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echostone542
Aug 29, 2007, 03:18 AM
SPECIFICATION:Number of Channel: 8ch ppm/9ch pcm
Display: 128*64 Lcd
Support Type: Heli/Acro/Glid
Support User:8
Stick Model: 4
Encoder Type: ppm/pcm
Subtrim: Yes
Simulator Interface: Yes
Buzzer: Yes
Low voltage show:Yes
for more information, please log on our website:www.skyrc.cn
contace me : echo@skyrc.cn

echostone542
Aug 29, 2007, 03:21 AM
iMAX FM transmitter
INTRODUCTION:
B1045:27MHz-FM Transmitter
B1046:40MHZ-FM Transmitter
FM Transmitter with LCD
CE and ROHS Approval
10cars Memories
27MHz & 40MHz available
ABS function available

Miami Mike
Aug 29, 2007, 07:36 AM
At this point, there are way too many unknowns. If you can provide well-written owner's manuals in English that we can download from your website and read, your prospects of selling these radios will improve dramatically. That's true of the other products on your website as well.

village_idiot
Aug 29, 2007, 09:48 AM
I'm not wild about the control placement, but it might have some nice features. Here's one of the images:
http://www.skyrc.cn/en/imageview.asp?itemid=206&img=29

ivanc
Aug 29, 2007, 11:31 AM
SPECIFICATION:Number of Channel: 8ch ppm/9ch pcm
Display: 128*64 LcdBacklit or not?


Support Type: Heli/Acro/Glid
Support User:8How many model memories are supported per user?


Stick Model: 4What other stick models (designs?) are provided?


Encoder Type: ppm/pcmWhat is the PCM resolution? Is it compatible with any of the "big" radio manufacturer PCM formats? If so, which ones?


Subtrim: Yes
Simulator Interface: YesFor which simulator? How about a trainer port? If available, which one? What is the channel assignment?


Buzzer: Yes
Low voltage show:YesWhat is the low voltage threshold?

More Qs:
Is it available on 72MHz?
Does it have a built-in RF module or removable one?
Do you have a frequency synthesized RF module?
What built-in mixes does it have?
How many user programmable mixes does it have?
Can the trim be turned on and off for user programmable mixes?
Can switches be reassigned to different functions (channels and mixes)?
Can it use removable memory modules for model memory? If so which memory cards?
How much does it cost in the US?

Ivan

echostone542
Aug 30, 2007, 03:30 AM
Thank you for all your questions and suggestions. here is the link to the manual of 9 channel transmitter: http://www.skyrc.cn/tem/IMAX_FX9.pdf

fhhuber506771
Aug 30, 2007, 04:30 AM
Manual needs proofreading... errors in spelling, punctuation and apostrophe use are common.

Kema
Aug 30, 2007, 07:31 AM
Thats engrish manual. English manual is coming later.

Miami Mike
Aug 30, 2007, 07:39 AM
40 megabytes from a very slow server. I guess I'll have to wait until tonight.

And it's in Engrish (http://www.engrish.com/)? Oh boy, I can hardly wait!

Miami Mike
Aug 30, 2007, 08:13 AM
It looks like this is indeed Engrish at its finest! Here's a quick random find from the bottom of page 48:MIX1-5:

Mix purpose to accuse of form to get rid of little
mistake of organism, make it is it can take
the heart conveniently even more to have not
to handle. The very wanton one mixes accusing
of among the channel.Priceless!

A.T.
Aug 30, 2007, 03:44 PM
It looks like this is indeed Engrish at its finest! Here's a quick random find from the bottom of page 48:Priceless!
Appears to be Babelfish (http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn) translator at it's finest. The easiest and often the funniest way for a stand way off overview when translating other language web pages, manuals etc.
Regards
Alan T.
Alan's Hobby, Model & RC FAQ Web Links (http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong)

ivanc
Aug 30, 2007, 05:08 PM
ROFLMAO! :D :D :D
Warn the sound: After establishing time for less than 59 seconds, warning sound appears in one second in every interval [Bi]: It sets for time to finish long and loud.Amen brothers and sisters! :D :D :D

fhhuber506771
Aug 30, 2007, 05:16 PM
echostone542:

If you want to be taken seriously... definitely get that manual fixed.

The features of the radio sound good. But the manual is looking like a joke.

echostone542
Aug 31, 2007, 11:47 PM
Thank you for all your suggestions! We will modify the manual as soon as possible and give you a better one. Thanks again!

Dylwad
Sep 01, 2007, 05:30 AM
The LCD images have alot of JR in them...hopefully they copied the user-interface from a decent radio.

Walkera has a computer radio very similiar to the JR 8103, and I have yet to see one in america....

Giving some of these away for testing might do wonders too, people arent likely to buy a new product unless they are following someones experiances.

