Post your F3F PBs !!! [Archive]

KurtMc

Jun 09, 2007, 07:56 PM

I'll kick this off by sharing my "smokin' fast" time of 54.49 ! ! I was so jazzed up for that flight at Thorton that I had no choice but to crack off a 'sub-55 !! ' time! Man, I was surprised at how fast i went :D Gives me something to shoot for next time ... Yesseriee - that twas a fast one!

8-)

So -- what's your PB!!? :D

checkenbach

Jun 09, 2007, 09:19 PM

I had a 50 in my zero round at the Slot last time, slowed down in the race :(

target

Jun 10, 2007, 12:54 AM

Please don't make me!

I was 38.?? up until this January at Parker... Now I can't even post what it is!

Target, topped-out?

target

Jun 10, 2007, 12:56 AM

I had a 50 in my zero round at the Slot last time, slowed down in the race :(

I've managed the fastest time in the zero round a few times :(

It's a good way to start, but now I need to figure out how to keep that up...

chetosmachine

Jun 10, 2007, 05:12 AM

52.61 I'm too in the sub-55' mark.
Lots of air, no ballast tube on the plane and a shared Evo programed the day before the comp= bad combination (but it was so fun!)
The good thing is that now i should have no problem to smash my PB ;)
Chets

KurtMc

Jun 10, 2007, 01:16 PM

I was 38.?? up until this January at Parker... Now I can't even post what it is!

That's the beauty of 'personal bests' -- asterisk's don't mean diddly :D I'm looking forward to sub-40 ('some day') and if I'm lucky enough to fly world record air, I'm going to be proud as hell of whatever figure results... Crow through at launch speeds are legal! Parker landings are 50/50 fatal. Show up to a race with 5 F3F planes? Not me. . . Time for a new thread/rule changes. . .

The good thing is that now i should have no problem to smash my PB ;)
Chets

And that's the best part of F3F . . . I may never see a 27 in my lifetime but it's going to be one hell of a snipe hunt :cool:

I'm ready for my third race and more broken PBs!! :D

target

Jun 10, 2007, 01:23 PM

I don't know, Kurt; never say never!

I told Warren on the drive up to Parker, I'd never beat that 38 second time.

I DID. No asterisk. Round 3(first flight of a double round set, so even the sticklers can't whine), a double carbon Trinity that is supposedly "too heavy".

Of course, after Tim's 27.79(*) time, no one noticed except me!

Now I'll say that I'll never beat THAT PB!

Target, who was in the right place at the right time, and didn't make too many mistakes!

John Ward

Jun 10, 2007, 04:10 PM

I did a 50.9 at Thornton last week with that turd the Charisma. I'm trying to get better at setup/programming knowing the plane is inherently slower than everything else I own. It is durable though . I did a 48 sec run in my zero round at the Slot last month. Still Don't know how. More important I started getting under 60 seconds consistently. Figuring out the right ballast, snap flap, elevator travel, and CG is a lot of fun. I'm bringing a notebook and keeping track of what's working and whats not. BTW my wild ride last week was cause of a partially stripped aileron servo. gotta get rid of ALL of those 5125s. preflight travel check was ok but under load it skipped.

Terminator

Jun 11, 2007, 01:11 AM

Tell us how you feel about the Charisma :p
I think I hear posturing for a new f3f plane...
Might just as well get one for double duty for MOM racing as well...
Aris or the all new Furio "V" or maybe a Skorpion....or a new Ascot...
Heres to the next ISR at Davenport

Alan

glderguy

Jun 11, 2007, 11:00 AM

John, check out the F3B Victor Kubos builds. Joe F, although he has little time on it, is starting to get it set up and it is turning out to be a pretty decent F3Fer even though it is large. I think he is liking it pretty much. Plus you can MOM and thermal it if you like as well.
Walter

glderguy

Jun 11, 2007, 11:01 AM

Excuse me, Lubos, not Kubos!

djklein21

Jun 11, 2007, 03:28 PM

PB two 34.XX

Personal speed bests are not that important, they are conditions dependant.

The best run I ever flew was a 46. I would rather beat Tom Copp in a contest than have a faster P.B. BTW Nothing against Tom, he is just one of the best F3F pilots in the US

target

Jun 14, 2007, 12:23 AM

You newer guys should all post your PB's here:

http://www.sloperacing.com/results/pb.htm

It will give Nathan something to do. Don't call in between rounds, though, wait at least until the race is over!

Target

timmig

Jun 14, 2007, 11:01 AM

PB's should all be on the ASRO page--
there's a World listing there! Keep up with the rest of the world---
TIm Bigley's time is the fastest EVER recorded at this point.
And Target--I'll be ready to come and get ya this winter--when we get back to Parker!! :)
Tim

target

Jun 14, 2007, 11:13 PM

If I retire now, while I'm ahead (of you, who cares about anyone else!), then I can say that I didn't try to defend that!

