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Zachman
Jan 03, 2007, 03:12 PM
Its seixed on. Applied some gental heat and it still won't slide of :(
Hpi Savage 25 btw
Any suggestions?
Iridium
Jan 03, 2007, 05:11 PM
"Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
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> Its seixed on. Applied some gental heat and it still won't slide of :(
>
> Hpi Savage 25 btw
>
> Any suggestions?
>
That happened to me once - it's the bearings that have welded on. IIRC I
clamped the bell teeth bit in vice and gently tapped on the end of the crank
(I'm not responsible if you knacker your crank trying this...). Maybe try a
flathead screwdriver under the bell and twist it?
--
Dan
Formerly DanTXD
Zachman
Jan 03, 2007, 05:11 PM
"Iridium" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
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>> Its seixed on. Applied some gental heat and it still won't slide of :(
>>
>> Hpi Savage 25 btw
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>
> That happened to me once - it's the bearings that have welded on. IIRC I
> clamped the bell teeth bit in vice and gently tapped on the end of the
> crank (I'm not responsible if you knacker your crank trying this...).
> Maybe try a flathead screwdriver under the bell and twist it?
>
Tried the screwdriver approach. Don't like the sound of the other idea, but
might not have any choice. ANyone reccomend a good replacement engine in
case? ;)
Iridium
Jan 03, 2007, 05:11 PM
"Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
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> "Iridium" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
>> news:459c079b_3@x-privat.org...
>>> Its seixed on. Applied some gental heat and it still won't slide of :(
>>>
>>> Hpi Savage 25 btw
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>
>> That happened to me once - it's the bearings that have welded on. IIRC I
>> clamped the bell teeth bit in vice and gently tapped on the end of the
>> crank (I'm not responsible if you knacker your crank trying this...).
>> Maybe try a flathead screwdriver under the bell and twist it?
>>
> Tried the screwdriver approach. Don't like the sound of the other idea,
> but might not have any choice. ANyone reccomend a good replacement engine
> in case? ;)
>
Go .28, Mach 427, HPi 4.6, OS.30 are all sound blocks :)
--
Dan
Formerly DanTXD
Zachman
Jan 03, 2007, 07:11 PM
"Iridium" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Iridium" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:502harF1eae4rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
>>> news:459c079b_3@x-privat.org...
>>>> Its seixed on. Applied some gental heat and it still won't slide of :(
>>>>
>>>> Hpi Savage 25 btw
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>
>>> That happened to me once - it's the bearings that have welded on. IIRC
>>> I clamped the bell teeth bit in vice and gently tapped on the end of the
>>> crank (I'm not responsible if you knacker your crank trying this...).
>>> Maybe try a flathead screwdriver under the bell and twist it?
>>>
>> Tried the screwdriver approach. Don't like the sound of the other idea,
>> but might not have any choice. ANyone reccomend a good replacement engine
>> in case? ;)
>>
>
> Go .28, Mach 427, HPi 4.6, OS.30 are all sound blocks :)
>
Some more heat and alot of vise grip style encouragement. Saying that the
bearing on the inside of the bell has seized on as well. Any ideas why this
happens and how to prevent it in the future?
Iridium
Jan 03, 2007, 07:11 PM
"Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
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> "Iridium" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Iridium" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:502harF1eae4rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:459c079b_3@x-privat.org...
>>>>> Its seixed on. Applied some gental heat and it still won't slide of :(
>>>>>
>>>>> Hpi Savage 25 btw
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That happened to me once - it's the bearings that have welded on. IIRC
>>>> I clamped the bell teeth bit in vice and gently tapped on the end of
>>>> the crank (I'm not responsible if you knacker your crank trying
>>>> this...). Maybe try a flathead screwdriver under the bell and twist it?
>>>>
>>> Tried the screwdriver approach. Don't like the sound of the other idea,
>>> but might not have any choice. ANyone reccomend a good replacement
>>> engine in case? ;)
>>>
>>
>> Go .28, Mach 427, HPi 4.6, OS.30 are all sound blocks :)
>>
> Some more heat and alot of vise grip style encouragement. Saying that the
> bearing on the inside of the bell has seized on as well. Any ideas why
> this happens and how to prevent it in the future?
>
The bell has just got too hot due to clutch slippage (standard 3 shoe black
HPi teflon clutch I assume?). Vented clutch bells help a lot, as do Alu
shoes (I like Hong Nor Long Life with 1.1mm springs - slipping bit time
reduced).
--
Dan
Formerly DanTXD
\Doc\
Jan 03, 2007, 11:11 PM
"Zachman" <no.pe.sorry@not.this.time.com> wrote in message
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> Some more heat and alot of vise grip style encouragement. Saying that the
> bearing on the inside of the bell has seized on as well. Any ideas why
> this happens and how to prevent it in the future?
Replace your clutchbell bearings often! I replace mine whenever I have the
clutchbell off for clutch shoe/spring servicing, engine maintenance, etc.
Even if you have to beat the s&*t out of it to get it off...........all
you're going to ruin is the crankshaft which can be had pretty cheap on
e-bay.
A suggestion.............if you have a dremmel with heavy duty cutting discs
or a jigsaw with a metal blade..........hell, even a sawsall with a "torch"
blade would work...........mount the engine in a vice, clutchbell facing up,
and zip off a side of the upper part of the bell (where the teeth are).
This might crack the bond the bearings have with the crank and allow you to
pop it off.
Doc
Justin Mahn
Jan 04, 2007, 07:11 AM
Zachman wrote:
> Its seixed on. Applied some gental heat and it still won't slide of :(
>
> Hpi Savage 25 btw
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
You squeezed it between your legs and cranked on it?
Bad bad bad thoughts.
There is a tool for removing flywheels that looks like a mini steering
wheel puller. That should get your clutch bell off.
--
Justin Mahn
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