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ace0nater
Jan 19, 2006, 06:33 PM
Ok guys I bought my Aero Ace today at target for 29.99. I tried to fly it but it was to windy :( . Are there any modifications that will make it fly to my expectations that dont take alot of effort. Thanks -ACE- :cool:
ronmar1
Jan 19, 2006, 06:38 PM
It's hard for us to know your expectations, but the AA exceeded mine by just charging and flying it. If you want mods check out the already existing threads for plenty of them.
Start here
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401484
Then go to part 2
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=460819
Ron
ghee-grose
Jan 19, 2006, 08:39 PM
I added all three of the little metal stickers to the nose of mine to balance it out better. It flies real nice with the lowest throttle setting.
Me and my son flew ours in about 10mph wind today. It was tough keeping it close and several times we had to make a 50 yard walk to get it down wind. They're great planes out of the box like Ron said, but many people have been tweaking them in many ways. Check the links out he posted and you will be overwhelmed, but interested no doubt. :D
Welcome to the addiction of the Aero Ace!
Darkdevil_725
Jan 19, 2006, 09:02 PM
the aeroace is truly impossible not to modify there are endless mods for these things when you start to think that this thing cant be modded anymore suddenly 100's of new mods pop up lemme say this if you cant mod this thing someway to make it better or a way to look better then quit r/c cause even a mentally disabled kid could mod this thing some how to make it work really good.
Spongebob
Jan 19, 2006, 10:19 PM
ace0nater,
I asked the exact same question, had the exact same problem a couple days ago. Wind was gusting up over 20mph, but i had some cover from my house and 6ft tall fence. Take it outside. Try it out. Find any problems? I'm sure there's a mod that helps. Then you hack it apart and try to make it a better flyer. (This is basically the same thing I was told... good thing, too.)
I've flown in a minimum wind of 7mph and it was a hoot in my little backyard.
Sponge
arclite5
Jan 19, 2006, 10:27 PM
the aeroace is truly impossible not to modify there are endless mods for these things when you start to think that this thing cant be modded anymore suddenly 100's of new mods pop up lemme say this if you cant mod this thing someway to make it better or a way to look better then quit r/c cause even a mentally disabled kid could mod this thing some how to make it work really good.
No offense dude, but you really have to start punctuating your sentences. Sentences are truly impossible not to modify, there are endless mods you can do to a sentence to make it easier to read. I mean if it's your way of writing, then so be it, but it would be easier to understand what the hell you're saying sometimes if you try it out.
Darkdevil_725
Jan 20, 2006, 06:19 AM
i dont bother with punctuation unless special occasion like a test or something takes me to much time to get all the puctuation right.
arclite5
Jan 20, 2006, 09:16 AM
i dont bother with punctuation unless special occasion like a test or something takes me to much time to get all the puctuation right.
I tend to agree, but the more you do it, the more it comes naturally.. And it's a necessary thing as you get into college and stuff. I guess whatever suits you suits you though, I don't mean to tell you what to do. =]
lensrc
Jan 20, 2006, 09:51 AM
i dont bother with punctuation unless special occasion like a test or something takes me to much time to get all the puctuation right.
Being we aren't having a vocal conversation here, punctuation, spelling and grammar have a direct effect on the impression you give others. We cant "hear" the end of a sentence, nor any other inflection. It relates directly to others evaluation of your intelligence. Just a little advice, take it as you wish.
Len
defranci
Jan 20, 2006, 12:01 PM
Being we aren't having a vocal conversation here, punctuation, spelling and grammar have a direct effect on the impression you give others. It relates directly to others evaluation of your intelligence.
Len
Darkdevil
In other words:
If we can't read your writing, 'cause it's wrote rotten . . . .
We tend to ignore what you have to say.
Don
arclite5
Jan 20, 2006, 01:00 PM
Darkdevil
In other words:
If we can't read your writing, 'cause it's wrote rotten . . . .
We tend to ignore what you have to say.
