilot but one of emerging ones: Justin Chi?

LOL

Poor my little son. He is 4 now (and 4 days) - so it looks like he is going to be now tortured to hate helicopters ;). If this Justin can fly like that - so my son can learn as well! LOL O: )

aaronredbaron

Nov 05, 2007, 07:49 PM

Bert is one of the best, there is also Colin Bell from team TT. There is also Bobby Watts, Bert Kammerer, Justin Chi, Nick Maxwell, Russ McCutcheon, Alan and Danny Szabo, Brian Regular, Leon Luke..... there are so many good pilots out there, Jason Chow is very good, but there are lots of very good pilots. Who is truly the best? I dunno, and i have seen many of the top pilots fly in person :rolleyes:

Jason Chow

Nov 06, 2007, 12:47 AM

crazy....never thought id make it up there, those are some serious names.

Reman

Nov 07, 2007, 01:04 AM

What about Ray Nemovi? He flies at my local field (Scripps) and he rocks the T-Rex.

he gets my vote...

But Jason's awesome too...

brovic777

Nov 07, 2007, 01:08 AM

What about Ray Nemovi? He flies at my local field (Scripps) and he rocks the T-Rex.

he gets my vote...

But Jason's awesome too...

Yea, Rey Nemovi is really good. There is also Jason Bell that rocks too!!

lollo

Nov 08, 2007, 07:23 AM

Hi,
about t-rex pilots:

little indoor video
http://www.tuks.ch/video/Fevi2.wmv

Lollo

marvintoast123

Nov 08, 2007, 12:25 PM

is there any competitions for 450 helicopters? im a very big wrestling fan and there is the big boys wrestling matches and then there are the smaller ones. ive seen 3d masters and xfc where everyone is flying a 90 but more people have a 450 size. it would be cool to see

also, are there any videos that help with 3d. i find myself stuck now. i can't do much more than some flipping around and inverted flight.

bkammerer

Nov 12, 2007, 10:04 AM

xeispen

Nov 12, 2007, 11:52 AM

Wow, nice flying :p

That's some power, what HS is it running?

bkammerer

Nov 12, 2007, 12:10 PM

Close to 4000 on the head, almost no bog at all with over +/- 14 degrees. :)

Bert

moosemanty

Nov 12, 2007, 12:16 PM

Close to 4000 on the head, almost no bog at all with over +/- 14 degrees. :)

Bert

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: i want one!! :D

brovic777

Nov 12, 2007, 05:29 PM

Hey guys, this has nothing to do with who is the best, but since you're talking about 450's, I figure I show you a video I did last week testing the "Scorpion" motor. I am so impressed with the power this motor produces, this is by far the most powerful 450 I have ever flown to date. Let me know what you guys think!

HD Video: http://www.bertrc.com/heli_videos/bert_kammerer_scorpion-6_test.wmv

Bert Kammerer

Oh yea Bert K. Freaken Nice.

I just installed one of these Scorpion HK2221-6 motors on my Mini-Titan. I keep telling people this is one of the sickest motors out on the market for 450 heli's, but they don't listen. I compare the motor to a Nue motor, but at 1/3 the cost.

I'm running mine on a 10t though, so I don't kill myself with the 525watts of raw monster power!!! :D

Jason Chow

Nov 12, 2007, 05:57 PM

what pinion is that running? you got my complete attention.

Reman

Nov 12, 2007, 07:56 PM

DAYUM! Is that legal???!!! LOL

Ok now I need one of those, thanks Bert...

bkammerer

Nov 12, 2007, 08:43 PM

moosemanty

Nov 12, 2007, 09:05 PM

how much $$ is this motor?

bkammerer

Nov 12, 2007, 09:17 PM

I think it retails for $49.00.

Bert

moosemanty

Nov 12, 2007, 09:34 PM

I think it retails for $49.00.

