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Miraj
Oct 16, 2006, 11:32 PM
Can someone confirm Aquila fuselage from the very old airtronics kit is the same length/width as the XL/Grande.
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MrKie
Oct 17, 2006, 03:20 PM
The same for the Grande but the XL is way bigger
Miraj
Oct 17, 2006, 07:01 PM
Thanks for the reply.
I have plans for the original airtronics aquila and plans for the grande, i'd like to go for the XL (need a big..big.. thermaller) i can increase the size of the plans and make the correct modifications for it. Have you any info on what the specs for the XL?
Cheers
Esprit2
Oct 17, 2006, 09:57 PM
Have you any info on what the specs for the XL?
Cheers
The Aquila XL is a lot of plane to scratch build. Be patient and Aerosphere will get around to kitting it.
I stood the XL's naked fuselage on it's nose and leaned it against the wall, then measured the tallest point. That's the top of the backward leaning rudder hinge post... = 57.25". 3.5" wide at the wing mount. The kit fuselage was fiberglass. It looks exactly like the Aquila/ Aquila Grande' fuselage if you ignore the size, so you should be able to use the Zoom control on the copier to blow your Aquila plans up to that size.
Airtronics Aquila XL
by Lee Renaud, Feb 22, 1976 - 50 kit run.
Nostalgia / RES legal
150 Inch Span, Overall
3.50 Inch Fuselage Width at Wing Mount
31.00 Inch Span, Tip Panel, Flat
43.18 Inch Span, Inner Panel, Flat
12.06 Inch Chord, Root
7.75 Inch Chord, Tip
11.07 Inch Chord, Average
13.55 : 1 Aspect Ratio
1660 Sq In Wing Area, Flat (1675 by my math)
57.25 Inch Fuselage Length (fiberglass shell only)
61.75 Inch Fuselage Length (complete with rudder attached)
100 Oz Flying Weight, low end
8.67 Oz/Sq Ft Wing loading
112 Oz Flying Weight, high
9.72 Oz/Sq Ft Wing loading
Dihedral - With one inner wing panel held flat to the table, measure the dihedral under the tip and adjoining inner panel:
Tip 4 inch / 7.5 degrees
Inner 3 inch / 8.0 degrees (Total. In flight attitude, that would be 1.5"/ 4 degrees per side)
Dihedral - Balanced in level flight attitude:
Tip 11.5 degrees per side
Inner 4.0 degrees per side
Regards,
Tim
ronrange
Oct 17, 2006, 10:09 PM
I have a F/G fuse for the Aquila XL for sale, if interested. $95 plus shipping from 35803. The plans for the XL are 150 percent of the Aquila.
I may have a portion of them on CAD but will have to make a search if interested. File free.
Thanks
Ron
Miraj
Oct 17, 2006, 10:44 PM
Tim
Thanks for the info, since i'm in Oz it would be easier to scratch her. I'd be too worried about the handling on the shipping, something would get broken for sure.
Ron
150% that shouldnt be too hard to do, i have electronic Grande plans somewhere as well. Shaping and glassing from the plan shouldnt be that hard if i wanted to venture down that road as well.
Yes on the CAD stuff if you have it, dont go to too much trouble though.
Thanks for the info guys.
M
2motheus
Oct 18, 2006, 11:15 AM
Hello,
Can any of you guys get me the airfoil shape for the Aquila Grande?
I have an original Aquila kit and I'd like to add the lower sheeting and make the airfoil semi-symmetrical rather than flat-bottomed.
Thanks,
Tim
MrKie
Oct 18, 2006, 02:50 PM
Here Is The Ribs For The Aquila Grande
2motheus
Oct 18, 2006, 03:06 PM
Here Is The Ribs For The Aquila Grande
Thanks! This should work for my purposes.
skipinhouston
Oct 18, 2006, 07:56 PM
The last Aquila XL I saw fly was in 1983 in Dallas at the TNT contest. It looked like a freaking balsa wood overcast flying over head and when it landed, the closer it got, the more it looked like a freight train coming at me. You had to force it on the ground.
Have fun.
SkipinHouston
MrKie
Oct 18, 2006, 08:22 PM
Here is the tip ribs
Miraj
Oct 18, 2006, 10:38 PM
I've found a company that will enlarge the original Airtronics Aquila plans to 150%. Across the road from work which is great.
So with that, i'm collecting all the info on the modifications found here on rcg, a few other dwg files (thanks to the guys online) and it should hopfully work out nicely.
So at this stage, carbon spar system, or carbon capped spruce, webbed between. Extended rudder, 150" to 160" wing extension(extended main panel), extended spoiler, glass/kevlar fuselage (lost foam fuselage method), bottom sheeted main panels and beefed up root section on the main panels, alot of wing attaching to the fuse.
you are going to ask why 160", probably the answer is 'cause i can' lol. Just like huge timber birds.
Now its off to find the original plans in my mess.
M
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