Don
We don't mean to be mean or anything, but when someone writes as if they're just taking a paint-can full of words and emptying it onto a piece of paper (in this case, a forum post), it's just too sloppy to even bother reading sometimes. I must admit that while I do find your thread about reynold's wrap planes to be a good one, I avoided it at first because you started it, and I didn't want to read what you wrote :x
Just start trying to slip in a period or a comma every now and then. It doesn't have to be perfect, but if you seperate your sentences, people will appreciate it =]
ghee-grose
Jan 20, 2006, 01:43 PM
I think this thread needs to be re-named. Maybe to Useless ?
thor4944
Jan 20, 2006, 01:43 PM
anyone know any good replacement foam for the tail of this plane
Darkdevil_725
Jan 20, 2006, 01:47 PM
Styrofoam plates are decent replacements for tails.
but since obviously everyone cares more about my grammar ill jsut leave the forums perminantly.
Dan Leonard
Jan 20, 2006, 01:55 PM
McDonalds foam packaging. Where it is still used. Like the Breakfast platters.
Dan
mmcclain
Jan 20, 2006, 02:16 PM
You can get replacement tails online @ http://www.aeroacemods.com. There are also planes for sale for 29.95 USD.
thor4944
Jan 20, 2006, 02:17 PM
Perfect dan..thanks!!!! I hope I wrote that right!!!
meegosh
Jan 20, 2006, 03:19 PM
You can get replacement tails online @ http://www.aeroacemods.com. There are also planes for sale for 29.95 USD.
Sweet, first site I have seen to offer these for what TRU is selling them for. If only I would've known this before I drove all over the state looking for them. Who would pay $9 for the "landing gear kit"??? Goto walmart and buy the cheapest matchbox car you can find, step 2, take a hammer to it. :) Done! Err, not yet, sort throught the smashed pieces and pick out the wheels and axles. ~$0.50 "Landing gear kit". :D
johndreid
Jan 20, 2006, 08:17 PM
It's pretty messed up to give the guy so much trouble over his writing skills. I can imagine that his post was well understood either way. If you don't have anything better to do than make fun of someone....I think it would be best for you to just stop typing.
Some RC people are anal and think that they are smarter than others. That's why some people think RC is for nerds.....people like you, and you know who you are, prove them right.
As for the Aero Ace.......Remove the bottom wings. It's the best mod in my opinion and will give you better climb rates and WAY longer flying time. It did for me.
Darkdevil_725
Jan 20, 2006, 11:35 PM
thanks johndreid i guess i will stay then.
Darkdevil_725
Jan 21, 2006, 02:33 AM
lol anyways on the Aeroace if you cut along the rudder lines on the stabs i learned this plane tends to turn tighter and help with stalling from high climb rate.
epilot
Jan 21, 2006, 06:35 AM
Let me get this straight: Asking people to correct their spelling or punctuation so you can understand what they are trying to say is not OK but calling people idiots is? What a strange world we live in.
Michael
ace0nater
Jan 21, 2006, 09:47 AM
Ok guys let's forget about the whole spelling thing and get back to what the Thread is really about. The AEROACE -ACE- :cool:
Spongebob
Jan 21, 2006, 12:58 PM
Ok guys let's forget about the whole spelling thing and get back to what the Thread is really about. The AEROACE -ACE- :cool:
That's the most intelligent thing i've heard in this thread in a while...
Anyways, I took off the bottom wings yesterday, but it was too fast (indoors). So I put the bottom wings on the top and made it polyhedral. I'll post a pic in a little while, but right now it's too nose-heavy. I might chop off some of that fat nose and see if I can level things out. If not, I"ll make a thicker tail and see if I can get it to fly in high-alpha. :rolleyes:
Sponge
johndreid
Jan 21, 2006, 09:06 PM
No offense dude, but you really have to start punctuating your sentences. Sentences are truly impossible not to modify, there are endless mods you can do to a sentence to make it easier to read. I mean if it's your way of writing, then so be it, but it would be easier to understand what the hell you're saying sometimes if you try it out.
