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Wetafly

Apr 09, 2006, 05:08 AM

Hi Everyone
Great new forum.
I have been really liking the look of the Futurion. No plans will be available and out here in New Zealand no kits will either. Soooo using freely available web info I have drawn my own interpretation of the model and called it CIRKUS in acknowledgement to the original designer. The model doesnt seem to be a radical departure from existing designs just nice styling and the undercarriage. Will print the plans tomorrow and start cutting. The main thing will be to get the weight down. I have a 114 gm Knuffel and hope to get this under 150.
Rod

Zimbo

Apr 09, 2006, 03:55 PM

Looks nice Wetafly. Where abouts in NZ are you?
Paul

Wetafly

Apr 09, 2006, 06:16 PM

Hi Paul
Wellington

perttime

Apr 10, 2006, 02:20 AM

I like the look of the Futurion/Circus. The landing gear is pretty distinctive. You beat me to making a drawing out of the published photos.

(Off Topic)
... I'd say that your posted drawing is enough to allow anybody, who really wants to, to build their own. I am sometimes a bit uneasy about plans for somebody else's stuff that will/may be sold as a kit (like Tensor/Sortatensor some months ago). At such a reduced size, it is probably OK.

Uhhh, I am trying to say that I am glad to have a way to build something like the Futurion, but I wish Donatas (what's the last name?) could have released it first. Nice work anyway. ... not trying to start an argument about anything ...
(/Off Topic)

perttime

Apr 20, 2006, 01:44 AM

Any progress? Can we have a picture?

Wetafly

Apr 20, 2006, 08:53 PM

Paintings done, will assemble this weekend. Will post pictures this weekend or monday.
Rod

nishuko

Apr 21, 2006, 11:53 AM

My countryman's Donatas original edition http://forum.rcmarket.lt/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid=35

Lithuanian F3A

Trisquire

Apr 21, 2006, 01:09 PM

From what I've read in various forums, the Futurion is all 3mm Depron with the exception of the wings which are 2mm. I believe Donatas doesn't use any carbon fiber anywhere. Just a bit of thread bracing.

Regards,
Tom

Wetafly

Apr 23, 2006, 02:31 AM

Pics

Weight at this stage (no gear) 73gms.
Wing area is 388 sq in (25.039 dm sq)
With a possible final weight of 155 gm.
Wing loading 2.029 oz/sq ft ( 6.19 gm/sq dm)

As a comparison my knuffel v1 is 45 gm bare airframe (with carbon)
Final weight 115 gm.
Area 227.1 sq in (14.65 sq dm)
Wing loading 2.57 oz/sq ft (7.84 gm/sq dm)

The fuselage is tabbed and the rigging holes are lined with plastic tube.

Rod

perttime

Apr 23, 2006, 07:09 AM

Looks good to me.
We'll see if I can wait for a kit or if I will have to size your drawing for some motor I have lying around.

Malves

May 03, 2006, 04:41 PM

Any update on your plane, Wetafly? Mine's flying great, even after a couple of dumb thumbs. :o I've used your plans to build mine, but I decided to make my own plans based on what you've posted. I've done many modifications for better bulding and to look a lil more like the Futurion. I'll try to print, cut and paint it next weekend. This one also has a shorter fuse, about 1 1/4".
I don't think we will have a Futurion kit anytime soon. But I hope it comes out. This plane flies really nice. I've also seen a full fuse version of it at www.docinsane.com. Check the wallpaper section. BTW, I use Photoshop to do my plans.

3Don

Jul 12, 2006, 06:40 AM

I'm little shocked, i was reading RC forums and bam i see my plane free plans..:) Wetafly weight of your plane is 73g...? This is way to much, my Futurion is ~50g glued together without electric.
First of all glad to see you like my design. Anyway kiting of Futurion is not going very well at the moment, but there still is some chances that plane will be released as a kit...:(
If not i have one idea to release hi quality Futurion 4D plans with building manual with many pictures and building tips how to build very light and strong airplane. All package will cost ~20$, let me know if there is some interest.

Malves

Jul 12, 2006, 08:50 AM

Even thou I have the large plans, I haven't distributed it to anyone. I bet Wetafly haven't either.
Anyways, I definitely have an interest in the plans if you sell them.:) Specialy for the full fuse version.:D This is one of the nicest planes I've flew. :cool:

Jeff Pfeifer

Jul 12, 2006, 08:53 AM

Donatas, glad to see you here!

matchlessaero

Jul 12, 2006, 10:14 AM

I'll second that! Good to see you in here 3Don! Don't be a stranger. : )

Jerry Combs

Jul 12, 2006, 12:16 PM

Donatas, nice to see you on this forum! Your design is beautiful and I wish you good luck in getting it kitted. Getting a design kitted can be frustrating. I am curious, what material do you use for your landing skids?

