E-Sky E-Smart 600 Class E-Copter build & Fly

[Gary Morris]

E-Sky E-Smart 600 Size Build Log

For the past several days I’ve been building the new E-Sky E-Smart 600 class helicopter. This is a new product from E-Sky that will target those flyers wanting to get into the larger class of electric helicopters. The specs are listed below:

E-Sky E-Smart 600 Class helicopter

Length 1070mm
Height 370mm
Width 270mm
Main Blade Diameter 1185mm
Tail Blade Diameter 220mm
Motor Drive Gear 12T
Main Drive Gear 120T
Empty Weight 1600g
Battery 6S2P 4200ma or larger recommended
Suggested Servo Size Standard size servos


Electronics Installed

Hitec QPCM 7 Channel Receiver
Hitec HS- 635MG Servos
Futaba GY-401 Gyro
Jeti Spin 77 Speed Controller
UBEC High Voltage BEC
Flight Power EVO 20 5000ma 6S2P Lipoly pack

The frame is constructed of a lightweight aluminum, which provides a very rigid frame once the servos and motor are installed. The linkages are mechanical E-CCPM with linkages rods controlling the swash plate. Since I’m using a Hitec Eclipse 7 transmitter I set it up for 120 degree swash with 70% setting on channel 1, 2 and 100% on pitch, channel 6. The landing gear is attached to the frame using 4 metal screws and lock nuts. The entire frame is held together using these same locking nuts which precludes the need for loctite. The tail boom is pre-built with the belt drive installed and no adjustment was necessary other than installing it onto the frame. A very clever connection is made using hex shaped spacers that run through the boom and the plastic boom block is also hex shaped so that it secures the spacers in place. These spacers are also threaded so that metal screws can secure it to the frame members. A large gyro platform is provided which easily allows you to install any of the popular gyros on the market including the new 2100 and 6100 gyros from Logictech. I opted to use a standard Futaba GY-401 for this build. Blades are included in the kit an constructed of wood covered in a white shrink-wrap. I had to add a little weight to one blade in order to get them to balance. I may switch over to carbon blades after testing. Here are a few pictures using the HeliDirect pictures, I'll enclude pictures of my actual E-Smart as we go along.

[Gary Morris]