Attacking someone with intentions of making yourself look smart is different than defending someone who has been attacked....The way you played on the guys words wasn't very funny....it made you look like a smart alec and yes, this is a strange world we live in......
The AeroAce rocks..........:)
Darkdevil_725
Jan 21, 2006, 09:19 PM
tha again john but now that everyone will hopefully leave me alone about my typing one mod a guy has done is taking off the top wing and apply the electronics to the wing to make a simple easy flyer.
johndreid
Jan 21, 2006, 09:40 PM
That sounds interesting. Any pics or links to it?
Darkdevil_725
Jan 21, 2006, 10:51 PM
ya here it is post 945
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401484&page=63&pp=15
Tim Wolff
Jan 21, 2006, 11:07 PM
Gosh! You two "goin steady" now??
johndreid
Jan 22, 2006, 03:53 AM
He's not my type.....:)
I realize I was acting slightly gay with all of that but.........I'm so darn tired of some of these anal babies on here.......They are hell bent on calling you a liar or going at the way you type........Makes me pretty mad. I make it a point these day's to call the idiots out......usaully they shut up and move on and leave me to rant on about it for at least another 3 posts.....lol.......
I'm flying a freakin' toy airplane....who am I to judge?....... :D
IM DONE........
I think I might try this out when I get tired of the areoace....looks kinda cool....in a slightly weird kind of way.
caseyjholmes
Jan 22, 2006, 04:19 AM
Gosh! You two "goin steady" now??
:D :D
I Swear Tim waits for a good joke and nails it on the head every time
Tim: I don't think they have used "going steady" for the last 15 years man! :D I think it is now "going out", but then again, it's been 10 years since JR high.
This thread and microflyers indoor cat video have talked me into buying an AA.
I like some of the mods done with this airplanes electronics as well. Is it really worth my purchase? It looks like it turns alot better than my micro ultrix did (turned about a 60 foot radius! piece of :censored: add your choice of potty language here )
I mean the older micro ultrix single wing with the tiny tail... it's red with a vac formed plastic boom body and carbon tail fuse. Just to be clear. I havn't tried the new bipe ultrix yet.
caseyjholmes
Jan 22, 2006, 04:25 AM
He's not my type.....:)
I think I might try this out when I get tired of the areoace....looks kinda cool....in a slightly weird kind of way.
I agree, losing 5 grams oughta make the plane fly alot better too. Seems like it should fly acceptionally well with that much weight loss. How strong is this moded plane?
johndreid
Jan 22, 2006, 04:57 AM
I would imagine to get at least 14 minutes mandatory flight after this mod. I could be wrong though. I was only getting like 6 or 7 minutes at best with the bottom wings still on....time basically doubled after removing the wings.
The AeroAce is tough as nails......I don't think you can break it. It's so light and built from good quality foam that it pretty much indestructable.
I'm pretty sure that it's the only thing AirHogs ever did right.......:)
mharms
Jan 22, 2006, 07:10 AM
The AA is one heck of a bang for the buck, that's for sure. I have one stock and another with the lower wing taken off (flies better in the wind). I'm not sure I noticed the mono-wing flying any longer -- maybe. Seems like I get nearly 15 minutes with either one. I'll be doing more major mods as soon as I get tired of flying these two as is. I tried the Airhogs Stealth plane a while back and I was not impressed. They got it right with the AA. And it sure is tough. I've bonked a lot of lamposts without hurting the plane at all.
Wow, 5 grams off the stock weight? That guy better do a TX mod to get more low end throttle steps. Or adjust the angle of incidence so he doesn't get so much lift. My planes fly at the 1st or 2nd throttle step for most of their flight time (at least until battery starts to dip).
Not to get on anyone's case about spelling or abbreviations (pretty easy to figure out), but I do find it hard to read posts without periods. Sometimes I have to read a post 3 or 4 times because I can't see where one statement/idea ends and another begins.
Mark
micro_builder
Jan 22, 2006, 09:49 AM
This thread and microflyers indoor cat video have talked me into buying an AA.
