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rivers
Aug 07, 2006, 01:22 PM
Does anyone know where to get triple-row right angle headers with standard .10 inch pin spacing?

rivers

vintage1
Aug 07, 2006, 03:40 PM
Almost anywhere surely?

It's a standard sort of computer style plug.

I assume you mean pins, as for a reciever, not sockets, as for a servo?

MX
Aug 07, 2006, 03:57 PM
I posted the same question a few months ago. Never found any:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=502166

Let me know if you have more luck.

MX

rivers
Aug 07, 2006, 04:11 PM
Yeah, pins as on a receiver. Looking for 3 rows x 5 wide.

rivers
Aug 07, 2006, 04:57 PM
MX,

A 3-row right angle pin connector is made for sure. I have seen it used here:
http://www.mikrodesigns.com/rxo.htm

Just don't know where to buy a few.

rivers

MX
Aug 07, 2006, 04:59 PM
MX,

A 3-row right angle pin connector is made for sure. I have seen it used here:
http://www.mikrodesigns.com/rxo.htm

Just don't know where to buy a few.

rivers

I know they exist, but I'm still trying to find a place where us mere mortals can order them in smaller quantities. Maybe we can get Mikro or Berg or someone to tell us where they get them.

MX

Eric_N57105
Aug 07, 2006, 05:52 PM
Does anyone know where to get triple-row right angle headers with standard .10 inch pin spacing?

rivers

http://www.hobbyengineering.com/SectionHD.html#CatHDPH

A great source for DIY RC stuff are robotics sites. MOST RCers don't do a lot of DIY. MOST robotics guys do. Plus, you can often e-mail the owner or pick up the phone and talk to them.

digikey and mouser also have them, but the selections are often bewildering, and it's difficult to ask questions.

Eric
www.ke6us.com

pmackenzie
Aug 07, 2006, 07:19 PM
All of the headers on that site seem to be single row, and none are said to be 90 degree.
Or did I miss them?
Pat MacKenzie

Lakc
Aug 07, 2006, 07:42 PM
Single row 90 degree are WM6036-ND over at digikey, thats a 36 pin strip that snaps apart easily (pre-scored). What I think your asking for is 90 degree, 3 high instead of wide, and a search of Molex's website says they dont make them. I am sure somebody does, or will, for the right price.

ZAGNUT
Aug 07, 2006, 07:48 PM
ASSuming this is for a receiver then:

if all you want to do is modify an existing receiver to end plugs then order something like part # A1281-ND from digikey. you'll have to cut the shroud back but it should work just fine. they have tons more just look for "DIN connectors". i've also attached a picture of this part.

if you're designing something new then how about copying the way FMA does end plugs? the advantages i see are less plated thru-holes in the board, the board can be about 0.25" shorter, less height above the board, maybe save some weight and the connectors can be spaced slightly to accommodate the old style sanwa plugs.


dave

pmackenzie
Aug 07, 2006, 07:54 PM
The FMA method looks fairly easy to DIY.
Something to try next time. Thanks.
Pat MacKenzie

MX
Aug 07, 2006, 08:02 PM
ASSuming this is for a receiver then:

if all you want to do is modify an existing receiver to end plugs then order something like part # A1281-ND from digikey. you'll have to cut the shroud back but it should work just fine. they have tons more just look for "DIN connectors". i've also attached a picture of this part.

if you're designing something new then how about copying the way FMA does end plugs? the advantages i see are less plated thru-holes in the board, the board can be about 0.25" shorter, less height above the board, maybe save some weight and the connectors can be spaced slightly to accommodate the old style sanwa plugs.


dave

I need to find a source without the shrouds on them. If I make a product, I don't want to have to cut them off all the time.

I wonder if FMA did that because they wanted to space the connectors out or because they couldn't find any 3-row headers either.

MX

Unterhausen
Aug 07, 2006, 10:07 PM
I have some robots that use 3 row right angle headers, I figured digikey sold them, but never checked.

vintage1
Aug 08, 2006, 04:46 AM
I need to find a source without the shrouds on them. If I make a product, I don't want to have to cut them off all the time.

I wonder if FMA did that because they wanted to space the connectors out or because they couldn't find any 3-row headers either.

MX

Or because it weighs less...?

ZAGNUT
Aug 08, 2006, 05:35 AM
Or because it weighs less...?

by my rough calculations they only saved about one gram with this method.

dave

Andrew0820
Aug 08, 2006, 10:14 AM
This looks like a possible source: Comm Con (http://www.commcon.com/main/matchParts.html?page=10-2)

You may be able to locate a retail seller from these folks: Adam Tech (http://www.adam-tech.com/pg196-218.pdf)

MX
Aug 08, 2006, 11:47 AM
This looks like a possible source: Comm Con (http://www.commcon.com/main/matchParts.html?page=10-2)

You may be able to locate a retail seller from these folks: Adam Tech (http://www.adam-tech.com/pg196-218.pdf)

Looks like Comm Con has them. $7.27 for a 36x3 piece. :eek:

Thanks,

MX

Andrew0820
Aug 08, 2006, 01:43 PM
Looks like Comm Con has them. $7.27 for a 36x3 piece. :eek:

Thanks,

MX

Unfortunately, they ain't cheap. You can change your plating options to tin and cut your price about 50%. I went thru my usual list of retailers and was unable to locate any 3 row RA headers. Adam Technologies manufacturers 3 row, so you may be able to hunt thru their distributor list and find a better price.

andrew

tomp
Aug 09, 2006, 12:38 PM
Does anyone know where to get triple-row right angle headers with standard .10 inch pin spacing?

rivers
I got mine from Samtec: http://www.samtec.com

I happened to have something close in my parts box that I cut up for my receiver. Don't have the part number...

tom

westfw
Aug 09, 2006, 04:25 PM
I was going to mention samtec; I have fond memorys of their nice sample policy.
They have triple-row headers in a bunch of formats with a bunch of options.
I got a quote for 1000 "gold flashed" 6-wide connectors of about $0.85 each, or
40-wide (break them up yourself) for about $4 each.

