I'm fed up with my Eco8, which gasser should I try?

[Ju87BStuka]

Well, I've persevered and persevered, but time to rethink. I bought the Eco last October, and was attracted by the silent flight so I could fly locally. But what a price to pay and I'm only just getting to grips with a hover.
Several stock and alternative brushed motors burnt out, so many repairs and upgrades where I'm now at the point that I've spent enough on this thing, but it's so delicate that I'm coming to the conclusion that leaning on something like this is too expensive in repairs and time. Trouble is I've spent so much on it culminating with a Hacker 18s brushless, Schulz Future 45he, just 300 UKpounds just for that pair, and a some airframe upgrades that I'll lose such a lot in selling it.
I've been advised that I should have started out with a gasser, and have been recommended by a reputable dealer that the Kyosho Caliber 30 will transform my leaning.
Whether I keep the Eco or not, what are other's views? I'd really be grateful for some independent advice here.
P.S. I'm not wishing to solicit an avalanche of tirades in Eco defence, I'm sure it's fine after I've trained.

[dru]

I would say to keep the ECO for when you are able to hover and do some FF. I thin that you WILL take a serious hit inthe wallet if you sell it.

Yes a glow powered heli will help to teach you how to fly. The flight times alone will give a better chance. I do not know much about the Caliber so I can say if that is the one to get. I would check around and see what aothers are flying. The Shuttle line as a god entry level heli as well as Jr. The Raptor is still doing well.

I learned on a Nexus and then bought a Raptor. I fly both.

Dru.

[Ju87BStuka]

When I'd repaired the Eco, and put it back together, I found that yet another two parts needed replacing. So while I was buying those, I bought the Calber, and all the gubbins for it. I think it was the quiteness that tipped the scales. I'll retun to the Eco when I'm more proficient.
Thanks again

[dru]

I have been tempted to get a Caliber. I am flying a Nexusand Raptor right now. I thnk if I came home with a new helicopter I would loose my man hood. She would want to know how I intended to fly more then one at a time.:eek:

Dru.

P.S. have fun with the new toy.

[birdseed]

Go with the caliber 30- from what ive heard,( the guy who runs my club and whose opinion i trust) reckons its even better than the raptor- more stable in the hover, but deceptively manoeverable also.

However, when looking to start out, the engine and gyro youll keep longer than the heli will survive. Get a good engine- the os 32 is considered mechanically the best, the webra 35 may give slightly more power, but is slightly trickier to set up and the others are, well cheaper, and you get what you pay for.
get one kind of fuel and stick with it, ( coolpower 15%) and an enya 3 plug.
regarding gyros, im not familiar with the low end ones, but anything by JR, futaba or CSM you want go wrong with.
Blades, stick with woodies initially- wait three crashes ( or 6 months till you can comfortably hover and do figure of eights before you buy a carbon set. (Unless youre having vibration problems, which may be cured by carbon blades)

And most of all be patient learning to fly. Theres no greater impedance to progress than a broken heli.

[Ju87BStuka]

Birdseed, (Interesting handle),

It looks as though I'm in luck from what you say. I opted for the version with the ready installed OS32 SFXGHVCHH or something and I'm using 15% nitromethane. The Gyro is from CSM.
It was set up on Sunday at the local club. Good job since the set-up performed by the shop was totally inadequate and the club's expert had a job controlling... completely out of balance and I would have smashed the thing very quickly. With much patience of setting up.. over an hour, it was proclaimed very stable, the gyro seemed responsive, and I was treated to some of the smoothest flying I've seen performed by a heli pilot. Some excellent advice was provided too.
Joining a good club must be as valuable as a good heli.
As to patience, you're absolutely right. Tentative steps now that I have a decent heli, well set up.
Thanks again