I like some of the mods done with this airplanes electronics as well. Is it really worth my purchase?
micro_BUILDER, Casey, not micro_FLYER...i'm full size, i swear!! :D i can only promise you that you wont regret the 30 dollar investment. i've spent a whole lot more on things that wernt nearly as entertaining (i wont mention her name here, she may be watching ;) ). i spent over 100 on the X-Twin mono and bipe version from Silverlit off of ebay back in early august and i dont regret it. the electronics have worked for me till now (have to recheck my 2nd RX), i only just now lost a motor due to a wire being pulled out, and both airframes are in fine working order. try doing that with another AirHogs plane, or any other 30 dollar RTF for that matter!
nick
johndreid
Jan 22, 2006, 07:03 PM
Well....I did the "simple wing" mod as posted a few posts back (#31)......It doesn't fly worth a darn. Has anyone had success with this mod? If so.....about were should the CG be? I taped 2 pennies to the middle of the leading edge and it just nosed into the ground...I used one penny and it still nosed into the ground. I can't find the sweet spot. The AUW of the AeroAce without the body and 1 penny is around .6 - .8 of an ounce....or at least that's what my scales think.
Darkdevil_725
Jan 23, 2006, 12:04 AM
well the guy never posted how well it flys
DaJudge
Jan 23, 2006, 12:22 AM
I'm pretty sure that it's the only thing AirHogs ever did right.......:)
Shhhhh. If you say that too much, it might get back to AirHogs and they'll discontinue them. ;)
Our local Target has been doing an excellent job keeping the AA's coming in nearly as fast as they fly off the shelves. Can't say the same for Toys-R-Us.
We (my two sons and I) now have 4 AA's, but we had to return 3 others that had problems. My old beat-up red one is soon to be sacrificed for it's motors, radio, etc in an attempt to make a micro P-38. I've already got the body done based on some plans posted in another thread. Not hard to make (out of restaurant foam "doggie bag" trays), but I'm figuring it'll be tough to get it balanced and set up correctly.
johndreid
Jan 23, 2006, 03:27 AM
I don't think that this design will work at all. I have tried everything known to man to get this thing to fly and it will not. I am pretty sure that the prop wash on the tail is just too much. I even put the motors on top of the wing and that didn't help. The best flight I had was 4 feet off the ground and I was only able to make 1/2 of a turn before it lost altitude and slammed into the ground. I guess I'll put my AeroAce back together now.......it did fly.
mharms
Jan 23, 2006, 04:03 AM
johndreid,
Could you post some details of your design (like where the CG is now, the wingspan, chord, etc...). Did you extend the tail boom, or keep it stock? Is the tail section modified (like more area to horiz stab, or vert stab)?
What, exactly, did it do when you tried to fly it? Did it rise up, then stall and fall to the ground, or did it just go down in a steep glide? If you just toss it with motors off, does it sort of glide?
Maybe we can help you troubleshoot.
Mark
EZ-400
Jan 23, 2006, 01:31 PM
Checkout my Landing gear mod in thread: "X-Twin, Aeroace post your mods part 2", post 236. I took the Matchbox car wheels idea 1 step further....
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4929194#post4929194
Thanks,
BiG Scott
ghee-grose
Jan 23, 2006, 01:46 PM
Great mod Scott!!! I'm gonna have to try that!
thor4944
Jan 23, 2006, 02:04 PM
An easier and faster way is to take the wheels off one of those rubber band airplanes. Cut the wire off and poke them with hot glue in the foam of the aero ace..oh man how sweet!!!
johndreid
Jan 23, 2006, 03:56 PM
mharms......
The design was pretty simple, or so I thought. I just took the top wings and mounted the tail & electronics to it...just like in the picture. The tail boom is un-modified. The CG has been moved all over this thing....It can not be balanced properly. I tried on and off for over 12 hours while at work last night....it drove me crazy. with a nickel taped to the leading edge of the wing it would fly about 4ft off of the ground and slowly descend. If any turn was made the descent more than doubled.
mharms
Jan 23, 2006, 04:46 PM
mharms......
