Berg 4 microstamp antenna fell off

[straightup]

Getting ready to put my new berg receiver into my plane and when I picked it up the antenna fell off. I hadn't looked at it very closely nor had I even unravelled the antenna yet. I have no idea where it was attached. This is the shrink wrapped version. I'm trying to decide if I can solder it on or if I have to send it back to berg.

Any assistance would be great. This is their new version. I just got it!!

Thanks

[Comatose]

Just solder it back on. It goes through the hole in the corner and then solders to the pad that mushes into the black 0805 component.

[BARNESJONR]

I have had a few do that ... just the moving of them around as I set them up in a new plane seems to work them loose. After you solder it back on, you may want to hit it with a dab or two of hot glue. I did ... kind of works as a strain relief.

And please remind me to RANGE CHECK the heck out of this one before I do the maiden! <grin>

[vintage1]

If hot glue not available, use epoxy, warmed with a heat gun. Used to have a lot of fracture probems when I used to do S/C in the 60's araldite and my sisters hairdryer solved them completely..:D

[unclecrash]

There seems to be more than a few issues with the new microstamp. Mine had a problem with channel 4 I fired it up but no rudder wiggle the plug and it would work so I unplugged to find one of the pins pushed in. The plug was not forced on it went right on like the rest. So I got a magnifer out and it looked like it was never soldeded. So I did it myself. I think there quality control has gone to crap Im done with castle seen way too many problems with there equipment. The Esc fry left and right for no reason Iwll go back to Jeti and the electron 6 never had a problem with either. Dave

[straightup]

Hey Folks,

Thanks for all the responses. I'm actually glad it fell off now and not while I was flying! I'll be double checking the antenna attachment in the future.

[vespa]

yeah, that antenna is useless. I've never even tried flying with one - I replace them before I even install the crystal. Speaking of which...

[Mister UHU]

Maybe you should post any issues with Castle Creations gear in their forum,
(at the bottom of RCG opening page).

Their new RXs are full of bugs ; as their ESC / PC cable link software was.

They seem to have too many plates in the air at the moment,
and dropping some.

I am getting a bit concerned with some of the reports,
if this carries on I am worried someone will get hurt in an accident.

[unclecrash]

Maybe you should post any issues with Castle Creations gear in their forum,
(at the bottom of RCG opening page).

Their new RXs are full of bugs ; as their ESC / PC cable link software was.

They seem to have too many plates in the air at the moment,
and dropping some.

I am getting a bit concerned with some of the reports,
if this carries on I am worried someone will get hurt in an accident.

Already done that its funny they dont reply to ya until you talk bad about there product. And I will continue to steer people away from them. and there cheezy products who cares if there customer service is good. If you ask me its a big hassle to have to keep sending things back and fourth it cost for one. Get the darn product right before you start selling it. period Dave

[Steve Guinn]

Bugs?

I must have missed something. Been flying 3 MS 4's since their release and have had no problems (except for the antenna falling off).

Loving my Phx 25's, too.

[unclecrash]

you must not do much reading here in the forums every day I read of someones pheonix 25 or 45or 80 cooked. You didnt miss your antenna falling off? Dave

[Steve Guinn]

Nah, don't miss it. That antenna was unsightly. The airplane looks much better now.

Every day I read of car wrecks with mangled bodies and steel.
I'm still driving my car.

[unclecrash]

Let me guess you only own one cc25. You must not surf the site very much if you dont see all the problems people are having. The antenna should not fall off just from unwrapping it. They probably didnt solder it. Like channel 4 on my berg. and it must be a coincedence that my other berg did exactly like the other guys just decided to go into a death roll with no control to the ground and they were both freaking out when we got to the plane. Gee maybe you work for castle or something. dave

[Steve Guinn]

Wrong on all counts, Dave.

I have 2 Phoenix 25's, a Phoenix 10, pixie 20, Thunderbird 18, E-flight 20, Hacker Master 35 and a few others. I mention the non-CC brands just so you know I have something to compare them to.

