Oops...

[DanTXD]

I now own a modded RB323 powered Revo as well... My bad. £170 I couldn't
say no. Full RPM arms all round, load of spares, alloy where it counts...
Pics will be here tmrw after it's first run!


--
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[\Doc\]

"DanTXD" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>I now own a modded RB323 powered Revo as well... My bad. £170 I couldn't
>say no. Full RPM arms all round, load of spares, alloy where it counts...
>Pics will be here tmrw after it's first run!
>
>
> --
> Dan - on his PC

Your trip to the dark side of the hobby is now complete. Your Traxxas
products now outnumber your HPI ones. Tis' a sad, sad day!

Doc

[DanTXD]

""Doc"" <hmmmm@nahhhh.net> wrote in message
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>
> "DanTXD" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:4o8ds3Fde7iaU1@individual.net...
>>I now own a modded RB323 powered Revo as well... My bad. £170 I couldn't
>>say no. Full RPM arms all round, load of spares, alloy where it counts...
>>Pics will be here tmrw after it's first run!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dan - on his PC
>
> Your trip to the dark side of the hobby is now complete. Your Traxxas
> products now outnumber your HPI ones. Tis' a sad, sad day!
>
> Doc

Well, technically, that's not quite true as I have a complete Sav roller as
well :-) Although I accept it's not a runner, so that doesn't really count
heh. The stock Revo is going soon - the RB powered Revo is INSANE...

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[Richard]

""Doc"" <hmmmm@nahhhh.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Your trip to the dark side of the hobby is now complete. Your Traxxas
> products now outnumber your HPI ones. Tis' a sad, sad day!
>
> Doc
>

I think its good to see someone that has always been a fan of one make
expand his horizons. Seeing a few of his other posts is a good example of
what he was missing out on with the HPI.


Cheers

[DanTXD]

"Richard" <DK@Hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> ""Doc"" <hmmmm@nahhhh.net> wrote in message
> news:87OdnW6TOdMza4LYnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>>
>>
>> Your trip to the dark side of the hobby is now complete. Your Traxxas
>> products now outnumber your HPI ones. Tis' a sad, sad day!
>>
>> Doc
>>
>
> I think its good to see someone that has always been a fan of one make
> expand his horizons. Seeing a few of his other posts is a good example of
> what he was missing out on with the HPI.
>

To be fair, I still can't fault the Savage - it's never really broken
properly. I just fancied a change I think :-)

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[Richard]

"DanTXD" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "Richard" <DK@Hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:45209cef$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> >
> > ""Doc"" <hmmmm@nahhhh.net> wrote in message
> > news:87OdnW6TOdMza4LYnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> Your trip to the dark side of the hobby is now complete. Your Traxxas
> >> products now outnumber your HPI ones. Tis' a sad, sad day!
> >>
> >> Doc
> >>
> >
> > I think its good to see someone that has always been a fan of one make
> > expand his horizons. Seeing a few of his other posts is a good example
of
> > what he was missing out on with the HPI.
> >
>
>
> I just fancied a change I think :-)
>
> --
> Dan - on his PC
>

A change can sometimes be a good thing. As long as your having fun. That's
what the various RC hobbies are about, Having Fun!

That's also why I decided to get a RC helicopter recently because I wanted
to learn a new discipline and it really is a huge change going from planes
and trucks that you can almost go full stick with in any direction. Do the
same with a heli and your up for a expensive fix.

I want a Picoo Z but no one sells them in Australia yet. I'm trying to get
my brother or nephew to send me 10 but they aren't answering their emails.
They are a awesome heli, about the size of your hand and sell at Radio Shack
for 30 bucks. Sorta like the Bit CharG of the helicopter world.

Cheers

[DanTXD]

"DanTXD" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:4o8ds3Fde7iaU1@individual.net...
>I now own a modded RB323 powered Revo as well... My bad. £170 I couldn't
>say no. Full RPM arms all round, load of spares, alloy where it counts...
>Pics will be here tmrw after it's first run!
>
>

Given her a good going over - here is the spec as follows...

