What is the slowest, smallest pusher jet I can get?

[Scott_S.]

I want to practice high alpha flight. There was a SU 27 with a 16 inch wing span that Hobby Lobby used to sell, but now it's the same plane in XXL
version, about 30 inch wing span. After watching the video, I'm thinking
this may be perfect to practice high alpha, but too new in the game to
really know what's out there. What's your take on it?

Thanks

[RCSuperPowers]

Scott,

This isn't the smallest one around but its fairly small. 22x30 and a flying weight anywhere from13-16oz. The lighter, the better for high alpha. A light battery would be a 1250 or 1300mAh 3 cell.

It will do high alpha better than most cause it has a very simple thrust vectoring system. It will be out in a couple weeks... might be an option for ya.

Dave

[Scott_S.]

Dave, I just checked out the web site, and the video was great.

Last night I watched the F 22 video with thrust vectoring designed by

Steve Shumate, very impressive. In both of those videos, the pilot

would just let the F 22 free fall in a tumble roll flop whatever but the plane

looked so natural when it came out of it, is that a design feature of the plane?

Or is it pilot skill actually bringing the plane out of those freefall tumbles or

whatever you call them?

Definitely an option! Can't wait to see the TV system.

Scott

[simonslim]

Now that was very very good.

Simon.

[Scott_S.]

Will thrust vectoring add to the pilots workload or is it tied in completely
with "pull up" and push down" stick movements ?

[RCSuperPowers]

Thanks guys,

If you want to see the official video of it that has the thrust vectoring maneuvers workings in it, email me and I'll send it to you. Just keep it quiet till the kit comes out in a couple weeks please. ;)

Scott,

What I found that acts almost like parachutes is "spoilerons." I do all the flips and whoopty-whoop and then let go of it and the spoilerons (up flaps) "catch" the plane and make it very stable at zero to slow air speeds. Then I let it fly away and I'm good to go.

So yes, it takes a couple flights at high altitude to get the hang of, but the plane is very stable and will catch itself when it comes out of the tumbles.

All of this (spoileons, vectoring thrust, how to fly it, etc) I will have explained in the "Instructional Videos" on the website. Then you will know for sure if its something you can tackle or not. Its all very simple though.

[Scott_S.]

Great! Looking forward to the "instructional vids" too.

Did S. Shumates F22 have those spoilerons on? Just wondering

because his plane came out of those freefalls in a very similar way.

PM sent.

[LuckyDay]

I scratchbuilt the SU27 inbetween the two Hobby Lobby sizes (24" span) and powered it with a J250. If there is even the slightest breeze, high alpha is a blast. It's a little underpowered with the J250 though, I can't just punch out of there if I want, I have to fly it out. But that's not really so bad. A little CDR motor would probably solve that problem.

[Model Aero]

Scott, take a look at our 26" span AeroSport. It does awesome high alpha flight at very slow speeds.

Watch the AeroSport Video (http://detraytest.com/modelaero/video/Aerosport_0008.wmv)

There's an excellent high alpha segment towards the end of the video.

Scott

www.ModelAero.com

[RCSuperPowers]

Scott,

Got your PM, just emailed you the video. :)

On that particular video of Steve's he was not running spoileons. He had just the opposite, flaps.

The Aero there would be a nice one too for high alpha. Its got all the right components for it:
- Light weight.
- Elevons IN the prop wash (thats what you need when your air speed is low)
- Large wing area with the delta wing (get some good float)
- And my personal favorite, CANARDS! They make the plane very stable at slow speeds and nose up high alpha. Keeps the plane from tip stalling too.

[Scott_S.]

Hey Scott, the Aerosport is one I'm going to build, hope to pick one up at
Toledo, if not, I'll order online.
Thanks SS

[Model Aero]

Hey Scott, the Aerosport is one I'm going to build, hope to pick one up at
Toledo, if not, I'll order online.
Thanks SS

Scott, that sounds great! If you are at Toledo, stop by the booth and introduce yourself!

I am also doing an EDF version of the AeroSport, but it doesn't do the high alpha as good as the prop version.

Scott

www.ModelAero.com