World F3J Championship 2006 Slovakia

[davidleitch]

Thought I'd start a small thread on the above world champ which starts July 30. The competition web site is at:

http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=4

If anyone has any comments or gossip on what's going on in Slovakia it would be nice to read about it. Hopefully there will be Sidney Lensen preview somewhere as his comments are generally amusing and well informed.

I'll be cheering on the Australian team which includes current world champ. David Hobby.

[davidleitch]

The Uncle Sydney preview, as always worth a read, can be found at:

http://home.clara.net/barcs/

[Goinav8n]

I have asked Jim Monaco the US Team manager to send updayes. They will be very busy but he said he would try. They all departed for the Worlds Sunday and Monday. It should be a very good Worlds

Jeff

[Tony D.]

My flying buddy Joe is on the Canadian team and I asked him to send updates if he can find the time.

Anything he sends me I will post here.

There is some serious talent over there and it should be a great competition.


T.D.

[Goinav8n]

There were a few scores up from the Martin Cup on the web. It looks as though the competion is very tight.

Anyone else here anything??

Jeff

[D_Ryan]

All;

There's a pretty detailed running commentary of the going's-on at the Norwegian F3X site. The link to the specific F3J Worlds is: www.f3x.no/F3J/2006.

As of just now, they are talking about activity through the fourth round, so it's quite current.

Plus, at the event organizer's web site mentioned earlier, you can go to the "Results" link, and see the round-by-round scores for all competitors, including the Martin Cup rounds.

regards,
Dave

[dhauch]

[QUOTE=davidleitch]Thought I'd start a small thread on the above world champ which starts July 30. The competition web site is at:

http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=4

where are you getting day to day results from this sites, i don't see any ?

thx,
dh

[WimH]

where are you getting day to day results from this sites, i don't see any ?

thx,
dhhere : http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=8

[Neil Walker]

My flying buddy Joe is on the Canadian team and I asked him to send updates if he can find the time.

Anything he sends me I will post here.

There is some serious talent over there and it should be a great competition.

T.D.

Go Canada :)

[davidleitch]

Of interest was how well the juniors went in the Martin cup.

[pmackenzie]

All;

There's a pretty detailed running commentary of the going's-on at the Norwegian F3X site. The link to the specific F3J Worlds is: www.f3x.no/F3J/2006.


Link doesn't work. This one will:
http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2006/index.htm
Pat MacKenzie

[Goinav8n]

I have flown against both Cody and Joe.( The Juniors) and they are very very good. Joe Wurts uses Joe Newcombs eyes as he has some super radar vision of some kind. Cody is the same way. While timing for him he asked me to keep an eye on his plane. I said I hadnt seen it for the last 6 minutes. I wish my eyes were that good again. The seniors have to be worried as these 2 are just plain good

Jeff

[F3X]

Martin Cup:

1. Wurts, Joe USA

2. Remington, Cody USA

3. Ivancík, Ján SVK

4. Newcomb, Joseph USA

5. Oetter, Rolf CAN

6. Hinsch, Karl GER

7. Kolb, Philip GER

8. Feigl, Benedikt GER

9. Lämmlein, Tobias GER

10. Strautins, Carl AUS

11. Borst, Arend CAN

12. Kiesling, Tom USA


It looks like team USA (most of them) are in the groove!!! Good luck guys!!

[davidleitch]

A lot of the competition favourites are in that list, at least from the seniors. However long experience watching the Australian soccer team has taught me that friendlies and pre event events are not always a good indicator of the real thing.

[becsta]

Gee, they're not kidding when the 10mins is up. Those two photos of just about the whole flightline landing at the same times are just amazing!

[D_Ryan]

Becsta;

That's due to the fact that if you are still in the air when the horn sounds indicating the end of the working time, it is an automatic 30 point deduction.

It's a careful balance between using as much of the working time as possible (hence Carl Strautins 2.4 second tow in the first fly-off round of the Martin Cup), and not being late...

r/
Dave

[Goinav8n]

Here is an update from Jim Monaco the team Manager. He descibes some of the problems and great flying our guys are having.