I would be more than happy to test one out for ya ;)

Dylan

XJet
Sep 01, 2007, 04:21 PM
The LCD images have alot of JR in them...hopefully they copied the user-interface from a decent radio.

Walkera has a computer radio very similiar to the JR 8103, and I have yet to see one in america....

Giving some of these away for testing might do wonders too, people arent likely to buy a new product unless they are following someones experiances.

I would be more than happy to test one out for ya ;)

Dylan

Don't worry, there'll be a review on RCModelReviews in a few weeks. That'll save *you* taking the risk with an unknown product.

Up&Away
Sep 03, 2007, 02:09 AM
Giving some of these away for testing might do wonders too, people arent likely to buy a new product unless they are following someones experiances.

I would be more than happy to test one out for ya ;)

Me too, me too! :D

Miami Mike
Sep 03, 2007, 09:37 AM
I don't know why. I sure wouldn't want to be the one to test a new radio with unintelligible documentation, from an unknown designer and manufacturer, considering that it could very easily destroy one of my own model planes and all of its gear.

Maybe they'll earn a reputation for trustworthiness eventually, but I have a lot of time and money invested in my models, so for now, I'll stick with reputable radio control gear. You guys test it if you like. The rest of us will sit back and watch.

CarreraGTSCS
Sep 03, 2007, 06:27 PM
How much? Futaba or JR shift or shift select? Where is it available? What capacity battery?

jafoca
Sep 03, 2007, 09:45 PM
It seems like you all are being a bit harsh =/

CarreraGTSCS
Sep 03, 2007, 10:19 PM
Not me. I just want info. I'd be willing to take a chance on one. I'd put it in one of my old GWS planes until proven with a number of successful flights.

Mike

jafoca
Sep 03, 2007, 10:26 PM
C-

Sorry for over-generalizing. You indeed asked fair questions. Just some others seem to be quite negative about this product.

CarreraGTSCS
Sep 03, 2007, 10:45 PM
No need to apologize. I knew what you were saying. Could be a good product. I've been thinking lately of getting one of the Polk's transmitters but there's enough negative comments to make me pause. I'd be willing to give one of these a chance if it's compatible with my current batch of receivers.

Mike

village_idiot
Sep 04, 2007, 10:08 AM
It actually looks like it might be a very good product depending on the price and a few other features. It would be great if it used an RF module so that we could legally change the channel (here in the USA) as well as add other systems like a 2.4Ghz system.

ips
Sep 06, 2007, 03:17 AM
downloaded manual. not uninteligible, but a poor translation, If you are familiar with JR programming, it is not so bad. Granted for mass distribution in english speaking lands, it needs work.
comswder thit ths is nat gud spelqmig, yyo cin stall rred it.

What I found;
1024 pcm
digital trims
plug in JR type module, raising the question about swapping to synth.

wiz bong programming, throttle mixture, camber reflex, throttle curves, plus standard JR stuff. impressive IF components are decent. Apparently JR firmware it would seem. JR liscensed the walkera 1001, maybe this one also?

emails promptly answered and very helpful anson is.
Price quoted about one high end digital servo. scarey... but tempting...

just buy one if your so inclined, if it isnt good, use it for park flyers. no sense trying to get a million questions answered I think.

Miami Mike
Sep 06, 2007, 07:16 AM
downloaded manual. not uninteligible...Glad to hear it. Please tell us what this means:MIX1-5:

Mix purpose to accuse of form to get rid of little
mistake of organism, make it is it can take
the heart conveniently even more to have not
to handle. The very wanton one mixes accusing
of among the channel.

Up&Away
Sep 06, 2007, 07:32 AM
How can you not understand that!:)

ips
Sep 06, 2007, 07:36 AM
Glad to hear it. Please tell us what this means:

Quite simply and succinctly, when flying a scale aerobatic plane for example, unwanted coupling as in yaw or roll coupling can be mixed out or compensated for.
If you have he desire and the experience programming radios, not so difficult.
Now you do it.

Miami Mike
Sep 06, 2007, 07:38 AM
Which word means "scale aerobatic plane"? :rolleyes:

My first impression was that the manual is sort of like a long contract - the first thing to do is skip to the end and read that first.

ips
Sep 06, 2007, 07:40 AM
I suppose the advice I would give is not to try to read it literally, but use your acumen and common sense to decifer the meaning. feel the force...

ips
Sep 06, 2007, 07:43 AM
Which word means "scale aerobatic plane"? :rolleyes:

My first impression was that the manual is sort of like a long contract - the first thing to do is skip to the end and read that first.

No different than most english manuals written by english speaking humans.

my method: play with the radio first, read the manual, play with radio again, throw out the manual. save your set ups..

ips
Sep 06, 2007, 07:45 AM
mr. mike, your being too literal, go with the general, move to the specific. I used a specific example I thought you might understand.