How many did you have to buy when you ordered from Samtec?

MX
Aug 09, 2006, 04:52 PM
I just sent Samtec a pricing request for about 50 of the 3x50 right angle parts, so we'll see what they say.

MX

tomp
Aug 10, 2006, 08:31 AM
How many did you have to buy when you ordered from Samtec?

Buy? No, they were samples. Samtec has one of the best sample policies going. Don't know if it would also work for non-professionals.

Worth a try.

tom

MX
Aug 10, 2006, 11:47 AM
Anybody interested in some if I order a bunch. I was thinking of ordering some of the triple row x 50 right angles, gold flash finish. These can be snapped apart for smaller lengths. Would be about 7.50 per stick.

MX

MX
Aug 16, 2006, 05:10 PM
Anybody interested in some if I order a bunch. I was thinking of ordering some of the triple row x 50 right angles, gold flash finish. These can be snapped apart for smaller lengths. Would be about 7.50 per stick.

MX

Anyone? I've got one other person interested. If I can get one or two more, I'll order about 50 sticks of TSW-150-25-F-T-RA.

MX

rivers
Aug 17, 2006, 06:51 PM
MX,
Can you explain the breakdown of the part number?

rivers

JimDrew
Aug 17, 2006, 11:32 PM
I would like to order several thousand of these. Do they have that kind of quantity available?

MX
Aug 18, 2006, 01:28 AM
MX,
Can you explain the breakdown of the part number?

rivers


TSW-150-25-F-T-RA

TSW = code for standard 0.1" thru-hole headers
1 = single spacing (2 = 1 pin every other position, i.e. .2 spacing)
50 = number of rows
25 = lead length (0.1" below the plastic joiner to go through the PCB)
F = Gold flash finish (other options are G=gold, L=light gold)
T = triple - 3 pins per row
RA = right angle

MX
Aug 18, 2006, 01:30 AM
I would like to order several thousand of these. Do they have that kind of quantity available?

I don't know. I only asked for a quote for 50. For thousands, you should probably go to www.samtec.com and click the "Build a Partnumber" button. Once you have the part number, click to get a quote. I would assume you'll get a better quantity discount. Maybe you should get some for us. :)

MX

JimDrew
Aug 18, 2006, 02:35 AM
I sent samtec and Adam-tech both emails asking for quantity pricing. I will let you know what they tell me.

JimDrew
Aug 18, 2006, 04:10 PM
Adam Tech's response:

PH3RA-120-UA
3 row pin header by 40 posistion

1000 = $1.75ea.
2500 = $1.65ea.
5000 = $1.59ea.
10000 = $1.54ea.

MX
Aug 18, 2006, 04:21 PM
Adam Tech's response:

PH3RA-120-UA
3 row pin header by 40 posistion

1000 = $1.75ea.
2500 = $1.65ea.
5000 = $1.59ea.
10000 = $1.54ea.

Much better pricing at higher quantities. If you are ordering, will you share some with us? You could probably add some to the cost for your troubles and we'll still be happy. :)


MX

GlowFly
Aug 18, 2006, 05:04 PM
If Jim's willing to supply a single bundle to a central person, say MX, I'd like to chip in on 15 pieces. That is if Jim & MX would be prepared to do that and post to the UK in my case.

How about it?
--
Steve

MX
Aug 18, 2006, 05:15 PM
If Jim's willing to supply a single bundle to a central person, say MX, I'd like to chip in on 15 pieces. That is if Jim & MX would be prepared to do that and post to the UK in my case.

How about it?
--
Steve

I'd be willing to do that if Jim doesn't want to mess with small part quantities going many places. I've been regularly shipping small parts around the world. Maybe I could get a 100 - 200 from Jim to part out.

Jim, did they give you a delivery time?

MX

rivers
Aug 20, 2006, 07:34 AM
MX,

Where is the solder pad layout for the triple row right angle header?

rivers

MX
Aug 20, 2006, 11:53 AM
MX,

Where is the solder pad layout for the triple row right angle header?

rivers

I'm not sure what you are asking for, but the pad layout would just be spaced at 0.1" in a grid of 3 x N, where N is the number of triple rows.
Something like this (8 triple rows):

MX
Aug 20, 2006, 11:59 AM
By the way, here's the datasheet:

MRP
Aug 21, 2006, 05:32 AM
If Jim's willing to supply a single bundle to a central person, say MX, I'd like to chip in on 15 pieces. That is if Jim & MX would be prepared to do that and post to the UK in my case.

--
Steve

I would also be in for something like 15 or 20 - and like Steve I'm in the UK - maybe we could share shipping somehow.

Cheers

Mark