Antenna was soldered just fine. I flexed it one too many times. Granted, this is a problem that needs attention, along with the crystal socket, but these are problems easily cured by the end user. What do you want for 30 bucks?

Nope, not affiliated with the Castle.

[Dukester]

Ask yourself how many threads you have seen that said:

"I bought a new X from vendor Y and it works right."

Its typical that most of the threads you read are complaints because people who don't have problems typically don't take time to post about their lack of problems.

I also have had great luck with CC products. 4 of the new Berg MS4s, 2 PH25s, 1 PH35, and 2 Tbird 18s.

Duke

[unclecrash]

Wrong on all counts, Dave.

I have 2 Phoenix 25's, a Phoenix 10, pixie 20, Thunderbird 18, E-flight 20, Hacker Master 35 and a few others. I mention the non-CC brands just so you know I have something to compare them to.

Antenna was soldered just fine. I flexed it one too many times. Granted, this is a problem that needs attention, along with the crystal socket, but these are problems easily cured by the end user. What do you want for 30 bucks?

Nope, not affiliated with the Castle.

A product I can put in my plane and know that it wont crash. A product thats built right the first time. Hacker should not even be compared with cc way better product. The end user should not have to do the work for the company that sells the product. The socket is the worst I have seen so far on the market. Ive had better luck with gws recievers.

[unclecrash]

Wrong on all counts, Dave.

I have 2 Phoenix 25's, a Phoenix 10, pixie 20, Thunderbird 18, E-flight 20, Hacker Master 35 and a few others. I mention the non-CC brands just so you know I have something to compare them to.

Antenna was soldered just fine. I flexed it one too many times. Granted, this is a problem that needs attention, along with the crystal socket, but these are problems easily cured by the end user. What do you want for 30 bucks?

Nope, not affiliated with the Castle.

A product I can put in my plane and know that it wont crash. A product thats built right the first time. Hacker should not even be compared with cc way better product. The end user should not have to do the work for the company that sells the product. The socket is the worst I have seen so far on the market. Ive had better luck with gws recievers.
you guys got your blinders on or something fly it with no antenna right out of range. you are probably also not running them past a couple amps.

[vespa]

I gotta agree with you, uncle. The Berg 4L is the best reciever I've ever used and I won't buy anything else. I currently have about a dozen of them in use and they outperform everything else on the market. But Castle apparently took the lowest bid and got stuck with a pretty lousy manufacturer. Hopefully it's just a 1 year contract and they will retool soon.
The antenna is soldered fine but the wire is not the correct type for flexible installation. It will break right at the joint every time - it absolutely must be replaced with proper wire before use.
The crystal socket is actually just a standard electronics pin socket, not appropriate for that mounting angle or the thin legs of a crystal. I have had several of these sockets fail, requiring me to solder the crystal directly.
I usually remove the servo headers anyway but I have noticed a few that were very weakly attached. It's a tricky soldering job so I am not surprised, and I really can't think of any better way to do it.
Finally, that big white filter or whatever it is that dangles from those little leads and practically gets torn off when I remove the heat shrink. I hate that! I always glue it down but still I sometimes manage to forget when unwrapping a new receiver and I nearly rip it right off.
Anyway, with some wire, a socket, and a drop of glue, this receiver can be perfect. As a hobbiest, I have no trouble doing that but I certainly hope that Castle can resolve these issues soon.