Jeff


Hey Jeff – fo some reason my posts are not getting thru to RCSE – can you forward this on…?

Thanks - Jim



Jim Monaco

US F3J Team Manager 2006




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From: Jim Monaco [mailto:JimSoars@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:52 PM
To: 'soaring@airage.com'
Cc: 'cathymonaco@earthlink.net'; 'Cathy Monaco'
Subject:



It is late on Monday evening here, and I have been very busy with team activities and have not had any time to post status updates for all our great supporters.



While there is some wi-fi connectivity at the field, I am always too busy to use it. The hotel has no connectivity, so I am trying to use some public hotspots from the town center, but it is unreliable. I have no idea when I will have a connection that this message will go out on.



We had a terrific Martin Cup event. Seven of our 8 pilots finished in the top 26! We put 4 of our 8 pilots into the flyoffs, Phil Barnes was about 1 landing from making the flyoff, Skip probably would have also made the flyoffs if I didn’t make a major mistake (I’ll describe later). Our Junior Casey was also hampered by some calling mistakes, but all in all it was a terrific performance. Finishing 19 in an event of 175 pilots of this caliber was probably my best personal performance ever.



I should describe for you the way that the organizers managed to get 6 rounds in for 175 pilots in about 2 days of flying. We had large flight groups. I think there were 15 ins some groups. During each round at the 2 minute left mark, the organizers started allowed the helpers to go onto the flight line to prepare the lines. Immediately following the round the prep time was started for the next group. This made for a lot of activity on the flight line. The difficult part was when our team was scheduled back to back. There was no time to leave the field and get your stuff, if you were calling for another pilot. We often had helpers bring our stuff out and then leave. It took a lot of organization to keep things straight. Skip and I were on the same channel. After one of my flights I was having a discussion with the timekeeper and turned my plane off and put my radio down. All the while the clock was running for Skip who followed me. Skip hollered for me to drop the conversation and to get ready to launch so I immediately went over the launch corridor. When Joe was tensioning the line in preparation for launching, Skip noticed his plane acting oddly – Joe was just ready to throw the plane at the buzzer and Skip yelled for him to NOT throw… Cocked and loaded, finger on the trigger and Skip managed to stop Joe! He put the model down, and quickly switched to the backup – and it too was acting odd – then we realized that my transmitter was still on!!! I killed mine and Skip reloaded his primary and launched, getting the rest of his time and a good landing. My mistake cost him a flyoff spot! I was (am) upset, but needed to focus on the rest of the flights.



Skip went on to have even more bizarre problems. In his next launch, the plane veered sharp left, then back right across the flight line, then back across to the left across the flight line. I have never seen Skip launch like that. He finally popped off at about 1/3 launch height into very light conditions. He hung around in some incredibly light lift, all the while complaining that the model didn’t feel quite right. In an incredible display of light air flying, with Joe calling him in and out of 23’ circle changes, he managed to land only 6 seconds short of the time with a decent landing. Upon getting the plane he discovered that the rudder servo had deflected full travel in one direction and locked. He flew the entire flight will full rudder!.



The rest of the team put in excellent scores in less dramatic fashion. In the end we had 4 pilots in the flyoffs including 2 juniors. We had 2 flyoff flights. Joe flew terrific as usual, with a comment “I finally showed up”. Joseph Newcomb (a junior) only got a 90 point landing and that cost him 2nd place. Cody Remington ( a junior) flew 2 great rounds and managed to take 2nd place among the top pilots in the world!!! Joseph wound up in 3rd place. Tom Kiesling had a flight he worked hard to save waaay down wind, by could not get back and had to relight to get a few points, putting him at the bottom of the flyoff.



At this point all the hard work by the team was showing and we worked out some kinks that will help us in the championships!!



On Sunday nite we had the opening ceremonies and it was quite an event. Ethnic dancers performed along with the local baton squad and a few other acts. We marched into the town square team by team carrying our country flags. I was honored to have been selected to prepare and deliver the athletes oath. After the ceremony, we had a short reception with the mayor of the town and then the serious business of discussing the rules in the team manager meeting.



