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Gary Warner
May 24, 2006, 12:35 PM
Hi All,

New product: YTV Cycler 3 - servo driver and cycler

(Edit 9/22/06) New Web Site at www.york-electronics.com (http://www.york-electronics.com)

I've been working on a servo cycler and driver and have now released version 3. Many ezone members have purchased my first versions and it was a great success. I have now improved the cycler/driver based on wish list input. The new versions are selling for $20 + $3 SH (USA).

If you use servos, you'll love this cycler/driver. Here's what it does:

Instant dead center (1.5ms) that does not drift.

Move and hold to any position from .8ms to 2.2ms. (+/- 120% range)

LED's alert to adjustments made outside normal limits (<1ms and >2ms)

Sweep from end to end at 9 speeds - from 45 seconds per sweep to faster than most servos can keep up with.

End-points for the sweep can be user programmable with memory after power is cut off.

The cycler/driver features:

Drive up to 4 servos at the same time.

Protected pins in hoods to prevent shorting.

Interface is 3 buttons and 2 LED's.

Micro controller accuracy and repeatability.

Small size - 1.6" x 1.2" - about the size of a box of matches.

Any set of pins can be the battery or a servo port.

Operation voltage from 2.5 volts to 12 volts (but your servo won't like 12 volts ;) )

Adjustable sweep end-points so if a servo is already installed you won't bind up the mechanics. End points memorized in non-volatile memory and one button to reset sweep range to factory range.


Possible uses:

Find dead center of servo before attaching servo arms for installation. Also, allows for a chance to center a control surface to the center of the servo position.

Adjust position to see if deflection meets requirements. Shows if the correct servo arm and control horn holes are being used.

By setting the end-point sweep limits to your application, you can automate a control surface animation without binding up the mechanics.

Using the sweep speed adjustment, you can slow the servo to a miniscule speed and identify and binding in the mechanics.

Test your servos if they are new. This is a must. Setup a medium speed sweep at the full range to check for gearing problems. Run the sweep for about 3-5 minutes to bring the interior temperature up to max. This can identify problems with drive circuits in servo.

In the sweep mode, you can load the servo arm with your fingers to 'feel' if the torque is normal and what's required (use reasonable caution as to not hurt the servo). The current handling of the cycler/driver will by far exceed the typical battery and servo wires - you won't overload this cycler/driver.

In slow sweep modes, you can identify poor/bad servos. Some findings customers have found are gears not allowing full range of movement, especially after replacing a gear set, damaged gear teeth that were previously not known, servo driver electronics getting weak after getting warm in extended sweep tests and much more. Though not reported yet, you can assume to identify noisy pots, weak torque maybe in one direction only, large difference in same model servos in speed or torque or differences in displaced servo arm angles among similar servos.

You can drive ESC's. That's right! Bench test your e-motor system without using a transmitter and receiver. Because this cycler/driver uses correct PWM logic, Adjusting to the "Down" normal range limit will arm an ESC that is still in the factory program condition. The sweep, end-points and speed adjustments allows for testing the ESC for smoothness and response across the full range. Or, simply press the up or down buttons to set and hold the desired motor speed. One word of caution: Although this cycler/driver can be used to run an ESC, it was not part of the intended uses. Caution needs to be used as to not press any buttons while the ESC is armed unless you are ready for the motor to respond. For example, accidentally pressing the 'center' switch after the ESC has armed will immediately run the motor at 50% throttle. All safe use of motors and ESC's must be exercised and use of the "SERVO" driver as an ESC driver is at the users own risk.

A good place to use the cycler functions with end-point adjustments would be in animating landing gear and gear doors. The slow but smooth drive can allow you to see binding or ill timed mechanics.

By driving two servos at a time, aileron setups can be a snap.

Since any set pf pins can be battery or servo, you an orient the controller to the most convenient position when dealing with servos that are already installed in you plane.

I like this one! A customer at the University of Southern California used the rock steady 1.5ms center drive to drive the input of an off-the-shelf RC Gyro for a stand alone stabilization system.

Come up with your own ideas on how to use this cycler/driver. I'm sure that there are many more uses than listed here.

Again, they are fully assembled, easy to learn and easy to use. They are made on top quality PCB's and use quality parts - and they are made here in the USA (and who say's we don't make anything anymore?) The current price is $20 + $3 shipping and handling.

