G3.5 requirements?

[CyberJay]

I've never considered buying a sim because my PC isn't up to the minimum requirements. But recently I moved to NW Arkansas and one of the hobby shops here has G3 setup in the store. I flew a trex450 model on it and was really impressed. Since I haven't flown an actual model in over a year and a half, and I no longer have my Corona I think I should really consider getting a sim.

My computer is a PIII 866Mhz with 320MB of ram, UDMA33 HD, and an NVidia 3d card(forget the model) that has a GeForce 6200 chip and 128MB of ram. I try to keep my system free of crap, since I've been a sysadmin for 7 years I'm pretty good at that but system memory is a real problem. I idle around 300MB, usually use around 500-600MB(read: constantly swapping).

So does anyone else run G3 in a similar environment? Does it work? I have parts laying around that I could put together a machine at 2.4GHz P4 with 2GB of ram... but then I'd have to rebuild my O/S and that would take some time that I don't really have right now.

Thanks for the advice.

-Jay

[Greybird]

Jay. I have 2.4GHz P4 with 2GB ram. My graphics card is a NVidia GE Force 7600 GS with 512MB. It is still slightly glitchy. Not bad, though if you use the photo fields.

[LouieB]

NO, your computer will not support G3.5., you don't even meet minimal cpu speeds.

http://www.realflight.com/requirements/g3_system.html

Personally, for optimal performance, that means all the features turned on; you would need 2 gig of memory, a 2 gig cpu or a multi-processor cpu, a memory card with at least 256 meg of mem and Win2k or XP. Of course you can get by with less memory, but you would need to turn off some features.

Your computer does not meet the minimal cpu speed for the Phoenix sim either. You are in one of the unenviable situations where the world has left your PC behind. You should consider a new HP/Dell or a home grown if you have the experience in building a PC. In August/September Intel rolls out their new chipset that will support a faster bus, at the time the price will drop on existing HP/Dell units. You can get a good buy then or purchase a new PC with the faster bus.

[CyberJay]

Well I know I'll get flamed for this.. but why did you even reply?

NO, your computer will not support G3.5., you don't even meet minimal cpu speeds.

I know that, did you read the first sentance? As a sysadmin with over 7 years of experience it wouldn't be the first time I've run a program on a system that didn't meet minimum requirements. Hence why I asked if anyone had tried G3.5 on a system similar to mine.

Personally, for optimal performance, that means all the features turned on; you would need 2 gig of memory, a 2 gig cpu or a multi-processor cpu, a memory card with at least 256 meg of mem and Win2k or XP. Of course you can get by with less memory, but you would need to turn off some features.

That's somewhat helpful.. at least I know what I need to shoot for when I build a new system. That is the same information that's available on the website though.

Your computer does not meet the minimal cpu speed for the Phoenix sim either. You are in one of the unenviable situations where the world has left your PC behind.

I'm well aware of that. Again, that's the reason I posted the thread.

You should consider a new HP/Dell or a home grown if you have the experience in building a PC.

I question whether you even read my entire post? I said I have parts to rebuild my computer. Also said I'm in the tech industry. Also said that I am running a very old machine. Do I sound like the kind of person who would go buy a brand new Dell?

In August/September Intel rolls out their new chipset that will support a faster bus, at the time the price will drop on existing HP/Dell units. You can get a good buy then or purchase a new PC with the faster bus.

Thanks for the heads-up I guess? I still think I'd rather use the parts I already have (as I mentioned in my original post) to rebuild my machine rather than look for a new Dell.

I appreciate that you took the time make a polite response to my post. I know I did not get many replies and you did take the time. Maybe I wasn't clear in my post, or maybe you didn't read it completely I don't know. It really gets on my nerves these days on MANY different forums the number of people who reply with irrelevant, or extremely partial information.

I know this site is more sunsine and daisies than many of the other sites I'm on, but where I come from you do a search, you read relavant websites(such as Realflight's recommended system specs) then if you still have questions, as I did, you ask them.