Today (Monday) was a tough time for our team. Our first mishap was a broken tow ring during Tom Kieslings launch. The air was very dead and with a poor launch he was unable to reach what little air was around and it appears this will be his throwout round. Joseph launched into some tough air and never managed to find the air and wound up quite short of time. Cody flew a terrific flight in the light air, but caught a wingtip on landing and it spun into him costing him the landing. Casey Adamczyk our other junior, flew 2 excellent rounds and helping the team greatly. Cody and and Joseph then put in 2 great flights that are keeping them in the hunt. Joe had a disaster on his 2nd flight. With 3 minutes to go and plenty of altitude, he had a midair taking out his primary model – a custom light ICON. He was granted a reflight and was placed in a subsequent round. In that round he had a great launch but never found the lift and milked the flight but came up about a minute short. Skip put in 1 great flight before darkness stopped things. He will fly his 2nd flight first thing in the morning.



We are starting earlier tomorrow so I need to get to sleep. I’ll update again when I can.

Jim



Jim Monaco

US F3J Team Manager 2006

[Goinav8n]

It appears that when Joe was launching Skips plane the tow ring broke. Joes hand was cut up. Pics Here

http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?&item=17&album=332.

It didnt appear to be bad but when I saw the Title Skip Miller Injured it got my attention.

Jeff

[F3X]

Team USA update:
Looks like Tom & Joe may make the fly-off, Skip is 70 points behind including the throw out and that is a lot to make up in this WC.
The USA Juniors are looking good; Casey needs to fly clean the rest of the week and needs a little luck to make a fly-off position. Cody and Joseph are looking strong.


Btw. The WC web site is awesome; they did such a great job putting that on. Lots of info and if you click on a competitor’s name you get his rank and all his round scores in a drop down menu. Very nice!!

[OVSS Boss]

Landing late also ditches any landing you get too, so if you nailed it you loose 130 points, which is a killer.

Marc

[georgeg]

How many flyers advance to the finals?

[davidleitch]

It looks like 12 pilots make the finals.

[davidleitch]

From memory, prelimary points don't carry over to the finals, all the finalists start equal and the flight task goes to 15 minutes.

[davidleitch]

You have to admire Arend Borst's flying to date.

[F3X]

You have to admire Arend Borst's flying to date.


Arend is a machine! He posts 1000's like they are free. Unfortunately all is zeroed out in the fly offs so it’s a new contest for the top 12 come Friday.

Latest news is he puffed his Supra, no firm details yet but he had a back up ready and still got 835 normalized points. Not bad. But even with flying so well anything can happen and take you out.

The USA Junior team is #1 with a round to go!! Good job guys!

[mlee8249]

I'm so damn proud of them Juniors!!!!!!! They are awesome!

Mike Lee

[thelocust]

Latest news is he puffed his Supra, no firm details yet but he had a back up ready and still got 835 normalized points. Not bad. But even with flying so well anything can happen and take you out.

Here's the "Gossip" entry on that one:
http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=20&pol=c77

[Wildewinds]

I wonder how it was destroyed.

[Goinav8n]

I just received an update from Jim the team manager

Here it is


Jeff,
Here is another update...
Jim

Jim Monaco


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Monaco [mailto:jimmonaco@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:01 PM
To: 'Mark Howard'; 'soaring@airage.com'
Subject: RE: [RCSE] F3J WC Update

Mark,
[Jim Monaco]
Team position is determined after the preliminaries - the flyoff scores do
not count toward the team score.

The juniors are doing VERY well and still have 2 flights that we hope to get
in tomorrow. We are in the protect the lead mode and will be quite
conservative.

We had a good day for the seniors as well. Joe and Tom both swapped around.
Joe put a hurting on some teams in some very light air. Tom put in some
solid flights to hold his position and Skip had a very tough round in the
rain where no-one made their times, but he was a little short of the winner
of the round.

We expect a bunch of rain again tomorrow so we have no idea how many more
rounds we might get in.

Jim

Jim Monaco
US F3J Team Manager 2006

[Goinav8n]

Im not sure but it sound as though Arend had a Mid-air Here is a pic from the site http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=20&pol=c77

Oh man the Juniors are king..... It appears we will have good members for years to come.

