XCite has a New 2200 that ROCKS!

[zagimon]

Just a sample of my new shipment. True bang for your buck. Notice the CAPACITY :D

[everydayflyer]

Who flys at 1C?

Charles

[zagimon]

10 c is not going to give you the capacity of the battery charles. This data shows a 2200 that holds more capacity than rated, which is good. I will show higher c ratings, but if you go to my site, I have a chart comparing my battery to a couple of others.

[Eagleburger]

I cant say the graph xcites me.

[Dylwad]

Run a test at 22 amps and post a graph, with Temp, then we will see how Xciting it is ;)

Dylan

[mmormota]

Run a test at 22 amps and post a graph, with Temp, then we will see how Xciting it is ;)

Dylan

Then run it 100 times, and post the 50. and 100. graph as well. ;)

[zagimon]

lol, I'm sure someone here will eventually perform these test. Most don't pay attention to cycle test performed by owners.

[Challenger 413]

Yours aren't the only ones that give out more Mah than what is stamped on the cell.

If they hold volts under a 15C load and last 100 cycles, then people will pay attention...

Challenger413

[jmolwitz]

lol, I'm sure someone here will eventually perform these test. Most don't pay attention to cycle test performed by owners.

I can't wait to do your promotional work for you :rolleyes:

[jmolwitz]

lol, I'm sure someone here will eventually perform these test. Most don't pay attention to cycle test performed by owners.

I can't wait to do your promotional work for you :rolleyes: should I cut your lawn when I'm done with that :D

[zagimon]

Most of my promotional work is done in the field. I'll be in Houston with over 200 pilots in October. I'm sure soon someone will post some data. I've never had a volunteer to perform these extensive test which require more attention than a father with an infant and toddler to take care of. Plus, this battery was made less than 2 weeks ago and has never been produced by Xcite so, no I don’t have cycle testing done. Also, can you show me a 2200mAh battery graph that shows this capacity? I can’t seem to find any. As you see in the photo. This is not a 2300. It weighs the same as a 2200 and is labeled 2200 by the factory. My thorough testing of many cells from many manufacturers show that cells that are prone to puffing do not hold the rated capacity. :)

[Challenger 413]

Also, can you show me a 2200mAh battery graph that shows this capacity? I can’t seem to find any. As you see in the photo. This is not a 2300. It weighs the same as a 2200 and is labeled 2200 by the factory. My thorough testing of many cells from many manufacturers show that cells that are prone to puffing do not hold the rated capacity. :)

Here is a 2100, showing as a 2200 MAh. It has happened before to list as a smaller pack so it looks great in a discharge test, although at a 10/15C discharge, that is another story.

Not saying anything bad about your pack though, just showing that is has been done before.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5825266&postcount=2

Challenger413

[baytel]

So what battery packs do recommend Challenger 413? Of the 11 volt lipo style persuasion. :)

ps: I currently have 2 of the XCite 2200's on order.......

Baytel

[everydayflyer]

From just over one year ago:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5952275&postcount=1


At 3C discharged to 3.2V 96.6% of rated capacity
At 14C to 3.2 87.9% of rated capacity.

FYI The tested cell (packs) rated at 3C charge rate when using 1010C / 210V combo.


Charles

[Challenger 413]

So what battery packs do recommend Challenger 413? Of the 11 volt lipo style persuasion. :)

ps: I currently have 2 of the XCite 2200's on order.......

Baytel

I recommend that you buy which ever packs you feel are a good buy....hope those 15C cells/packs work out for you.

We all have our own favorites, what works great for me...might work terrible for you.

Challenger413

[Fuegodeth]

What is good news about this battery graph is that the last batch of batteries, the ones that wen't bad, did not discharge to full capacity. Also please note that the cutoff voltage on that graph is 9.6v, and not lower as many are run. I'm taking that as a good sign, and am very excited to get my replacement batteries. I'm eager to see the in-flight results. With the tempilabels, I'll be able to see if they are getting overworked at all or not.

P.S. Jmolwitz - Random people are performing cycle tests and performance tests on every other brand of battery that is ever used, and just about every other R/C product on the market. Of the 8 million posts, many are product reviews, tests, and information to share with other consumers. Just search the forums. Why is it unreasonable to expect that xcite owners would be any different. The reason is that if they are bad, the users here will be most vocal about posting data. If they are good, then also results will come out. I think most here prefer to see data from other consumers like themselves, rather than from a reseller. It just carries more weight. This particular seller is doing more testing and more communication with their customers than most ever consider doing. It is rare to see battery graphs at all from battery vendors and manufacturers. If you don't want to test them, then just leave it alone. I bet you've had plenty of posts in favor of other products. What was so special about them that you want to promote them? What is so wrong about Patrick thinking that a few people will probably run some tests on their batteries?

[baytel]

I recommend that you buy which ever packs you feel are a good buy....hope those 15C cells/packs work out for you.

