Monster GT / MTA 4 pull start

[Gary]

OK Snapped again, but this time differently.

The KNOTTED end came loose at the NON handle end, somewhere inside the
mechanism. There are four VERY SMALL allen bolts which if I remove I guess
will give me access to whatever is inside - anyone any idea what I might
find and how to "reattached" the string?

I would have opened and checked, but I don't have small enough allen key
yet. Will have it opened in TWO hours.

G.

[Dre]

"Gary" <whatever@whatever.net> wrote in message
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> OK Snapped again, but this time differently.
>
> The KNOTTED end came loose at the NON handle end, somewhere inside the
> mechanism. There are four VERY SMALL allen bolts which if I remove I
> guess will give me access to whatever is inside - anyone any idea what I
> might find and how to "reattached" the string?
>
> I would have opened and checked, but I don't have small enough allen key
> yet. Will have it opened in TWO hours.
>
> G.
>
Just be very careful you dont let the spring out, SPROING!

You end up with a long bit of flat metal :)

I've rewound lots of them, but its a PITA!

There should be a hole in the mechanism that holds one end of the spring
inside. Once you undo the 4 bolts, you'll be able to remove the pull start
off the engine, look inside and you should be able to see where the stick
gets tied to.

Just a hint, when your pulling the pull start off the back of the engine, as
soon as a gap appears between the pull start and the backing plate, slide
something flat into the gap and use this to push the pull start center off
with its housing. Otherwise you risk leaving the one way bearing and its
surround stuck to the shaft and this will definately pull the spring out...

HTH

Cheers Dre

[Richard]

"Dre" <ausjules1977@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Gary" <whatever@whatever.net> wrote in message
> news:ee40dc$4f1$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> > OK Snapped again, but this time differently.
> >
> > The KNOTTED end came loose at the NON handle end, somewhere inside the
> > mechanism. There are four VERY SMALL allen bolts which if I remove I
> > guess will give me access to whatever is inside - anyone any idea what I
> > might find and how to "reattached" the string?
> >
> > I would have opened and checked, but I don't have small enough allen key
> > yet. Will have it opened in TWO hours.
> >
> > G.
> >
> Just be very careful you dont let the spring out, SPROING!
>
> You end up with a long bit of flat metal :)
>
> I've rewound lots of them, but its a PITA!
>
> There should be a hole in the mechanism that holds one end of the spring
> inside. Once you undo the 4 bolts, you'll be able to remove the pull
start
> off the engine, look inside and you should be able to see where the stick
> gets tied to.
>
> Just a hint, when your pulling the pull start off the back of the engine,
as
> soon as a gap appears between the pull start and the backing plate, slide
> something flat into the gap and use this to push the pull start center off
> with its housing. Otherwise you risk leaving the one way bearing and its
> surround stuck to the shaft and this will definately pull the spring
out...
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers Dre
>

Also when you remove the one way bearing from the shaft make sure it goes
back on the same way.

Otherwise if the roto start still works without the pull start string then
dont worry about fixing anything and just use the roto start. I no, flat
battery on the drill doesnt help it start but it wont break on you either.


Cheers

[GTD]

>Just be very careful you dont let the spring out, SPROING!
>
>You end up with a long bit of flat metal :)
>
>I've rewound lots of them, but its a PITA!

Good way to lose and eyeball also ,, , Mine just about got me. .. .

[\Doc\]

"GTD" <duuuh@stoopid.net> wrote in message
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>
>>Just be very careful you dont let the spring out, SPROING!
>>
>>You end up with a long bit of flat metal :)
>>
>>I've rewound lots of them, but its a PITA!
>
> Good way to lose and eyeball also ,, , Mine just about got me. .. .

I usually cut my finger tips up when trying to rewind a pullstart spring.
For $15, I'd rather not f**k with it and just buy a new one, which is what I
have done in the past when they've popped on me.

Doc

[M78Ultra]

I have rewound a few and cussed at all of them and all have never been as
tight as original, resulting in having to cut cut the string shorter to get
proper tension.
That spring is the worst thing about a pullstart. Would be nice if there was
a better design for a pull start (atleast the spring part).


""Doc"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote in message
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>
> "GTD" <duuuh@stoopid.net> wrote in message
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> >
> >>Just be very careful you dont let the spring out, SPROING!
> >>
> >>You end up with a long bit of flat metal :)
> >>
> >>I've rewound lots of them, but its a PITA!
> >
> > Good way to lose and eyeball also ,, , Mine just about got me. .. .
>
> I usually cut my finger tips up when trying to rewind a pullstart spring.
> For $15, I'd rather not f**k with it and just buy a new one, which is what
I
> have done in the past when they've popped on me.
>
> Doc
>
>

[Dre]

"M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I have rewound a few and cussed at all of them and all have never been as
> tight as original, resulting in having to cut cut the string shorter to
> get
> proper tension.
> That spring is the worst thing about a pullstart. Would be nice if there
> was
> a better design for a pull start (atleast the spring part).
>
>
> ""Doc"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote in message
> news:faudnQqGOI6v7JrYnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>>
>> "GTD" <duuuh@stoopid.net> wrote in message
>> news:o4seg2ptn7n5vpaeceml312pv01hstv36q@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>Just be very careful you dont let the spring out, SPROING!
>> >>
>> >>You end up with a long bit of flat metal :)
>> >>
>> >>I've rewound lots of them, but its a PITA!
>> >
>> > Good way to lose and eyeball also ,, , Mine just about got me. .. .
>>
>> I usually cut my finger tips up when trying to rewind a pullstart spring.
>> For $15, I'd rather not f**k with it and just buy a new one, which is
>> what
> I
>> have done in the past when they've popped on me.
>>
>> Doc
>>
>>
>
Bah, your just not putting enough tension on them :)

The ones I fixed were tighter than new cause I wound the spring over a
couple more times!

