New Model Boat Magazine

[Jcopter]

Have you seen the new model boat Magazine, It is called Scale and RC Boat Magazine It is guite good, Go to www.srcbm.com and check it out!!!
I got a copy at the Inland Nautical Society's Ragatta and was knocked out. I hear that they will have the latest issue available at Toledo!! lot of pix and good articles
Jack

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

Someone mentioned it here...

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403828

:D

[Jcopter]

I Have Seen the 1st and 2nd Issues and I think it is really great, 2nd Issue is a real winner Lots of warships
Jack

[Hobbygroup]

Here it is

[green-boat]

The owner of one of my LHS's spoke with somebody about getting copies of the new magazine back in December and again in January. He has yet to see any copies. I wanted to see a copy of the magazine before getting a subscription but if you cannot provide copies of your product to hobby shops then why should I even expend the effort to get a subscription. I'm not impressed.........

[Jcopter]

I do not believe that it is available through any hobby shop only through subscriptions, so in that regard no store would have any copies for you to be impressed by, But I am sure that If you did see a copy that you would be.

[patmat2350]

Jcopter, per the web site you reference above:

"We Distribute Directly to US Hobby Shops

Save Money and Serve your customers with Direct Distribution from SRCBM :
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Plan A. No Return - This is the high profit program . The retailer receives the Magazine at at 55% over Cover Price. New Issue/Current issues can be sold at cover price only. Back issues may be sold at 10-20% off the Cover Price Minimum Order of 5 Magazine Per issue. In this plan the magazines are not returnable for credit. You will be billed for all magazine mailed, As usual the Shipping is free.

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Plan B. Returnable Issue. The Magazines are sold to you at 35% discount. With free shipping.

Credit For unsold issues will be given if the magazine is not sold by 30 days after the end of the Sales Period i.e. March/April Issue will be eligible for credit end of May. For Credit the cover sheets and any added value items must be retains such as plans. If the issue is sealed in a poly bag it has to be returned un-opened for full credit.

To Get your Hobby Shop on our distribution List contact us Today. "

But since Capt. Ron wants to sell the copies to the LHS at 55% OVER cover price, he may not get many takers!

Pat M

[Hobbygroup]

First before we get

[patmat2350]

Ron, you're faster than a speeding web browser's cache!
(the hobby shop page reads correctly now).

Pat M

[wingnut163]

green boat don't subscribe.
that will show them.

and you will miss out on what the mag puts out.
and they will get two subscribers toyour one.

who looses???

[LONGBIKE]

I subcribe to the new mag and I tought it was very good but very short,
hopefully it will get longer with time and knowledge!

But for lack of r/c boat mags avalible today, I would think it is worth giving a try and lets hope it will grow and take off with time.

longbike

[CG Bob]

I printed out the hobby shop sales info and will be taking it to my boss at the hobby shop tommorrow.

[LONGBIKE]

CAPTIAN RON,

I got a question! On the web site for the scale & r-c boat mag. I see this add on the bottom for the mag that has other covers on them but with the scale&r/c boat logo's . What are these? are they future covers or a past cover for other mags?

Thanks longbike

[LONGBIKE]

Its were you click to start your subcription

[wingnut163]

i finenaly got the 2nd issue. took aslow boat to me. think they could print the mailing addy on a better strip. with the sea and the light lable strip it was hard to see the address.

[Elroy68]

Nawt.

[Ron Olson]

I picked up both of the first issues at the Toledo show plus Capt. Ron gave me a hat! I started reading the issues on the trip home and then the next day. Mr. Merrriman's article in the premiere issue really set me off as I felt that he had a "Holier than Thou" attitude and felt was very condescending to the readers. Fortunately in the second issue things were toned down.
Other than that little glitch, I think that the magazine will do very well for itself.

[wingnut163]

well if you don't like tubes foward then don't read it. all sodon't watch 60 miniutes, andy does the same thing.
its all ways your choice, read or pass by. remember that. why down the whole mag. cause of one thing. hell, if i did that i would not have any hobbie things to read.