Jeff

[Joe W]

Im not sure but it sound as though Arend had a Mid-air Here is a pic from the site http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=20&pol=c77

Oh man the Juniors are king..... It appears we will have good members for years to come.

Jeff

Teams are doing well... Juniors are doing GREAT!

I've just a minute before I have to get my tx into impound...

Today is supposed to be the last day. Not sure if the weather will cooperate though. Lotsa rain in the night, and very cloudy this morning.

Got my mid-aired Icon repaired yesterday (wing centersection sliced clean through in round 2). Flew it in the last round yesterday and did well in a launch/min sink contest.

As to Arends Supra failure, the moral of the story is to use glue to bond the tail boom onto the pod. Not a mid-air or design flaw, just a assembly mistake.

Gotta go, they give you a penalty if you don't get your tx turned in on time.

Joe

[thelocust]

As of 10 rounds, Joe is still in 6th place, and Tom has slipped out of the flyoffs landing in 20th with a pretty rough round #10. Skip has come back a little to be in 28th.

Senior Results here:
http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=96&kategoria=Seniors&comp=370#compdet370

Also - regarding the Supra incident - what do you use instead of glue to attach a boom to the fuse? Friction and hope? :)

[Wildewinds]

Maybe he used tape?

Joe's in 2nd place now. GO JOE!

[davidleitch]

I think the list of finalists is now complete. Its interesting to note that Supras appear to have done well, at least in the prevailing conditions, as Arend Borst was flying one. The Australian mailing list has mentioned that thermals were light and variable.

I think the finals have three previous world champions in the list, so should be a heavyweight event.

[mlee8249]

This is awesome!! U.S. Juniors are ruling the Team points!!!!!! The Boys in Denver have to SCREAMING!!!!!!! Go Joe, Cody and Casey!!

Mike Lee

[kkw]

Phew!! Looks like Carl and David are in the flyoffs, for AUSTRALIA!!!! Joe Wurts was the only US team member to make the flyoff, and as always, he will be hard to beat (as will the other 10 guys :) ) Aussie, Aussie, Aussie......

[pmackenzie]

Two Canadians in the finals as well. :D
Pat MacKenzie

[Batmanwpg]

Go Canada Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p :p :p

[Joe W]

It is now the morning of the flyoffs. We get started at 10 AM, and will fly four rounds of seniors and juniors. All three juniors are in the flyoffs, and the jr team took GOLD!!! Go Jrs!!!

The senior team had some bad luck during the contest, with some freaky equipment failures. Tom K. got his first throwout due to a ring failure on a parachute. A post-mortem shows that the chrome got a micro-crack in it, and the metal inside corroded, then fatigued and failed. It was a chute that we had been using in the Martin Cup, as well as in earlier flights. Tom just got the short straw. On a launch for Skip, we had the line break right in front of the parachute (chute ended up with about a foot of line on it. It broke just before the throw while under a bunch of tension. I was using my right hand to lightly touch the line for directional guidance, and my right hand got a bit sliced up when the short bit of line between my hand and the break went whizzing by. It was pretty annoying at the time, but ended up being only cosmetic in nature. I was somewhat lucky in that the slice on the inside of the wrist wasn't deep.

My newest light Icon got in a mid-air in the 2nd round. The wing was sliced clean through just inside the wing joiner box. Fortunately I was able to sort it out and land it softly about a km away, and even more fortunately, it was in a field of the proverbial tall grass. It took me several days to rebuild it, using the time that I wasn't calling the jrs/srs to effect the repairs. Got it done just in time for a late evening perfectly flat air flight, and it did the job for me. Finally tested the structure on a test launch last night into the wind. Only used 1.25 line for a safety link as I will not likely use the model in strong winds. The rebuilt spar and wing performed nicely and broke the 1.25 line about 2-3 seconds into the tow.

Our towers are performing wonderfully, we have been getting tows that are equal to, or better than, the rest of the field. The launch advantage is especially evident with the juniors. Frequently we have just been launching, then sitting on top of the gaggle and waiting for them to take chances. I had probably the best F3J launch of my life in my last flight. It was better than most F3B launches, the zoom just kept going and going and.... The towers said that they were expecting the 1.35 line to be breaking on the flight.

