ClearView Flight Sim Wishlist (Ongoing)

[skirtz]

Did you get more trial time?

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[skirtz]

Finally, ALL models, helis and planes are converted to breakable parts. Many thanks to Ken for his superb work on the models ! The new version 4.94 is on the web site.

This is probably the last version where all 82 models are included. In order to lower the download size, I am considering to release smaller installation file with 30 models and few flying fields included stock. The rest will be downloadable from the web site.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[Ohio AV8TOR]

Finally, ALL models, helis and planes are converted to breakable parts. Many thanks to Ken for his superb work on the models ! The new version 4.94 is on the web site.

This is probably the last version where all 82 models are included. In order to lower the download size, I am considering to release smaller installation file with 30 models and few flying fields included stock. The rest will be downloadable from the web site.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

Way to go guys

[mitchfx]

Whohoo! Just amazing, guys. Can't wait to check it out. Thanks for all the hard work.

Finally, ALL models, helis and planes are converted to breakable parts. Many thanks to Ken for his superb work on the models ! The new version 4.94 is on the web site.

This is probably the last version where all 82 models are included. In order to lower the download size, I am considering to release smaller installation file with 30 models and few flying fields included stock. The rest will be downloadable from the web site.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[handyflyer]

Does anyone have a phase 3 ef-16?? It is a real popular edf and would be much appreciated. Just wish I knew how to make these models so I wouldn't have to ask for them!! Don

[dmulligan]

Finally, ALL models, helis and planes are converted to breakable parts. Many thanks to Ken for his superb work on the models ! The new version 4.94 is on the web site.

This is probably the last version where all 82 models are included. In order to lower the download size, I am considering to release smaller installation file with 30 models and few flying fields included stock. The rest will be downloadable from the web site.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

Have you considered making them downloadable from within the application?

David

[mitchfx]

This is probably the last version where all 82 models are included. In order to lower the download size, I am considering to release smaller installation file with 30 models and few flying fields included stock. The rest will be downloadable from the web site.


http://rcflightsim.com

How big would the download be for everything? I would personally prefer all models and scenery to be included. If not, consider offering two different download options...or maybe having all models in ONE additional download and all fields in another. This way we won't have to download dozens of individual files and sort through them.

thanks

[macr0t0r]

What Clearview needs is a user-defined folder to put downloaded planes and scenes into. That way we don't have to do the file-shuffle whenever we update. Then it's just a matter of checking the models themselves for updates.

- Jim

[Turtle_Flyer]

I just saw the new 4.94 version posted. Is there a link somewhere that tells how to upgrade? I think I remember reading somewhere that you have to preserve your model directory somehow? Scenery too? De-Install and install new version followed by copying the model and scenery dirs back?

[Turtle_Flyer]

I think the Flipper plane is CV is kind of unique. Is this a real plane/kit? It is a nice slow flying glider of sorts.

[handyflyer]

Love the sabre. Has anyone else tried it?? I am curious how close it flies to the phase 3 f-16. Thanks DonI guess I should have been more clear. The top list are ones I'd LIKE to see added to Clearview. The bottom list is what I've been working on myself. However, I did actually start on a Super Cub this morning but it's a couple of days away from being RTF.

Here are the two that are ready (sorta) so far...

http://www.mitchgates.com/models/mig-15.zip
http://www.mitchgates.com/models/Sabre.zip

I haven't actually flown the Alfa jets yet (need more practice first), so if anyone with direct experience could give some feedback I'd really appreciate it!

-M

[handyflyer]

Flew the Cub. Seems kinda fast for the cub. I own one and it will do only 35 mph or so. Also something weird. When you steer it on the ground, the inputs are backwards. In the air they are fine. Thanks Mitch. Great job. I am not being sarcastic. I really do like the Cub except for those 2 small issues. DonI guess I should have been more clear. The top list are ones I'd LIKE to see added to Clearview. The bottom list is what I've been working on myself. However, I did actually start on a Super Cub this morning but it's a couple of days away from being RTF.

Here are the two that are ready (sorta) so far...

http://www.mitchgates.com/models/mig-15.zip
http://www.mitchgates.com/models/Sabre.zip

I haven't actually flown the Alfa jets yet (need more practice first), so if anyone with direct experience could give some feedback I'd really appreciate it!

-M

[Ohio AV8TOR]

I just saw the new 4.94 version posted. Is there a link somewhere that tells how to upgrade? I think I remember reading somewhere that you have to preserve your model directory somehow? Scenery too? De-Install and install new version followed by copying the model and scenery dirs back?

When you download the file you will be taken to the page with the instructions. As the new release updates all of the aircraft to breakable models you should only copy third party models and landscapes not the complete model directory.

[Turtle_Flyer]

Ah.....I did not scroll down on the DL page. Sorry. Thanks.

When you download the file you will be taken to the page with the instructions. As the new release updates all of the aircraft to breakable models you should only copy third party models and landscapes not the complete model directory.

[Zaragon]

I think the Flipper plane is CV is kind of unique. Is this a real plane/kit? It is a nice slow flying glider of sorts.
Not quite sure I'd call it slow flying unless you have a different flipper from the one I built.

Just in case we are talking about different models, the one I know is an electric flying wing with a transparentish covering.

Although it is based upon a plan from one of the UK model mags how it flies is ficticious. Between Ken and myself we wanted it to by fast furious and fun.