[unclecrash]

I gotta agree with you, uncle. The Berg 4L is the best reciever I've ever used and I won't buy anything else. I currently have about a dozen of them in use and they outperform everything else on the market. But Castle apparently took the lowest bid and got stuck with a pretty lousy manufacturer. Hopefully it's just a 1 year contract and they will retool soon.
The antenna is soldered fine but the wire is not the correct type for flexible installation. It will break right at the joint every time - it absolutely must be replaced with proper wire before use.
The crystal socket is actually just a standard electronics pin socket, not appropriate for that mounting angle or the thin legs of a crystal. I have had several of these sockets fail, requiring me to solder the crystal directly.
I usually remove the servo headers anyway but I have noticed a few that were very weakly attached. It's a tricky soldering job so I am not surprised, and I really can't think of any better way to do it.
Finally, that big white filter or whatever it is that dangles from those little leads and practically gets torn off when I remove the heat shrink. I hate that! I always glue it down but still I sometimes manage to forget when unwrapping a new receiver and I nearly rip it right off.
Anyway, with some wire, a socket, and a drop of glue, this receiver can be perfect. As a hobbiest, I have no trouble doing that but I certainly hope that Castle can resolve these issues soon.


Thankyou try to tell it to the guys hanging in the castle forum I think one guy told me he has three or four bergs all work awsome. but he neglected to say if they were the old or new ones. I heard the old ones were bullet proof. So I quoted him on it just to see. I bet money they are the old ones. The servo headers how are you doing them are you just soldering plugs to them. I too am mechanically fit but it just erks me to see them putting out all this bad stuff and then you get well just send it back and we will fix it. I never here them saying the will pay to ship it back to them though for the people that dont know how to solder this could get expensive if you have to keep shipping there stuff back and forth.Edit: did you hear about the guy who bought two cc80esc for warthog fried them doing taxi test grantid there service department is good and quick sent him two more flew it one time with the two new ones and they fried. I know for fact he switched to jeti advanced and they are working fine. 2 at 180 buck Im curious if he sent the other two back and asked for refund. Dave

[CoastalFlyer]

I've been flying 3 Berg 4L's since they were first released. Bulletproof.

[unclecrash]

I've been flying 3 Berg 4L's since they were first released. Bulletproof.

wrong bulletproof to me means no problems not loose crystals antenna falling off stories of planes locking you out slamming the ground get to it motor running low rpm plug it back in and it seems to work only to fly it again and have it do exactly the same thing that to me is not bullet proof. Ive had better luck with a electron 6 and for that matter my little gws has done me better than the berg. no probs. I bought two 4L"s and both have issues.

[Steve Guinn]

Do you really believe I am flying my beloved CC Berg without the antenna? :confused:

That was a joke... I say, that was a joke, son.

[unclecrash]

Bugs?

I must have missed something. Been flying 3 MS 4's since their release and have had no problems (except for the antenna falling off).

Loving my Phx 25's, too.

I think thats what we refer to as a bug the antenna falling off. the loose crystals I think that might be called a bug . People flying and all of a sudden no control over the plane piled up when you get there its running low rpm gee maybe this is a bug it did the same exact thing to me twice. Wait till your antenna falls off and your plane is sitting in front of you maybe then you will consider some of these bugs. Dave

[unclecrash]

[QUOTE=Steve Guinn]Do you really believe I am flying my beloved CC Berg without the antenna? No I would no better than that I think you would bedoing laps real close around your head. :) ;)

[Steve Guinn]

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[unclecrash]

:) Edit bad manners

[Steve Guinn]

That is the best reply you can come up with?

You are now relegated to my "ignore" list.

[unclecrash]

edit harsh words

[unclecrash]

edit harsh words

[unclecrash]

Edit harsh words

[CoastalFlyer]

wrong bulletproof to me means no problems not loose crystals antenna falling off stories of planes locking you out slamming the ground get to it motor running low rpm plug it back in and it seems to work only to fly it again and have it do exactly the same thing that to me is not bullet proof. Ive had better luck with a electron 6 and for that matter my little gws has done me better than the berg. no probs. I bought two 4L"s and both have issues.Can we have that in English? :eek:

As I said, I had no issues with mine.

[unclecrash]

Learn how to read or go back to school. Gee maybe yours was built just for you with special parts doubt it. So that means you have the loose socket and antenna that will fall off in a matter of time. Hopefully while your aways out. So you can see what it does to your plane whenit piles in like mine did.