But, the best flights with the juniors have been when they run away from the gaggle and hook up with the one big thermal far away. They have flown wonderfully. The last part of the day yesterday ended up with some stronger winds, which increased the luck factor in the scores considerably. Joseph Newcomb was the recipient of the wrong place/wrong time award on his flight. He flew an excellent flight, but he ran into some super sink at the wrong moment.

We start the flyoffs at 10 AM (1 AM California time), and should be done by about 2 PM. Should be a lot of fun to see how it all sorts out. We have done some recruiting from other teams to help out the 3 jrs in the fly-offs. I'll be calling for Joseph, Skip for Cody, and Tom will be the caller for Casey.

Wish us luck!
Joe Wurts
Proud USA team member

[Wildewinds]

This makes me want to practice more.

Nice write up, Joe. You guys have done us proud. Now just go out and win 1st place.

[Wylie Shaw]

go Joe Joe, and the Juniors......go go go.... :D :D :D

[bwilman]

Looks like the results are up on the website, Dave Hobby is master well done!

David Hobby (AUS) 9957.50 9 3927.60 1
Sebastian Feigl (GER) 9914.80 12 3884.70 2
Rolf Oetter (CAN) 9982.90 3 3774.10 3
Joe Wurts (USA) 9984.20 2 3666.50 4
Karl Hinsch (GER) 9975.00 5 3629.30 5
Arend Borst (CAN) 9992.70 1 3276.60 6
Jaroslav Tupec (CZE) 9967.00 6 3169.00 7
Martin Rajšner (CZE) 9963.40 7 3163.60 8
Massimo Verardi (ITA) 9952.90 10 3111.20 9
Carl Strautins (AUS) 9945.40 11 3079.90 10
Hiroyuki Sakai (JPN) 9981.30 4 2768.80 11
Roy Dor (ISR) 9960.60 8 2487.30 12

[Fred_L]

Congratulations to David Hobby from Australia. Back to back World F3J Championships!

I don't think David was ever out of the top 12 and he even survived a midair in the last flight of the fly-offs to take the world championship.

Looking at the scores during the preliminaries, you didn't need to far off perfect to be pushed a long way down the standings. That competition is tough.

F

[glderguy]

Congrats to DH, 2 in a row now, pretty awesome. Will he become the DP of F3J? Not sure what happened but looks like one bad round out of a otherwise great finals performance by JW took him out of it, too bad.
How about team USA juniors, 1/3/6, junior team World Champs! Congrats to the whole team and special congrats to new World Junior F3J champ, Cody Remington!
Walter

[davidleitch]

My congratulations also to David. To win a title once takes quality, to win it twice in a row, in very different conditions, and against what is obviously a quality field, is the mark of a true champion.

I might add that David also flys electrics and is often seen at the local Australian 7 cell competitions.

[Goinav8n]

Congrats to the 2 world champs. David Hobby and Cody remington. I wish I could have been there to watch. Our Juniors are very good. Next time I think 2 or 3 will be in the senior events.

Jeff

[DrFragnasty]

Anyone else note the appearance of Iron Chef Hiroyuki Sakai. Came in 11th.

83. Hiroyuki Sakai (JPN) 9981.30 4 2768.80 11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef

Multi-talented!

Chris.

[thelocust]

Anyone else note the appearance of Iron Chef Hiroyuki Sakai. Came in 11th.


Ha! If only it was actually the Iron Sakai :)
http://www.f3x.za.org/visitors.php

Congrats to both of the US teams!

[mnluz]

Maybe he used tape?

Joe's in 2nd place now. GO JOE!

Yep I saw with my own eyes the pod and carbon tupe. Friction and double side tape.... no glue there.

Arend flew to perfection on the preliminaries... no mistakes and just plain beautiful. Attention to details on his bulding is amazing.... the tape thing, turned out to be a bad call. The HLG like carbon pushrods that he uses on the elevator and rudder is also scary for daily abuse.

His carbon supra with glass tips was.. well.. 60oz. Lighter than my all glass supra.