I can't recall which model mag it was but the model was called Flipper and it was the real plan size.

[Turtle_Flyer]

Not quite sure I'd call it slow flying unless you have a different flipper from the one I built.
alled Flipper and it was the real plan size.

I found another Flipper on the web. But it is not the same as the one in CV.

The main thing I was wondering is if indeed the flying is realistic on the Flipper in CV. If it was it would be very cool as the thing does slow to a crawl. If it were realistic I would build one assuming I could find the plans.

[RMG2]

Can anyone confirm that an Esky 0406A (not 0406) works with Clearview or not? On the Esky web site it says the 0406 has a simulator port, but in the 0406A it says it has a trainer port. Both have the same USB port in the back of the case. Does one work with a sim and the other doesn't?

Reason I ask is I purchased what was suppose to be a 0406 but was sent a 0406A by the retailer. I tried to configure it in windows game controller but only two axis move in the calibration window. I tried configuring it in Clearview and could only get the rudder to move in the calibration window.

Can anyone confirm the 0406A will or will not work so I can either send the TX back, or learn how to configure it.

Thanks for the help.

[skirtz]

Can anyone confirm that an Esky 0406A (not 0406) works with Clearview or not? On the Esky web site it says the 0406 has a simulator port, but in the 0406A it says it has a trainer port. Both have the same USB port in the back of the case. Does one work with a sim and the other doesn't?

Reason I ask is I purchased what was suppose to be a 0406 but was sent a 0406A by the retailer. I tried to configure it in windows game controller but only two axis move in the calibration window. I tried configuring it in Clearview and could only get the rudder to move in the calibration window.

Can anyone confirm the 0406A will or will not work so I can either send the TX back, or learn how to configure it.

Thanks for the help.

Some older E-Sky and E-Flight 6 ch transmitters send mixed channels over the Tx interface and will only work properly with USB cable from http://milehighwings.com

All new E-Sky and E-Flight 6 ch transmitters have a dip switch behind the battery hatch that switch the channel mixing off, so it will work with any USB simulator interface. Do not forget to switch it back when ready to fly the real model, or the controls will be messed up.

If you can turn the mixing off, you can get a cheap 4 channel USB cable
(works well with ClearView) from here:
http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4603

or a very good 6 channel GWS USB cable from here:
http://www.allerc.com/index.php?cPath=91

If you can't get the mixing off you need to get 8 channel cable from here:
http://milehighwings.com

As best choice I recommend this practical usb controller, because works well and does not require batteries:
http://www.raidentech.com/e4chflsitrki.html


Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[RMG2]

Some older E-Sky and E-Flight 6 ch transmitters send mixed channels over the Tx interface and will only work properly with USB cable from http://milehighwings.com

All new E-Sky and E-Flight 6 ch transmitters have a dip switch behind the battery hatch that switch the channel mixing off, so it will work with any USB simulator interface. Do not forget to switch it back when ready to fly the real model, or the controls will be messed up.

If you can turn the mixing off, you can get a cheap 4 channel USB cable
(works well with ClearView) from here:
http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4603

or a very good 6 channel GWS USB cable from here:
http://www.allerc.com/index.php?cPath=91

If you can't get the mixing off you need to get 8 channel cable from here:
http://milehighwings.com

As best choice I recommend this practical usb controller, because works well and does not require batteries:
http://www.raidentech.com/e4chflsitrki.html


Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

Okay Stefan, thank you for that info. and it did help me progress a little with my problem but let my further explain in hopes of getting some resolve.

I already have a Esky 0404 (4-channel) and the Esky USB cable that I have been running Clearview with since I bought your program. I was flying a fixed pitch heli in Clearview and all has been fine. Now, I have built a 6-channel heli so I purchased (retailers almost giving them away) a Esky 0406A (6-channel) so I could run idle-up and learn 3D.

I changed the dip-switches as you suggested above and now my 0406A (6-channel) functions just like my 0404 (4-channel) but I can not get the idle-up switch to function in the Clearview calibration TX setup window.

I cannot even get the keyboard (F2 F4) buttons to work as idle-up or hold as the Cleaview setup window says "off" for those functions and doesn't change from "off" no matter what selections I try???

What am I missing with this please. And yes, I have read all the info. you have supplied on the web site and have not found my fix to this which is why I am asking in here as a last resort.

Would much appreciate help with this, thanks.

[skirtz]

Here is the deal:

No Tx "Idle Up" or "Throttle Hold" can be used to set these conditions because they do not affect any channel that can be detected on the computer - they just change the internal Tx state, so the Tx uses different throttle and pitch curve settings when entering these conditions. That is why you must use the keyboard keys to change Idle Up and Throttle Hold. Assign F1 to Idle Up On and F2 to Idle Up Off and F3 to throttle Hold On and F4 to throttle hold off and will work.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[dmulligan]

Some older E-Sky and E-Flight 6 ch transmitters send mixed channels over the Tx interface and will only work properly with USB cable from http://milehighwings.com

All new E-Sky and E-Flight 6 ch transmitters have a dip switch behind the battery hatch that switch the channel mixing off, so it will work with any USB simulator interface. Do not forget to switch it back when ready to fly the real model, or the controls will be messed up.