The motor is a generic E-Sky out runner rated at 50 amps maximum amp draw and 1200 RPM per volt. The instructions are very basic with little or no explanation and just a few exploded parts diagram pictures. There is and included addendum page with changes to the anti-rotation mechanism, which has apparently been added to this kit after the original kit, was manufactured. The linkage rod lengths were correct with the exception of two rods being the wrong length. Two additional rods were incorrect and this was probably due to a packing error. I am using the Jeti Spin 77 Amp controller for this project, which allows much more adjustment by the user, and in addition it provides on board data logging. This should help a great deal since it shows motor run time, highest temperature of ESC, starting temperature of ESC, starting and ending voltage max amp draw and whether any errors were recorded during the flight. There was a problem with one of the aluminum collars that secures the main shaft and one-way bearing which required me to remove approximately 1 ½ mm of material on the collar in order for the hole to line up so that a screw can hold the main shaft onto the one-way bearing. Additionally the standoff spacers provided for the servo mounting were incorrectly listed in the manual and I had to fabricate four spacers for one of the servos so that the linkages would line up correctly without binding. The canopy appears to be made of and injected molded plastic and the windshield is made of clear smoked plastic. The windshield is attached to the canopy using 4 small course thread metal screws and this attachment method appears to work well. The included decals are the stick on type however they do not stick to the surface very well since it has a matt finish and is not perfectly smooth. I would guess that painting the canopy would be difficult because the paint probably won’t stick to the plastic. Installation of the servos is time consuming since some of the parts are difficult to hold in place while installing the servos in the frame. The linkage rods that connect the back swash plate are a little difficult to install since they are located inside of the frame and there is not much room to work. After completing the build there was some binding noted which required that some of the ball links be resized in order to reduce the binding. The anti-rotation device was also binding and required filing the inside of the part so that it would work smoothly. Here are a few more pictures of the servos, Spin 77, gyro and receiver platform. Using the Evo 6S2P pack it was easy to get the proper center of gravity position by moving the pack forwards and backwards as needed. It also appears that changing the battery to charge and fly can be done without removing the canopy. This can be accomplished by just sliding the battery into the bottom opening of the helicopter and then attaching your favorite type of tie-downs. This should help because save time since the canopy takes a little time to get installed because it has four fasteners, two on each side to hold it in place. The supplied E-Sky brushless out runner motor when attached to the motor mounting plate pressed against the top of the frame causing binding. I used the included aluminum washers under the motor so that it raised it up 1mm, enough to clear the frame. There appears to be ample space for gear mesh adjustment and I adjusted for minimal gear lash. Since the motor has very strong magnets it is not recommended you try to spin the blades backwards because of the cogging effect of the magnets, this could cause gear damage if you try to force it in a reverse rotation.
You can expect to spend several evenings building your new E-Sky E-Smart helicopter so take your time and enjoy the build. Since the frame is complete along with the tail boom and belt drive, the majority of your build time will be spent building up the head, installation of servos and electronics and installing the decals and cutting out the windscreen for the canopy. I strongly suggest you invest in a digital caliper so that you can make the critical measurements for the linkage rods, fly bar location and servo arm measurements. You will also need a good set of hex head Allen wrenches, Phillips screwdrivers, pitch gauge, and a socket set in small mm sizes. Since you will be soldering the electronics, i.e., speed controller, and UBEC you’ll also need a good soldering iron of at least 50-Watt size and a smaller 25-30 watt iron. If you don’t have a good selection of wire ties you may want to pick up a few packages of small and medium sized ties. Stick on Velcro will also aid in holding your battery in place in addition to Velcro ties.

[Gary Morris]

Today I flew the E-Smart and did a little trimming. The helicopter only required a little forward trim, blade tracking was spot on. With the included Evo 20 5000ma 6S2P pack it's easy to slide it back and forth to get a good CG and the battery had plenty of power to spare. I am anxious to get it out in a larger field to do some fast circuits and stall turns. In addition I will need to add more negative expo to tone down the sensitivity of the controls. I started out using -15% on the aileron and elevator servos, I will probably increase it to -25%. I'll keep you posted on how things progress.

Gary Morris

[PetruSoroaga]

Today I flew the E-Smart and did a little trimming. The helicopter only required a little forward trim, blade tracking was spot on. With the included Evo 20 5000ma 6S2P pack it's easy to slide it back and forth to get a good CG and the battery had plenty of power to spare. I am anxious to get it out in a larger field to do some fast circuits and stall turns. In addition I will need to add more negative expo to tone down the sensitivity of the controls. I started out using -15% on the aileron and elevator servos, I will probably increase it to -25%. I'll keep you posted on how things progress.

Gary Morris

Shouldn't you add positive expo to reduce sensitivity around middle stick?
Negative expo would increase the sensitivity around middle stick.
I mean, that's what an exponential function graph would look like.

Petru

[Gary Morris]

Using the Hitec radio it's the opposite, on Futaba your absolutely correct.

Gary

[laughingstill]

Shouldn't you add positive expo to reduce sensitivity around middle stick?
Negative expo would increase the sensitivity around middle stick.
I mean, that's what an exponential function graph would look like.

Petru
I agree, check your manual before adjusting. I would hate for you to crash that nice brand new heli because of that!

[Rare Bear]

More pics, Gary!! I want to see the Smart w/ the canopy on - all dressed up!!

Awesome build thread - keep it up!! :D

God bless - "Rare"

[Gary Morris]

As I said, with Hitec you use a negative number to reduce throws around center stick, on Futaba you use positive numbers just backasswards from Hitec. I'll take more picture and do a video when the weather is better here. It's been windy here and overcast, not good for pictures or video.

Gary

[badbill]

Futaba AND Hitec use negative expo to reduce sensitivity around nuetral. JR uses positive expo for the same affect.