RB TM323 engine
Blue RPM arms all round, upper and lower.
7075 red alloy push rods
7075 red alloy toe links on the rear
Forward only conversion
3 racing alloy servo guards
Carbon throttle servo mount
New Era steel roll bar
Black proline rock pleaser body shell
titanium hinge pins
Blue alloy shock ends

It BADLY needs some gripper tyres hehe :-)

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[M78Ultra]

After looking and reading rave reviews about them and how they are going to
be the HOT item for Christmas..Me and my RC bud thought we would go find a
couple today before they were all gone.
The first run of Picco Z Mini Helis through Radio Shack was $29.99...they
have since now went up to $39.99. (Something sells good..squeeze another $10
out of it....cause they come prepriced at $29.99 and the employees have to
remove the stickers from the box.)
Me and a friend of mine went searching today and found a couple with the old
price tag.. They rang up $39.99 and had to adjust the price for the
sticker...
My friend bought the first one and after looking at it had noticed the
manufacturers had dropped a glob of solder on the main prop..
so we go and exchange it for another...and I buy 1 also.
He charges his up and it fairs just OK for the first battery with some trim
adjustment (no nose weight)..
(I hadn't even opened mine yet as I was watching his to see if indeed I was
going to keep mine.)
Added just 1 of the 3 little nose weights provided for forward motion, on
the second battery charge, on his and the thing wont even lift off the floor
and just spins and wont hold the trim adjustments.
Yes, we followed the instructions to a tee.
We proceeded immediately to get refunds...
They are simply too cheap to last anytime. Looking closely at it, the main
props support guide bar/main gear is simply held stationary with the foam
body, so when and if (and you will) bump the blades..even though the blades
are flexible it will round out the support (the foam) for the blades support
rendering it useless. Give it another year, and there should be some quality
low budget mini helis available.



"Richard" <DK@Hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
news:4520fdc0$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> A change can sometimes be a good thing. As long as your having fun.
That's
> what the various RC hobbies are about, Having Fun!
>
> That's also why I decided to get a RC helicopter recently because I wanted
> to learn a new discipline and it really is a huge change going from planes
> and trucks that you can almost go full stick with in any direction. Do
the
> same with a heli and your up for a expensive fix.
>
> I want a Picoo Z but no one sells them in Australia yet. I'm trying to
get
> my brother or nephew to send me 10 but they aren't answering their emails.
> They are a awesome heli, about the size of your hand and sell at Radio
Shack
> for 30 bucks. Sorta like the Bit CharG of the helicopter world.
>
> Cheers
>
>

[Richard]

"M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Hb_Vg.2045$gL.672@southeast.rr.com...
>
> After looking and reading rave reviews about them and how they are going
to
> be the HOT item for Christmas..Me and my RC bud thought we would go find a
> couple today before they were all gone.
> The first run of Picco Z Mini Helis through Radio Shack was $29.99...they
> have since now went up to $39.99. (Something sells good..squeeze another
$10
> out of it....cause they come prepriced at $29.99 and the employees have to
> remove the stickers from the box.)
> Me and a friend of mine went searching today and found a couple with the
old
> price tag.. They rang up $39.99 and had to adjust the price for the
> sticker...
> My friend bought the first one and after looking at it had noticed the
> manufacturers had dropped a glob of solder on the main prop..
> so we go and exchange it for another...and I buy 1 also.
> He charges his up and it fairs just OK for the first battery with some
trim
> adjustment (no nose weight)..
> (I hadn't even opened mine yet as I was watching his to see if indeed I
was
> going to keep mine.)
> Added just 1 of the 3 little nose weights provided for forward motion, on
> the second battery charge, on his and the thing wont even lift off the
floor
> and just spins and wont hold the trim adjustments.
> Yes, we followed the instructions to a tee.
> We proceeded immediately to get refunds...
> They are simply too cheap to last anytime. Looking closely at it, the main
> props support guide bar/main gear is simply held stationary with the foam
> body, so when and if (and you will) bump the blades..even though the
blades
> are flexible it will round out the support (the foam) for the blades
support
> rendering it useless. Give it another year, and there should be some
quality
> low budget mini helis available.
>

Yeah, I have read many reviews about them and 99% of them say its just a
fantastic plastic toy. Most also say they need a little attention prior to
flying like the weights in the nose and a little silicon lube here and
there. They are just a gimmick toy like the Bit Char-G was/is but just like
the Char-G I just thought it might be fun to have one. It may just end up
like my Char-G and still be in the box and sitting on the shelf untouched
after 3 years.