If you can turn the mixing off, you can get a cheap 4 channel USB cable
(works well with ClearView) from here:
http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4603

or a very good 6 channel GWS USB cable from here:
http://www.allerc.com/index.php?cPath=91

If you can't get the mixing off you need to get 8 channel cable from here:
http://milehighwings.com

As best choice I recommend this practical usb controller, because works well and does not require batteries:
http://www.raidentech.com/e4chflsitrki.html


Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

Not sure what raidentech charges for shipping but the usb tx is available from DX for $23 including shipping - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1168

[skirtz]

Good find! I checked the raidentech shipping and to California is $8.25 which means dealextreme is quite better.

Stefan

[Zaragon]

I found another Flipper on the web. But it is not the same as the one in CV.

The main thing I was wondering is if indeed the flying is realistic on the Flipper in CV. If it was it would be very cool as the thing does slow to a crawl. If it were realistic I would build one assuming I could find the plans.

Sorry I never built one so I can't guess how it flies. From what I recall it was supposed to be nippy (fast and furious) but stable for someone moving from a beginner to intermediate status. Though in real life being a wing, orientation catches out a lot of people.

[milwiron]

Hi Stefan,
I do all my heli flying with the time scale set to 150.

Is there any way to automatically keep it set there so I don't have to reset it each time I restart Clearview? Would I set- startupparams.txt/timescale to 1.5?

Thanks again for your sim, I really enjoy it.

[1winglo]

Hi Stefan,

A quick observation you may find interesting. I have just realised that CV opens in a window by default. It may be full size, but it is never the less, a window as far as Win 2000 is concerned. This may seem unimportant, however it has a big effect on the way CV performs on my PC.

In the normal CV bootup ie a full size window, the Honey Bee King 2 is a very unstable, very difficult to fly heli. It flies almost as if it has a glitching servo (Don’t ask how I know this comparison! :D )

If I simply click on the expand button and make it a true full size display, it totally changes the way the HBK2 flies. It becomes smoother and you feel more in control instead of chasing it round the sky one step behind it. The difference is quite noticeable.

I see that CV does not remember what I close it as and when I restart it, it defaults back to the ‘fully expanded window’ mode again.

Just something you may like to change in a later version for those of us not in the happy position of super powerful computers!

Dave.

[skirtz]

Hi Stefan,
I do all my heli flying with the time scale set to 150.

Is there any way to automatically keep it set there so I don't have to reset it each time I restart Clearview? Would I set- startupparams.txt/timescale to 1.5?

Thanks again for your sim, I really enjoy it.

As a general rule, to keep everything simple, ClearView will not keep settings that affects all models when restarted because many people may forget what they changed and will assume something is wrong. They may not have experience to search and find was set so they can undo it.

Now, on the time scale - while I can understand why slowing down the time may help in some cases, I see no reason to fly all helis at time scale 150 (which is 50% faster than the normal time flow). Why yould you want to do this?

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[skirtz]

Hi Stefan,

A quick observation you may find interesting. I have just realised that CV opens in a window by default. It may be full size, but it is never the less, a window as far as Win 2000 is concerned. This may seem unimportant, however it has a big effect on the way CV performs on my PC.

In the normal CV bootup ie a full size window, the Honey Bee King 2 is a very unstable, very difficult to fly heli. It flies almost as if it has a glitching servo (Don’t ask how I know this comparison! :D )

If I simply click on the expand button and make it a true full size display, it totally changes the way the HBK2 flies. It becomes smoother and you feel more in control instead of chasing it round the sky one step behind it. The difference is quite noticeable.

I see that CV does not remember what I close it as and when I restart it, it defaults back to the ‘fully expanded window’ mode again.

Just something you may like to change in a later version for those of us not in the happy position of super powerful computers!

Dave.

ClearView is designed to keep the same flight model regarding of frame rate, by performing the physics computations at one constant rate. However, when the frame rate decay under certain level (may be under 20) your controls start lagging because you react to frames that show the model actial position with some time lag - in effect you control the model as if you see it shifted (delayed) in time. This results in feeling you are not in control. I suspect that you get higher frame rate in certain window size and therefore feel that control is better.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[milwiron]

As a general rule, to keep everything simple, ClearView will not keep settings that affects all models when restarted because many people may forget what they changed and will assume something is wrong. They may not have experience to search and find was set so they can undo it.

Now, on the time scale - while I can understand why slowing down the time may help in some cases, I see no reason to fly all helis at time scale 150 (which is 50% faster than the normal time flow). Why yould you want to do this?

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

Hi Stefan,
I generally fly heli models that are sub-micro, I find setting the time scale to 140/150, loosening up the expo a little and cutting the tail power better prepares me for real world flying. Changing the time scale is easier than going through all the parameters. A heli like the Belt CP (for example) is just too easy to fly at normal time rates.

I can always think slower in real life if I need to. ;)

[peegee]

Version 4.92 just released here (http://rcflightsim.com/download.html).