Bert

sweet :cool: i have $60 in my heli funds right now :D

brovic777

Nov 12, 2007, 10:12 PM

Thanks guys. Yeah, the 11t pinion is a little bit too much head speed. The power is obscene. Unless you're going to fly like a maniac out of control you don't want that pinion. I'm going to play with a 10 and a 9 to see how I like them. I'm only getting 3 minutes now with the 11 tooth and the TP 2100 Extreme v2 packs. I'll let you guys know my opinion on smaller pinions.

Bert

Man, and I just got a 10t pinoin for it which now I know will be probably too much headspeed. I'll need 9t for sure. Man, maybe even 8t!!! Anybody know where to get 8t and 9t pinions at 3.17mm shaft size?

I just want nice solid raw power with no bog at 3000rpm headspeed.

Reman

Nov 12, 2007, 10:20 PM

and it's worth every penny...

btw, nice flying Bert, that was awesome...

Reman

Nov 12, 2007, 10:21 PM

Man, and I just got a 10t pinoin for it which now I know will be probably too much headspeed. I'll need 9t for sure. Man, maybe even 8t!!! Anybody know where to get 8t and 9t pinions at 3.17mm shaft size?

I just want nice solid raw power with no bog at 3000rpm headspeed.

aw, just go 12 tooth...but be sure to video it, we all want to know what 5000 headspeed looks like...

:D

moosemanty

Nov 12, 2007, 10:25 PM

aw, just go 12 tooth...but be sure to video it, we all want to know what 5000 headspeed looks like...

:D

make sure to take a radar gun out with you so you can clock how fast the blades go when they fly off :D

lol... i will probably get this motor, but i can only afford woodies :o so i will deffinetly need a 8 or 9t... i just want 3000 HS that's unboggable :)

Reman

Nov 12, 2007, 10:35 PM

You'd have to find the sweet spot on that motor. I know my JGF 500 will bog slightly with a 12 or 13T but with a 14 its ballistic and it doesn't bog at all.

This Scorpion sounds like overkill... and theres nothing wrong with that... :D

702nitro

Nov 12, 2007, 11:13 PM

My vote goes to Chris Harmon. He flys extremely fast, precise, and doesn't fly all over the place. Reminds me of how AS Jr flies. :)

brovic777

Nov 12, 2007, 11:25 PM

aw, just go 12 tooth...but be sure to video it, we all want to know what 5000 headspeed looks like...

:D

I got a 17t pinion I can slap on there and let Jason Chow take it for a spin at 6000rpm speed!!! :D :D :D

brovic777

Nov 13, 2007, 01:28 AM

Here's the 10t pinion I got from my emergency heli store.

10t Part# 67108 Steel Pinion for Astro 010 ( 10T )

http://www.helihobby.com/html/piccolo_modifications.html#PART67108

http://www.helihobby.com/assets/images/pin32mm.jpg

bkammerer

Nov 13, 2007, 09:23 AM

I need to get a good tach to check the head speed. On paper this thing should not be going that fast, but for some reason my tach showed almost 4 K. I'm sure the tach is not working right. Hard to tell, I'll post my findings later.

Bert

marvintoast123

Nov 13, 2007, 10:01 AM

brovic777

Nov 13, 2007, 10:15 AM

i guess each pilot has their own set of moves they like to do. to each their own. i really wanted to see some kick a$$$ videos on here more than anything.

i also know what motor to get for my 450 for christmas even though i probably dont need one, hehe

Christmas???? That soo far away. Its only $49 bucks dude. I got mine from RC Dude:

http://www.rcdude.com/servlet/the-717/Scorpion-Brushless-Outrunner-Motor/Detail

BTW, I tached my head last night at 70% flat throttle curve with 10t pinion and I was running 2650rpm's. I think I'm good to go with this setup. 85-95% throttle curve should put me somewhere at 3000rpm's which is perfecto for me!!! :)

Trisquire

Nov 13, 2007, 01:55 PM

Does Kyle Stacey fly a trex? I think I saw him at the JR Indoor. He's amazing.

Tom

bkammerer

Nov 13, 2007, 09:05 PM

Kyle is an awesome pilot indeed. He has come a long way within the past year. Great dad & son team!