Bill Davenport
AMA 28141

[Wheelhaus]

"positive or negative" changes simply by how you apply the curve to the graph. A positive expo on the input is the same as negative expo on the output. the curve will look the same.

[badbill]

Futaba AND Hitec use negative expo to reduce sensitivity around nuetral. JR uses positive expo for the same affect.

Bill Davenport
AMA 28141

What I'm reffering to above is the screen display- For softer around nuetral with Hitec and Futaba, dial a negative number. ( IE, a - MInus mark in front of it ) For JR, a positive number is displayed on the screen.

Bill Davenport
AMA 28141

[PetruSoroaga]

"positive or negative" changes simply by how you apply the curve to the graph. A positive expo on the input is the same as negative expo on the output. the curve will look the same.

That makes sense. I was not aware of such differences between radios.
I expected the expo to be applied on the input not on the output :D

Now for some videos of the bird flying.

Have fun,
Petru

[ozace]

More pics!

[Nick J]

So thiis thing takes 600mm blades?

[Gary Morris]

It appears it will, it comes with 550's on it and there's plenty of room for 50 more mm. I think I'm going to put some carbons on it later on after I get more flight time on the bird. It also comes with carbon frame, and full metal head and swash.

Gary

[ozace]

It appears it will, it comes with 550's on it and there's plenty of room for 50 more mm. I think I'm going to put some carbons on it later on after I get more flight time on the bird. It also comes with carbon frame, and full metal head and swash.

Gary

From where, and are spares available yet ?

[Gary Morris]

At this time I'm not exactly sure where spares can be had, but hopefully in the near future they will be available through Hobby-Lobby since they will more than likely carry this product. Right now Hobby-Lobby stocks most of the E-Sky line in the smaller helicopters.

Gary

[Gary Morris]

One thing I failed to mention is the price, the basic kit with aluminum frame and plastic blade grips retails for $238.00 without motor, the other version sells for $318.00 with the E-Sky 1200 RPM Per volt 50 amp motor. Based on the quality of the kit I'd have to say that the price is very reasonable for what you get. Now it's just a matter of time and testing to see how it holds up. It will be interesting to see other fliers reports as this new product becomes available and better known. They also have a carbon framed full metal head helicopter but as of this posting I do not know the price.

Gary Morris

[evoIX]

any updates on this heli? no more testing on it? how does it compare to the trex600 for the price seems very tempting.

how much did u use to set it up gary

[Gary Morris]

How much did I use what? If your talking about how much it cost here's a rough breakout but remember I used quality electronics.

E-Sky E-Smart Kit Price......................$238.00
Jeti Spin 77......................................$199.00
Evo 5,000 20C 6S2P Lipoly pack...........$399.95
Hitec QPCM Receiver..........................$110.00
Hitec HS- 635MG Servos (3) @ $45.00...$135.00
Futaba GY-401 Gyro...........................$119.00
Futaba 9254 Digital Servo.....................$99.00
UBEC High Voltage BEC.........................$39.00
Total......$1338.95

Depending on what flight pack you use, it can lower the price considerably, if you were building a Trex 600 and used the same electronics the cost would be several hundred dollars more.
I have since installed 550 carbon blades but the weather here hasn't cooperated so I haven't had a chance to test fly the new blades. I'm sure they will be even better since carbon blades are heavier and stiffer.

Gary

[AMA Outlaw]

I came up with a similar price for an Erap 550 and the Trex600 comes in about $150 cheaper than my Eraptor setup. Parts support swayed me to the TT camp. That and how Esky has changed the King/Cool parts specs without warning so many times. The Esky heli looks nice though.

My E550:
Kit price............................$295
ZPower Z30-800 and HV45...$230
Align 4200 6S2P.................$180 (going to 8 cell soon!)
Reciever, Dual Conv.(forgot which)..$60
Fut S3151 Servos (3ea)......$90
GY401/9254 Combo............$180
Align BEC..........................$16
TT Wood Blades.................$25
14T, Pinion.........................$15
Total-----------------------$1091

Same price for the Esky if using same batteries and BEC, but the Esky is about $50 cheaper when using the same Rcvr in both. Grand RC has the Trex600 for $1000 similarly setup as my E550. I would like to see the same level of quality and parts availability for the Esky but don't think it will be. It's good to have choices though.