You buying any of this?

Target

droydx

Jun 14, 2007, 11:39 PM

OT a bit.
Just a thought, maybe it's been done: bracket racing for times. You call your time before launch and then are ranked according to percentage off + or - . Maybe you could penalize slower times by doubling that % or something. Any old slug could compete, just so they were consistent and knew their ship. Drag racers do it so all different kind of vehicles can compete head to head.
"Big Daddy" Droydsker

infopimp

Jun 15, 2007, 12:06 AM

Posting here and on the site for Nathan.

51.24*

Hope to go faster in my second race. :) :)

*might not qualify because TimB was coaching me... I'm going to have to check with the international F3F community before removing the star ;)

slopetrashuk

Jun 15, 2007, 07:19 PM

Just FYI ...Coaching is not allowed under FAI rules after the launch.

target

Jun 15, 2007, 07:30 PM

Just FYI ...Coaching is not allowed under FAI rules after the launch.

I find that one rule a little amusing; everytime I coach someone newer than me, they wind up going SLOWER than without me! :eek:

Maybe that's why the rule was created! :rolleyes:

Seriously, for a first time guy, i see zero harm in a bit of coaching, but usually I would think that a record is not possible in the situation I'm talking about anyway.
I can see where it could come into play in other circumstances, though.

T

timmig

Jun 15, 2007, 07:53 PM

Hey Target--don't forget--the european's invented this stuff and they get "real stuffy" when the yanks go faster!!! Just ask Bigley!! :):)

And "no" -- I'm not buying anything from ya--just look in the mirror-I'll be missing!!! :p
T

slopetrashuk

Jun 16, 2007, 03:12 AM

Yeh, But you're still flying 100 yards to our 100 metres.......
Bound to be quicker when your thermal comes!

target

Jun 16, 2007, 08:51 AM

Yeh, But you're still flying 100 yards to our 100 metres.......
Bound to be quicker when your thermal comes!

No, you are kidding, right? :confused:

Why not just discount anything we do over here; oh, wait. That IS what is happening! :rolleyes:

T

slopetrashuk

Jun 16, 2007, 09:12 AM

Ooo..Did I catch one?
Why do you think you're being 'discounted' T?
I don't see it myself. Not in the UK anyway.

timmig

Jun 16, 2007, 11:30 AM

See now there ya go Target-- I stir em up--and you fall for the short hook!!
T

target

Jun 16, 2007, 11:54 AM

Well, maybe.

But we do fly a 100+ METER course, not 100 YARDS, so it's getting a bit old. :mad:

Next thing you know, someone will come up with the theory that a second in our continent is longer than a second elsewhere. :rolleyes:

T

Andy_b

Jun 16, 2007, 12:20 PM

Next thing you know, someone will come up with the theory that a second in our continent is longer than a second elsewhere. :rolleyes:

T
Now were not talking about a microsoft second here are we ........ :D

slopetrashuk

Jun 16, 2007, 01:01 PM

Well, I'll not mention Hubble tolerances if you won't.......

Dassel

Jun 21, 2007, 08:10 PM

Ooo..Did I catch one?
Why do you think you're being 'discounted' T?
I don't see it myself. Not in the UK anyway.
No, there's actually sometimes a bit of that. I track cars and drive a thing called a Noble M400 (British and very fast) and the Brits have a hard time accepting the power and performance figures that some Americans have achieved with "their" car.

slopetrashuk

Jun 22, 2007, 02:16 AM

I accept that...But I don't see it in F3F in the UK We're far more likely to question the performance of the 'Germans'.....
Historical reasons I think...

Brian Wa

Jun 22, 2007, 04:48 AM

Posting personal F3F times is a waste of time as the time flown is totally dependant on the local conditions, the slope, wind direction and speed, not to mention thermal activety.
You can fly a 38 second run, but 5 minutes later it will be impossable to do 50 seconds because conditions have changed.

Let's not get into a slanging match over who is better, who trusts who etc.

The actual time you fly in an F3F competition is unimportant, just as long as the other guy's in the contest fly slower than you.

Brian

slopetrashuk

Jun 22, 2007, 11:12 AM

And remember....The faster you are the less flying you actually do!

timmig

Jun 22, 2007, 11:22 AM

"You can fly a 38 second run, but 5 minutes later it will be impossable to do 50 seconds because conditions have changed."

quote

And that's the real problem with F3F-- it will never be completely fair. :rolleyes: One can argue that "over many runs" it evens out. But that's simply not exactly accurate. Conditions are always changing! The only really true test of pilots is Man on Man!!! ;) That way, you all fly the same air!! So come on out to Grass Mtn in August and "be the fastest Man"!! :D

And remember--just one man's viewpoint! :p

PB- 31.79

And I have won some contests-- yes- the better pilots will come out at the top-- but the fastest that day will always have to bow to "luck" as well. It's just the nature of the beast. MOM racing takes the "luck" out! Now it SKILLZ! :D

slopetrashuk

Jun 22, 2007, 01:32 PM

How come the same ones usually win then????

