View Full Version : Question Whats the difference between a UAV and a model airplane?
JetPlaneFlyer
Sep 19, 2007, 02:02 PM
As the subject line says... what's the difference?
I read some place that a UAV was a unmanned aircraft that performed a 'job of work' other than recreational. Is this the way you guys see it?
Steve
kd7ost
Sep 19, 2007, 02:19 PM
I think it depends on who you ask. I don't think it’s always that clear. I mean in a literal sense. Throw a Frisbee and it's an aerial vehicle at the time of flight that is unmanned. However the distinction should be made for controlled flight not just a thrown projectile. I would say most guys would be comfortable with your description but you still have to limit it. Putting a GPS and guidance package on board a model plane, flying it off autonomously beyond you ability to see, hear or control it just for recreation and it won't likely be looked at as a model plane any more.
I think the AMA reg's probably come closest to defining what a model plane is.
Dan
zlite
Sep 19, 2007, 02:48 PM
I'd say that UAVs have to have the ability for autonomous navigation, whether it's used or not. And I agree that the potential to do useful work should be part of the definition.
JetPlaneFlyer
Sep 19, 2007, 03:32 PM
I'd say that UAVs have to have the ability for autonomous navigation, whether it's used or not. And I agree that the potential to do useful work should be part of the definition.
I'd say you have to be pretty careful about putting in a 'autonomous flight capability' into the definition... The Mosquito 1 (http://www.defense-update.com/products/m/mosquito.htm) which most people would I imagine consider to be a 'genuine' UAV would be ruled out if this was a criteria.
Steve
zik
Sep 19, 2007, 06:07 PM
I think what we call UAVs here is different from what the rest of the world calls UAVs. By definition radio controlled model planes are UAVs - they're unmanned aerial vehicles. Most commercial UAVs are usually radio controlled by a human operator so they're very similar.
What we call UAVs here really refers to autonomous or semi autonomous flight. Some commercial UAVs do that, some don't. I occasionally refer to my own work as "autonomous planes" to avoid this confusion.
But in the end we know what we're talking about even if it is confusing!
macboffin
Sep 19, 2007, 06:35 PM
The AMA, BMFA, MAAC etc consider any unmanned aircraft intended to operate part or all of the time beyond the vision of the operator as a UAV.
I don't think size comes into it ; there are six inch span UAVs, and some pushing two hundred feet span.(Boeing Condor, Helios, Global Hawk etc.)
patrickegan
Sep 21, 2007, 11:38 AM
The FAA lumps it all into the definition of any aircraft without a pilot is a UA, any UA flying for profit is a UAV/UAS. It should be interesting to see how this shakes out with sponsored RC pilots, for profit competitions and various research projects.
Tom Harper
Sep 23, 2007, 09:34 AM
I think the definition is difficult, if not impossible.
A definiton could easily snag FAI free flights as UAVs. They are high altitude; have auto engine control; have automated rudder and flaps; are capable of out of sight operation; some have telemetry contact with the ground. But, not really UAVs.
I think you know one when you see one.
The sad thing here is that the US needs a base of UAV literate students and engineers. It is counter productive for the state to dampen the learning process.
Tom
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