[Gary Morris]

Yes, I agree, I hope that E-Sky manages to maintain good parts support otherwise they will fall by the wayside. The E-Sky is a joy to fly and I'm seriously thinking that it will make a wonderful aerial photography platform in the future. With it's nice size and weight it's not bothered by wind as much as the smaller helicopters and it has wonderful lifting power, more than enough to lift a fair sized camera or camcorder.

Gary

[AMA Outlaw]

Have you had a chance to weigh the Heli and get an AUW (with or without batteries)? I'm glad to hear that it flies well and is stable, can it be setup for 3D or does it look like it will respond too slowly or not handle the stress?

[Gary Morris]

I haven't had a chance to weigh it all up, the battery weight is 24.7 oz by it's self, the empty weight is like 1600 grams or 3 1/2 lbs. I'd say it's close to 6 or 6 1/2 lbs ready to fly. It appears to be strong enough to do 3D but I'm no 3D pilot nor am I interested in 3D flying. It responds quite fast to control inputs, so I don't believe that responding slowly would be and issue. The frame and head with bearing blocks really makes for a very rigid platform that is still fairly light weight. Only time will tell when others buy one and report there findings here.

Gary

[electricfly2002]

Gary,

There is a 3mm brasss washer that goes somewhere on the main shaft, think the part number is 90 or 91. Could not figure out where it goes from the instructions, and no manual on the Esky website either. Can you please help by indicating where this should go?

[Gary Morris]

If memory serves me right, it goes on the bottom of the main shaft, then there's a fairly thick aluminum collar which has to be shaved down for it to fit correctly. There are two owners of this helicopter that I know of, myself and Rarebear. Rarebear also had the same issues with the washers and bearings.

Gary

[electricfly2002]

Thanks Gary,

I also thought it may go there as a type of thrust bearing, but it would not fit - was not keen on shaving down a alu collar without good reason! It also seems that there are some links that are longer than shown in the instructions (linkages B?). It seems that the metal threaded rod is the correct lenght, and that the longer plastic links were incorrectly supplies and not the short links. I installed the longer links, and will see tonight if they are the correct lenght when I start setting up the chopper - hope to fly it tomorrow. Instructions/ manual is not very clear - would be helpful if someone published some photos of head as well. Was interesting to note on website that Esky is sold out - no stock available!

[Gary Morris]

There are several gremlins in the build, the manual lacks clear pictures and exploded 3-D views. The linkage rods and links are the wrong size in the manual, the spacers used on the servos are also listed wrong. You need 8 long spacers and fewer of the short servo spacers. Also the motor rubs on the frame unless you use the thick aluminum washers on top of the motor mounting plate.


Gary

[AMA Outlaw]

That doesn't sound good. My perception of the heli was that it was an entry into bigger helicopters. If you are just moving to bigger helicopters you might not know all the tricks to building that aren't called out in the manual and get stuck in the middle of the build because you don't have a spare "benchstock" on hand or know what to use. Or worse, build it with the parts installed wrong like the manual says to! I'm a little disappointed in that lack of attention to detail from the manufacturer on what should be such a nice helicopter otherwise. Or maybe I'm just reading something else into those "gremlins".

Only 3 of these out there right now?

[Gary Morris]

I say gremlins because from the few I've talked with who have built the E-Smart, they have had the same issues, wrong lengths on linkage rods, parts don't fit properly, and poor instructions. Overall I wouldn't let this prevent me from getting one since it does fly extremely well and it's well though out and constructed very well. This is definitely not a first purchase helicopter, and it's not for a rank beginner although a beginner may be able to construct and fly it with a few corrections in the manual and correct call out for parts. I am only voicing these issues so that anyone else that gets and E-Smart will be able to coast right through the few problems I encountered. I just did a quick check on availability and they show it's in stock: http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=2161



Gary Morris

[FHHOBBIES]

Would this heli and motor take 8S? I have some 4S 4250mah Tanic packs that I can use and I can get these helis here so it seems to be a good option. Price is good.