Thanks,
Jerry

Wetafly

Jul 13, 2006, 02:15 AM

Hi Donatas
Have hardly flown it yet as Ive gone off the boil a bit lately with indoor (too many projects). Will fly again next week.
As I pointed out at the beginning there is no way we will see these kits in New Zealand. So I reverse engineered the model from pictures and freely available info on the net. The drawings I have put up are not detailed enough for building and were only meant to be illustrative. If you are interested in looking at my Autocad file I will send it too you. I would be happy to pay for drawings and building tips especially if II could build the airframe down to 50 gm. I used the same sort of construction as for my 115 gm Knuffels and the Cirkus came out with a lighter wing loading. There has been some talk of optimum loadingsa little heavier.
Anyway great you dropped in I hope you can share some of your expertise.
Rod

3Don

Jul 13, 2006, 03:51 AM

Guys i understand your interest in my plane (same was with my when Tensor show up). Malves and Wetafly thanks for keeping plans for your self, i work on this plane almost one year, now im flying 5th version of freestyle Futurion and i believe it is perfect now.
Now im making movie with Futurion for Flying Giants viewer choice contest and talking with few manufacturers about Futurion kitting if nothing good came out, somewhere in this October full plans with manual will be available.
Jeff nice to see you to! maybe you can tell me title of last song you used in Freestyle in Chitty 3D contest?
Jerry thanks for kind words! Its sure is many problems getting plane kitted:)
Now about these skids, i was using bamboo for them, but i don't use them any more, i found that it save few g but after sew hard landing wing become twisted and that make bad influence on flying characteristics. Each time after take off i need to trim plane...Now i use 1.5mm carbon rod with 5mm EPP "whel pant".
Here is last version of Futurion:

http://www.flashmob.eik.lt/video/FUT.jpg

http://www.flashmob.eik.lt/video/FUT1.jpg

120g without battery, with 2cell TP 480 i get 144g rtf weight! Power is unbelievable! Next step VPP Futurion, with ~160g it should be killer in freestyle!

Malves

Jul 13, 2006, 08:52 AM

Jerry Combs

Jul 13, 2006, 12:57 PM

Donatas,
I had the problem of wing warping on my Ballerina design, I was using a skid style landing gear similar to the one that you used on the Futurion. I used Depron with a 0.003" thick carbon runner on the edge of the Depron. I have now gone back to 1.5mm carbon rod and wheels. It looks as if you are using bamboo for your aileron pushrods?

Jerry

3Don

Jul 17, 2006, 04:26 PM

Hey Donatas,

Nice pics, bro. I just love the looks of this plane.:) Also, even thou I don't have the original plans, it flies great. I don't have mine anymore, but after looking at these pics, I will put one together again this weekend.:D
I really wanna buy the plans, too bad it's gonna take so long.:( At least, it'll be just in time for the winter season.

Thanks Malves, believe me look of this plane is second vantage, first goes flying characteristics, i believe Futurion is one of the best (if not the best) flying plane for freestyle from what we have today. This is very brave announcement , but from what i flew (~50 indoor planes) and saw on Internet and in real, i can't find plane with such good flying characteristics. It is perfect plane to learn fly 3D, all hard maneuvers are to easy with this plane! And expert with right setup and just little practice can perform craziest manoeuvres.

Hope you will find it by your self after 2-3 months:)

Jerry you right carbon rods is best option for landing gear, only wheels are better from EPP, that save 2-6g! And yes i use bamboo to connect top and bottom ailerons, and to connect servo with them as well. This work really nice, is light and cheap!

Wetafly it would be nice to get your autocad plans, thanks, here is my email: donatas.pauzuolis@gmail.com

By the way guys now im working on new design, it will be certainly something new and killer looking!!! Keep on looking here:)

P.S Jeff im waiting for that song title:)

Jeff Pfeifer

Jul 17, 2006, 09:35 PM

It was a techno remix of the Alice Cooper hit "Poison."

3Don

Jul 18, 2006, 05:07 AM

Thanks Jeff !

