tugs? enough power to pull me in a pirogue

[bayou_flyer]

ok I am new to the boat world :)
I know yall all love the newbe questions
I want to get into the boats I think a tug would be sweet to have. I know its like cars that it sucks to go slow but i think it would be cool to get pulled down the bayou in my canoe, or as we from down the bayou call it a pirogue. I was wondering how big of a tug would i have to get in order to pull me maybe make some barges and shove em around :D I used to work on tugs and I miss em I dont know what are standard features, but i know I would like to be able to cork screw

Thanks Ross

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

38 " is enough tug we know that much...

It would have more to do with the motor gear and propeller combination.
The Tito's have two graupner 900speed motors about a 3-1 gear ratio, and
60mm propellers.

:cool:

[toesup]

My 14" long 12v ST-FTG 'Sun XXVI' has a pull of 6oz..

My 18" long 6v Springer 'Tigger' has a pull of 1lb 8oz...

On calm water, i guess once the 'canoe' was moving, it wouldnt take much to pull you along..

[der kapitan]

Hi Ross,

A tug with a length of about 36" to 42" would do it with a good moter and prop setup.
I'm saying that size, because a newbie wouldn't get into any problems setting up and installing the running gear into the hull. There'd be plenty of room.

You'll probably be getting a lot of suggestions on kits, etc., from the guys in the forum, so good luck on your project.

[Shaun Hendricks]

I suggest the kit from Evinrude... somewhere in the 5hp model line will do ya. :p :D

[bayou_flyer]

Umi_Ryuzuki is this (http://www.hobby-lobby.com/titoneri.htm) the tug you have? also you say a 60MM prop is that 3 or 4 blade wheel whats better


oh yea shaun i guess ya are talking about the pics below i have it and they push good but i rather use a electric gas price is going up :p :D

[bluezephyr]

Bayou

Welcome aboard and that is a nice Classic motor.

You said that it sucks to go slow. Well I have to beg the differ. Going slow lets you enjoy more running time on the water to look at that beautiful work that you have poored your heart into. And at slow speeds you can actually see it.

Try contacting Harbor models. Dave has a few models of tugs that will have more than enough power for your application. If you go with the Darby find out if he has the hulls ready yet. Tooling for a new hull seems to take awhile.

[bayou_flyer]

what type of boat is this the one called the seahorse any one got a link

where are most pple buying from on the net we dont have a LHS

[smart_racer]

bayou...the hull looks like a Mr. Darby by Dumas Boats, not produced in f/g any longer, and a modified superstructure

[bayou_flyer]

ok i seen Gene Sauter owns that boat any one knows where to get something like this i liek the direct drive i think its simpler for a newbe

[toesup]

Harbour models http://www.harbormodels.com/Harbormain/Templates/index.htm will give you a 'taste' of what is available..
Also Mack http://www.mackproductsrc.com/index.htm

A model like those above will take months of work, hours of blood sweat and tears.. quite a lot of hard earned cash.. and a LOT of patience.

As well as the kit, you will also need radio, batteries, motor(s), tools, paint etc etc.. I'm not trying to put you off, just warning you that once you start, there is a LOT of work involved.

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

bayou_flyer

Yes, the boat in the pictures is a Tito Neri.

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Smart Racer,
Good eye, I was thinking that was a scratch built tug.
Didn't think that the hull might have been a darby hull.

[bayou_flyer]

thanks toesup, I am coming to the reality that it would take me years to do some of these models. LOL I may still look into getting a boat what is easier for a newbe i think a larger hull would be easier for me since parts are large and there is more room to work in it. I was thinking of ordering the Dumas Mister Darby Tug Fiberglass Kit 47" (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXE359&P= )

is this what the seahorse is
I figure 1200 to get it going? or is that not enough it does not have to have the men on the deck and all the detailed stuff just to run and painted

[smart_racer]

bayou...Dumas no longer produces the Darby in a f/g hull, now only in pvc, if it is f/g you want you have to search on Ebay or other for sale sites

[bluezephyr]

Bayou

www.Harbormodels.com is working on the replacement hull for the Darby Call Dave (626-292-1617) there to find out if he has any ready yet. He is very helpful. You might also try one of his kits if you have the patience. His models arn't complete kits. However he has every thing you will need to get on the water and to complete it later.

I'm building a Darby right now and I hope to have the hull in the water soon. I will have the super structure completed soon after that. Then I will take the next couple of years to finish the scale details.

I look at these big models like model train layouts. you get your track laid so you can run the locos then you spend the next few years completing the details.

Your right $1200 is about right to get in the water but dont be surprised if you double that later.

What ever you choose enjoy it and let us know what you went with.

[Massey]

Bayou, I can tell you that the Tito Neri with ALL the goodies to build the boat will be around $1100 shipped. The radio, batteries, ESCs and paint are not included in that price tho. You can build the Tito with out the add on kit but it is worth the $$$ in detail parts. Umi just finished one (as seen pulling the Kayaks above) and she documented the build thoroughly(sp sorry) on this thread here:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=567834

I started the thread but due to the lack of $$$ for the rest of my needed parts I have put the hull aside for now, but will finish it as soon as I can.

If I remember right I bought my Tito from Tower hobbies, service was good and the price was average. You may want to try going through http://www.westbourne-models.com for the kit and the ESCs. I have ordered a few ESCs from them for my boats that were cheaper than my LHS even with airmail freight. I recomend the Mtroniks brand ESCs for boat applications they are water proof and easy to use. 1 Viper Marine 15 and 2 Viper Marine 40s will be needed to power the Tito.

Good luck and happy boating with what ever boat you decide on

Massey

[der kapitan]

Hi Ross,

Well, I told you that you wouldn't go lacking for ideas from these guys, and now you can take your pick, but I suggest you keep it simple for a start.

Otherwise, it'll take forever to get in the water and running.

By the way, do you have anything on Lafitte skiffs?

[ThrustTugKeith]

<<I can tell you that the Tito Neri with ALL the goodies to build the boat will be around $1100 shipped.>>

I'm not even going to tell you what I payed for my Operational Darby Model,shipped to my door. pvt message me if you wanna know.

[Massey]

I'm not even going to tell you what I payed for my Operational Darby Model,shipped to my door. pvt message me if you wanna know.


After the many hours I have already put into my Tito and it is not even 1/2 way done I can imagine what a RTR Tito or Darby would cost.

Massey

[keith S]

bayou_flyer

Yes, the boat in the pictures is a Tito Neri.

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Smart Racer,
Good eye, I was thinking that was a scratch built tug.
Didn't think that the hull might have been a darby hull.

Umi, BBZZZZZZZTTTT. Hate to be the beher of bad news, but that is NOT a TITO. :eek: It is a Darby with a scratch built supperstructure on it. Gene Sauder of LA brought it up to the tug regatta in San Fransico last year. Powerfull tug although a little top heavy.

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

Umi, BBZZZZZZZTTTT. Hate to be the beher of bad news, but that is NOT a TITO. :eek: It is a Darby with a scratch built supperstructure on it. Gene Sauder of LA brought it up to the tug regatta in San Fransico last year. Powerfull tug although a little top heavy.


I thought he was asking about the boat I posted towing the Kayak....

[keith S]

my mistake if that is the case :o :eek:

Sorry. ;)