My specific question was: I know I am running a system well below the recommended system requirements. Is there any chance it will still work. The only person who could answer that is someone who's tried it. Greybird's response is extremely helpful though, because it tells me that even if I rebuild with the best parts I have, I will still have a marginal system. and from that I can infer that my old piece of junk doesn't have a prayer.

Anyway.. flame away.

-Jay

[Spidious]

Dell system ! ?
Stay away from Dell. They are good at one thing selling computers that people want set up one way.
And if you ever want to do anything with it. Modify for more speed or what ever. You will end up starting over and building a better computer to begin with.

I bought a Dell for one of my sons to use for college. Tried to talk him out of it and offered to build him a better one at less cost ! Well he went with the Dell. And 3 months later he was complaining at just how slow it was. He wanted to update it. But after no luck finding compatible high speed high end graphics that would work with the stupid mother board that Dell uses. I started over from scratch and built him one that he now uses to do graphics and computer animation.
Luckily my other son, that I gave my old computer to. Decided to go the way I told him. He has a friend that builds computer. And is more in tune than me to what is out there now.
He has a computer that puts mine to shame ! And I have dual sli video cards and the top of the line processor at the time.

But to finally ask your question. Yes you can run the program on your computer. You won't be able to run it at full setting and see all of the eye candy and it will run a lot slower......

[LouieB]

People either hate or love Dell, depends on what you buy and how your luck is. Of the two I prefer HP, aside from that, I build my own and have since the days of the Heathkit. I figured that since a sysadmin asked this type of question that it was possible he was a sysadmin for the old Atari systems and may not have been aware of the advances made in the Intel/AMD arena.

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Dell system ! ?
Stay away from Dell. They are good at one thing selling computers that people want set up one way.
And if you ever want to do anything with it. Modify for more speed or what ever. You will end up starting over and building a better computer to begin with.

I bought a Dell for one of my sons to use for college. Tried to talk him out of it and offered to build him a better one at less cost ! Well he went with the Dell. And 3 months later he was complaining at just how slow it was. He wanted to update it. But after no luck finding compatible high speed high end graphics that would work with the stupid mother board that Dell uses. I started over from scratch and built him one that he now uses to do graphics and computer animation.
Luckily my other son, that I gave my old computer to. Decided to go the way I told him. He has a friend that builds computer. And is more in tune than me to what is out there now.
He has a computer that puts mine to shame ! And I have dual sli video cards and the top of the line processor at the time.

But to finally ask your question. Yes you can run the program on your computer. You won't be able to run it at full setting and see all of the eye candy and it will run a lot slower......

[CyberJay]

I was having a rough morning this morning, sorry for the harsh post. I've been selling/working on computers for over 10 years. Been a sysadmin for 7 on everything from a windows 95 peer to peer network on up to several $35,000 citrix metaframe servers in a cluster. 8 years ago I bought a rack and 4 rack mount cases. That is the extent of computer parts that I've paid for. Everything else is older equipment that clients have asked me to dispose of. My current system(mentioned above) was assembled 2.5 years ago using parts that are 5-6 years old. It might not be a wizbang new HP but OTHER THAN G3.5 I've never had a problem with it doing what I need it to do.

Anyway.. Spidious; will it work to the extrent that I can brush up on my flying? I don't really care what the simulation LOOKS like as long as it behaves like a real model.... eh.. scratch that I guess I just need to rebuild my machine. I just get comfy when everything is tweaked just the way I want it and hate having to rebuild it.

-Jay

[nemo_uk]

Hi Jay,

There is a demo of Realflight G3 which should give you a good indication of the performance of the sim on your setup.

http://www.realflight.com/free-g3-demo.html

regards,

Tony

[cargomaster]

I've never considered buying a sim because my PC isn't up to the minimum requirements. But recently I moved to NW Arkansas and one of the hobby shops here has G3 setup in the store. I flew a trex450 model on it and was really impressed. Since I haven't flown an actual model in over a year and a half, and I no longer have my Corona I think I should really consider getting a sim.