Plane simulation was upgraded to new physics engine and support for breakable parts. Currently only Bellanka Decathlon 480 and Magister Electric are set for the new flight model. All other planes will be upgraded in the comming versions. New helicopters: Blade 400 3d and TRex 500. New planes: Bellanka Decathlon 480, Magister Electric and Seawind EP.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

Hi Stefan
I just built a Magister and the model in ClearView does not have ailerons, which the actual Magister has. Will this be corrected?
Paul

[butch4u]

Can a Dx6 spectrum work with my CV Sim ? Thanks Dan

[helo36]

If you go here...

http://www.bphobbies.com:80/view.asp?id=V918858&pid=V645044&img=l

which is where I went to get pics & info to model the magister, you will find that it comes 3 channel (Elevator, Engine, Rudder)...so it is not a mistake....this does not mean that we cannot modify the plane to have ailerons. I'm sure what you have is an updated model package or different version of the Magister, or just simply that ailerons are an option...I'll look into modifying it for future downloads.

Ken

[1winglo]

Hi Stefan,

CV reports the frame rate as 85. This stays constant no matter if I change from window to full screen or not.

I agree that there is a time lag effect acting here, I feel that my control inputs are behind the model. It is as if I am trying to catch up all the time. This noticeably improves if I change to true full screen. I am using the USB Esky simulator controller.

Just to clarify a point here – my comments about this apply to standard 100% time scale settings.

I do agree with Milwiron that the standard 100% time scale setting is too easy compared to reality. Unlike Milwiron, I have only recently started with helicopters, so my experience in the real world is beginner level and limited to a Honey Bee king 2.

Now, interestingly, the CV HBK2 is more difficult to fly than most of the other CV helis, (The belt cp may as well be painted on my screen it is so easy!) but even the HBK2 becomes closer to my real one if I turn up the time to about 145.

It may well be that there are better places to make the changes, but I lack the knowledge of both the real world helis and CV to be effective in that area!

If I am honest, I guess I must admit that 15 years of earning my income digging in the innards of computers has made me very disinclined to get more deeply involved now. My interest is flying, not building models or programming computers, (Moved on from there!) so I tend to take the easiest route.

What I look for in a simulator is the ability to be able to pick a suitable model and fly it knowing that the experience I gain will make flying a real one easier. Nothing more, nothing less. I don’t want to spend hours building custom models or tweaking this or that. My passion is flying. My PC is purely a tool now.

In that space I must thank you Stefan, for the hours you put in to create the program and to people like you Ken, who build the models. Please do not take my comments as criticism in any way. I comment only because if I do not you may not be aware of some quirk that may be easily fixed, and the comments may also help someone else.

Thanks again for your work and a great program!
Dave.

[butch4u]

My Clearview all of a sudden stopped working !!!! BEWARE GUYS
It seems I can't put Stefan's comments about the license I bought. Here on RCGroups and he issued the Computer Id and activation code for Now it is no longer valid !!!!
I'm very disappointed in this, The sim did work for several months. Dan

[helo36]

Don't know what your problem is...I have had Clearview working on my machine since 2005 and have had no problems with licensing issues. Could it be that possibly you have upgraded your hardware...mainboard,cpu, ect ect.

Ken

[skirtz]

My Clearview all of a sudden stopped working !!!! BEWARE GUYS
It seems I can't put Stefan's comments about the license I bought. Here on RCGroups and he issued the Computer Id and activation code for Now it is no longer valid !!!!
I'm very disappointed in this, The sim did work for several months. Dan

You should not be disappointed. You in fact do not own proper ClearView license, because quite simply, as you indicated in your e-mail you never purchased a license from http://rcflightsim.com. You just got a code from someone else. ClearView license is personal and can not be re-sold. That guy did not have any rights to sell you a license. Only we own the right to sell ClearView licenses. We provide lifetime support and free lifetime upgrades to our customers for only 39.95 which is qute reasonable. If you liked ClearView and wanted to use it, you should have purchased a license from us and not try to "save" by getting just the codes from someone.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[TerryE]

buch;

Contact Stefan - he keeps track of all registered users and I am sure he will issue a new lisence.

I have been using it fine for a couple of years now.

Terry

[skirtz]

buch;

Contact Stefan - he keeps track of all registered users and I am sure he will issue a new lisence.

I have been using it fine for a couple of years now.

Terry
The problem is, he is not registred user - he in fact have never purchased ClearView license.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[butch4u]

The problem is, he is not registred user - he in fact have never purchased ClearView license.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com
Why did it work for several months and YOU issued the Activation code to me ??? Dan

[skirtz]

I have never issued activation code to you for the simple reason you never purchased ClearView license and you do not have login id. You used someones else login id and activated the program in violation of the license. This is illegal and I must warn you to stop using the program and uninstall it from your computer.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[butch4u]

I have never issued activation code to you for the simple reason you never purchased ClearView license and you do not have login id. You used someones else login id and activated the program in violation of the license. This is illegal and I must warn you to stop using the program and uninstall it from your computer.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com
Stefan I uninstalled it and wouln't put it back if you gave it to me !!! You are realy a very poor business person. Dan

[macr0t0r]

Jeez...

The license agreement with purchase states that the license is only for personal use and can not be transferred. It's partly why he only charges $40. Hopefully you used PayPal with whoever decided to disregard the license agreement and sold the code to you so that you can get a refund.

He is certainly not the first shareware author to decline license transfers (especially for lifetime upgrades). If it's not worth $40, then so be it. Whoever "assured" you that the license was transferable is at fault, not Stefan.

- Jim

[ggunners]

butch4u,

You need to go back to the person you bought this license from and get your money back.

I think the ClearView license is excellent, you can try out the sim ahead of time for free and then get a license when you decide to buy. I have had problems with my registration before and Stefan fixes them right up for registered users.

