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fly4fun
Jun 19, 2006, 02:12 PM
I have had AFPD pro for over a year now and can do many aerobatics that I'm still chicken to do it with a real airplane. So is AFPD doing me any good???? Sometimes I wonder!!!!!!!! Sorry for the Rant.
nose-over
Jun 19, 2006, 02:32 PM
It's helping your orientation and stick movements, but thats all. AFPD is not as realistic as people would have you believe. The sim makes maneuvers way to easy to do giving you a sense of accomplishment when in reality all it's doing is making you an awesome "arcade game" flyer. It's great for teaching someone to "fly" in general but thats all I'd expect from it. GREAT GAME THOUGH!
fly4fun
Jun 19, 2006, 02:40 PM
The problem is Crash Factor with GAME vs Real Life. Real life cost me $$$$$, but game = start over button.
Trisquire
Jun 19, 2006, 03:15 PM
You can make it harder by setting the speed higher than 100%.
Tom
bluesky123
Jun 19, 2006, 03:18 PM
Don't be afraid to fly a real R/C plane! You'll be surprized--the plane will fly just like it does in the simulator. There's only one thing, which may be different between the real life and simulator: plane set-up, i.e. how the motor is running, what are the control surface travels, etc. Ask some experienced guy from your local R/C club to examine your plane before the first flight and, once the pre-flight checks are all ok, take it to the air.
I learned flying planes by practicing with RealFlight G2 for several months. Then, I took my UltraStick 40 to the field and let the instructor check the plane and to adjust the engine (I couldn't have adjusted the engine myself). Then I flew without any problems, it was even easier than in the simulator!
Boris
nose-over
Jun 19, 2006, 04:43 PM
Yes, if your going to go out and fly an ultra stick 40 then yes it will help....if your taking your 33% Extra 330 out to the field to do rolling harriers for the first time because you've mastered them in the simulator, then I hope I own the hobby shop that you buy planes from.$$$$$$$$$
fly4fun
Jun 19, 2006, 06:03 PM
By any means I'm not a Begginer. Look at my Post Count Hee Hee :) What bothers me I can 3D Ect Ect inches from the ground in a simulator with out fear. When I'm flying Real RC, I just cannot get myself to do the aerobatics like I do in the sim. I was hoping the Sim would get me better at flying Real RC. This just doesn't seem the Case.
Tweener
Jun 19, 2006, 07:24 PM
Yeah, it's just fear factor. I can do a WOT pass down the runway at a 2 - 3' altitude over and over in RFG2, but when I'm flying my baby I can't push it down to more than about 12 - 15'! :rolleyes: I'm comfortable at 2 mistakes high, when it used to be 3 or 4; but it's going to be a while before I get to 1 and even longer before I can bring myself to flirt with a "no mistakes" altitude. ;)
Trisquire
Jun 19, 2006, 07:58 PM
Not even QuiQue Somenzini flies that low. :)
chippy
Jun 20, 2006, 02:42 PM
Is practice with a foamy more beneficial than a sim? I think that a real life experience will teach you more than a video game.
Trisquire
Jun 20, 2006, 04:05 PM
A crash with a foamy has "real world consequences" so it is beneficial. I use a sim to learn foamies. I would try to become proficient with the foamy before progressing to something bigger.
Tom
Tweener
Jun 20, 2006, 06:49 PM
Is practice with a foamy more beneficial than a sim? I think that a real life experience will teach you more than a video game.I found this definition of simulator: a computer program that simulates a real-world situation. Although simulators can be games, I have never thought of my RC flight simulators this way. They are software tools that are getting better at reproducing the real world physics of model flight with every new release. I have flown with a buddy-box but once in the three years since I started this hobby and all the major crashes I've had (3) have been caused by an equipment failure of some kind. :D If it weren't for the sims, I would quite possibly have given up on the hobby because my crash rate would have been much higher. ;)
TDisaster
Jun 23, 2006, 11:51 PM
they should have eqiptmentt failure in sims, lol!
pmackenzie
Jun 24, 2006, 12:04 AM
Pick one of your "SIM" manoeuvres to try on the real plane.
Practise high and then do the same thing on the sim.
The two will re-enforce each other.
Fine tune the Sim to fly more like the model.
Keep at it until you have added it to your list of things you feel comfortable doing.
Of course this only works if you have a good flying model.
Even though I can do way more on the sim than in real life, if I follow this approach I get better.
If I just go out and repeat all the stuff I already know, then I stagnate.
Pat MacKenzie
dogbert
Jun 24, 2006, 07:16 AM
they should have eqiptmentt failure in sims, lol!
You can on AFPD - in the 'GAME' change the transmitter reliability down!
Tweener
Jun 24, 2006, 10:17 AM
they should have eqiptmentt failure in sims, lol!I'm still flying with RealFlight G2 which can not only be set to simulate failures, but you can select the types and the frequency with which they occur.
fly4fun
Jun 26, 2006, 10:31 AM
Pick one of your "SIM" manoeuvres to try on the real plane.
Practise high and then do the same thing on the sim.
The two will re-enforce each other.
Fine tune the Sim to fly more like the model.
Keep at it until you have added it to your list of things you feel comfortable doing.
Of course this only works if you have a good flying model.
Even though I can do way more on the sim than in real life, if I follow this approach I get better.
If I just go out and repeat all the stuff I already know, then I stagnate.
Pat MacKenzie
Sounds like a good Idea. Thanks.
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