Flight Competition

[Joshb86]

I all the sudden got this really cool idea. I always hate how i can never goto or enter the flight compititions that come around because of work or something else. My idea is we host a compitition once a week on rc groups. For example we start holding a 3d flight compitition once a week and have a poll to allow viewers to vote for the contestants. What you do is practice a routine in your favorite rc flight sim... then record your flight with fraps or another type of game play recorder. (or use the built in one...if your sim has it). When your pleased with your routine upload(youtube or somewhere simular) it no later then friday and let the votes carry over till sunday. Then the pilot with the most votes wins. Now what you win for now is just the fact that you can brag about beating everyone else. What do you guys think??? I'd love to have a challenge like this.

[jon8889]

id like live competitions too- but no one apparently knows whats up with my computer after a new graphics card update with g3 :-(



:-( :-(

[Joshb86]

I'll be useing FMS myself. I have G3 also but i prefer some of the planes people create in FMS. Some of them just have a more realistic feel. There is a handful of great planes for FMS that are configured extremely well.

[Joshb86]

Also Jon.... All the prices you got for a gfx card to run G3....those are way off. I'm a programmer and also build computers. You can get an connect3D(ATI) x800 256mb Gddr3 gfx card for $88 with 12 pixel pipelines. It's also a PCI-E(PCI express). I use this card and can run oblivion on highest settings along with G3 on a seperate monitor. Check newegg for it

[3D-flyer-93]

I have 100 planes in my FMS models folder

[Travis22304]

I really like this idea...once my sim gets here (FSOne) I will be sure to start recording! :D

[Joshb86]

Great!! Still need to draw some more people. I figured a forum of RC plane nuts would be all over this idea..... i guess not. I can't see it not being a successful idea once it gets going. Any ideas for rules or anything are welcome to be said. Please share any ideas with us. Can't wait for the first week of compitition!

[3D-flyer-93]

no engine over 50cc.

[Joshb86]

lol ok 3D-flyer-93. Also the flight time has to be no less then 45seconds long. No 15 second whirls and then back to earth.

[Joshb86]

Here i am practicing....i may have a video up soon.

[Travis22304]

I also wonder why people aren't "all over" this idea. It sounds great!

[3D-flyer-93]

how can I take videos on FMS?

[Joshb86]

There are a load of recorders on the net. Such as fraps. Google it and you'll get alot of results. Some work better then others.... just find the one you like the best.

[3D-flyer-93]

which one do you use?

[Joshb86]

Fraps

[Ryan Archer]

ok, i'm in, what's the prize for the winners?
because it has got to be worth my time.
RyAn

[Joshb86]

Ryan for now it will just be for fun and the joy of the hobby. If it gets big enough which i can't see it not once people get going on it.... then im sure we will gather up prizes

[Joshb86]

Well guys. I found a new game recorder that i like ALOT better then fraps. It's called zd game recorder(www.zdsoft.com). Here's a little sample video :) excuse the flying...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D06joPsvBA

[Travis22304]

Fraps is the best by far... http://www2.fraps.com/FRAPS274.EXE There you go!

[Joshb86]

I've used fraps. I didn't like it....it wouldn't even work half the time. I was looking at that FS One....Man i want it.

[jholen]

What about fraps did you not like? Fraps in my opinion is hands down the best screenshot/movie app that I've used. Been using it for as long as I can remember.

[nathanrcman]

I think fraps is great too. im up for the comp. i dont think prizes are needed right now. what ever happened to the FUN of this hobby? sure prizes are good, just a bonus :D later on....

so when officially are we doing this. will be using G3. and by the end of the month G3.5! :)

let me know

Nathan

[Joshb86]

Awesome nathanrcman. So far we have me you travis and ryan. I don't think travis has a sim to work with right now....do you travis? If he did then that would be 4 people. We could start the first week's comp if we have atleast 4....but we need some more attention for voters. Think we could get a sticky for this thread? Then when the poll goes up we will have enough people knowing....hey i wanna see how good they are and then vote.

[Joshb86]

Another rule to keep things in control and fair... The week ends at 6:00pm on friday's. You have untill midnight on friday to post the link to your video. Do not post your video before 6:00pm. Shortly after midnight the poll will go up with each pilot and his video. From there viewers can watch the flights and then vote. Votes will go on untill 6:00pm sunday. At that time the pilot with the most votes wins. Sound good to you guys?