The design was pretty simple, or so I thought. I just took the top wings and mounted the tail & electronics to it...just like in the picture. The tail boom is un-modified. The CG has been moved all over this thing....It can not be balanced properly. I tried on and off for over 12 hours while at work last night....it drove me crazy. with a nickel taped to the leading edge of the wing it would fly about 4ft off of the ground and slowly descend. If any turn was made the descent more than doubled.
Hmmm... I measured the CG of my mono-wing AA (bottom wing torn off) and it balances at about 1.5 inches behind the leading edge (measured about 0.5 inch out from where the wing attaches to the fuse). Can you get your plane to balance around there? You might need to put weight out on a boom extending forward from the nose. That way you won't need to add so much weight (because of the lever arm).
Also, is your wing at a slight angle relative to the boom? You probably want an angle similar to the stock AA, with the front propped up a little. See the pics for what I mean.
Maybe you tried all this already.
Mark
Martyn McKinney
Jan 23, 2006, 06:00 PM
One reason why the Aeroace is so stable is that it is basically a high wing plane with a signficant weight under the wing which acts as a stabilizing pendulum.
For fun why not try tying a string around your nickel and suspending it under the center of gravity of the aircraft so that it hangs about 3 inches below while flying.
I was amazed at the increase in stability that occurred with another differential control plane that I had in which the battery pack had fallen out of the fuselage but was still attached by the wires.
caseyjholmes
Jan 23, 2006, 06:02 PM
micro_BUILDER, Casey, not micro_FLYER...i'm full size, i swear!! :D i can only promise you that you wont regret the 30 dollar investment.
nick
my bad my bad :D :D
On my way to target/walmart/toys r us to scope the situation for AA's.
Thanks for the info, sounds like it's worth my dalla
Casey
caseyjholmes
Jan 23, 2006, 07:29 PM
score!
found a jet, and the AA at target no prob
toys R us had super slick blue motors for $2... about 100 of them! plenty in stock for super slick motors but no AA's
got the black AA too! nice, just my color :D
caseyjholmes
Jan 23, 2006, 07:58 PM
Wholy monkey! they do fly inside! I gotta get a video of this puppy! I agree, worth every penny, and then some. Very suprised how well it flies in my living room. I'm going to try and balance it back some to slow it down a bit for even tighter turning. Great sudgestion guys, now any of my friends can give indoor a shot when they come over without fear of breaking something.
Casey
tman52804
Jan 23, 2006, 08:05 PM
How does the jet fly compared to the Aero ace?
caseyjholmes
Jan 23, 2006, 08:32 PM
spent my last hour of sunlight inside with the AA lol.
I'll report how the jet flies tomorrow, or if it does fly inside I'll find out in a minute. I figure it has some bigger looking motors in it, so it probably flies a bit faster. Not sure yet though, havn't tried.
So far, I give the Aero Ace an A+, but this might be reduced to an A because of somewhat short battery life. I've only charged it for 4 mins as the instructions say though, out of a max 8 mins
edit:
yeah, the jet is for outside only :D tomorrow I'll find out
micro_builder
Jan 23, 2006, 08:54 PM
the lipos seem to need to be cycled a few times to get the going at their best. i also found that using my own charger gave me a few extra minutes of flight time. in fact, today i brought my AA to work, flew it for about 10 minutes during first break, then another 10 minutes later at lunch. thats with no charges in between, so a combined 20 minutes of flying on one charge. not too shabby for a little 130mah. my boss said he'd be buying one for his kid after i let him fly it :rolleyes:
i'll be waiting to see how the jet performs, it looked like the rest of airhogs planes, heavy and underpowered (and with that silly single stick TX). the only way i got any other airhogs plane to fly was by swapping out the NiMH packs they use with a lipo, and shaving as much weight as possible, then they wernt actually half bad. i used a BladeRunner RX (full proportional on 3 channels, mixed for thrust differential), and the Defender that was a brick with wings became a very nice, docile flyer.