[Steve Guinn]

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[Steve Guinn]

But I will not read his PM's.

[unclecrash]

You know I really dont care I am not going to keep this off topic discussion going. Im sure you read it and if you didnt maybe you should . Your name calling is childish so grow up. Be a man you may fine it worth while to read the PM LOL :) PS If the Moderators want to let you get away with name calling. Then they shouldnt edit my posts for doing it back. Dave

[infopimp]

troll alert

[Steve Guinn]

Nope, didn't read it.

Tell me this... where did I call you a name?

[unclecrash]

Hmmm I guess you didnt :)

[unclecrash]

troll alert I was on topic talking about berg product. Check out all my threads I bother no body who doesnt bother me.
:)

[Steve Guinn]

Like I said just read the PM
Nope, not gonna and you can't make me (sticks out tongue). :p
So there.

I'm off to polish my wonderful Bergs.

[CoastalFlyer]

You must spend all your time on RCG whining about this one subject.....in multiple threads, no less. :rolleyes:

If you don't like the product, don't buy it. CC has thousands of other, quite satisfied customers.

BTW, he wrote me a childish PM, then put me on his ignore list so I couldn't respond. Apparently he prefers one way discussions. Given that, why he'd choose to participate here is beyond my understanding. I guess he wants everyone to hear his point of view but doesn't want to hear anyone elses. Strange.....

[Eric_N57105]

If you don't like the product, don't buy it. CC has thousands of other, quite satisfied customers.



Yep. I have three of the Berg 4L's. Very nice. The antenna came off the first one. It was on a Slow Stick. Someone trying to help picked up my SS not realizing he was stepping on the antenna wire. Other than that, they have been solid.

I set up two transmitters on the same frequency, my Optic 6 and the cheapy 6 channel that came with my Blade CP microheli. The Berg tended to lock onto whichever one was strongest at the time and ignored the other. Pretty cool.

I haven't had any problems with the crystals, but I always tape my crystals in no matter what receiver it is. I haven't looked at the crystal "holder". If it is just made from two machined pins, that would be fine with me. I've used them with wire lead crystals for years in low power ham gear, and they are good enough in high end IC sockets.

No complaints about Berg receivers and I'm sure mine are the new type whatever difference that makes.

Eric
www.ke6us.com

[unclecrash]

You must spend all your time on RCG whining about this one subject.....in multiple threads, no less. :rolleyes:

If you don't like the product, don't buy it. CC has thousands of other, quite satisfied customers.

BTW, he wrote me a childish PM, then put me on his ignore list so I couldn't respond. Apparently he prefers one way discussions. Given that, why he'd choose to participate here is beyond my understanding. I guess he wants everyone to hear his point of view but doesn't want to hear anyone elses. Strange.....

What do ya call what you are doing trolling back and fourth looking for an arguement. Telling me my english is bad calling me names. Did I call you names before you started taking stabs at me.That seems to be all the old folks do in hear. Like I said Im done with Castles Product. I got My 5 bucks and thats done. Like I said you people floor me when you come in and attack people just to fuel the fire. I still dont see how you say the berg is Bullet proof. I was just reading some more threads that castle them self said it has bugs there seems to me there is as many people who are having trouble as are happy with them.What am I the only one who cant speek my mind about Castle products. Without being called names and have cheap shots took at me. Keep polishing your berg your likely to rub the antenna off Heck the way I see it everybody is whining about something here or there. The whole castle forum is nothing but complaints and people whining about there products. I dont think I took any cheap shots at you guys until you did it to me I try to stay with the topic. If you want to take cheap shots maybe you guys should not post here and there. I still think you should check the pm
:p ;) :) I think your scared I put a cheap shot on you :) not so maybe a sorry but you will never no. Dave

[Steve Guinn]

Dave,

I did not read the PM and am not going to because I don't want to be sorry for what I am about to do.