PS: Think we could get a sticky on this thread?

[nathanrcman]

Sounds good.
Maby a suggestion..video sizes have to be under 30meg for the people not with broadband?? and maby the winner gets a screenshot of them flying, has a trophy pic on it or something and goes down in the virtual fame eg.1st 2nd 3rd places etc in a list at the top of page one?

[3D-flyer-93]

Iwanna judge :D

[Joshb86]

Great! I'll be leaving saturday for my honeymoon and wont be back till mid next week. Maybe we will have some more contestants when i get back.

[nathanrcman]

Congratulations Josh ^^^ :D

[Joshb86]

Thanks :). Im in the process of paying for a honeymoon, building/selling computers, buying planes, and waiting for a ps3. If anyone needs a computer.... tell me what your looking for and i bet i can beat prices by a long shot. Give me an estimate of the power/specs and i'll be able to price ya one.

[3D-flyer-93]

can I judge?

[Joshb86]

sure ya can. Everyone that views the forum will be able to judge. What we will do is start a poll and have an option to vote for the pilot of choice

[3D-flyer-93]

Sweet :d

[Travis22304]

No, I don't have a sim right now, though my sim (FS One) will be shipped out sometime next week...so it will arrive here in about another week 1/2....hopefully...oh, Josh, what kind of PC's are you selling? I am probably not going to be able to purchase one yet as I am only 14 years of age...just curious...I was looking for something along the lines of...
• 2-3 Ghz Processor
• 1-2 GB RAM
• nVidia GeForce 6000 class graphics card pre-installed...(preferably the 6600GT)
• high-front bus speed
something like that...to run the FS One...the computer I am on now can run the FS One, but it only meets the minimum system requirements.

[Joshb86]

I build game machines. Usually i use custom cases that light up and look at neat. I can actually provide those for a good price if the customer wants one. Or i can stick with the basic case. I'm mainly an AMD builder. Reason being is it's a higher demand by gamers and more bang for the buck. However the new intel's are very nice... I'll price you a build and post it in a couple of hours.

[Joshb86]

Ok travis. This is a start layout. And yes you can change or customize anything you wish and i'll adjust the price. This is a budget machine with plenty of kick to play even games like oblivion or fear. ...

1: Motherboard is an AMD socket 754 compatible with PCI-Express x16 slot - Elitegroup

2: Processor is AMD sempron 64 3400 at 2.4ghz(equal to 3.4ghz intel)

3: RAM is 1gb AMPO DDR PC3200 speed.

4: Video card is a powercolor x800 gto 256mb Gddr3 (ATI Chipset)
this card has gddr3 and is a very good card.

5: Hard Drive is Samsung 160gb 7200 rpm

6: Disc drive is a MadDog DVD r / DVD r-w / cd r / cd r-w / dvd-cd

7: Simple grey ATX case

The price on this build is around 370 without the shipping on the parts. The parts shiping to me will be about $23.... then all you add is the labor which i'll give you a good deal on.... and the shipping to you. I actually have a setup like this i use often. I'm running that video card into my flat hdtv so i got a nice big nice looking monitor lol. Runs oblivion on max settings and boy does it look beautiful.

[Ryan Archer]

wow! that is a very good price!
do you sell laptops to?
i am looking to buy a laptop.
ryan

[Joshb86]

Sorry ryan. Laptop's are still to integegrated to custom build. It wont be long though.... laot of them are starting to have more swapable attributes.

[Travis22304]

Whoa!!! Only $392.00!?!?!? (excluding labor) I'll keep saving my money!!! I have just over $200 something from chore money saved over the years...hehe...when the time comes, I'll shoot you a PM or something!

PS. Do you sell just the Graphics Cards themselves? It would have to be AGP up to 8X...if you could find me a good deal on the 6600GT I would definately purchase it! Thank you!

[Travis22304]

They eventually should turn this flight competition into an actual even hosted by a major brand or something, that actaully gives away prizes for the best flyers in specified age groups...That would be amazing...having a professional flight simulator comptetition....with different age groups, that gave away prizes...sorry to repeat myself, it is just if anyone willing to host such an event is "listening!"

[Joshb86]

You referring to the nividia 6600 GT 128mb AGP?