nick
caseyjholmes
Jan 23, 2006, 09:04 PM
just to be clear,
my living room = 15x20 ft , not including the hand rails I have to avoid
=)
johndreid
Jan 23, 2006, 09:33 PM
I gave up on the wing and tail idea that I was working on.....I have now made something from FFF that looks almost like a B2 Stealth bomber. It's pretty unstable at this point but does try to fly. It pretty much does the same thing as the "Simple Wing" that I tried earlier. It fllies about 3ft off the ground for around 20ft or so....thats it. The AeroAce is very sensitive to the CG I think.......I'll keep trying untill the electronics give up :)
Cr8zykid08
Jan 23, 2006, 10:04 PM
Has any one tried to open up the areo ace and see if there's any slack on the motor wires. If there's slack then you could move the motors out farther on the wing. By doing that you should get a better turning radius¿ "¿RIGHT¿"
solo_clipper
Jan 23, 2006, 10:36 PM
Just got mine today but too windy to fly. When I power off one motor spins longer than the other. Does this mean I have a problem? Is there a picture in one of these treads of where the center of gravity should be, on an unmodded AA with just the weight added in the front? Seems to work ok, I have been just scooting around on the floor, belly slidding and I can turn on a dime :rolleyes: Almost ready to do my first maiden in my little living room :eek:
craig9114
Jan 23, 2006, 10:49 PM
I used to have one of the earlier air hogs rc planes. I enjoyed it but it had no proportional control. Also, you couldnt give two inputs at the same time, e.g. you couldnt climb and turn at the same time.
Is the aero ace different? Are both steering and throttle proportional?
Can you climb and turn at the same time, without switching back and forth between turn and thrust controls?
Thanks in advance!
ace0nater
Jan 23, 2006, 10:52 PM
No more scalloping during flights. Here are the mods I made to my aero ace. It is now a smooth flyer with a great glide rate. I cut off the bottom wings at the body and cut 2 inches off of the bottom wings. I took the 2 inch peices and sanded an angle to match the wing tips with a 1/2 inch rise at the new tip.A little foam safe ca and I had a whole new look. After flight testing I had to add 7 size #6 lead shot to the nose to get my cg correct. Now I had a great glide rate.Finally I still had some scalloping with full throttle so I had to change the wing incidence, not wanting to cut the fuselage, I shimmed the back of the motor down which helps push the nose of the aircraft down in flight. A small trim with an exacto knife to blend the trailing edge of the wings and now this thing flys like a dream. This is to much fun for under 30 dollars. Let me know if you like it. Ace
ronmar1
Jan 23, 2006, 10:54 PM
the lipos seem to need to be cycled a few times to get the going at their best. i also found that using my own charger gave me a few extra minutes of flight time. in fact, today i brought my AA to work, flew it for about 10 minutes during first break, then another 10 minutes later at lunch. thats with no charges in between, so a combined 20 minutes of flying on one charge.nick
Nick;
What kind of charger are you using that will charge the AA? Have you done some kind of mod to the battery circuit? There's something in the AA charging circuit that fools the charger into seeing a full charge status.
I have 3 different lipo chargers and I attached a led off an AA TX to each and tried to charge the lipo in the plane, but each charger shows a full charge even though the battery is exhausted.
Ron
micro_builder
Jan 23, 2006, 11:05 PM
hi Ron,
i'm using an Apache 20/20 charger. but, i'm not plugging into the charging socket on the RX. i cut the lipo off from the RX and soldered my own micro connectors on it so i could take the battery out and charge it, or use any of my other batteries.
i prefer charing the cell with my own charger, it saves TX battery power and also probably preserves the cells overall life (from what i remember, the TX charges the battery at a rate higher than 1C. i'm sure its fine for the cell, but i'll stick with my Apache).
nick
ronmar1
Jan 23, 2006, 11:35 PM
Thanks Nick!