If you had cheap batteries or rechargeable in the controller that could have
been the problem with the other flight. The battery in them come with a
fairly decent charge in them from the factory, so they usually get their
best flight with the first charge unless you charge the battery with a
proper Li-Po charger. Rechargeable batteries are a definite no-no in the
controller because they need the voltage to get a proper charge. They are
very power hungry on the charger built in to the controller because of the
3.7v Li-Po battery and they also need a fairly long time to cool down
between runs. The other problem with the Li-Po battery is that people just
run them flat like they do with NiCd's which is not a good thing.

I want to see what happens when people decide that one or two charges is not
good enough and the world has another Dell Laptop problem happening with the
Picoo Z. :-)


Cheers

[M78Ultra]

"Richard" <DK@Hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Hb_Vg.2045$gL.672@southeast.rr.com...
> >
> > After looking and reading rave reviews about them and how they are going
> to
> > be the HOT item for Christmas..Me and my RC bud thought we would go find
a
> > couple today before they were all gone.
> > The first run of Picco Z Mini Helis through Radio Shack was
$29.99...they
> > have since now went up to $39.99. (Something sells good..squeeze another
> $10
> > out of it....cause they come prepriced at $29.99 and the employees have
to
> > remove the stickers from the box.)
> > Me and a friend of mine went searching today and found a couple with the
> old
> > price tag.. They rang up $39.99 and had to adjust the price for the
> > sticker...
> > My friend bought the first one and after looking at it had noticed the
> > manufacturers had dropped a glob of solder on the main prop..
> > so we go and exchange it for another...and I buy 1 also.
> > He charges his up and it fairs just OK for the first battery with some
> trim
> > adjustment (no nose weight)..
> > (I hadn't even opened mine yet as I was watching his to see if indeed I
> was
> > going to keep mine.)
> > Added just 1 of the 3 little nose weights provided for forward motion,
on
> > the second battery charge, on his and the thing wont even lift off the
> floor
> > and just spins and wont hold the trim adjustments.
> > Yes, we followed the instructions to a tee.
> > We proceeded immediately to get refunds...
> > They are simply too cheap to last anytime. Looking closely at it, the
main
> > props support guide bar/main gear is simply held stationary with the
foam
> > body, so when and if (and you will) bump the blades..even though the
> blades
> > are flexible it will round out the support (the foam) for the blades
> support
> > rendering it useless. Give it another year, and there should be some
> quality
> > low budget mini helis available.
> >
>
> Yeah, I have read many reviews about them and 99% of them say its just a
> fantastic plastic toy. Most also say they need a little attention prior
to
> flying like the weights in the nose and a little silicon lube here and
> there. They are just a gimmick toy like the Bit Char-G was/is but just
like
> the Char-G I just thought it might be fun to have one. It may just end up
> like my Char-G and still be in the box and sitting on the shelf untouched
> after 3 years.
>
> If you had cheap batteries or rechargeable in the controller that could
have
> been the problem with the other flight. The battery in them come with a
> fairly decent charge in them from the factory, so they usually get their
> best flight with the first charge unless you charge the battery with a
> proper Li-Po charger. Rechargeable batteries are a definite no-no in the
> controller because they need the voltage to get a proper charge. They are
> very power hungry on the charger built in to the controller because of the
> 3.7v Li-Po battery and they also need a fairly long time to cool down
> between runs. The other problem with the Li-Po battery is that people
just
> run them flat like they do with NiCd's which is not a good thing.
>
> I want to see what happens when people decide that one or two charges is
not
> good enough and the world has another Dell Laptop problem happening with
the
> Picoo Z. :-)
>
>
> Cheers
>

Yes , the first initial charge only took about 10 minutes, as opposed to the
30 minutes of the second charge.
The battery was not run down flat (props would still turn,but no where
enough to lift it up)
The LiPo in the Heli was allowed to cool for 15 minutes as stated in manual
before second charge was started.
The batteries in the Transmitter (charger) were brand newly opened, brand
name Energizers.
I guess they should start supplying or offer a seperate LiPo charger with
the Heli...

