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viper2020cobra
Aug 02, 2007, 05:05 AM
how difficult would it be to build a brushed esc that can power a pager style motor it dosent even have to be bi directional it can be uni directional i would need a total of 4 esc so i was thinking of just putting it all on one pcb.. is ther any diagrams or information of how to make one someone could give me?
AndyKunz
Aug 02, 2007, 07:37 AM
Castle Pixie was about 1/2" x 3/8", but you can do better. You can put a 6-pin micro (PIC 10F) and a SOT-23 or SO-8 FET together a bypass cap on the micro, a resistor to the FET gate and another for pulldown.
Andy
Chippie
Aug 02, 2007, 07:40 AM
There is Mike Norton's design which I believe was enhanced by Bruce Abbott...It is pic based(12C508?)...if you used smt versions you could make it small and compact...
Here's the link to it........
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/bhabbott/esc.html
Bruce hope you dont mind my linking to your site....... ;)
andrewm1973
Aug 02, 2007, 10:21 PM
Vipercobra,
Do you need absolute smallness ?
A 4mm x 4mm MLF packaged CPU and 4 SC70-6 FETs would get you down to the 0.2 gram mark. I can lend you a hand with the coding if need be.
viper2020cobra
Aug 02, 2007, 11:14 PM
andrewm1973
actually i was gonna try to use some small micro componets to piece together a controller system for my micro heli project to try and get away from programing put it seems i cant escape it so ill just use one of your picoos replacment brains and save my self a whole lotta money and head aches.
andrewm1973
Aug 02, 2007, 11:37 PM
Viper,
None of the units I am making will have 4 ESC outputs. The most complex one will have 2 ESC and one H-Bridge big enough for a motor.
The programming won't be hard and I can guide you through it step by step.
viper2020cobra
Aug 03, 2007, 03:08 AM
andrewm1973
so a mlf packaged cpu and 4 sc70-06 fets will give me 4 esc that i can connect to a tiny reciever such as a pixie ? is there any chance i can get somesort of a quick drawn diagram and wich cpu do suggest an attiny 90 would do that job?
andrewm1973
Aug 03, 2007, 06:54 PM
Viper,
The CPU choise is probably pretty irrelivent. I would choose an AVR myself. The biggest part of it is the software.
If you want to hook up to a pixie then you will need to have 4 input pins (one for each channel) if you wanted to just go with IR control you only need one input pin. Going with the pixie idea means you could use an off the shelf gyro and plug it in between the RX and the ESC module.
Just to make life easier I would pick a CPU with 4 hardware PWMs. The ATTiny45 meets that bill but it has a limited number of pins left for input. It is also the same sized package as either the ATTiny44 or the ATMega48. So just to make like easy and not cost any weight the ATTiny48 would be my choice.
I am sure the PIC people will comment on the small PIC CPUs with 4 hardware PWMs. I can't point you in any direction there if you wanted to go PIC.
viper2020cobra
Aug 04, 2007, 04:00 AM
okay i like the pixie idea
and like i said i actaully need 2 uni and 2 bi channels
for teh 2 uni channels i was gonna use the sc70-6 mosfets and for teh 2 h- bridges i was gonna use the allegro a3901
and for the cpu oim gonna go with the atmega 48
what esle should i need to know?
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