[Jcopter]

Everyone is entitled to their opinon! This is what keeps us sharp, the fact that you are free to read all info and then gather it together and formulate your own opinion. That is what it is about! Sure we are going to have folks from both ends of the spectrum. Thats what makes it interesting! don't get mad!!! get inspired! Laff at them! Cry with them! Enjoy it, the very fact that you can read many varried opinions!!, and if it offends you do not have to read it, but the very fact of reading an opinion that differs from yours adds to your very makeup and makes you a more well rounded person, just think how booring the world would be if everything where the same, Just one flavor? I know that I enjoy stimulating, mind inspiring articles and I don't have to agree with the authors info or attitude I can make up my own mind! and in the end I believe that it all makes for a better read.

(The Views expressed are not the expressed views of the management or of the author and may not in fact be the views of especially anyone!)

[Elroy68]

None!

[Jcopter]

Oh I beg to differ,
I was not Bashing or defaiming anyone just stating an opinion also!!!
I believe that you are reading much, much more in to it than I expressed!!
I think that you should reread my post I was mearly saying that each person CAN express his or her opinion As I did on this forum I simply stated that one could choose to read or not to read an article as I do when I choose to read anything.
My opinion was not pointed at anyone's post (Simply stating my opinion), (In fact, not to belittle your post, as all posts are created equal), it was not even the reason that I decided to reply, but since my name was mentioned I felt the need, had it not I do not believe that I would have felt the need to reply.
So I do not choose to reread the previous posts as I know what was said, (thats my story and I'm stickin to it!) My opinions were not pointed at anyone, simply my opinions and I'm sorry that you took it that way, and you are free to express your opinions.
As to the price of magazines once again your choise (See you get to choose again to buy or not to buy ) and as I do not have any control of publishing dates, I can not help you there, But at least you have a choice, and if there is only 1 magazine you would not have that choice.
And I'm glad that you are inspired when you wake up every morning now use that inspiration to build or finish that model I would like to see it!!

Oh and thank you for your service in the armed forces, nothing that I could possably say or do could ever repay you or our service men and women for that
Sooooo I do not wish to resend my previous post only to say it was not pointed at anyone as stated above thanks again
jack

[Elroy68]

delete.

[Jcopter]

WOW
what was that?
Jack

[wingnut163]

Jcop;
i agree with you. maybe E68 should open his mind a bit, he might get to like some thing.

[ooby]

still waiting for my second issue...

[Jcopter]

Thanks Wingnut
I hope that nothing I said caused that!! what ever "that" was!, I'm not quite sure what deleting his statements did, it just left me wondering?.
He did seem kinda mad at something and all I was saying was that even if he was, he was entitled to be so, and express his opinion,

And hey ooby
did ya go to the website or call to let them know that you have not recieved your issue yet, it could have got lost or maybe your mailman is not done with it yet? and they can't fix what is not known to be broken.
Jack

[wingnut163]

no were ok, just hope e68 is too.

[ooby]

Jack, thanks. Wouldn't you know it...posted my comment this am and it arrived this pm.

[Jcopter]

ooby (Love that name)
See they have ESP, extra sensory perspiration, I guess they heard ya and jumped all over that camel driver,/slow boat captians butt and your issue arived. The squeaky wheel does get the oil!!
And I, also hope all is well with e68!!
\Jack

[P. Tritle]

As long as we're on the subject of the second issue, I had also stated my opinion regarding Mr. Merriman's first article, and left it that I would make my decision whether to read or not to read his third, based on the content of the second. Bottom line, I'll read the third, and all the others after that, as long as the information contained in it remains as useful and well written as the second!
PAT

[Jcopter]

I Also found it to be quite usefull and Informative.
Jack

[PondProwler]

Are these folks still in business or has this magazine sunk?

All links lead nowhere.

[der kapitan]

Are these folks still in business or has this magazine sunk?
All links lead nowhere.
Prowler, saying that Scale & RC Boat Magazine has sunk would be an understatement---. :eek:

Sad, as we could use another publication like it was shaping up to be---. ;)

[Jcopter]

Yes It is gone I think it sailed away (He He)
Hey Kap I would love to do another mag Maybe some day I will!
and ya it was going to be great, it is very sad indeed.
Jcopter

[Ron Olson]

Lots of not-too happy subscribers out there as it seems that Captain Ron walked off with a lot of money.
There were only 2 issues that I know of printed and I have a copy of each.