I would still really like to have a mini heli like this ...so I will just
wait it out until some better quality offerings become available.
Just thought you would like the input on it.
Take Care

[Richard]

"M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard" <DK@Hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4528bd69$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> >
> > "M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:Hb_Vg.2045$gL.672@southeast.rr.com...
> > >
> > > After looking and reading rave reviews about them and how they are
going
> > to
> > > be the HOT item for Christmas..Me and my RC bud thought we would go
find
> a
> > > couple today before they were all gone.
> > > The first run of Picco Z Mini Helis through Radio Shack was
> $29.99...they
> > > have since now went up to $39.99. (Something sells good..squeeze
another
> > $10
> > > out of it....cause they come prepriced at $29.99 and the employees
have
> to
> > > remove the stickers from the box.)
> > > Me and a friend of mine went searching today and found a couple with
the
> > old
> > > price tag.. They rang up $39.99 and had to adjust the price for the
> > > sticker...
> > > My friend bought the first one and after looking at it had noticed the
> > > manufacturers had dropped a glob of solder on the main prop..
> > > so we go and exchange it for another...and I buy 1 also.
> > > He charges his up and it fairs just OK for the first battery with some
> > trim
> > > adjustment (no nose weight)..
> > > (I hadn't even opened mine yet as I was watching his to see if indeed
I
> > was
> > > going to keep mine.)
> > > Added just 1 of the 3 little nose weights provided for forward motion,
> on
> > > the second battery charge, on his and the thing wont even lift off the
> > floor
> > > and just spins and wont hold the trim adjustments.
> > > Yes, we followed the instructions to a tee.
> > > We proceeded immediately to get refunds...
> > > They are simply too cheap to last anytime. Looking closely at it, the
> main
> > > props support guide bar/main gear is simply held stationary with the
> foam
> > > body, so when and if (and you will) bump the blades..even though the
> > blades
> > > are flexible it will round out the support (the foam) for the blades
> > support
> > > rendering it useless. Give it another year, and there should be some
> > quality
> > > low budget mini helis available.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, I have read many reviews about them and 99% of them say its just a
> > fantastic plastic toy. Most also say they need a little attention prior
> to
> > flying like the weights in the nose and a little silicon lube here and
> > there. They are just a gimmick toy like the Bit Char-G was/is but just
> like
> > the Char-G I just thought it might be fun to have one. It may just end
up
> > like my Char-G and still be in the box and sitting on the shelf
untouched
> > after 3 years.
> >
> > If you had cheap batteries or rechargeable in the controller that could
> have
> > been the problem with the other flight. The battery in them come with a
> > fairly decent charge in them from the factory, so they usually get their
> > best flight with the first charge unless you charge the battery with a
> > proper Li-Po charger. Rechargeable batteries are a definite no-no in
the
> > controller because they need the voltage to get a proper charge. They
are
> > very power hungry on the charger built in to the controller because of
the
> > 3.7v Li-Po battery and they also need a fairly long time to cool down
> > between runs. The other problem with the Li-Po battery is that people
> just
> > run them flat like they do with NiCd's which is not a good thing.
> >
> > I want to see what happens when people decide that one or two charges is
> not
> > good enough and the world has another Dell Laptop problem happening with
> the
> > Picoo Z. :-)
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
>
> Yes , the first initial charge only took about 10 minutes, as opposed to
the
> 30 minutes of the second charge.
> The battery was not run down flat (props would still turn,but no where
> enough to lift it up)
> The LiPo in the Heli was allowed to cool for 15 minutes as stated in
manual
> before second charge was started.
> The batteries in the Transmitter (charger) were brand newly opened, brand
> name Energizers.
> I guess they should start supplying or offer a seperate LiPo charger with
> the Heli...
>
> I would still really like to have a mini heli like this ...so I will just
> wait it out until some better quality offerings become available.
> Just thought you would like the input on it.
> Take Care
>

WALKERA make a smallish one as well. I think the total size is about 12"s
and comes with a 4 channel radios.