[Rare Bear]

Hey, guys; we have a large parts list for the E-Smart on the way, and we will be supporting it in full at Heli Direct. I just installed a nice fiberglass canopy on mine, which makes it look great - pics coming soon. :D Anyhow, for those who are interested in the E-Smart, we'll have all your heli/parts needs. :)


God bless - "Rare"
Customer Service/Sales Rep for Heli Direct
larry@helidirect.com

[Gary Morris]

That's great news, if I ever need parts for mine I'll know where to look!

Gary

[FHHOBBIES]

So how would the stock motor hold up on 8S? Anyone have some video of this heli, I only saw the one in the gym but it would be nice to see it fly.

[Gary Morris]

No video of it but it flies very well with lots of power on 6S, I don't know if the motor would work well with 8S, that may be too much for it.

Gary

[Rare Bear]

So how would the stock motor hold up on 8S? Anyone have some video of this heli, I only saw the one in the gym but it would be nice to see it fly.

I've been told by another E-Smart flyer that the below battery work/fits very well. This is what I plan on using when I get my electronics installed.


God bless - "Rare"

[Rare Bear]

Pics of my E-Smart w/ new fiberglass canopy. Hopefully I'll have this bird flying soon. :)



God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

[Nick J]

Hey Larry tell me how that thing flys, maiden my hdx 500 today. It is awesome.

[FHHOBBIES]

What packs are those and where do you get them? Does the heli come with extra pinions or anything?

[FHHOBBIES]

How would this heli compare to a stock Rex 600 on 6S?

[Nick J]

They are 6s 4400 packs from www.helidirect.com

[Rare Bear]

Hey Larry tell me how that thing flys, maiden my hdx 500 today. It is awesome.


Thanks for rubbing it in, Nick - my HDX500 is still in the box! :( That will be my next build, though. :) Good job on the HDX500, though! You'll have to start a thread and fill everyone in! As for the E-Smart, it will come after the HDX500, so it may be a bit. Hopefully soon, though.


God bless - "Rare"

[Rare Bear]

How would this heli compare to a stock Rex 600 on 6S?


Size wise, the E-Smart is the same as the Trex 600, from what I know - considerably larger than my Swift 16. The build is much better than my Swift as well - gorgeous frame, high quality components, and overall, a very well built machine at a great price. I haven't flown the E-Smart or a Trex 600, but Gary has flown the E-Smart, and from what I have heard from him, it flies very well.


God bless - "Rare"

[Rare Bear]

What packs are those and where do you get them? Does the heli come with extra pinions or anything?


The E-Smart w/ brushless motor comes w/ a pinion in the kit - not sure what tooth count it is, but it's set to run w/ the supplied Esky motor, which is massive. Anyhow, it's an awesome kit - can't wait to get it set to go - just need electronics and a heli mechanic. :D


God bless - "Rare"

[nmaxima2k1]

The E-Smart w/ brushless motor comes w/ a pinion in the kit - not sure what tooth count it is, but it's set to run w/ the supplied Esky motor, which is massive. Anyhow, it's an awesome kit - can't wait to get it set to go - just need electronics and a heli mechanic. :D


God bless - "Rare"

Mine flies great and very stable. You won't be disappointed.

[FHHOBBIES]

Is anyone able to get a video up to show performance?

[Rare Bear]

Is anyone able to get a video up to show performance?


I would love to see a video as well, and as for this heli and it's overall quality, I must say that most are unaware of how good it truly is. Lets see some video so we can see this bird in flight!


God bless - "Rare"

[nmaxima2k1]

I would love to see a video as well, and as for this heli and it's overall quality, I must say that most are unaware of how good it truly is. Lets see some video so we can see this bird in flight!