Great Idea. Looks like I will be digging into the micro stuff again. Is that about a 145mah battery?
I appreciate the pic also.
Ron
caseyjholmes
Jan 24, 2006, 03:57 AM
modified the jet before even attempting flight stock. here is the new airhogs BL powered
f16 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=85
crvogt
Jan 24, 2006, 08:19 AM
I couldn't help but wonder if the Li-po in the AA could discharge too far to be recharged.. is there a low voltage cut off?? I know from other discussions about li-pos if you get below 2.75v per cell you can damage the cells... how low does the AA li-po go??? Just wondering I had my AA get stuck in a tree, and the motors kept running untill I got it down from the tree (took a wile to get the pole).. was worried that the battery could be over discharged.
Graham Smith
Jan 24, 2006, 09:23 AM
Yes they have a low voltage cut off. Mine spent a night stuck in a tree (i'm not the only person this has happened to!) and it blew down the next day.
I'ts still flying just as well after recharging.
The other Graham
micro_builder
Jan 24, 2006, 05:29 PM
no problem, Ron. the cell in the picture is the stock AA battery, which is a Fullriver 130mah lipo.
casey, the F-16 looks excellent, cant wait for some pictures. funny that even after installing a new RX, BL controller, BL motor, 2 servos and lipo battery, the AUW is still lighter than the stock weight. its no wonder why no other Airhog planes ever fly (well, none of the ones i tried at least).
nick
johndreid
Jan 24, 2006, 07:07 PM
Success with a Guillows StarFire and the AeroAce electronics. Please post your planes built with AeroAce electronics HERE http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=469552#post4936751
You can also read more about the StarFire that I built. It flies better than the AeroAce ever did.
craig9114
Jan 24, 2006, 08:53 PM
I posted this earlier but got no response. Please help!
I used to have one of the earlier air hogs rc planes. I enjoyed it but it had no proportional control. Also, you couldnt give two inputs at the same time, e.g. you couldnt climb and turn at the same time.
Is the aero ace different? Are both steering and throttle proportional?
Can you climb and turn at the same time, without switching back and forth between turn and thrust controls?
Thanks in advance!
rcnyc78
Jan 24, 2006, 09:12 PM
Has any one tried to open up the areo ace and see if there's any slack on the motor wires. If there's slack then you could move the motors out farther on the wing. By doing that you should get a better turning radius¿ "¿RIGHT¿"
There's some slack. I would say 3/4".
Spongebob
Jan 24, 2006, 09:13 PM
craig,
The throttle is proportional, but only 5-7 steps. The turning is not Propo, but with all honesty you won't miss it too much. And yes, you can turn and give throttle at the same time. According to many, Air Hogs actually "Got it right" this time. It could be better, but for the price, the AA is unbeatable.
Sponge
mmcclain
Jan 24, 2006, 10:09 PM
Cool videos of the aero ace landing gear mod. www.aeroacemods.com/aam/gallery/
ghee-grose
Jan 24, 2006, 10:47 PM
Here's a picture I snapped in between the kamikaze attacks my son was doing at my head this afternoon while we were doing FULL CONTACT combat. That means, hit the person, not each others airplane. **got that idea from Tram**
ronmar1
Jan 24, 2006, 11:00 PM
Well I was trying to figure a way to recharge the AA lipo with out the expense of all those aa alkaline batteries.
Here's what I did.
I opened the back on one of my AA transmitters. (I have more than one on the same freq.) I drilled a small hole through the back, fed the leads of a battery connector through the hole, and attached the red lead to the positive post of battery box with solder. Then I did the same with the black lead to the negitive post on the battery box. This will be the two end posts of the battery box. Do not use the middle post. Put the back on the TX and I'm done.
Now I have a use for those old 9.6 volt nicads packs I have laying around. I simply attach the 9.6 volt nicad to the TX (With the aa batteries removed from the TX!!!!!) and get numerious charges from the nicad pack. When the nicad pack gets weak, I just pull out that old nicad charger that's drawing dust and charge it back up!