-- ggunners

[FlopGun]

I always thought that Clearview was transferable. Nowhere that I can see on the web site does it say it isn't nor on the FAQ. On the program itself it has a de-activate license feature that itself explains how to transfer to another computer. It does not mention only for same user.

Maybe this is worded somewhere but I missed it.

I think since the other sims like G4 are transferable this is source of confusion.

[skirtz]

The license is shown during installation, in fact you can't install without explicitly agreeng on the license. This is very much the same as in any other program. After installation, the license file is in the clearview folder for your refference. According to the license, no one can distribute, transfer or sell under any means the registered version or the license for this program.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[FlopGun]

Stefan, even the language in the license.rtf is confusing. The way it's stated it sounds like you can't sell or distribute the 'program.' Which means to me the .exe itself, not necessarily the 'license'. The program itself includes a way to transfer the license to another computer, like a friends or moms?

I'm just saying. It does not really refer to the license as non-transferable. Can I give it to my son? can a club by a license, etc.

This all came up because I was considering selling my licensed version, I guess I'll keep it.

[skirtz]

Whitout bothering everyone to death, here are the relevant two paragraphs from the license:

Unregistered use of ClearView after the trial period is in violation of U.S. and international copyright laws. You can not sell, distribute, or transfer without written permission from SVK Systems any copies of the evaluation or registered version of this software. If you purchase a personal ClearView license, you have the right for personal use of a single "Registered version" of ClearView on a single computer at any given time. You can not distribute, transfer or sell under any means the registered version or the license for this program.

All rights of any kind in ClearView RC Flight Simulator, which are not expressly granted in this License, are entirely and exclusively reserved to and by "SVK". You may not rent, lease, modify, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, or create derivative works based on ClearView.

Lets read this sentence again:
>You can not distribute, transfer or sell under any means the registered version or the license for this program.

It sounds very clear to me.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[FlopGun]

I agree that's better language but my license.rtf doesn't say that. (emphasis mine)

Unregistered use of ClearView after the trial period is in violation of U.S. and international copyright laws. You can not distribute without written permission from SVK Systems any copies of the evaluation version of this software. If you purchase a single-copy license, you have the right to use a single "Registered version" of ClearView on a single computer at any given time. You can not distribute or sell under any means the registered version of this program.


which to me is not clear.

[skirtz]

What you probably have is a license from older version, which basically says the same thing - it says you can't sell to other person the registered version. From the first sentence you can't distribute the non-registered version, so each way, you can't sell ClearView. I am software developer and not a lawyer, so I will stop here.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[helo36]

Wondering what IS NOT Clear about this

You can not distribute or sell under any means the registered version of this program.

Ken

[Turtle_Flyer]

Can we move this license debate to a "Clearview License Legal Terminology Debate" thread?

[1winglo]

Hi,
I debated about chiming in here as I agree with Turtle_Flier that this needs its own thread if a debate is necessary. My confusion here is about why any debate is necessary at all. :confused:

1 – It sure seems clear enough to me. Like helo36 says – what is not clear about ‘you can’t re-sell it’ (to paraphrase)

2 – I must say that I have also had CV for some time with no problem. If fact when my hard drive fell over and blew everything away, Stefan supplied a new activation promptly and with no glitch at all. :D

Dave.

[Helos36]

Honestly..I think the issue should be closed...The person who was origionally complaining did not own his software as per the EULA....he got it from someone else then when it would not work in registered mode on his computer due to different ID...So this should not be an issue at all..but just another person trying to get free software or got taken by his friend if he purchased it from his friend.

Ken

[Court461]

Honestly..I think the issue should be closed...The person who was origionally complaining did not own his software as per the EULA....he got it from someone else then when it would not work in registered mode on his computer due to different ID...So this should not be an issue at all..but just another person trying to get free software or got taken by his friend if he purchased it from his friend.

Ken

Yeah, really the bad guy is the one who sold it. If you look at the for sale thread (the one where butch bought it), it was asked if it was legal and they replied yes it was. He got taken and I can see why he is upset. However, he should have researched it himself. He only saved $10.

Original for sale thread.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=835246

Seems this is a common problem. See this current thread.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=856240

[FlopGun]

My point is people are being characterised as being taken or trying to pull a fast one, when it seems more like a mistake than anything.

I always thought the Clearview licenses were transferable just like the other sims. I can see how it is confusing as the program itself has a transfer feature.

[Helos36]

Yep I agree about it being a mistake...but in your own post as per the License.rtf (even thought it is older version), you posted that it is not transferable, so how can people assume it is? It's just a question as to who reads the EULA's and license agreements nowadays....I know that G3 and G4 is transferable..but again they are very high cost for the average person...after all we are only talking about $40.00 here..AND I do understand that to some $40.00 is alot of money..but it isn't compared to the amount of times you have not crashed because you had a program to learn with...Let's not beat this to death...I am only contributing to it..so I will shush

Ken

[macr0t0r]

Aaaaaaaaaanyways! ;)

One issue I've been seeing in this thread is hosting grass-roots models and scenery. The Clearview homepage has a few links to the more dedicated users, but there really isn't a centralized repository for someone to search or submit a model or scenery to. It seems I end up searching this thread or googling for some of the more uncommon creations.