Jeff Pfeifer

Jul 18, 2006, 12:45 PM

I think the group that did the remix was "Groove Coverage."

3Don

Jul 18, 2006, 01:06 PM

Thx, i already have it, i maybe use it in this year freestyle routines.

Malves

Jul 20, 2006, 02:10 PM

Ok, I've been getting a few requests to send the plans for the Futurion copy. Plz, stop sending me PM asking for that.
As I've said before, I am NOT distributing the plans. Thank you.

3Don

Jul 20, 2006, 03:33 PM

Thank you Malves, nice to see you respect my work!

Malves

Jul 20, 2006, 07:19 PM

No problem, bro. It's funny that a few posts back I said I wasn't gonna distribute the plans, and I start having ppl asking for it. Before that noone asked for it. Go figure! :rolleyes:

matchlessaero

Jul 20, 2006, 07:28 PM

Malves, could I please have a set of your plans?

Just kidding! LOL

Malves

Jul 20, 2006, 09:01 PM

Malves, could I please have a set of your plans?

Just kidding! LOL

No, I am sure you're very happy with your Sentinel. :p

perttime

Jul 21, 2006, 05:25 AM

Here is last version of Futurion: Too bad the skids did not work perfect. They looked so neat. I was wondering if there would be any sense in putting wheels where the original design had the skids and bracing it with something.

matchlessaero

Jul 21, 2006, 08:08 AM

Perttime, Jason Noll's ultralight Eclipse that he used at the ETOC had similar skids... The plane did not handle well at all on the ground. It appeared to be partially blamed on the friction on the ground, and partially because of the location of the skids (too far back)

diablo2006

Oct 03, 2006, 05:22 PM

So Don, you said plans will be available now? Any updates, im waiting eagerly :D

Cheers,
George

georgeherbert1@googlemail.com

3Don

Oct 03, 2006, 05:52 PM

So Don, you said plans will be available now? Any updates, im waiting eagerly :D

Cheers,
George

georgeherbert1@googlemail.com

Don't worry George, im working on it. But curently i have to build 10 Futurions for my friends and for my for this season competitions, also need to prepare VPP system and some other nice bonus tricks, so im little bussy.

Also don't forget to check on www.flyinggiants.com next week, i made killer video for Video contest.

diablo2006

Oct 04, 2006, 01:36 PM

Yeah, i entered for the Flying giants Video contest but didnt have the time. I love all of your futurion videos, truly amazing :D

Will you build me one :D:D:D?

cant wait for the plans.

whopper

Oct 04, 2006, 08:32 PM

3Don

Oct 06, 2006, 08:31 AM

3Don, I got bored last night (I hate insomnia!) so I started playing around drawing some plans for a full-fuse Futurion from some pics I found online.

Could I send you a copy (full size pdf) for you to have a look at and give me some feed back?
No-one (except for you and me) will see them, and you're welcome to use them as you see fit if they look usable (might save you a little time drawing plans up yourself). Some "Shocky Fuselage" style plans would be no problems either.....

I can't wait to see your FlyingGiants Video Contest video, you always blow me away with the freestyle routines you come up with!

Hey Whooper no problem, send your plans to my and i will say what is wrong, and where you should make corrections.
Now we are working on plans and thinking about kitting Futurion by our selves, there is still loots of work to do but who knows, maybe soon you will hear big anouncement.

Also you will love new movies, don't forget to check glow class to, i heard that videos will be posted next week on FG page.

whopper

Oct 06, 2006, 09:00 AM

Hi Don,

Sent you a PM. :cool:

Matt.

Mike Seale

Oct 08, 2006, 08:39 AM

Here's my rendition of the Cirkus built from the jpeg image provided in the first post of this thread by Rod (Wetafly). Span is 700mm (the width of one sheet of 3mm depron) and it's 780mm long. RTF weight is 167g with 20g motor and 27g Hyperion 350mAh 2s battery.
The flying was interesting! At first it was very difficult to get it flying in a straight line. Rudder was fine but ailerons gave loads of adverse yaw. And once the turn was established it would continue turning on its own with hands off - almost as if the servo had a double neutral.
I raised all ailerons about 2mm and this made it better, but not perfect. Someone then pointed out that the struts had a lot of side area in front of the CG, so we set about removing lots of material. Eventually it was flying well, but still a little tricky getting it flying straight line.
Even though it has some vices this is the best flying indoor model I've had. It locks into the hover very easily and torque rolls in a way that makes me look like a good pilot :cool:
I'll probalby cut another one and place the struts further back to see if this improves matters.

diablo2006

Oct 08, 2006, 02:41 PM

Mike, how did you print the plans out, I could do it if they were in a A4 tiled PDF format??