OK, I tached this thing today at 100% throttle with ThunderPower Extreme v2 packs and I got 3800 on the head with the 11 tooth pinion. Will try 10 tooth soon, should have more torque with 10 tooth.

Bert

moosemanty

Nov 13, 2007, 09:08 PM

ok, guess who just bought the last in stock scorpion motor? :cool:

but any one have a spare 10t pinion that they want to sell? my heli funds are down to about $5 :(

hurleybt

Nov 13, 2007, 11:52 PM

Best flying I've ever seen was Szabo Jr testing the rex-500... ridiculous... he really looked like he was trying to rip it apart in the air. For a 450, I like Jason chow.

Cooker

Nov 15, 2007, 12:23 PM

Having just watched a few of the vids on youtube its a WOW for Chow ..

What would be cool is if there were some splt screen vids with one half heli one half tx .. like from a neck cam ...

Nick Maxwell

Nov 15, 2007, 12:47 PM

I have been using the Scorpion motors for quite a while now and they perform insane. About 6 months ago when I was first doing testing on the 2221-6 prototype I was just in awe. Now I use the 2221-6 with the 55amp ESC. 11 tooth pinion it ends up with a 3700 headspeed at 90% throttle. I could run 100% but if you pay close attention you will see the motors efficency rating is around 93% where it is at its most efficient. So actually in my opinion I can't tell a difference in power at 90% compared to 100% but I get about 1 more min. of flight time.

I am getting around 6 mins to even 7 mins of 3D with that set-up. Drawing only 2100mAh out of a 2500mAh Flight Power Evo Lite. Insane performance on the new Miniature Aircraft 450.

As most know, www.innov8tivedesigns.com stocks these motors. If you read on the web site you can see the progression of the motors, and it gives good charts on which motor will be the best for you. For some people the 2221-8 motor will be better. It tends to run cooler, and give a little bit longer flight times.

The 2221-6 motor is SPECIFICALLY designed for 325mm-340mm blade length helicopters.

Nick

Edit: Here are some numbers and specs that back up this motor, as you can see the temps of the motor are very very low. This is on the 150main gear and 11 tooth pinion:

New HK-2221-6 Helicopter Motor getting Rave Reviews:
A couple months ago, the Scorpion company received a request for a new helicopter motor with a little more punch than the already popular HK-2221-8 model, for use in the slightly larger 480 class machines that were being introduced. They came back with the new HK-2221-6 model, that has a Kv of 4400, and can handle 50 amps of current on a 3-cell pack for 525 watts of power! Scorpion sponsored test pilot, Nick Maxwell, recently amazed the crowds at a Heli fly-in with his Gazaur Poseidon 480 helicopter, that is powered with one of the new Scorpion HK-2221-6 motors and a Scorpion 55 amp ESC. The temperature that day was 90 degrees, and after 4 minutes of intense 3D flying, the temperature of the motor was only 95 degrees, and the ESC was only 109 degrees! To see this motor in action in Nick's helicopter, please watch the HK-2221-6 Flight Demo Video. For more information on this motor, check out the HK-2221-6 Motor Specs.

Jason Chow

Nov 15, 2007, 04:38 PM

Nick, the motor looks very good. the flight times, the temperature all are fantastic. how do you compare this to your medusa, 28-40-3400?

Nick Maxwell

Nov 15, 2007, 08:39 PM

This kicks the Medusa's butt. It generates about 500RPM more to the rotor head, has in increase in the amount in torque and runs so cool its not even funny.

That Medusa would take skin off after a flight if you touched it. Also I was only getting 4-5 mins with the Medusa. The main thing also with this motor how it treats the batterys so well and the ESC, and itself. Since nothing is really being pushed to hard, that means more life expectency out of the batteries, ESC, motor, etc. From what I understand it takes over 300degrees F to demag this motor. We are only getting within a little under 1/3 of that temp. So the motor, apart from bearings wearing out should, on paper, last forever.

