Aeroace tag

[rchawks]

I flew for the first time with a friend from work tonight. He bought a Aeroace I modified yesterday. It was a blast. I ended up in a tall tree :eek: but to just so happened one of the neighbor kids lost a hardball in my lot and he used it to knock my aa out of the tall limb. I was ready on the transmitter and continued the flight when it fell out. Someone mentioned using a wrist rocket slingshot and a lead sinker with fishing line to retrive their planes. I think for me that will become standard supplies to carry when I fly the aa.
There was several near misses while we were flying and I thought I heard props connecting although no visible damage could be found. At one point I happen to just land my plane when I heard him say "there it goes" it was in a thermal and flying off, I ran over to him a took the transmitter and flew the plane back :D Yeah, I was thinking about what a good pilot I am then I remembered the tree I was 30 feet in not ten min. before, lol. Trees can be you worst enemy while flying this plane, but that's where the fun is! ;)

[may-day]

my buddy and i fly both of my planes. we play tag and try to land in each others hand or what so ever happens to be a round. i like to fly on windy days in my apartments. you can get the little planes to almost sit in place. awesome fun and without a doubt the best $32.43 money can buy. :) we've had to climb a roof or basketball a tree a time or two but oh well. anyway, enjoy these little planes.

[duceduc]

I flew the AA for the first time late this evening. I must say, it is a handful with only 3 channels. I still need to work out the bugs. The plane wants to pitch up with throttle.

[rchawks]

Your best bet to deal with the porposing effect is to gently pull motors loose shim the back to provide downthrust. One thing to remember is when the battery is fully charged it will zoom even at the lowest setting, but as batt. wears down it will dampen to a more level flight path. :D

[Offroadbear]

I just got one yesterday as something to putt around with at my apartment complex. I tacky-glued a piece of leftover fleece to the nose, and left most of the decals off. It added enough weight to balance it at the quarter-chord. It still porposes a little at high throttle, but climbs well in no wind conditions, with a little wind, it will climb well.

These little electrics are new to me, I am a glow flyer. rchawks, what did you use to shim the motors, little pieces of balsa, or just more double sided tape. How much? Thanks. Yes it is the best use of $32 ever.

[rchawks]

I used some balsa triangle stock ( aileron stock trailing edge side ) about 1/8 deep. No weight in the nose. In my opinion if the plane glides slightly nose down with pwr off nose weight is counter productive. Thrust angle and throttle management is the key ( my opinion ). Removing the throttle spring is a must!! Remove all seven screws and unscrew the ant. remove screw and washer then spring. Reassemble. Be very careful how you pull the motor loose with a finger on either side of the mount. Do it slowly and it will come loose. Enough sticky left to reattach. Watch that the prop dosn't cut into the lower wing when you do this mod. Most ppl say keep the thrust line parr. with the fuse and some say slightly toe in. By the way, don't forget to remove your transmitter batteries, if you leave them in when not in use they will slowly discharge to uselessness.

[mike glass]

I'm on my forth and I have a quick fix that makes the plane fly great.
Just cut appox. 1/4 off a penny and make a slit in the nose on the bottom. Slip the 3/4 of the penny in and your done. The plane will need just a touch of down trim and will fly level at low throttle settings and still climb at full.

I just love these little planes :D

Mike

[duceduc]

Options, options, options. Mike, you did this 'quick fix' only and not the downward thrust and it works?

[mike glass]

Yes Sir,
That all you need to do to get it flying very nicely.

Mike

[rchawks]

It's worth a try!! Thanks mike.


I don't know who to credit it for, but I read somewhere that a 2' piece of videotape taped under the back part of the fuse, just ahead of the tail boom eliminates the porposing ("phugoid motion" in scientific terms). I tried it and it works great, with the additional benefit of looking pretty cool with the little streamer tailing along. I was able to remove the nose weight I had previously added as well.

The above is quoted from flew2high.

[duceduc]

It's worth a try!! Thanks mike.


I don't know who to credit it for, but I read somewhere that a 2' piece of videotape taped under the back part of the fuse, just ahead of the tail boom eliminates the porposing ("phugoid motion" in scientific terms). I tried it and it works great, with the additional benefit of looking pretty cool with the little streamer tailing along. I was able to remove the nose weight I had previously added as well.

The above is quoted from flew2high.
You got a picture for this videotape position? I've tried shimming the motors with no success. It porposes even more.

[rchawks]

I'm sorry, in no way did I want to miss lead you. It's easy to remove the shims and put it back like it was. I stumbbled across the thread above just a few min ago and I'm going to try it tonight. Here's some pics. I matched the video tape with the molding mark. If this works as well as it seems I'll be removing my shims as well!!!!
I found this imformation under the thread "Anyone use the aeroace mods hold clip"

[duceduc]

so it's like a streamer. I am gluing back the motors like it was. No worries about missing leading. Trial and errors is all. Thx for the tips.