Mike Seale

Oct 08, 2006, 03:01 PM

Mike, how did you print the plans out, I could do it if they were in a A4 tiled PDF format??
Plans...what plans? I just printed the jpeg from post #1 and measured some dimensions to get a rough idea of where to cut the depron. It would be nice to see some plans so I could know how far out from the original I am. This might allow me to see why mine has this odd flying characteristic. However, from previous posts in this thread I think it unlikely that we'll see any plans so I'll just make do and learn from the experience.

Aio_1

Oct 08, 2006, 03:18 PM

...I'll probalby cut another one and place the struts further back to see if this improves matters.
If you reckon there's too much side area up front causing yaw instability then you can just add some side area at the back on your current model to test the theory rather than building a new one without being sure. Just add a larger rudder or add some material to the profile along it's length whichever suits. If this improves matters then your diagnosis is correct!

Aio_1

Oct 08, 2006, 03:25 PM

So. Question......

What size biplane is appropriate for a MicroREX220/3/3200 11g motor on 2s 300mAh cells and either a 6x3 or 7x3.5 (should be ~33W and ~40W respectively)
I'm thinking approx 680mm span and 2000sqcm.

I hope I'm right because that's the dimensions of a bipe I just helped my father design for his new equipment! Couldn't find much info for bipes below AXI 2204 size. I'm pretty confident it'll perform well so long as he keeps the weight below 140g or so.

What do you think based on the Cirkus which isn't far off in size?

Aidan

Mike Seale

Oct 08, 2006, 03:43 PM

So. Question......

What size biplane is appropriate for a MicroREX220/3/3200 11g motor on 2s 300mAh cells and either a 6x3 or 7x3.5 (should be ~33W and ~40W respectively)
I'm thinking approx 680mm span and 2000sqcm.
FYI, I flew my 700mm span 167g plane using a three cell motor on 2-cells. Power would have been about 30W. It had enough to hover and do all other manouvres I wanted, but it will be more fun next month when I get a 2-cell motor for it.
I did nothing special to make this model light except for the closed loop rudder and elevator controls, and I even let my daughter go mad with the paint. If I was able to swap my motor (20g) for the 11g MicroREX and go from 30W to 40W it would make for a very nice flyer indeed.
In short, I think you're about right with a model of this size.

diablo2006

Oct 08, 2006, 04:10 PM

Donatas, i just saw your FG GSVC video, its so amazing, you got my vote. I couldnt help but smile all the way through.

It only make me want a Futurion MORE!

3Don

Oct 08, 2006, 06:05 PM

Mike your plane reminds my first version of Futurion, it had close problems.
Fir'st i would like to say we are working on hi quality plans with manual and many usefull information about indoor plane setup, which is key to succesful flying. Believe me with right setup this plane is perfect 3D trainer, it is very easy to do any 3D manuover, KE, point and snap rolls. And yes it is freestyle plane, so don't exect calm and smoth flying:)
Sory i can't give any exact dates (but i hope no longer than one month) till plans will be avialable for sale. As i told it will be not only simply plan, but also all details, with suggestions what equipment you should use to get best flying characterystics. Also many advices how to make plane lighter, stronger, right throws, CG, Expo, ETC. In one word you will get manual how to prepare competition level indoor plane!
Also now we preparing plans for FuturionXXL version for outdoor flying, 82cm wings, 92cm fuselage, powered with Himax4100 engine + gearbox, 12x6 gws, 3S 800mah packs. I will test prototype this week, and post some pictures here.
Probably set you will get include, both plans and building manual in pdf.
Next step, we decide to make kits by ourselves, now we are solving all small problems (best materials, painting, hardware), and planning to start production soon.

For the moment please visit Flying giants video contest page: http://www.flyinggiants.com/content/06gsvc/vote.aspx
and take a look at my videos in glow and in electric class, im sure these are best videos i ever made, and sure hope you will like them.
Videos are pretty big ~55mb, but i assure you it's worth to wait:)

Diablo thanks for compliments!!! We had great time by making these videos that's for sure:)

Malves

Oct 08, 2006, 06:36 PM

Great vid, Donatas. Really makes me wanna build another Futurion.:)

You got my vote, bro.;) Hurry up with those plans!!!!:D

3Don

Oct 08, 2006, 06:49 PM

Great vid, Donatas. Really makes me wanna build another Futurion.:)

You got my vote, bro.;) Hurry up with those plans!!!!:D

Thanks mate! Believe me i would love to have final version faster to...but quality takes time...
Still need to build 5 new planes until Carvin competition.... and prepare new freestyle routine....
+ Studies and full time job....