God bless - "Rare"

Type in "Esky E-Smart" on google video to see basic flight. You won't see anything from my videos that would be amusing as all I can do is hover.

[Rare Bear]

Type in "Esky E-Smart" on google video to see basic flight. You won't see anything from my videos that would be amusing as all I can do is hover.


This is what I found on Google. Heli looks smooth & punchy!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6473634753480476879&q=Esky+E-Smart&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0


God bless - "Rare"

[FHHOBBIES]

Yeah, that is the only video I can find, I will search more!

[Rare Bear]

Yeah, that is the only video I can find, I will search more!


Let us know what you find; in the mean time, lets get some vids up, even if it's just hovering!


God bless -"Rare"

[nmaxima2k1]

Here's a pic of my Honey Bee King V2 and E-Smart for size comparison..

[FHHOBBIES]

Nice!

[Rare Bear]

FYI: Large parts order for the Esky E-Smart will be arriving on the 1st of July, and will be on our site shortly after. I'll keep an eye on any missing items - feel free to chime in if we missed anything. :)


God bless - "Rare"
www.helidirect.com
larry@helidirect.com

[FHHOBBIES]

I contacted E-Sky about using 8S on their motor and they told be it would be fine! I am going to finish my 3DX-500 then try this heli on 8S and see what happens! Hope it hold up. Would a 9T pinion be a good place to start and where would I get one?

[nmaxima2k1]

It's probably not noticeable, but that tail boom in the pic is from a TREX 600. I'll post pics tonight of homemade training gear as well...

[nmaxima2k1]

Comments encouraged...

[mecevans]

hey everyone i just noticed bphobbies has them in stock with all the parts!!!

[nmaxima2k1]

hey everyone i just noticed bphobbies has them in stock with all the parts!!!

Thanks for the info...

[Rare Bear]

hey everyone i just noticed bphobbies has them in stock with all the parts!!!


All parts arriving July 1st @ Heli Direct as well. :)


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

[nmaxima2k1]

All parts arriving July 1st @ Heli Direct as well. :)


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

Great, cause I need parts that neither site has in stock...

[Rare Bear]

Great, cause I need parts that neither site has in stock...


Which part? Let me know and I will check for you.


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

[nmaxima2k1]

Which part? Let me know and I will check for you.


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

The tail boom and landing gear..

[Rare Bear]

The tail boom and landing gear..


We have 30 tail booms arriving July 1st, along with 10 sets of landing gears. Hope that helps! :)


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

[nmaxima2k1]

We have 30 tail booms arriving July 1st, along with 10 sets of landing gears. Hope that helps! :)


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

Thanks Rare, can you put them up now and let me go ahead and order? I want them shipped soon as they arrive.

[Rare Bear]

Thanks Rare, can you put them up now and let me go ahead and order? I want them shipped soon as they arrive.

nmax - sorry, but I'm unable to post those new items till they arrive, but you'll see them up very soon. Keep an eye on the site, and we'll have them uploaded very soon. Hope that helps.


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

[bpm]

So whats the score with this bird?

Is she worth saving for?

Value for money when compared to the equivalent Trex?

Plastic / Metal or Carbon, I like the bphobbies metal / carbon deal CNC head included.

I can feel my credit card company jumping for joy already...

Cheers
BPM

[PLATINUM]

I have plans on getting this bird. I have every esky heli there is.. might as well go for the gusto :)

[nmaxima2k1]

I have plans on getting this bird. I have every esky heli there is.. might as well go for the gusto :)

I too love my Esky helis, this one is by far the best. Love the power, from hovering at 2 feet to full power, this thing already jumped 10 feet within a second. Feels like a Raptor 90 on Realflight's simulator.

[PLATINUM]

I too love my Esky helis, this one is by far the best. Love the power, from hovering at 2 feet to full power, this thing already jumped 10 feet within a second. Feels like a Raptor 90 on Realflight's simulator.


scary! I have seen a real rap90 fly.. you kinda wanna step back.

this guy autorotated from about 200ft up.. and came into the parking lot and skid landed.. The heli slid all the way to the exit of the lot.. and he gunned it for fear a car was gonna come. He flew right into this tree with about half the diameter of the rotors. It mowed right through the branchs like a hedge trimmer :eek: Stuff was like 1/4inch think green growth..


what are the flight times with the rec setup?

