JetCAT P-60 70 and 80 price difference???

[iskoos]

JetCAT P-60 and P-80 is offered at the same price of $2495 (at BVM jets)
P-60 is 13 lbs and P-80 is 20lbs. How could they be at the same price???

And more ridiculously P-70 which has 17 lbs thrust falling in between P-60 and P-80 is priced $200 more than P-60 & P-80 and is $2695!!!

Can someone explain this to me? :confused:

Thanks

[bluescoobydoo]

in the uk the p80 is cheaper than the p60 i dont think the p 80 is as popular as the p60 so they are heavily discounted plus there are new versions coming out soon with kero start fitted

[iskoos]

I see it. I want to get in the trubine and trying to think which engine I should go with.
P-60 was in top of my list but when you see the P-80 is offered at the same price, it makes you think. One is 13 lbs the other is 20 lbs AND SAME PRICE.

And you are saying P-60 is even cheaper than P-80 in UK. That's no sense!..

I started thinking that if they are having any issue with P-80's.

There will be TOP-GUN 2007 here in Lakeland next week. I will go and ask the JetCat guy specifically about this issue.

[joeflier]

Apparently BVM hasn't updated their prices in a while. The P-60, 70, & 80 have each been priced at $2495 everywhere else for at least 6 months.

You should decide what plane you are going to put the engine in, and what is your likely choice for a second jet before deciding on an engine. In my opinion the P-70 rerpresents the better value.

Joe

[B58]

The P-80 has been around for a long time and is a proven design. I paid $3295 for my first one. Price has come down because of avialibity of parts. The P-60 is a totally different design, and is priced to compete with other engines of the same thrust class. The P-70 again is a different design but if I remember right it uses the same compressor as the P80. Of all 3, the P-80 probably has the slowest throttle response, but is a very reliable engine. That being said, you must decide what airframes you are going to use. Also, take a look at Artes. Lifetime warranty! Bob

[Boomerang1]

In Australia it's the same situation

http://www.intairco.net/default.asp?page=products&cat=4&subcat=184&MenuOpen=p7menu4

The P-80 is big & heavy for the amount of thrust it produces, nearly the same size as the P-120 which puts out 28 pounds. It would not surprise me to see it discontinued once stocks are all sold.

When you think about it the parts count is probably the same for each engine, they all come with the same accessories, they all need the same amount of time to manufacture. The only difference is the amount of materials used in each one, probably 10 bucks worth. The P-60 is a totally different design, and is priced to compete with other engines of the same thrust class. Prices reflect what people expect/are prepared to pay. Very few people must be buying the P-80's so down goes the price. - John.

[guaraguao]

Beware of the P-80. Its throtle response is really not-competitive. A friend has one and it takes about 7-8 seconds to go from idle to full power.

Theres a reason its discounted...

[JetCatJimmy]

Beware of the P-80. Its throtle response is really not-competitive. A friend has one and it takes about 7-8 seconds to go from idle to full power.

Theres a reason its discounted...
Now, let's be careful here. The prices came down around November of last year on the P-80 to match the P-60's. I, too, was shopping for a turbine and figured let's get as much turbine as possible for my budget. P-80 it is!

I love mine and the "lag" time you're speaking of is about 3-4 seconds to full throttle from stock 35k rpm. Make sure you know what you're talking about before you diss a company's product.

[Eddie P]

Any Jetcat engine is going to be a satisfying purchase. You are essentially paying for the turbine technology, and then you simply choose your application (P-60/70/80) based on your chosen airframe.

There are a TON of P-60 sized airframes out there. The size is just right for the average flyer, big enough to see and small enough to not have to own a trailer - and you can transport it in one piece in a large SUV sometimes.

The P-70 is for guys that have an airframe that can carry more fuel and weight. It is thirstier than a P-60 and bigger. It can fly a P-80 sized bird well but will lack a bit on power, or fly a P-60 sized bird well but you have compromises in wing loading at the gain of vertical and speed performance.

The P-80 has fewer airframe options as kit designers have rushed to fill the ranks of the P-60/P-70 and then P-120 class. But the P-80 has it's place too.

P-60 airframes are cheaper to build, equip and take less fuel. It's one reason the engine choice is so popular and why so many kits are being offered for the engine.

So really, if you are going to buy a turbine, you are going to pay for the materials and technology that it takes to run a turbine consistently well. You simply choose your size range based on your car, wallet (for the airframe) and personal preference.

I'd choose the airframe first and then choose an engine that is best for the airframe second. Consider your second jet like it's a chess game, so you can keep your first engine happy in the move or fly two airframes on one engine and a seperate install kit down the line when it's time to get the "next" jet.