[jholen]

For graphics cards I would suggest looking into a 6800GS if you are willing to spend what it costs to get a 6600GT. Just my opinion though :)

[Travis22304]

Yeah I was referring to the nVidia GeForce 6600GT 128MB AGP, so, the 6800GS is the same price then? Because I can get the 6600GT for $120.00. Is the 6800GS cheaper? Does it deliver better performance?

[Joshb86]

Well for a brand new card. He meant if you are willing to spend 120 then why not spend alittle more on a better one. A 6800 gs will cost more. Just incase you didn't know.... The computer i priced has a PCI-express gfx card. For those that don't know..... AGP was the standard over the regular pci slot for video. It stands for Accelerated Graphics port. max is x8. PCI-express is x16.... twice as fast. It might be wise to do a mother board upgrade and then get a pci-express video card. It's up to you.... but if you want i can price you a mobo + gfx card combo

[Joshb86]

I'll need to know what kind of cpu you have so i can determine what socket the mother board is. For an estimate..... For alittle more then what you found the 6600 gt for... I could have you a nice mother board and a pci-express graphics card running about 256mb gddr3. Just post the name of your processor and the type of ram your computer has. If i don't reply soon then it's because i left for my honeymoon. I'll try and get online while im gone.....if not then i'll be back thursday.

[Rat]

I'll be useing FMS myself. I have G3 also but i prefer some of the planes people create in FMS. Some of them just have a more realistic feel. There is a handful of great planes for FMS that are configured extremely well.



Funny, I have tried 100s of planes that were created fro FMS and I can nto find one that even flys close to the real thing. Flight physics are way off on most anything in FMS.

Try some of the downloaded aircraft for G3 on the knifeedge.com site. There are some insanely correct aircraft there. Even the stock 3D yak in G3 is far more realistic then anything I have downloaded for FMS.

So using FMS for a 3d type online competition would nto be my choice. My daughter can do 3D type stuff on FMS.

[Travis22304]

I have an AMD athlon XP 2400+... and 512MB of RAM...The exact model that I have is the eMachines T2341...

[Joshb86]

Hmm.... That means your mother board will be a socket 462 so a mobo(with pci-e) / gfx upgrade won't work. I dont recall there being pci-e support on that socket board. It may be best to just do a ram and gfx upgrade for now.

[Joshb86]

by the way....im back! Honeymoon was great....besides no net for 5 days is pure hell!

[Joshb86]

So who all is ready for the first week of compitition?!?!

[3D-flyer-93]

ME!........The judge :D

[Travis22304]

I am! My sim got here yesterday! ^.^

[3D-flyer-93]

Do you like it?

[Joshb86]

Yeah how is FS One? I hear mainly that it has some issues?

[Joshb86]

3D Flyer.... I notice your spreading the word about the competition. Great work!

[Rat]

Well if Archer is entering then I will stay away. Good luck.

[Joshb86]

??? Im confused by that last post.

[Rat]

Ryan the Kid Archer????? Have you seen some of this guys 3D vids?????

So a search on here, rcuniverse and knifeedge.com forums for some of his 3D vids for G3.

[Joshb86]

Ah cool. I'll do that. You might come in second????? lol it would still be fun.

[nathanrcman]

Im ready! so whats first,scale, aerobatic? any set routine or freestyle/? how long must flight be.

Nathan

[Joshb86]

i think we will mainly be doing aerobatic nathan. Just make a pretty routine your happy with and make it atleast 45seconds. And welcome to the competition!

[3D-flyer-93]

when does it start?

[Joshb86]

lets see how many people we have... I think we can go on and start this week or wait one more to see if we can get a few more people. What do you guys think?

[3D-flyer-93]

wait one more week

[Joshb86]

yeah i agree. That way we can draw some more pilots. Should help since you posted the topic link in other forums. Thanks again for that :)

[Ryan Archer]

LOL


Ryan the Kid Archer????? Have you seen some of this guys 3D vids?????

So a search on here, rcuniverse and knifeedge.com forums for some of his 3D vids for G3.

i didn't get were i am withought practice tho.
ryan

[Travis22304]

^.^ Yeah, I saw a video of you in an online session of G3, all I can say is, wow...

[Joshb86]

I havent had the time to go check those vids out yet...im very interested though. Sounds like we already got a top gun in the comp!

[3D-flyer-93]

maybe try to post the link the the flight comp on rcuniverse, team flyingcirkus, radio controlzone.

[Joshb86]

good idea. This thing is going to get huge thanks to you

[3D-flyer-93]

OK, I posted it on all those forums.