To order one, contact Gary Warner at warner1@airmail.net and put Cycler in the heading. You can respond here or with PM but for best service, please use the e-mail address or call 972-418-9000. I can accept Visa/Master Card checks and money orders.

Thanks for reading about this new product. Any comments about product are welcome in this thread.

Gary Warner
warner1@airmail.net
York Electronics
1005 S. Josey LN, Suite 208
Carrollton Tx 75006
972-418-9000

feathermerchant
May 24, 2006, 04:10 PM
Got any pics?
I'm in Euless. Still 3$ shipping?

Gary Warner
May 24, 2006, 04:35 PM
Got any pics?
I'm in Euless. Still 3$ shipping?
Yes. It takes as much time to prep and ship as it does to populate the boards. You can consider coming by the shop in Carrollton and I'll wave the shipping costs. Call first. 972-418-9000

Also, I forgot to mention that Texas sales are subject to 8.25% sales tax (I'm a 'real' business ;) )

Pics in the posted link for the Operators Manual.

(feathermerchant knows this - he called - info for others)

Gary
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spinnetti
May 25, 2006, 12:12 PM
looks interesting, but in the pic there its not clear where things plug in?

Also, sometimes its nice to have analog controls for direct control.. Whats the benefit of the 'digital' interface?

Thanks,

Gary Warner
May 25, 2006, 01:26 PM
looks interesting, but in the pic there its not clear where things plug in?

Also, sometimes its nice to have analog controls for direct control.. Whats the benefit of the 'digital' interface?

Thanks,

The pins for plugging in the battery and servo are on the upper back facing to the right and left (2 sets of pins on each side).

Agree about the analog control. It was decided that switches were to be used based on size, packaging, costs and the fact that once you use it, there's no need for the analog control. I understand that many people like that hand-eye response thing.

My friend and I build a lot of planes and we didn't have any desire to go back to the Ace Servo Driver (Analog that drifts center with changing battery voltages and a one-fits-all sweep mode) that was accidentally burned up. This was the real reason I came up with this driver. I think it was worded like (Arnold) "Damn, I just smoked the servo driver by plugging the battery in backwards and my transmitter is at home." (Gary) "I can build a servo centering PIC in 10 minutes.", and I did. As time went on it expanded to the current state. Analog was touched on from time to time but was always dismissed as we are very happy with this driver using switches.

It has been discussed to use AD converter analog control for a version that was dedicated to ESC driving with many enhanced safety features. But that's a project for another day.

Gary
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spinnetti
May 25, 2006, 08:05 PM
The pins for plugging in the battery and servo are on the upper back facing to the right and left (2 sets of pins on each side).

Agree about the analog control. It was decided that switches were to be used based on size, packaging, costs and the fact that once you use it, there's no need for the analog control. I understand that many people like that hand-eye response thing.

My friend and I build a lot of planes and we didn't have any desire to go back to the Ace Servo Driver (Analog that drifts center with changing battery voltages and a one-fits-all sweep mode) that was accidentally burned up. This was the real reason I came up with this driver. I think it was worded like (Arnold) "Damn, I just smoked the servo driver by plugging the battery in backwards and my transmitter is at home." (Gary) "I can build a servo centering PIC in 10 minutes.", and I did. As time went on it expanded to the current state. Analog was touched on from time to time but was always dismissed as we are very happy with this driver using switches.

It has been discussed to use AD converter analog control for a version that was dedicated to ESC driving with many enhanced safety features. But that's a project for another day.

Gary
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Thanks for the update...

bernardbryce
Jul 25, 2006, 09:55 PM
Hi
Im trying to get a RC Bruchless motor to run a small drill (for a CNC machine for wax.. A unit with an analog control would be great for a lot of little projects!!
Bernard

Gary Warner
Jul 26, 2006, 12:50 PM
Hi
Im trying to get a RC Bruchless motor to run a small drill (for a CNC machine for wax.. A unit with an analog control would be great for a lot of little projects!!
Bernard
I might recommend this driver from Astro Flight (http://www.astroflight.com/e/env/0001zURmu7gMan8zjk1m011/store/store-Chargers.html?link=/store/store-type-tem.html&item=products:af-105) for the same price. It has the analog control you are looking for, but next to nothing for additional features, like ours has. In the works is a version we are making that is dedicated to driving ESC's. It will have a slide style control or 't-bar' style handle (think throttle on a jet airplane) and lots of built in safety features. We are currently sourcing controls at a reasonable price.

Gary
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