Spoilerons on Optic6

[kakao]

I have this hotliner http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695017

in reference to make some better landings on slope (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715988) i want to programm spoilerons on this plane.

Is there any easy way to do this with Optic6

I'm having trouble..

Basicaly what i have is

FLPN enabled - Airlon diferential set to 100%UP/60%DOWN

I want to programm spoilerons presset ( possibly can use CAMB or LAND for this and also one of the mixes )

I have tried to set LAND or CAMB configuration with full spoilers up but i need to reverse the diferential and airlon motion. I don't have ruder on this plane so i have to steer with spoilerons.

Or how do you use the optic6 to programm spoilerons??

[MarkusN]

The problem is that camber changing flaps normally are deflected down (increasing camber and lift). I don't know the Optic 6, is it possible to invert the camber setting somewhere? That would be the way to go.

[kakao]

I had few hours of time so i did make some tests.

At first there are 4 main problems
a) how to make the servo linkage to travel 90deg+ so it will pop the spoilerons up and still have fine control of the plane
b) how to limit the servo in spoileron position so it can't travel behind the linkage limits
c) how to change sensivity of the airlon function in these diferent flight modes
d) because the spoileron servos are reversed in function to each other - how to make the whole thing simetrical

so my resolution
a) neutral servo position is not 90deg to the wing but more to LE (like 60deg between servo arm and the wing in LE direction), also control horns on flaps are in front of the hinge line. See first image
b) Servo limits are setup in EPA - the max travels are limited to spoileron neutral position
c) the linkeage does this by it self - it even does the airlon diferential ;)
d) The spoilerons will only move down as the EPA limits them to move behind the level of maximum servo travel

So all you have to do is this:
0. Disable any trims that are in concern to airlons. Set them to 0
1. Install servo - pushrod - horn setup somethink like on the pic - keep the servo arms, pushrod, horns the same size on both spoilerons\
2. Enable FLPN - set the 11 and 12 throws to 100% on both the airlon left and airlon right stick position
3. The servos must be installed in the same distance from spoileron hinge on both sides
4. Using subtrims - center the servo arm positions so that the angles mattch on both sides - set the trims to 0 at first and try to set the arms to the servo on angles(aprox) then trimm with subtrim to match the angle ( if you have both sides identical that means put the spoilerons to airlon neutral position )
5. Enable camber - add "-100%" travel to both chanel 1 an 6 - now you may notice that if you move the airlon stick the servos will hitt the dead end on both sides as you move the stick
6 Using the EPA - asiign the dead end of servo travel to Spoiler mode neutral position.

Now you should have it set up properly which means :

Switch off CAMB mix
airlons move according to FLPN mode - they should have some airlon diferential as default by the mechanical properties of linkage - you can adjust the airlon diferential in FLPN

Switch on CAMB mix
The spoilerons go up to some 60+ deg. As you move the stick the spoilerons go only down acording to the side you want to go - meaning
Airlon stick left - Left airlon stays in full up position, Right airlon drops
Airlon stick right - Right airlon stays in full up position, left airlon drops

You can also porgram some up elevator in CAMB mix if you wish.

I will try this setting as soon as posible and post results ;)

I take no responsibility for this setting - better doublecheck if it works as you wish or set it up with somebody who is experienced enough to help you!

[kakao]

Ok i did the tests on spoilerons - lucky me i was trying it in high altitude.

It did definitly slow down but i had a major nose up.
Unfortunatly the bonds from last crash did not hold so when i landed i could not bring the plane in the air again and try some elevator compensation and/or eventualy trim the spoilerons to deploy less :)

Also i did not try the steering ability of the plane in spoileron mode - did not have much time to do this :) The ground was comming in too fast :)

Will have to repair the fusse some better way :(

This plane is someway fighting not to stay in the air :(

[kakao]

The problem is that camber changing flaps normally are deflected down (increasing camber and lift). I don't know the Optic 6, is it possible to invert the camber setting somewhere? That would be the way to go.

On optic6 in camberlon mix you can programm any deflection on chanel 1,2,5,6 +-100%

I dont have flaps ;)