Miami Mike
Sep 06, 2007, 07:45 AM
I suppose the advice I would give is not to try to read it literally, but use your acumen and common sense to decifer the meaning. feel the force...Just like the Bible. I get it.

ips
Sep 06, 2007, 07:55 AM
Just like the Bible. I get it.

Hmm, well If that is your nearest frame of reference I guess, do I sense sarcasm? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one. Just trying to be helpful. keep it fun. most Western thinkers think linearly, and speak literally. In Asia and othe places, like major universities, linguistic frames of reference ... well, to put it simply, sometimes are different, and there is difficulty translating .

If you want to be critical certainly its your perogative I suppose. I do understand yor frutration. Being Asian, for me I see two sides of the same coin.

Miami Mike
Sep 06, 2007, 08:08 AM
ips,

It's clear from your post count that you signed up with RCGroups just to post in this thread, which means that you personally have a financial interest in selling these radios. Unfortunately, you have unwisely chosen to argue that the manual is okay as it is rather than agree that it needs to be rewritten.

My advice to you is to bite the bullet and get someone more fluent in English to rewrite your manual for you. Your prospects of selling your radio will be much better.

ips
Sep 06, 2007, 08:20 AM
Well, your deadwrong about my connection to this product, if you go back and read my posts sir, you will see I stated the manual leaves more than a little to be desired. Maybe because I said I was Asian you think that?
peace be with you. I'll try another forum thread just to prove you are incorrect about my intent here. I suppose its trial by fire on these forums okay I will bow out of this one thread and try again.. go love someone, life is too short to be angry and suspcious.
pax

bnrusso
Sep 06, 2007, 10:13 AM
Can't we all just get along?
In order for a product to sucessfully enter the American market, especially when it is a replacement of something that is already there, the manual must be accurate, and include many programming examples.
There are 2 specific reasons why.
First programming features are difficult for most experienced (older) modelers as many have never programmed mixes or couplings, EXP, EPA's,.... Younger and tech savy modelers will usually have no problem figuring things out but there are still many Americans that cannot program the clock/timer on their VCR.
Secondly, when a product manual is not "Americanized" it seems that the supplier's product is inferior. When people read these unintelligible statements they feel that the product is not worth their time as the translation actually sounds funny. The statements read like a joke and so the product must also be a joke.
I use and am very happy with many Chinese products. The low cost makes up for the hard to read manuals but many of my RC associates don't share the same feeling.

And then there are those, who for their own personal reasons, just don't ever want to be challenged re: their statements or knowledge.

village_idiot
Sep 06, 2007, 10:49 AM
OK, if it is cheap... Where can I buy it? I might take a chance on something like this if it will fly helis with various different swash types.

fhhuber506771
Sep 06, 2007, 02:30 PM
MIX1-5:

Mix purpose to accuse of form to get rid of little
mistake of organism, make it is it can take
the heart conveniently even more to have not
to handle. The very wanton one mixes accusing
of among the channel.

Quite simply and succinctly, when flying a scale aerobatic plane for example, unwanted coupling as in yaw or roll coupling can be mixed out or compensated for.
If you have he desire and the experience programming radios, not so difficult.
Now you do it.


Yaw/roll coupling would be the 1-4 mix. 1-5 would be mixing ailerons to flaps or retracts if it used Futaba channel order. If it uses JR channel order a 1-5 mix would be throttle to flaps or retracts.

*************

The Bible is very easy to understand by comparison to the manual....

Find a copy of the Bhagavad Gita. Thats closer to the way the manual reads. (yes, I have a copy)

bildo baggins
Sep 06, 2007, 02:48 PM
Interesting radio. What was the price point? I tried reading through the thread for it but too much garbage to overlook.

ips
Sep 08, 2007, 07:02 AM
Interesting radio. What was the price point? I tried reading through the thread for it but too much garbage to overlook.

106 USD I was quoted. (plus shipping) don't know if that is dealer or one radio though. I have not followed up on quantities.
I came back to thread to answer a question on topic, hope I don't get slammed again.

As far as Bhagavad Gita goes, Yes exactly the point! I have read some of it, back in the 60's. And we could all use a little Dharma here!

Try reading some of the post modern essays for really obtuse cyclical reasoning. The point being the non linerity of human knowledge and existence, and the break down and blending of cultural precepts.

Certainly my attempt, however inadequate, to convey cultural differences and elucidate the intent of the grossly inadequate radio manual, was meant in good faith. Using specific examples(if not matching Futaba or JR's protocol) to make it generally more understandable.
I suppose I was a little sensitive to the apparently unrealized and unintentional bigotry in some of the earllier posts. I should forgive and forget.
Lets hear a review next!
I will volunteer after I get one, unless someone else does it first.
again,
PAX