Nick

marvintoast123

Nov 15, 2007, 10:04 PM

nick, i am thinking about one of these motors what esc is that your running? i see 55amp?

Innov8tive

Nov 16, 2007, 12:52 AM

Hi Guys,

I am glad to see that you are enjoying the Scorpion Motors. Nick Maxwell is running a box stock Scorpion HK-2221-6 motor with a stock Scorpion 55 amp ESC with the factory default programming. It is by far the best set-up you can buy for a 450 class heli. The retail price of the motor and ESC together is under $110.00, providing the best bang for the buck out there.

Thanks for the great feedback!

Lucien Miller

Innov8tive Designs

Exclusive US Importer and Distributor of Scorpion Motors and ESC's

brovic777

Nov 16, 2007, 01:05 AM

tdab

Nov 18, 2007, 12:06 PM

who is the best trex pilot in the world?

It's you

Jason Chow

Nov 18, 2007, 04:01 PM

here is a video of this weekend. my stock but lightened trex 450. check out segment 1:50 min in the video :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lbHuGsJYeCw

Jason Chow

Nov 18, 2007, 04:13 PM

hey nick, this past weekend i got a chance to try the scoporion motor, it is powerful, however im not getting the flight time. running 10t pinion, scorpion 6 motor, align esc, kong power batteries/flight power batteries 2200mah. ran woodies on it also. this was on the mini-titan. got 3 minutes and 30 seconds. the motor ran cool, the battery was hot like the medusa?

Nick Maxwell

Nov 18, 2007, 07:41 PM

The Align ESC is seriously inefficent compared to the Scorpion 55 amps. I have also tried Kong Power. Honestly, they don't live up to their rating. Really the Flight Power or Thunder Power are the way to go. Also I use 2500 mAh packs. So I can draw quite a bit more out of them. Flight Power 2200, not sure on that one as I have never used it. But unless it is a Evo lite, or Evo 25/30 it will not handle this motor as well as the new Flight Power.

Power wise, remember, the better the battery holds it voltage the less amps you are going to pull. Lower V=higher amps.
So if you can get a pack that is 2200mAh, but holds at least 10.5V under load. You will get much better flight times. Usually on most packs you will get a voltage drop of down to 9.5-9.7V, and very few recover well after that happens in a flight. Again, if you can find a pack that can drop that low, then recover to the previous voltage, you gain flight time.

After a full flight I draw roughly 2100-2200mAh and the voltage is at around 10.9-11.2V

On the Mini-titan, I am not sure of the gear ratio. The best gear ratio for duration/ performance is 13.6:1

Nick

Cooker

Nov 18, 2007, 08:58 PM

OK obviously I don't push mine anywhere near what you guys do, but I picked up a kong power battery on Friday .. Its only had 4 cycles so far but even I noticed that the kong power seemed to keep power better right through the flight than my usual Tp2100 PLs .. the flight times were 'about' the same (because of the xtra weight - 80g I think it is .. I got maybe an extra minute) but the kongs are 25c and the TPs are 24c (if I remember)

(And this is after I shorted the Kong battery trying to get the align type balance plug off to swap with a tp type plug :s .. it charged & worked fine today :) It shorted on my finger but the burns are fine too ... :s - Make Kong a touch cheaper & include a balance adapter ;) & you can almost forget about the extra weight)

If they CAN sort the weight out & slim a bit off the price (not a problem for some of us I think lol ) then I like em - so far - fwiw

Altho I did do a max th take off which just resulted in a vertical spin & the stock 40a ESC shutting down .. it was fine after a reset ..

logolover

Nov 23, 2007, 08:35 PM

jason could you tell me what's the exact weight of your 450se w/batt

Reman

Nov 23, 2007, 11:20 PM

DAMN Jason, you're tearing it up nowadays! I may have to retract my vote for Leon Luke. Although both of you have unique styles that I really like. Forget college dude, just go pro! LOL

The only thing that would make that video better is to edit out Vic's commentary. haha

Or actually it might be funny to have him saying BAM! every once in a while...