Malves

Oct 08, 2006, 07:32 PM

Just checked the glow vids. How come you didn't jump the showtime? :p Tell the good looking girl she has a fan on this side of the pond. :D LOL

Yes, I understand about the Futurion . It's all cool. I know the wait will be well worth it. :)

3Don

Oct 09, 2006, 06:13 AM

Thanks Malves,

Hehe ok i will tell Asta hi from you :p

Also what you mean i did not jump showtime?:) Take a look at end of movie once again:)

And if for real, my kohones are worth much more than one video contest LOL:)

perttime

Oct 09, 2006, 06:25 AM

Also now we preparing plans for FuturionXXL version for outdoor flying, 82cm wings, 92cm fuselageThat sounds very interesting too! Full fuselage?

3Don

Oct 09, 2006, 06:54 AM

No it is still shocky type plane, Full fuse of that size will be little to heawy.

Im also working on new full fuse monoplane for freestyle, let me say it look killer!!! Wait up for pics.

Jerry Combs

Oct 09, 2006, 09:36 AM

Awsome video! The flying on the train was inspiring. Your control of your model is incredible, you make it look so easy. It looks as if you and your friends had a good time making the video.

Jerry

3Don

Oct 13, 2006, 07:34 AM

Jerry thanks for compliments! You are right it was great fun to make these videos with good friends, (probably it is my favorite part of our hobby).

By the way check out announcement on Flyinggiants.com :
Our members! Viewing and voting for the contest will run until the 19th at which times polls will close. We'll announce the winners via FGTV broadcast on the evening of the 21st at the FlyingGiants pre-Tucson Shootout road trip party

diablo2006

Oct 20, 2006, 05:31 AM

where are the plans at?

diablo2006

Oct 22, 2006, 03:20 AM

Congratulations on the GSVC results, brilliant videos.

Didnt you win some good prizes eh'?

I think next year i will make a video.

3Don

Oct 23, 2006, 05:56 PM

Hi Diablo,

Thanks for compliments first, i really apreciate your support, also thanks for all people that voted for my videos!!! :D

Futurion plans status:
Only few small details left to change and convert them to A4 PDF, also working on Manual right now, you will love it.

Once again thanks,

Donatas,

diablo2006

Oct 24, 2006, 03:00 AM

So does th fact that you are giving the plans away mean that you have an even better model up your sleeve for next years competitions? :D

Malves

Oct 24, 2006, 09:34 AM

Those are great news, Donatas.:)

diablo,

I don't think the plans will be given away without you having to pull your wallet out.;)

Tim H.

Oct 24, 2006, 10:09 AM

Futurion plans status:
Only few small details left to change and convert them to A4 PDF, also working on Manual right now, you will love it.

Once again thanks,

Donatas,

Great videos Donatas! Let me know if I can help you convert pdf to imperial sizes for us on this side of the pond.

Tim H.

perttime

Oct 25, 2006, 05:01 AM

I don't think the plans will be given away without you having to pull your wallet out.;)That is my understanding too, but what do I know...
I hope we get some pictures of the version(s?) that the plans represent. That would make it easier to dig out the plastic.

suhonen91

Oct 30, 2006, 09:53 AM

wow! :eek:
how to get pdf plans?
i want that plane
it`s nice :)

diablo2006

Oct 30, 2006, 04:36 PM

Soon available at http://www.pauzuolis-rc.com/ ;)

3Don

Nov 02, 2006, 08:19 AM

Tim i will contact with you soon, i have few questions for you.

Perttime naturally you will see few pictures what plans/manual represent, that's is naturally request from customers. In your place i would ask for same!

Diablo you are right plans will be available on my homepage. Only now im fixing few more details of plane, i get reports from few friends that already fly Futurion, and they talk about same flying problem... So i need to fix it beffore releasing plans, patience my friends :o

For the moment take a look at my new indoor pattern plane: http://forum.rcmarket.lt/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=49&photoid=587

suhonen91

Nov 02, 2006, 09:24 AM

Soon available at http://www.pauzuolis-rc.com/ ;)
what is soon? :rolleyes: :confused:

Ryan Archer

Nov 02, 2006, 10:38 AM

soon is, eventually

perttime

Nov 02, 2006, 01:00 PM

How do you keep a fool nervous?
...

