full house gliders

[saggita2000]

hi to all
would like comment on full house gliders.am about to embark on my first full house sailplane and would like feedback on what might be a good option to start with.i like to build from balsa,so a built up plane ,wing,tailplane and fuz would be a great option....thanking you in anticipation..

[Vince inTX.]

Spirit Elite kit is a great "first full house" plane. Build it straight and true and it will serve and teach you well.

Vince

[aeajr]

hi to all
would like comment on full house gliders.am about to embark on my first full house sailplane and would like feedback on what might be a good option to start with.i like to build from balsa,so a built up plane ,wing,tailplane and fuz would be a great option....thanking you in anticipation..

What size plane are you looking for? 2M? 100 inch/standard? 3M?

Spirit elite was mentioned and is available as a kit or an ARF

Spirit 100 is another, but this is a pretty heavy ship.

http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html They have a number of 2M kits. The Thermick is very well known.

If you want to leave balsa and get into advanced projects you might take a look at the plans available on the Charles River Site.
http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles.htm#On-Line%20Plans

the other place to look is on e-bay where you will find people selling airplane kits that they bought years ago and never built. You find Sagitta 600s and 900s out there as well as others. www.ebay.com search on sailplane kits or glider kits.

[3810]

Hey saggita 2000,
Have you thought about a scratch build like an Airtronics Whisper or a 2m Jouster.
What do you guys think?
I have heard that both are good first"full house" models.

3810

[MTT]

Currently on offer at eBay :Bob Martin Mystery Ship (http://cgi.ebay.com/Mystery-Ship-100-Radio-Control-Sailplane-Glider_W0QQitemZ290013041527QQihZ019QQcategoryZ256 3QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

The Mystery Ship was (it's now out of production ) one of the first laser-cut kits, and the fit and finish of the parts is excellent.
The airplane spans 122" and features the SD 7037 airfoil, and flies very well.

I just recently finished my second MS.
The only negative IMHO is the full flying T-tail. The way it is designed, it's somewhat sloppy, also, the tailboom is prone to splitting in even moderately rough landings, it's just not strong enough for the forces generated by that T-tail on a rough landing.
Based on my experiences with the first MS, I converted the second to a regular cross-tail.

Since you like to build, I think this would be a good choice for you.

[atjurhs]

hi to all
would like comment on full house gliders.am about to embark on my first full house sailplane and would like feedback on what might be a good option to start with.i like to build from balsa,so a built up plane ,wing,tailplane and fuz would be a great option....thanking you in anticipation..

I have a 118" full-house bird called Grace from NSP. It is the 3rd generation of the Elegant seris.

It flies spectacularly!

It will float very nicely, and speed out of sink too. It is an absolutely beautiful looking bird. Mine is red and yellow, not the blue and white shown in the NSP picture. It didn't take me very long at all to go from ARF to RTF. I'd highly reccomend it, espeacially at $280! BTW, if you are interested you can also put an electric motor on it - yuck! but it has that option. There are other reviews of the Elegant I and II versions on the net. But I can attest to how nicely the III generation that NSP offers flies.

http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=1589

[saggita2000]

thanks mate

[saggita2000]

would like to thank everybody for the input and info regarding my project.will sift thru it and check out the sites mentioned....thanks again.

saggita

[3810]

Good luck with your build

3810

[C-MIC]

Saggita,
If you have interest, experience and most important ,,,time to build from balsa kit, take a look at skybench.com . Thay have many choice with good performance which suit meet your requirments. I bought several kits from them, but I just started and GOING to complete (just need some fiberglassing, ) after covering.It is a 12 ft Thermal Glider with everything you need (or even more if you wish), and not difficult to builds even I haven't built balsa kits since 20+ years ago (came back this hobby 5yrs ago).
David

[kkw]

Saggita.
don't know where you are located, but if it is in Australia, then have a look at the Blejzyk range on the Airsports R.C. web site. The Hammer is a 2.4m span full house glider, with pre-sheeted foam core wings and fibreglass fuselage etc. The Harpia is 2.8m etc. These models are very strong and of excellent quality.

[averen]

I'll third or forth or whatever the Spirit Elite. That was my first plane and it served me very well. It's a little heavy for a 2M (most 2Ms are actually quite heavy for their span!) but it flew well and taught me the basics of RC as well at TD flight.

The wing is fairly strong and can handle a pretty hard launch, not like a moldie, more like bubble dancer or Ava style launch. On a good high start you can keep the energy up enough to get a nice zoom and pop the parachute off at the end...lots of fun :)

If you get the Spirit Elite go with metal gear servos for the flaps (actually whatever you get you'll probably want MGs on the flaps!) I started with 6 - HS81s and ended up putting metal gears in the flaps after stripping out the gears a number of times...eventually I learned to bring the flaps up on landing, slow learner I guess :rolleyes:

I built my first Spirit Elite, then crashed it after deciding that I could fly it without help (keep in mind this was my FIRST plane...) So I went the ARF route after my baby died. I had the ARF for probably 2 years before I finally sold it.

Everything mentioned here is a good start for full house. In all honesty if you plan on doing it a while and you think you're decent enough with RE, I would go ahead and get the best you can afford. Since you already have the basics down (controls, turns, flying toward you, landing, etc...) you shouldn't have any problem with a full house ship, you'll just get faster response from the ailerons vs. the rudder and learning when/how to use flaps.

Jared

[wakumann]

Wrong tread sorry

Cheers

Thomas

[saggita2000]

thanks again to all...it is great to know that there are people out there ready to help anyone with a question or just some help......dave