[rchawks]

I tried the tape fix. It showed a big difference in the handling. Dampens things quite a bit. I took two aa's out. Both taped. One shimmed the other stock. I noticed more zooming with the unshimmed one. Both showed a big improvement though. Well worth the mod. I think I will leave both of them the way they are and use the tape. Should be alot of fun the next combat session!!

[duceduc]

I will try the tape. Just came back flying the AA with no shim and alittle rock as weight. AA still propose but much better w/o the down thurst mod. I will give it ago with the tape tom.

[rchawks]

I think some of the variables from plane to plane could be the internal location (placement) of the battery. Even the placement of the motors at the factory can vary in placement some, toe in ect. I've tried using nose weight to dampen the porposing, the first tweek actually and it didn't work in my case at all. I used several different types of weights. All cause a nose heavy condition. The shimming of the motors help some but was not a cure all. Only some. The tape however is a stroke of genuis, really noticable change in the behavour. A little draggy but I guess that's why it works so well. I never had any problem getting the airplane too high with this mod. Flight time was about the same and so much more enjoyable. Give it a shot!
Thank you flew2high!!!

[bronney]

I am going flying this Saturday *fingers crossed for no winds* and will take some footage on the tape mod. I will bring tapes and do vids of different lengths. I've tried the tape so far on the eagle wing and it seems to help a bit as in dampening the turn radius. But more weight balance help came from the straw mod I suspect.

I've avoided tweaking the elevators and rudders until there's absolutely nothing left to do. But so far the bi-planes are doing great.

I will tape the 2 bi-planes and give it a go Saturday. They're both identical and handles identically stock. The motors placements are also very close. So it should give a nice platform for tests.

I've to sneak this in though, anyone know how I can go about extending the new all foam monoplane's antenna? It seems embeded inside the foam body :(

[Unyon]

On both the sport and fury models, the antenna is seated in a slit running the length of the fuse, which wasnt even glued on mine.
You should see the end of the antenna poking out the tail by about 1mm... I havent tried extending mine, but I imagine some gentle tugging (down, along the slit, not 'back') should give you enough to solder onto without melting the EPP.

A friend lost his Fury today... the wind just picked it up and stole it... depositing it on the opposite side of a fenced off railway! Poor guy :(

[Corbin_Dallas]

On both the sport and fury models, the antenna is seated in a slit running the length of the fuse, which wasnt even glued on mine.
You should see the end of the antenna poking out the tail by about 1mm... I havent tried extending mine, but I imagine some gentle tugging (down, along the slit, not 'back') should give you enough to solder onto without melting the EPP.

A friend lost his Fury today... the wind just picked it up and stole it... depositing it on the opposite side of a fenced off railway! Poor guy :(

FENCE!?? :eek: ....JUST A FENCE :confused: ......IF THAT WAS MY PLANE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS "FENCE"........well, let's just say......

I would OWN that :censored: fence man!!! The day a fence stops me from

retrieving something of mine (with no apparent danger or official in sight),

is the day the thing that makes me - (v)e ceases to be. ;) :D


>>you shoulda just slowly turned towards ur friend when u 2 were leavin, stopped, & when he turned to look at you, you stare at him for a second,

then slowly turn ur head back toward that fence & then back toward him and calmly say sumthin' like: "So that's it?.... You just gonna let that plane go? Take it as a loss?.........Get owned by that :censored: fence!?! " :p

I'm guessing that must be one Immense Fence, cause only some MASSIVE Black Gate (Lord Of The Rings) type of thing could keep me from my plane(s) ;) :)

-(v)att-

[Unyon]

hahaha. I like your posts, Corbin :)

Actually, I'm sure he's found it by now... I had to head home, and left him to it as he was working late.

But... it was a very big fence, followed by a 40ft embankment, then the railway tracks, then some unknown field beyond :P

I think next time he'll listen to me when I say "dude.. they dont fly well in 15mpg+ winds!"

[bronney]

then some unknown field beyond Unyon thanks for the antenna tip. I don't get much chance to fly the sports as that plane likes to climb and glide TOO well to get lost. That why I have to try tomorrow as I got a bigger field in mind. Hence the extension precaution :)

Unknown fields sound scary in your post. Is there an AREA 51 in Harrogate? haha. I found a VCR tape mod from another thread basically taping a long VCR tape to the base of the fuse. This tape I found is very useful when determining wind (besides looking at the leaves). I found that if the leaves move, the X-Twin's don't fly well. But that's not to say it can't fly, it's actually more fun but let's just say it isn't smooth ovals. Hovering's cool though but 15mph is inshane!.

[Unyon]

Actually, there IS an American spy base just outside Harrogate (http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/Organizations/Echelon/images/echelon.jpg)
...but it's probably wise not to intrude on their airspace :D