I'll tell you some other time... :D

edit: sorry, could not resist...

diablo2006

Nov 28, 2006, 12:11 PM

bump

AliasJack

Dec 16, 2006, 12:51 PM

Hi Donatas
Is the Futurion already ready???
Or can I get the plan of the Future anywhere??
Jakob

stigh4

May 31, 2007, 10:18 PM

stigh4

May 31, 2007, 10:21 PM

http://www.meijer-models.tk/# here is a link for a plane that is similar to my ideas there are no pics of the plane with the mid mount vpp setup but in the vids there are

Aio_1

Jun 01, 2007, 05:01 AM

ok i am just getting into electric after flying glow for a few years. i am interested in making a similar plane to the cirkus/futurion but with a few mods... i want to put a vpp setup (i have already made the prop out of trex tailrotor bits) and i was thinking of mid mountion the engine. to do this i would have to widen the fuse therefor making the wings wider apart.. also considering i am new to electric the weight will be much larger than yours considering the engine i have is 60 grams alone.also for anyone who has made a mid mount vpp setut do i have to have it infrount of the c of g or on it. anyways anys help/ coments would be good. when/ if i do it i will post pics and specs... thanks
If your motor is 3 or 4 times heavier than it should be and the VPP system won't fit without changing wing spacing then maybe you're looking at the wrong plane!
Any plane this size with a 60g motor is going to be way overweight and therefore too fast for comfortable indoor flying. The motor alone is going to weigh nearly half what the plane should ideally weigh:eek: . Unless you have a VERY big space to fly in or you plan to do a lot of hovering I'd seriously suggest you re-think that motor. I pressume a 60g motor is capable of 150W+? If so are you planning to use that power, which would require a bigger battery and even more weight, or were you planning to prop down for moderate power with a 20g to 30g battery?

If you don't intend to stay with the 60g motor I'd say you certainly need to scale up the Circus design to say 120% (36sqdm/560sqin) or perhaps even bigger. Scaling up might also provide enough space for the prop.

Aidan

stigh4

Jun 01, 2007, 06:50 PM

you are right abouth the weight i have 115 grams with only the motor, esc and servos, i curently do not have the baterys but thinking of 2 cell 1500ma so my weight will be an isue. i am not too keen on indoor flying because i dont have anywhere where i can (unless my school lets me) I will see if i can scale it up i will see... if the sheets of depron are big enough. anyways thanks for your opinion...
Also does anyone know where the best place to mid mount a vpp setup... on the c of g or just b4 it.. thanks

diablo2006

Oct 23, 2007, 04:31 PM

Any update on the plans

George
freestyle-rc.co.uk

nishuko

Oct 24, 2007, 08:41 AM

I have plagiarized one :) it's not even absolutely the same as 3Dons Futurion (there are some differences), but flyes very nice, almost the same I belive. There are some mistakes in building, but I am still not so good to fell the difference in flight, so I havo no headache for that :)

HenriqueHingst

Feb 05, 2008, 01:09 PM

ola for everyone. I need know if anybody tem a few plant of the futurion , vrolet about to me sent over. thank you

Bubba Gump

Feb 05, 2008, 03:42 PM

What are you trying to say. Are you trying to say that if some will send you plans to the Futurion or post them. The answer is no because Donatas doesn't want them public.

torqeroll

Feb 05, 2008, 04:34 PM

hello, bubba, do you know if donatas sells a kit or plans himself?? i know he talked about releasing a kit a while back ?? thanks

jackack

Feb 05, 2008, 05:19 PM

Donatas are selling kits.. yes, and they rocks :D

torqeroll

Feb 05, 2008, 10:36 PM

does he sell the futurion ?? were can you buy ?

perttime

Feb 06, 2008, 02:23 AM

Donatas has not advertised it much, as far as I can tell. They seem to have lots of Futurions flying in UK (?)

This is the best information I have found:
http://www.pauzuolis-rc.com/stories/videos/futurion-video-from-sweden.html
"Airbrushed kits available for 75eur, for more information send email to me. "

His contacts:
http://www.pauzuolis-rc.com/donatas-pauzuolis-contacts.html
donatas.pauzuolis@gmail.com