Has anyone taken a look at the new Google Sites? I hear it is a collaborative web-page system of some sort. It would be nice if we could use the service to centralize the models and take a load off of Stefan's server.

- Jim

[Starcraft-ix]

Wow, a lot on anger on this subject. I was the one that sold the license, but I didn't do it to try and screw anyone as has been suggested. I had no idea it wasn't legal since I had seen several licenses for clearview sold here on rcgroups. I only sold it because my cable went bad and I didn't want to mess with trying to buy another one.

Still, I'll give the guy a refund. I'm assuming Stefan will allow the license to work on my computer.

Stefan - this would probably warrant a FAQ on your site since the EULA is not usually something that people read

[Helos36]

There is plenty of models here:

http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&groupid=291233&ck=

I encourage anyone who has made and or modified any models to send them to me and I will host it....although some like to host them on their own websites....which is great

Ken

[skirtz]

Wow, a lot on anger on this subject. I was the one that sold the license, but I didn't do it to try and screw anyone as has been suggested. I had no idea it wasn't legal since I had seen several licenses for clearview sold here on rcgroups. I only sold it because my cable went bad and I didn't want to mess with trying to buy another one.

Still, I'll give the guy a refund. I'm assuming Stefan will allow the license to work on my computer.

Stefan - this would probably warrant a FAQ on your site since the EULA is not usually something that people read.

Great, this closes this sad story. I have reset your account so you can use it again. Many programs can't be resold because the customer purchases a license (a right) to USE the program at terms defined in the license and not the actual program itself. It is very much like going to a movie, one buys a ticket to see the movie and not the actual movie itself. I hope you understand that I can't offer lifetime support and upgrades to people who never purchased the program from me, and have not contributed to the development and support cost of that product. Regarding the FAQ, the license terms belongs to the license. If any doubt, the license is the only place to check.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[FlopGun]

Stefan, consider adding something to the FAQ and transfer feature that explains that you can't transfer to another person.

That way this won't come up again.

[Starcraft-ix]

Thanks Stefan - I appreciate the goodwill

[butch4u]

Wow, a lot on anger on this subject. I was the one that sold the license, but I didn't do it to try and screw anyone as has been suggested. I had no idea it wasn't legal since I had seen several licenses for clearview sold here on rcgroups. I only sold it because my cable went bad and I didn't want to mess with trying to buy another one.

Still, I'll give the guy a refund. I'm assuming Stefan will allow the license to work on my computer.

Stefan - this would probably warrant a FAQ on your site since the EULA is not usually something that people read

DAVE REFUNDED MY PAYMENT, i DIDN'T ASK HIM TO DO IT HE'S OBVIOUSLY A REALY GREAT GROUP MEMBER. THANKS AGAIN. DAN :D

[helo36]

Way to go Dan...I commend you for your honesty....butch4u- glad it all ended gracefully....a little understanding and patience will go along way!!!

Ken

[butch4u]

Way to go Dan...I commend you for your honesty....butch4u- glad it all ended gracefully....a little understanding and patience will go along way!!!

Ken
Alls well that ends well,Thanks Dan

[Turtle_Flyer]

And now back to CV talk....I notice that V 4.95 is out. Is it just Bug Fixes?

[heli46]

Dan you did right
good guy

[dmulligan]

Is there a timer feature in CV? Similar to what some TX's do. I'd like to know how long I've been flying, with throttle up, for the current session plus per model.

Thanks,
David

[TerryE]

Stefan;

Just downloaded 4.95A. Love the new graphics (reflections), especially on the Pitts and Ultimate!

I was wondering a couple of things:

- Is there (or will there be) dual core support? I am still getting jerky movement. I have a Dual Core 2.5GHz with 2GB of RAM.

- The planes (especially the Ultimate) seem too easy to break - was there a change in the breakability of the models ?

Thanks

Terry

[skirtz]

If you get jerky movement, this is probably because slow video card. It is not related to you having dual core processor. Regarding the model breaking - the truth is, a real model, while will gets damaged and unflyable quite easy, will not break to pieces most of the time. Breaking part in ClearView is just spectacular way to show you the model is broken and unflayable. The speed of impact and the forces to the model breaking parts are measured and break forces are configurable, so you can adjust the models to your liking.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[dmulligan]

Is there (or will there be) dual core support? I am still getting jerky movement. I have a Dual Core 2.5GHz with 2GB of RAM.

Do you have two monitors? I find that if I have dual monitors enabled, even with my GeForce 7800GT video card, I get very jerky performance. If I disable the second monitor the performance becomes stellar. This happens even when I am only using one of the two monitors for CV.

[skirtz]

Do you have two monitors? I find that if I have dual monitors enabled, even with my GeForce 7800GT video card, I get very jerky performance. If I disable the second monitor the performance becomes stellar. This happens even when I am only using one of the two monitors for CV.

I have two monitors - one on the analog connector and the other on the digital connector. ATI 800 XL video card - ClearView is very smooth, can run on each monitor. I can enlarge the ClearView window to show on both monitors for spectacular results - field of view is increased and it gives better immersion feeling.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[Turtle_Flyer]

Stefan,
I run a wimpy graphics card but 4.95 has really made the performance better. Thanks.

[skirtz]

Stefan,
I run a wimpy graphics card but 4.95 has really made the performance better. Thanks.
4.95 comes with a new version of the 3d libraries that are performing better on marginal video cards. I wonder, what is the frame rate improvement if you are able to compare with the old version?