[Jcopter]

3 issues, And yes... lots of people, I don't have any Idea How many subscriptions there were he kept that to him self, as it died, he Owed me Over 1200.00 Dollars? I felt bad for them, But nothing I could do I did see him at the AMA show this year, He must have some big ones, to show his face there! I hope that everytime someone sees him they let him have it! I just could not believe it.
Jcopter

[Ron Olson]

I was surprised to see him last year at the Toledo show, I wonder if he'll show his face this year?
BTW, he gave me one of the baseball caps that subscribers were supposed to get and a lot of them didn't..

[der kapitan]

I was surprised to see him last year at the Toledo show, I wonder if he'll show his face this year?
BTW, he gave me one of the baseball caps that subscribers were supposed to get and a lot of them didn't..
My booth was kitty-corner fom E-Power, which is his brother's business, and he was there with no messages of explanation, reassurance, or anything. :(

My business (Microglass) has been based on customer satisfaction and a lot of repeat customers, based on the way I do things. I find it upsetting that he let a lot of people down, including me---. :o

It makes me leery of other up-and-coming wannabes---. :eek:

[Jcopter]

Kapitan So your the microglass guy I remember your ad I tried to get it a large as I could, and love your product, Did you loose money to ron? I'm sorry that he let you and many others down, Hope it did not impact your business any. I got a case of Issue #1 and A Big bag of useless S&RCBM Hats. His brother sammy & his mom run E-power I like them both or I would get me 1200.00 worth of product. Too bad I really thought Ron was my friend and I could trust him otherwise I would not have let him run up his bill so much and when the check bounced I knew the end was near but did not want to believe it as I wanted the Mag to be sucessful, so if ya know anyone who want a Hat.......
Jcopter

[der kapitan]

Jcopter, you were the guy who was hurt the worst---. :eek:

You got left holding the bag, ended up out a lot of money, and the guy didn't even tell you that he was going to bail out---. :rolleyes:

Luckily, I didn't lose any money to him, probably because his book keeping was so behind, he forgot to bill me in advance for my ads---. ;)

So when he did finally take a dump, I ended up even---. :D

[Jcopter]

Kapitan
Thats good to know I'm glad you did not loose any cash, Hey I bet that bookeeping thing contributed to the mags downfall. I wonder If some of the other advertisers experienced the same? "O" well Time marches On
Jcopter

[frankg]

:) KAPITAN- You are right about Ron have big brass one’s. He showed his face at the WRAM Show in New York this year and even came to the cocktail party with his mom and brother. Not once did he mention the defunct mag or sub’s that paid up front nor did he mention anything to the advertisers that signed up. He turned out to be a bad apple, so we take our lumps and move on. It’s funny that even thought he did so many people wrong that he still sells a bunch of stuff out of his booth at the show. By the way, he said that he and his clan will be at the TOLEDO show in April. :)

[Kmot]

If no one ever says anything to his face I suppose he will just keep on keepin' on!
Anyone got a recent picture of this reprobate?

[keith S]

I think that no matter what anyone says to him, it will not change a thing and he could care less. The fact that he could show his face in public tells me that he does not care. His brother and mom were at the NW Hobby Show last month, but Ron did not show.
Jcoptor had done more damage control for him then he deserves before he got burned. If he starts a new magazine in the future, I will be one to do what I can to support it. The real question is, are there enough people out there willing to subscibe to a magazine?

[der kapitan]

If no one ever says anything to his face I suppose he will just keep on keepin' on!
Anyone got a recent picture of this reprobate?
Kmot, E-Power will be at Toledo, somewhere across the aisle from me. ;)

Whether Ron will be there is anybody's guess. I have no problems with his brother Sam or his mom, and can't feel but that he poses an embarassment to them---. :o

In my eyes, he no longer exists---. :rolleyes:

[smart_racer]

I would be more than happy to see a new scale boat mag...but my support this time would be at the news stand, not a subscription!