[Rare Bear]

So whats the score with this bird?

Is she worth saving for?

Value for money when compared to the equivalent Trex?

Plastic / Metal or Carbon, I like the bphobbies metal / carbon deal CNC head included.

I can feel my credit card company jumping for joy already...

Cheers
BPM


Let me know if you're interested - I may be able to set you up with a deal. Email me if you're interested.


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

[nmaxima2k1]

scary! I have seen a real rap90 fly.. you kinda wanna step back.

this guy autorotated from about 200ft up.. and came into the parking lot and skid landed.. The heli slid all the way to the exit of the lot.. and he gunned it for fear a car was gonna come. He flew right into this tree with about half the diameter of the rotors. It mowed right through the branchs like a hedge trimmer :eek: Stuff was like 1/4inch think green growth..


what are the flight times with the rec setup?

I'm not using the recommended battery pack. I'm using 2 11.1 2200mah to make 22.2 2200mah which gives me about 5-10 min flight, keep in mind that's just conservative hovering which is about half throttle. So in the hands of the Szabo's, this will probably last half that, but boy do I love this bird. Very stable even with my gigantic training gear.

[nmaxima2k1]

Let me know if you're interested - I may be able to set you up with a deal. Email me if you're interested.


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

Against my better judgement, I had to purchase from bphobbies for my replacements. Hopefully you guys will get the parts soon of both for this and my King V2. I'm a loyal customer to helidirect.com, but I needs parts.....

[Rare Bear]

Against my better judgement, I had to purchase from bphobbies for my replacements. Hopefully you guys will get the parts soon of both for this and my King V2. I'm a loyal customer to helidirect.com, but I needs parts.....


No worries - gotta have parts! We do, however, have the E-Smart parts/King parts - just haven't had the chance to upload them on our site due to the chaos of late - just moved into a new warehouse, which has delayed things quite a bit. But, we should have them loaded up on the site at any moment - hopefully after the holiday.


God bless - "Rare"
larry@helidirect.com

[PLATINUM]

Anyone know if there is a significant weight differnce between the carbon, plastic, and metal editions of this heli?

And is there any video yet?

[bpm]

Link to E-Smart Vid

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6473634753480476879&hl=en-CA

Not that I've been looking into this heli at all... :D
Cheers
BPM

[PLATINUM]

Forgot I had seen that one.

All the sites selling it list the heli as 1600gs no matter which version.. you would think there is a big diff between plastic and metal..

[Decnav]

Any other videos found yet? I just purchased the kit and will be buying parts slowly. I only have a stock cp2, so I have to buy everything :D


-Dec

[PLATINUM]

I picked up the kit on the 1 day sale.. just could not let it slip by.. $185 for this heli with motor is crazy!

I am going to build it cheap too.. cheap esc..cheap rx. I want to see just how good/cheap I can get her in the air..

[hurleybt]

I like cheap :)

I paid more for my 450S kit than you did for that thing, plat! The esc for that beastie will tip the scales though! Can't wait to see more of your build!

[PLATINUM]

I had started a thread on this in the mini section.. I know there are several folks out there who have E-sky 600 and post. Just want make sure folks can find the info they need and share what they know..

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=714124

[mgb1973]

i just got the e smart can you please tell me which side does the aileron servo go and the pitch servo would be on other side thank you 1973mgb

[sting35]

i just got the e smart can you please tell me which side does the aileron servo go and the pitch servo would be on other side thank you 1973mgb

mgb1973,
This thread hasn't had any activity in almost two years. :eek: Go to
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=714124 for the active thread. But, to answer your question... on mine, the pitch servo is on the forward, right-hand side with the servo arm inboard. I really think it doesn't matter which side you put it on, though. The other two servos are in the rear servo bays with servo arms outboard.

Sting