I personally think that they need to make them a little more robust,
especially considering how they are treated. Every single one I have
rewound I've sat there looking at it thinking how the hell do they hold up
so long...

Cheers Dre

[\Doc\]

"M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
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>Would be nice if there was
> a better design for a pull start (atleast the spring part).

There is a better design, it's called a rotostart! ;-)

Seriously though, breaking in and tuning my buds O.S. .18 had me missing the
ol' yank yank cuss routine............so I'm gunna try the pullstarter on my
new SWK .26 when it gets here. It fires up instantly with the roto on my
other vehix and hot starts have never been a problem so once it's broken in
and tuned it should be the equivalent of starting on the first or second
pull once primed. At the FIRST sign of being cantankerous she's getting a
GS backplate and the HPI roto off the S-25 though!

With all the $$$ I saved on that mill I was able to grab some Mugen Alu
shoes, Mugen 1.0 springs, fuel scent, (6) #8 plugs, a few exhaust couplers
and some CA all for well under what I would have paid for the O.S. mill
alone. Gotta love bargains! Next on the list is some new wheels and tires
for the Mayhem ST (the Bonz are getting
bald..............finally.................damn things last forever!) as well
as some wheels and tires for project Kyosho Muggy.

Doc

[Dre]

""Doc"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote in message
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>
> "M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:TwKNg.10343$Qg.4387@southeast.rr.com...
>>Would be nice if there was
>> a better design for a pull start (atleast the spring part).
>
> There is a better design, it's called a rotostart! ;-)
>
> Seriously though, breaking in and tuning my buds O.S. .18 had me missing
> the ol' yank yank cuss routine............so I'm gunna try the pullstarter
> on my new SWK .26 when it gets here. It fires up instantly with the roto
> on my other vehix and hot starts have never been a problem so once it's
> broken in and tuned it should be the equivalent of starting on the first
> or second pull once primed. At the FIRST sign of being cantankerous she's
> getting a GS backplate and the HPI roto off the S-25 though!
>
> With all the $$$ I saved on that mill I was able to grab some Mugen Alu
> shoes, Mugen 1.0 springs, fuel scent, (6) #8 plugs, a few exhaust couplers
> and some CA all for well under what I would have paid for the O.S. mill
> alone. Gotta love bargains! Next on the list is some new wheels and
> tires for the Mayhem ST (the Bonz are getting
> bald..............finally.................damn things last forever!) as
> well as some wheels and tires for project Kyosho Muggy.
>
> Doc
Whats fuel scent?? Is that stuff you chuck in your fuel to make it smell
different???

Wots is smell like then ai?

Cheers Dre

[\Doc\]

"Dre" <ausjules1977@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ""Doc"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "M78Ultra" <M78Ultra@REMOVEtriad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:TwKNg.10343$Qg.4387@southeast.rr.com...
>>>Would be nice if there was
>>> a better design for a pull start (atleast the spring part).
>>
>> There is a better design, it's called a rotostart! ;-)
>>
>> Seriously though, breaking in and tuning my buds O.S. .18 had me missing
>> the ol' yank yank cuss routine............so I'm gunna try the
>> pullstarter on my new SWK .26 when it gets here. It fires up instantly
>> with the roto on my other vehix and hot starts have never been a problem
>> so once it's broken in and tuned it should be the equivalent of starting
>> on the first or second pull once primed. At the FIRST sign of being
>> cantankerous she's getting a GS backplate and the HPI roto off the S-25
>> though!
>>
>> With all the $$$ I saved on that mill I was able to grab some Mugen Alu
>> shoes, Mugen 1.0 springs, fuel scent, (6) #8 plugs, a few exhaust
>> couplers and some CA all for well under what I would have paid for the
>> O.S. mill alone. Gotta love bargains! Next on the list is some new
>> wheels and tires for the Mayhem ST (the Bonz are getting
>> bald..............finally.................damn things last forever!) as
>> well as some wheels and tires for project Kyosho Muggy.
>>
>> Doc
> Whats fuel scent?? Is that stuff you chuck in your fuel to make it smell
> different???
>
> Wots is smell like then ai?
>
> Cheers Dre

It comes in many "flavors" but this is my favorite:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXERH2&P=7

It smells like grape kool-aid and is hella powerful. My bud was driving up
my street the other day and could smell my Savage before he could see or
hear it. He said he smelt it about 1/8 mile down the road from my house!
It takes the nose-burning, eye watering stank out of the fuel.

Doc