[Jcopter]

Ya it is not sammy or his moms fault, and I do not blame them at all, it was all ron's doing! I just wish I had some Idea of how much money he ripped people of? It is too bad that there is nothing we can do, He just got away with it, thats what burns me up There should be some kind of law about taking your subscription money and not providing the product but how would you complain and to whoom? the Post Office? so he get all that money buys a sailboat, gets a mexican vacation, takes a job in catilina and every one else gets squat! Not fair.... and he is in the Coast Guard Reserve Maybe they would like to know what he did? O well I ranted enough SO if you got ripped of by ron post here lets get a count.
Jcopter

[Greg Hiltz]

Yes, I hadn't thought much about advertisers losing 'paid-in-advance' ad money to that guy, but I'm also pi**ed at losing the 2 year subscription money. I did receive the hat, which was very cheaply made, silk-sceened simple wording. i had expected a stitched logo of some sort.
Oh well, life does go on, but likewas said, it was nice to see a new, prospective scale model mag start up.
Just for the record, just what is out there now for model boat publications?
I know there is a ccouple of English ones, but the price, landed here in Canada, is now close to $10.00 each. A bit much.

-Greg Hiltz

[der kapitan]

I did receive the hat, which was very cheaply made, silk-sceened simple wording. i had expected a stitched logo of some sort.
Just for the record, just what is out there now for model boat publications?
I know there is a couple of English ones, but the price, landed here in Canada, is now close to $10.00 each. A bit much.
-Greg Hiltz
Greg, the British publications, "Model Boats" and "Marine Modeller" are well worth the money, and are first rate. :D

As for the hats from SRCBM, I received two, and they were embroidered logos---. :)

[Jcopter]

Hey I still go some hats left Wish I could get the word Magazine off then it would just read Scale & RC Boat Model If Your around and want one I got EM
Jack

[Kmot]

and he is in the Coast Guard Reserve Maybe they would like to know what he did?
Jcopter

Oh yeah, you know it! Most CO's won't put up with illegal shenanigans by their subordinates. Even though he is not regular full time Coastie but a weekender the fact he has ripped people off in an illegal way brings discredit upon his branch of service. I think his CO and Exec would be really interested in this.

I think I got two issues of the magazine. Was a third ever published?

[Ron Olson]

If you have the issues, he also owns the company advertising I believe on the back cover or on the inside back cover, e something or other selling a lot of electric goodies.
I did talk to him for about 45 minutes one day on the phone and he wanted to know if I was interested in writing some articles for his magazine. Since I have almost zilch experience with scale ships I had to turn him down.
It seems like a scale model ship magazine has a limited amount of followers, no offense to you that are into it which would make it difficult to have enough people to keep it afloat. I know thta RCMB or Marine Moldeling Int'l. can't fill your needs either. The other magazine went under as it got more into full-sized ships than scale models. It did help with documentation but there are other mags on the market that covered that part.

[W.L Upshaw]

Ron Olson: Ron does not nor did he ever own E-power company, this belongs to his brother Sammie and Sammie did not own any part of the magazine.

I was lucky and broke just about even with the magazine for my advertising and the articals that I wrote.
It is a shame that the magazine went the way it did, This publication had a great deal of promise for Scale R/C Model Boaters here in the US.

[Jcopter]

Kmot Ya there where 3 issues I may still have some of issue 3 left too I will check Too bad cus the issues that were published were good and we had lots of other stuff that did not make it cus of rons money problem. Ron O He was running 2 hobby shows that also went under The northwest hobby expo and a show in texas I don't recall the name rite now and he did run E-power But I don't think they had anything to do with the advertiser on the bac cover unless It said E-power Boy I did lots Of art for all his companys now that I think back on it
Jcopter

[der kapitan]

When the magazine went under, Ron Abir lost his own money as well, and had to go into bankruptcy. :eek:

I don't think that he realized how much cash outlay is involved in creating and operating a publication---. ;)

But that's history now, and hindsight is always 20/20---. :o

[Jcopter]

Well, He did not list me as a creditor!!!
Jcopter

[Kmot]

Nor his assets? (sailboat?)

Anyway, the reprobate still checks in here. Although this thread 'died" in 2006, Ron Abir last log-on (Hobbygroup) was in October 2007.