Thanks,
Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[Turtle_Flyer]

The frame rate is close to the same. Earlier versions gave me see through problems or a bleed through. I could see the bottom wing color scheme on the top of the plane wing. Made for problems in orientation when vertical (hovering or high alpha).

Now that is completely gone and the reflections are added which, are a nice touch.

I get a lot of scenery fuzz or waving if I run the parks or other photo type scenery (air fields). But I run at the Hidden Lake and it is fine.

Maybe in future versions you could add some graphic options to conserve resources on older cards. Turn off shadows or other options that eat up G card resources. Smoke really chews it up as you know. So I almost never run with that.

I know I am in the minority with a slow on board video. But I have no choice on the laptop.


4.95 comes with a new version of the 3d libraries that are performing better on marginal video cards. I wonder, what is the frame rate improvement if you are able to compare with the old version?

Thanks,
Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[macr0t0r]

You're not necessarily in the minority. Toning down graphics is a consideration for the Mac/Linux crowd who run this in Parallels/VMWare emulation.

Going to have to download the updated and try it out.

- Jim

[mitchfx]

Stefan,

Where does CV get the info on what planes to display reflections for? I've noticed that some of my custom models have them and others don't. Also, is there a way to have them only partially reflective? My mig and sabre are like chrome mirrors :)

[Turtle_Flyer]

Good point. I forgot about that.

You're not necessarily in the minority. Toning down graphics is a consideration for the Mac/Linux crowd who run this in Parallels/VMWare emulation.

Going to have to download the updated and try it out.

- Jim

[skirtz]

Stefan,

Where does CV get the info on what planes to display reflections for? I've noticed that some of my custom models have them and others don't. Also, is there a way to have them only partially reflective? My mig and sabre are like chrome mirrors :)

You need version 4.95B - load a model, then select "Advanced Settings" and then just click on "Save". Then select "Advanced Settings" again and check for this parameter:
renderFlag 1.0 // set to 0 for non reflective models and to 1 for reflective.

Save the settings and reload the model. It will be now with enviromental reflections. Over time will create provisions to set the amount of reflections and also make the reflection settable per model globally or for specific parts only.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[skirtz]

I have added a new camera mode that manipulates the zoom so it can keep the ground in view most of the time. In addition, when possible, the camera zooms in, so the models look bigger on the screen. To try it, do this:

1. Rename file c:\Program Files\SVKSystems\clearview\bin\clearview.jar to clearviewOld.jar

2. Download and save in c:\Program Files\SVKSystems\clearview\bin\this file:

http://time2rc.com/updates/clearview.jar

3. Start ClearView, select "Settings", then "Camera Setup", then select "Ground In View".

Let me know if you find it usefull, and indeed it there are any problems.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[Turtle_Flyer]

Stefan,

Ground in view is working for me. Thanks. I really missed this feature from other sims.

The only other major feature I see missing is Dual Rate or Triple Rates.

[SnipeD]

I am new to heli RC, I just wanted to point out that CV is no longer $30. I am happy with the program, and support I dont think could be better.

[SnipeD]

The keep ground in veiw is help full but there is distortion to contend with.

[Ohio AV8TOR]

I tried the Ground in View and I can see that it will help some that have ground orientation problems with sims but I have switched back to the normal view because of the blurry background.

[Ohio AV8TOR]

- Another good combo that may be even better:
maxSpeed 28
wingDragCoef 1.0
wingInducedDragCoef 0.07
With this settings the model will glide better.


Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

Stefan on your web page you have a page describing Plane Model Parameter Definitions (http://rcflightsim.com/ClearViewPlaneModelParameterDefinitions.html) but the parameter wingInducedDragCoef is not there. Would you explain the difference between drag and induced drag?

[skirtz]

Parameter desription is old, for flight physics ver. 4, the current plane physics version is 5 (verNum 5 in params.txt). The induced drag is higher for wings with low aspect ratio and lower for wings with high aspect ratio. Models with wings with low inducedDrag coeficient (high aspect ratio wings) will glide better.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[skirtz]

For the ground view - I can lower the max zoom out so there is no distortion, but then the ground may not be in view when the model is high above the horizon. The same with the zoom in - I can lower it but the model will appear smaller and camera will zoom in less. The background will be sharper, but the model will be smaller. I can add two ground in view modes - with low and high max zoom in/out level. Looking for more feedback on the ground in view.
Let me know how do you feel about it.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[Ohio AV8TOR]

Stefan back to the wishlist here is a suggestion for a future release;

I took the cheap way out and picked up a $9 ESky USB radio instead of using a cable for my Spektrum. For the most part I like it but I wish I had dual rates. Is there a way to have keyboard activation for dual rates? Or am I just missing it?

[Turtle_Flyer]

Stefan back to the wishlist here is a suggestion for a future release;

I took the cheap way out and picked up a $9 ESky USB radio instead of using a cable for my Spektrum. For the most part I like it but I wish I had dual rates. Is there a way to have keyboard activation for dual rates? Or am I just missing it?

Keyboard activation would be a must for me too as I have the Esky with no switches or knobs. But, Ohio, I do not think CV has dual rates in any regard yet.