WALKERA No.5 or similar


Cheers

[M78Ultra]

"Richard" <DK@Hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:fZ7Wg.11162$fy.7071@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> >
> > "Richard" <DK@Hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:4528bd69$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> > >
> > > "M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Hb_Vg.2045$gL.672@southeast.rr.com...
> > > >
> > > > After looking and reading rave reviews about them and how they are
> going
> > > to
> > > > be the HOT item for Christmas..Me and my RC bud thought we would go
> find
> > a
> > > > couple today before they were all gone.
> > > > The first run of Picco Z Mini Helis through Radio Shack was
> > $29.99...they
> > > > have since now went up to $39.99. (Something sells good..squeeze
> another
> > > $10
> > > > out of it....cause they come prepriced at $29.99 and the employees
> have
> > to
> > > > remove the stickers from the box.)
> > > > Me and a friend of mine went searching today and found a couple with
> the
> > > old
> > > > price tag.. They rang up $39.99 and had to adjust the price for the
> > > > sticker...
> > > > My friend bought the first one and after looking at it had noticed
the
> > > > manufacturers had dropped a glob of solder on the main prop..
> > > > so we go and exchange it for another...and I buy 1 also.
> > > > He charges his up and it fairs just OK for the first battery with
some
> > > trim
> > > > adjustment (no nose weight)..
> > > > (I hadn't even opened mine yet as I was watching his to see if
indeed
> I
> > > was
> > > > going to keep mine.)
> > > > Added just 1 of the 3 little nose weights provided for forward
motion,
> > on
> > > > the second battery charge, on his and the thing wont even lift off
the
> > > floor
> > > > and just spins and wont hold the trim adjustments.
> > > > Yes, we followed the instructions to a tee.
> > > > We proceeded immediately to get refunds...
> > > > They are simply too cheap to last anytime. Looking closely at it,
the
> > main
> > > > props support guide bar/main gear is simply held stationary with the
> > foam
> > > > body, so when and if (and you will) bump the blades..even though the
> > > blades
> > > > are flexible it will round out the support (the foam) for the blades
> > > support
> > > > rendering it useless. Give it another year, and there should be some
> > > quality
> > > > low budget mini helis available.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, I have read many reviews about them and 99% of them say its just
a
> > > fantastic plastic toy. Most also say they need a little attention
prior
> > to
> > > flying like the weights in the nose and a little silicon lube here and
> > > there. They are just a gimmick toy like the Bit Char-G was/is but
just
> > like
> > > the Char-G I just thought it might be fun to have one. It may just
end
> up
> > > like my Char-G and still be in the box and sitting on the shelf
> untouched
> > > after 3 years.
> > >
> > > If you had cheap batteries or rechargeable in the controller that
could
> > have
> > > been the problem with the other flight. The battery in them come with
a
> > > fairly decent charge in them from the factory, so they usually get
their
> > > best flight with the first charge unless you charge the battery with a
> > > proper Li-Po charger. Rechargeable batteries are a definite no-no in
> the
> > > controller because they need the voltage to get a proper charge. They
> are
> > > very power hungry on the charger built in to the controller because of
> the
> > > 3.7v Li-Po battery and they also need a fairly long time to cool down
> > > between runs. The other problem with the Li-Po battery is that people
> > just
> > > run them flat like they do with NiCd's which is not a good thing.
> > >
> > > I want to see what happens when people decide that one or two charges
is
> > not
> > > good enough and the world has another Dell Laptop problem happening
with
> > the
> > > Picoo Z. :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> >
> > Yes , the first initial charge only took about 10 minutes, as opposed to
> the
> > 30 minutes of the second charge.
> > The battery was not run down flat (props would still turn,but no where
> > enough to lift it up)
> > The LiPo in the Heli was allowed to cool for 15 minutes as stated in
> manual
> > before second charge was started.
> > The batteries in the Transmitter (charger) were brand newly opened,
brand
> > name Energizers.
> > I guess they should start supplying or offer a seperate LiPo charger
with
> > the Heli...
> >
> > I would still really like to have a mini heli like this ...so I will
just
> > wait it out until some better quality offerings become available.
> > Just thought you would like the input on it.
> > Take Care
> >
>
> WALKERA make a smallish one as well. I think the total size is about 12"s
> and comes with a 4 channel radios.
>
> WALKERA No.5 or similar
>
>
> Cheers
>
A bit oversized for indoor flight.. The mini "palm" size is definately what
I would like..
As far as it goes for now, the PiccoZ and Mosquito are about the only
options.
There are a couple of other offerings that are slightly bigger that I have
seen..but I was really hoping the PiccoZ would have been a bit more than
what it really was. Like I said, I am almost 100% sure that by this time
next year there will be more and better options since the popularity and
sales of the Mini PiccoZ.
Thanks for your help!