My computer is a PIII 866Mhz with 320MB of ram, UDMA33 HD, and an NVidia 3d card(forget the model) that has a GeForce 6200 chip and 128MB of ram. I try to keep my system free of crap, since I've been a sysadmin for 7 years I'm pretty good at that but system memory is a real problem. I idle around 300MB, usually use around 500-600MB(read: constantly swapping).

So does anyone else run G3 in a similar environment? Does it work? I have parts laying around that I could put together a machine at 2.4GHz P4 with 2GB of ram... but then I'd have to rebuild my O/S and that would take some time that I don't really have right now.

Thanks for the advice.

-Jay
I'm in an inviremen like that,youl probably have to do it on around meduim-low graphics quility.also what resolution is your moniter?(I'm also a semi- computer geek:),but if your running at like 1024-748,your computer might perform okay but if you did like oh say 1920-1200 you would get poor performance.

[CyberJay]

I'm in an inviremen like that,youl probably have to do it on around meduim-low graphics quility.also what resolution is your moniter?(I'm also a semi- computer geek:),but if your running at like 1024-748,your computer might perform okay but if you did like oh say 1920-1200 you would get poor performance.

I'm running 1024x768... I only have a 17" CRT(actually a pair of them). I downloaded the demo(thanks nemo) and it runs pretty good as long as I shut EVERYTHING else down.. Only problem is it runs the CPU at 100% constantly and after 5-10 minutes the machine reboots.. I think it's an overheating problem. My silly MB (Asus CUBX-L has an Intel 440BX chipset which isn't intended for PIII but Asus adapted it so we could have ISA slots on a PIII machine-yes I still use a couple ISA cards) won't run an 866Mhz(which is what I have) but I can set it to a 600Mhz and "overclock" it up to 866Mhz.. which is what I do.. at any rate, it doesn't like it. I also think I may have an issue with memory because the system reports 320MB when I have a 256MB, and two 64MB sticks in it.

I will say one thing... posting in this thread has made me realize what an absolute piece of crap my computer is... I will rebuild soon.

-Jay

[cargomaster]

I'm running 1024x768... I only have a 17" CRT(actually a pair of them). I downloaded the demo(thanks nemo) and it runs pretty good as long as I shut EVERYTHING else down.. Only problem is it runs the CPU at 100% constantly and after 5-10 minutes the machine reboots.. I think it's an overheating problem. My silly MB (Asus CUBX-L has an Intel 440BX chipset which isn't intended for PIII but Asus adapted it so we could have ISA slots on a PIII machine-yes I still use a couple ISA cards) won't run an 866Mhz(which is what I have) but I can set it to a 600Mhz and "overclock" it up to 866Mhz.. which is what I do.. at any rate, it doesn't like it. I also think I may have an issue with memory because the system reports 320MB when I have a 256MB, and two 64MB sticks in it.

I will say one thing... posting in this thread has made me realize what an absolute piece of crap my computer is... I will rebuild soon.

-Jay
Yeah same with me,i just upped my ati x200 to a x1650,it might be in tommorow.have you ever heard of an emachines desktop?I have a uppgraded version of their t3516, i have 1gb of ram,my ati x1650xt is coming in the mail($104).but i got the emachines t3516 for like $500,and with uppgrades about $650,but if you do get a emachines bewarned if it comes with a intergraded ati x200,emidaitly go to at least a x1650xt,but if you have the money go for a nvidia geforce 8800 gts 320mb,and do at least 1gb of ram,2gb is better.

My computer specs: (upped emachines t3516)
Intel celeron d 352@3.2GHz
1GB ram
ati x200 (x1650xt is on its way)
1024-748 crt moniter

[archiebald]

Nothing to do with G3 (bloatware) but I am currently running Phoenix on a 1.4GHz Sony Vaio Notebook, at maximum resolution, all features at maximum and there is not a hint of slowdown.

I also run it on my desktop at home perfectly (3.2GHz, 1.0 Gig RAM and a 512MB Nvidia 6800 Series graphic card)......And G3 at half the settings was as glitchy as a glitchy thing that glitches a lot.

AFPD was also excellent at system resources but G3.....Pah!!! I spit at you.

Just my 2 yen