Brian Wa

Jun 22, 2007, 01:58 PM

So Andy, are you saying that the results of the Viking race in Scotland last year was totally fair ????
A group of 90 pilots with a slot taking almost all day, a wind swing of 90 degrees during the day. ????

The Herrig brothers wrote in a German magazine that they may not fly F3F again because of the unfairness of the F3F format, especially with such a large entry as was the case in Scotland 2006.

Brian

slopetrashuk

Jun 22, 2007, 04:30 PM

djklein21

Jun 22, 2007, 06:45 PM

Why isolate one race? Why not pick the VR in Rugen? 75 pilots with almost 20 rounds completed and the same Herrig winning the last 5 consecutively?

I used to think the same but the cream always rises to the top man. The buzz for the other guys is putting one over on them every now and again with a well flown piece of air.

I thought this thread was about PBs. My PB might be better than Tom Copp's or Andreas Herrig's, but I am not half the F3F pilot of either. PBs are first and foremost about conditions and second about pilot skill. This is true for F3F,F3b,DS...

Contest wins are about Pilot Skill

Jantar2A

Jun 27, 2007, 08:05 PM

My pb is 33.76

Nick

infopimp

Jun 27, 2007, 08:36 PM

Nick, that's a damn fine time.

Jantar2A

Jun 27, 2007, 09:21 PM

Nick, that's a damn fine time.

Parker Mtn. helped alot,,lol

Nick

concreteman

Jun 27, 2007, 09:47 PM

Parker helped me to a smooth lil 31.49. The next month I had a better shot and cut, still did a 32.xx. Thats the one I wished I had over, it was 10 degrees warmer in Feb. Man it was cold and gnarly in January. I was CD, and I got killed in the CD chair all day, but it was an epic day. And that was with my well past its prime Sting, holding a whopping 16oz. of ballast.WD

target

Jun 29, 2007, 12:10 AM

31.61!

(From a hand-launch)

T

Doc Holiday48

Jul 02, 2007, 05:17 PM

F3X

Jul 02, 2007, 05:34 PM

Well, I agree with some about the conditions and the site. My PB is 39.71 flown at Parker. I enjoyed that day and there were a lot of people who had faster time than me. Including the the last 2 poster in this thread. But to tell you the truth I'm much more proud of the 50.xx I did at WP a couple of weeks ago, as I had flown 5 sec. faster than I ever had at that site. Site and conditions do make a difference but it is personal improvement that I look for. And that 50.xx run at WP was a big improvement for me.

Just my 2 cents.

Bob

Now your talkin'! My best run was a 45.xx on the coast when everyone else was +5 slower. That's what I am talkin' about!

btw. I also flew a bitch'n 63.xx at the VR 2006. Very proud of that one even though the round winner was low 40's :D :D

PS. Both from a Hand launch!

Paul Garnett

Jul 18, 2007, 04:45 AM

34.52 with my little V Ultra Pico 2.38 meters of fun...flown in wales on the wrecker, wish i was carrying more lead, only 1/2 full...

on the subject of why do the same pilots win, well it comes down to practice, consistancy, and making the best of the air you get, and also timing, how many times have you been the buzzer man, and the plane is outside the course 2,3,4 or more seconds, add that over 9 turns....then look at the guys who win, they more or less nail ever turn.

i was at the eurotour this weekend, did`nt do particulary well, but was consistant, first three rounds 46`s, i was getting some crap air, and i tried all sorts to counter act the crap air, i changed from 2 slugs of ballast to 8, and still flew 46! Kev newton said i could`nt have got anymore out of the air i got, i was also getting the buz on the way back, so i know i was pushing it, sometimes it does come down to conditions, i finished 25th out of 42.

roll on the welsh open

Wingtech

Jul 18, 2007, 06:30 AM

Hi Guys
I have a strange phenomena to report I flew an X21 for my first couple of seasons and got my PB to 40.xx I have now flown 3 other planes within a nats whisker of this with only limited stick time even got close with my Crazy nana :D

Go figure!!

Steve

target

Jul 18, 2007, 07:48 AM

Your time is coming, Steve, just keep flying....

When you do get into the right conditions, and then you "let" the plane go fast, without any subtantial mistakes, you'll crak that 40 second barrier like it was nothing!
You just have to keep flying regularly, to be ready to go when the wind is on your turn up.

Good luck,
Target

Paul- Nice run on such a small plane! Those Pico's must have some heart!