We all have our own favorites, what works great for me...might work terrible for you.

Challenger413


So your feelings are that reqardless of what Xcite advertises (ad says 20c), that these are really 15C batteries. :confused: Any opinions of Poly-Quest lipos? I have several of those and they seem to be OK, but then I'm still very new to lipos and not really sure "what's up". I'm powering a mega 16/15/5 in one plane and a AXI2820/12 in another. I'm thinking that more power is better> :)
Baytel

[Fuegodeth]

The current batch of 2200's and other sizes are 20c batteries. The first batch that were junk were 15c, but they puffed at a couple of 1C break in discharge cycle. And in some cases 2 flights for the 2nd set that I didn't do a break in cycle for. You couldn't even call them batteries. They were clearly defective, and not just "sub-par" batteries. Correctly manufactured batteries should work as well as any other on the market.

[RedLabel]

Well, this is funny. My electrifly 1500mah 15C battery gets 1650+mah(I usually stop charging myself after that value).

You can find a lot of packs which show higher capacity then the advertised one.


Most of my promotional work is done in the field. I'll be in Houston with over 200 pilots in October. I'm sure soon someone will post some data. I've never had a volunteer to perform these extensive test which require more attention than a father with an infant and toddler to take care of. Plus, this battery was made less than 2 weeks ago and has never been produced by Xcite so, no I don’t have cycle testing done. Also, can you show me a 2200mAh battery graph that shows this capacity? I can’t seem to find any. As you see in the photo. This is not a 2300. It weighs the same as a 2200 and is labeled 2200 by the factory. My thorough testing of many cells from many manufacturers show that cells that are prone to puffing do not hold the rated capacity. :)

[zagimon]

Well, this is funny. My electrifly 1500mah 15C battery gets 1650+mah(I usually stop charging myself after that value).

You can find a lot of packs which show higher capacity then the advertised one.


Red Label,

Yes, All quality batteries show more capacity like the electrifly. Don't worry. I feel that by next season, there will be allot of happy customers posting data as this is a new company with a loyal following. I hope that those who receive the new Xcite 2200 with TRUE 20 c continuous "until someone disproves of my statements" will come forward and post some data on cycles and voltage under load. From what my engineers have told me, I have 20 C continuous batteries. I will find out soon enough for myself as I fly EDF and will know after a couple of runs in my sabre. As for some of your comments about 15c, I've had manufacturers scrap a whole batch of batteries because they didn't speck right. Some give false ratings out of greed and the bottom margin. I started this company from the postings that I read within this Awesome forum " Your welcome Jim " :) and will never allow for under specked packs. Anyway, a big show in Houston and in Tennessee will receiving free packs at there raffles and hopefully I will get some feedback.

[grinder965]

Greetings Patrick,

Bought 2 of your 15C 3s2100's bout 7 weeks ago.....performing fine so far though I only have about 14 cycles on em. Course I haven't pushed em too hard and I make sure they get alot of cool airflow and don't run then done to anywhere near LVC. I recieved your e-mail re: problems and it's nice to know you stand behind your product. Will consider buying a couple of the 2200's sometime soon.....Mike

[Challenger 413]

So your feelings are that reqardless of what Xcite advertises (ad says 20c), that these are really 15C batteries. :confused: Any opinions of Poly-Quest lipos? I have several of those and they seem to be OK, but then I'm still very new to lipos and not really sure "what's up". I'm powering a mega 16/15/5 in one plane and a AXI2820/12 in another. I'm thinking that more power is better> :)
Baytel

Sorry, I thought they were the 15C flavor, now I know they are 20C cells.

If you run that battery at 20C constant, I will be suprised if it lasts more than 50 cycles. Same goes for PQ, even though they are excellent cells.

All the packs I buy, even though they are rated as 20C, I do my normal de-rate of....... -5C for constant/-3C for bursts. I also set the LVC for 3.2 volts per cell and also fly with a timer. I usaully land before the LVC kicks in unless I do a lot of hoving.

That way, if they are good cells, they will last for more than 100 cycles.

Challenger413

[zagimon]

Greetings Patrick,

Bought 2 of your 15C 3s2100's bout 7 weeks ago.....performing fine so far though I only have about 14 cycles on em. Course I haven't pushed em too hard and I make sure they get alot of cool airflow and don't run then done to anywhere near LVC. I recieved your e-mail re: problems and it's nice to know you stand behind your product. Will consider buying a couple of the 2200's sometime soon.....Mike


Thanks Mike, I'm about to go throw up some jets. Its a good day to fly here in Dallas. No longer 90+ degrees. All replacement orders are being shipped in the A.M. Good flying to all!

Patrick

[Neil Walker]

What do the cells weigh?

[zagimon]

[QUOTE=Neil Walker]What do the cells weigh?[/QUOTE

Neil,

The battery is 176grams. Lighter than the factory specs, which is 180g.