I am truely sorry for giving you a rough time. I thought you were being unreasonable with CC's resolution attempt and this sort of angered me.

I bet we would get along in person.

Again, I'm sorry,
Steve

[unclecrash]

Yep. I have three of the Berg 4L's. Very nice. The antenna came off the first one. It was on a Slow Stick. Someone trying to help picked up my SS not realizing he was stepping on the antenna wire. Other than that, they have been solid.

I set up two transmitters on the same frequency, my Optic 6 and the cheapy 6 channel that came with my Blade CP microheli. The Berg tended to lock onto whichever one was strongest at the time and ignored the other. Pretty cool.

I haven't had any problems with the crystals, but I always tape my crystals in no matter what receiver it is. I haven't looked at the crystal "holder". If it is just made from two machined pins, that would be fine with me. I've used them with wire lead crystals for years in low power ham gear, and they are good enough in high end IC sockets.

No complaints about Berg receivers and I'm sure mine are the new type whatever difference that makes.

Eric
www.ke6us.com

Check post number 18 heres a guy who agree's with me on the sockets and antenna manufactured by the cheapist company. Yes he likes them but you still need to do things to make them right. I can fix the problems but I would like to see them come in one piece. My second one channel four was not even soldered. The electrons 6 I have flown for about 6 or so years I have about 8 and never have had one glitch or lose a plane to any of them. Put my gliders in the clouds to you cant see them and no problems. Dave

[Dukester]

I'll still stand behind CC. 4 of the new version Berg 4's and not a single problem, no antenna issues, crystals not loose, no lock outs. Nothing but excellent performance. Run in fast electrics, 3D electrics, 1/2a glow fast ones, and bigger glow engines.

I've even accidentally stepped on the antenna on one of them a few times picking up the plane it's in and it hasn't come loose yet.

I would have no qualms recommending them to other modelers.
Duke

[unclecrash]

And I am sorry for the things I said to you. That is what I said in the part of the Pm. I can understand you being angry about what I did in the other forum. But like I said when I see a couple people having words thats between the two parties I dont like to jump in the middle. Just like the other thousand people who looked and did not come in and say a thing. Like I said my sincere appoliges for are squabbles and like I said this is the first time in two ywars that I have had any problems in the forums. Hope we can agree on some things in the future. Dave

[Steve Guinn]

:) cool

[unclecrash]

I'll still stand behind CC. 4 of the new version Berg 4's and not a single problem, no antenna issues, crystals not loose, no lock outs. Nothing but excellent performance. Run in fast electrics, 3D electrics, 1/2a glow fast ones, and bigger glow engines.

I've even accidentally stepped on the antenna on one of them a few times picking up the plane it's in and it hasn't come loose yet.

I would have no qualms recommending them to other modelers.
Duke

Its niceto hear some peoples are working proper. I wish I could say the same for mine. Well the one I soldered I have flown for about ten minutes without anyfurther problem. I cant say the same for the other it did the same thing twice like another person stated. I have the plane back together and I will see what happens I did one thing different I ran the antenna out on the outside of the plane instead of down through the fuse. dave

[unclecrash]

Hey Duke I was wondering how long have you been using them. I wonder if they might have changed the antenna or crystal holder. I purchased mine around mid April. Dave Are yours the shrinkwrap I think 4L

[Dukester]

I think the last one I bought around May, but the other three I bought in late 2005, just don't remember which months.

Also 3 are using the crystal that goes with it and 1 is running one of the GWS UM1 crystals.

Duke

[Denile]

My Berg 4L with one of azar's base loaded antenna's works great and its the new one, I also have 7 various CC ESC's and no problems yet. For now im content with the CC products I own and will not hezitate to purchase more. This thread has more negative posts from the same person (and they all say the same thing over and over again) as any other iv'e read. Some of the most childish behavior iv'e seen in a long time.

[Steve Guinn]

Let it rest.