I would like an F key to load models. For example F2 would take you directly to the load plane window where you select a plane. Maybe the key shortcut is there already I just do not see it next to the menu choice?

[handyflyer]

I've got the Parkzone ZX-10 TX and it has a dual rate switch on it. It came with the T-28. I used one of the cables that Stephan recommends. The switch works. It's a real nice feature. Don't know if other TX work the same but try it out. Don

[Turtle_Flyer]

I've got the Parkzone ZX-10 TX and it has a dual rate switch on it. It came with the T-28. I used one of the cables that Stephan recommends. The switch works. It's a real nice feature. Don't know if other TX work the same but try it out. Don

Hmm, do you mean you have dual rates now with the ZX10? If so, I wonder if there is a way to kick them in with the keyboard?

[handyflyer]

yeah, the ZX 10 has dual rates. I have not seen how the keyboard can be used for dual rates. Sorry. Don

[bullwinkle9]

Hi guys; hate to post here, but I cannot get an email to go threw to the clearview website. I have paid for and downloaded clearview but when I attempt to run it, I receive an error message that (path) is not a legal Win32 address. Stefan, any ideas?
Thanks in advance
George

[Helos36]

The fact that you cannot get an email to support or download CV ...makes me think you have an internet issue...who is your provider (ISP) and what kind of service...Dialup, cable, DSL? I think that maybe your download is not completed or corrupted somehow...I just downloaded myself via DSL and it is working fine.

Ken

[skirtz]

Hi guys; hate to post here, but I cannot get an email to go threw to the clearview website. I have paid for and downloaded clearview but when I attempt to run it, I receive an error message that (path) is not a legal Win32 address. Stefan, any ideas?
Thanks in advance
George
Hi George,

I received 4 e-mails from you and responded to each one of them. Check your e-mail or try to contact me from e-mail account that you know it is working. Now, regarding your problem - your download is incomplete - try downloading the program again. The file size is 110 mb. After you save the file in a folder, right click on the file name and check what is the file size - if less than 110 mb, you must download again. Make sure you do not have any connection or browser problems.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[felixthecat264]

I'm new to RC helicopter, recently I bought Esky Honey bee King 2 with 0406A 6 channel transmitter.

And I downloaded Realflight G4 simulation with Dongle Eumlator V3.2. I swap the position of the Dip switches under the battery compartment to turn off the mix signals. The 4 axis: Roll, Pitch, Throttle and Yaw works fine with the Emulator, but I have difficulties assigning IDLE UP, Throttle Hold to the channel and the Emulator doesn't seem to have the function to assign these keys to keyboard. Especially the throttle isn't working, the Heli is completely engine off.

So could anyone help me to solve this problem?

[shizack]

You do know you have downloaded this illegally, right? Besides, this is a forum for Clearview, not RealFlight.

[TerryE]

For those of you using the E-Sky controller (or Dynam controller from DealExtreme) and are flying helis:

The ratchet can be removed and turned over to provide a smooth throttle stick. Just take the six screws off the back, take the little metal ratchet off the throttle stick, turn it upside down and reinstall.

Makes hovering much easier.

Stefan:

Been playing with the ground view. Very nice feature, but the zooming is somewhat distracting. I like your idea of a "partial" groundview. Keep the ground in view until you get over 60 - 70* vertical, then just sky. Would simulate reality better. I like the groundview when fairly low (45* or so) as it gives more of a pheripheral vision impression.

Also noticed when you fly directly overhead, the sim seems to "lose its place" and when it shows the model, the model mayt be in a differant orientation that expected. (EG: Pointed directly at thte ground).

Overall, a great improvement, and a LOT of fun. Thanks

Terry

[Heli Hacker]

I have added a new camera mode that manipulates the zoom so it can keep the ground in view most of the time. In addition, when possible, the camera zooms in, so the models look bigger on the screen. ......... Let me know if you find it usefull, and indeed it there are any problems.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

Stefan,
I really like the ground-in-view mode, but I noticed the same bug that terryE did, where it gets confused if you fly overhead. Sometimes the view ends up facing opposite where the model went. It is also a bit jerky when updating after you fly low "between your legs" (don't try this outside of a sim)


I have version 4.95B prior to updating the jar file.

[skirtz]

Stefan,
I really like the ground-in-view mode, but I noticed the same bug that terryE did, where it gets confused if you fly overhead. Sometimes the view ends up facing opposite where the model went. It is also a bit jerky when updating after you fly low "between your legs" (don't try this outside of a sim)


I have version 4.95B prior to updating the jar file.

I know that the camera have moment of hesitation following the model flying straight overhead or "under your legs" and there is no simple solution. I will say don't do it. Flying real model over your head almost for sure leads to crash due to similar disorientation because it takes a moment for you to rotate your head 180 degrees to start facing the model as it flies away. The same think happens with the camera - it follows the model up to a point (with model going straight at you over your head) and then the camera switches 180 degree to follow the model as it passes above your head. In that switch, there is massive camera movement that is somewhat disorienting. What I am trying to say is that approximatelly the same thing happens in real life and that is why I don't see how this can be avoided.

Stefan
http://rcflightsim.com

[Heli Hacker]

Fair enough.

I do agree with your earlier suggestion that an optional mode with less zooming would be desirable. After using ground-in-view for a while, all the zooming starts to tickle the part of my brain that says "time to empty your stomach contents now.."