[Joshb86]

Good Job.



PILOTS WANTED.....if you would like to be in this compitition then post a messing in this topic.

[Travis22304]

Count me in! ^.^

[3D-flyer-93]

I wanna judge

[Joshb86]

I'm in if you couldn't guess. I'll be using fms until my G3 replacment cd's get here.

[jbourke]

If someone wants to organize the rules and the judging we can create a "Special Event" forum for this contest. Just shoot me a PM when you guys are ready.

Jim

[3D-flyer-93]

can I judge?

[Travis22304]

Sure, but I'm not in charge, haven't you asked that several times already? ^.^ Anyway, my video is ready, now it's my first attempt at 3D flight, it was the "Fight Training" that the FS One offers that allowed me to pull off what I think was "3D Flight..." ^.^ Tell me when I should post it! It is approximately 20MB, at 1:25 long.

edit: PS, this is also my first attempt at editing, I added a little music and had to edit the film because I was using the FRAPS demo. ^.^ Enjoy!

[3D-flyer-93]

Can you post it in the video section? I want to see it.

[Travis22304]

Has the contest started? Ok, I'll post it, it's not that great though, I am a kid, like Ryan Archer, but maybe a little older... (14 years old) so go easy on me! ^.^

edit: Where do I post the video? I mean, under the video section, airplanes, helis, what?

[3D-flyer-93]

planes, And no it hasn't started already. I just want to see it. and i'm 13.

[Travis22304]

^.^ Cool!

[Joshb86]

I just sent Jim(admin) the pm with the information. Jim if your reading this..... when we get the special event forum can we use it to draw pilots for a week maybe? Advertise the contest starting 2 weeks away and allow more people to see it. If we could do that it would be great.... Thanks

[Ryan Archer]

I'm ready to take you guys on.
shall we make a rule that it cannot be over 4 minutes, well the flying portion anyways.
ryan

I'm in for sure.

[Joshb86]

When i sent jim the rules i actually added no more then 5min flights....that fine? 45secs - 5mins

[3D-flyer-93]

I judge :D

[Joshb86]

3d-flyer-93.... the way the votes work everyone will be a judge. It will be a poll just like you see usually on the forum.... But...you could be a reviewer and put in your final thoughts of the weeks flights?

[3D-flyer-93]

Works for me :D Is there a link to the place were the poll will be held?

[Ryan Archer]

there should be a team foamy class.
were two people fly together and do an aeromusical.
ryan

i can do a demo of this if it's needed.
or maybe just a foamy class.

[Joshb86]

Once it gets started and we get down an organized compitition....then im sure we will have tons of people intrested. Eventually i can see us having teams etc etc.

[AirNerd]

Hello guys...I'm in :D

[Joshb86]

Great we got another! Welcome AirNerd

[AirNerd]

Thanks

Hi...I have always wanted to record my simming, I downloaded fraps amoment ago...when I hit record my sim slowed way down so I still need to see if there is something I can do about that, before I buy the software.

Any Ideas?

I will get some clips up on Putfile as i have an existing account there.

[Joshb86]

Whats your computer specs?

[AirNerd]

Compaq Presario

Athalon 64 (around 3Ghtz)

1 Gig of ram 250 hard drive

Radeon X700PRO 256mb vid card

what else ya need to know?

[AirNerd]

1280*1024@60htz

[Joshb86]

Hmm....you shouldn't have trouble running it then. I had the same problem with fraps on one of my machines....so i used zd soft on it. It actually worked alot better. If it still drags in zd soft....then change the frames fer second rate. I think default is 35, but it does great as low as 20

[Joshb86]

Still no word from jim on the PM. Maybe he's busy... i'll drop him another message.

[3D-flyer-93]

PLEASE HELP! http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=587613

[Joshb86]

Well still havent heard anything from jim. Lets go ahead and start things off and then we will get the special event added later. Lets start by everyone introducing themselves and telling us what sim they will be using....and maybe a preferred plane....


I'm Josh... I'll be using G3 and FMS

[Joshb86]

Ok.... it's time to bump this thread back to the top because i think the guys that were ready to enter forgot.... Anyways everyone that wants to be in the first weeks competition then state your name and the sim you will be using. Also if you'd like a plane.

Mines changed..... I'm still josh, however i'll be using aerofly pro deluxe.

I'll be flying an airfoilz yak54