Works great! I just dedicated this TX for charging purposes only. If you later need the Tx to fly with, just unplug the nicad pack, install aa batteries and go fly.
Ron
Hepdog
Jan 25, 2006, 03:17 AM
With so many threads on the Aero Ace and mods I have no idea where my post belongs, so here it shall rest. Correct my spelling at your own risk ;) :)
I have 2 Ace's (or is it Ace-I). Great little flyers mostly stock. I have done the throttle spring mod (a must have) and now the wing add-on (way faster but requires weight adjustment). The throttle diode mod is next.
Have any of you tried the "Streamer Mod"???
Simply put, the stock Aero Ace can tow a fairly long and light streamer with no problems. Actually, it really tamed one of my Ace's flight habits - go figure.
If someone can figure out a way to make the streamers "cutable" with the pusher prop config, we have ourselves a whole new reason to have all 3 channels up at the same time.
Too much fun for $40..... :eek:
mharms
Jan 25, 2006, 03:48 AM
Hepdog,
On your extended wingspan AA -- Where is the CG? What sort of "weight adjustment" was needed?
Mark
ronmar1
Jan 25, 2006, 08:58 AM
If someone can figure out a way to make the streamers "cutable" with the pusher prop config, we have ourselves a whole new reason to have all 3 channels up at the same time.
Too much fun for $40..... :eek:
Who needs streamers!! My Grandson and I do AA combat all the time with ours. We just knock the heck out of each others planes and try to recover before we hit the ground.
After many midair connections we've yet to damage a plane. Tough little birds!! Try it!
Ron
Vario3
Jan 25, 2006, 07:46 PM
I have done the throttle spring mod (a must have) and now the wing add-on (way faster but requires weight adjustment).
With the wing extensions, could you give it maybe 1/2" sweepback to make it more "noseheavy" without adding weight?
noneedforanam88
Jan 25, 2006, 08:09 PM
Good day all, i have been reading the threads for a few weeks now, and this is my first post. Anyway, i broke down last night and finally picked up an Aero Ace. I can now see why everyone is saying "this is the best $30.00 i have ever spent." It really is a great flying plane. But with everyone in here doing all sorts of mods it kinda peaqued my interest of what I may be able to do. But I would hate to tear up my great flying little ace, maybe to my next one. Anyway, I saw someone in here make a little harrier jet. Very cool. My question is this, would it be possible to make a ducted fan out of the stock motors and props on the AA? if it is possible, would you still be able to make a turn? is it even worth it to try? any thoughts would be appreciated.
well, off to the park to fly my plane.
Tsquare
Jan 25, 2006, 08:27 PM
Finally got an AeroAce at Target today. When I took a look it has a trim knob on the Tx. Says to use to adjust for straight flight. Haven't read anything here about this. Does it work? I put on the little parts for adjusting the trim tabs and have seen talk about those.
Gene
ghee-grose
Jan 25, 2006, 08:31 PM
The throttle trim works.
bEbOp ¿?
Jan 26, 2006, 10:43 AM
Try not to use the Silver Metal Tabs. Put your trim knob in center make sure your plane is all square. Give it a toss And adjust MOTORS so it flys as straight as posible. Use Trim knob for Little adjustments.
This way you get more even Left and Right turns. With the Trim Knob Centered out your motors will also Wear out more even. Use some 3 in 1 household oil on motor shafts too. When my planes fly Perfect Even Left and Right turns I Put a small dot of hot glue so I dont have to adjust them again.
thor4944
Jan 26, 2006, 11:07 AM
where do you put the oil on.....the area of the shaft between the motor and prop? Then when you get it perfect you put the hotglue where?
thanks
bEbOp ¿?
Jan 26, 2006, 11:37 AM
Yeah just alittle Oil On the shaft and brass bearing. I flew my old one ALOT in the snow with tape over the RX. I think the Water and the fact that I didn't Oil the old motors made them sieze up. Now I oil them all up all the time.
I put a SMALL dot of glue on the rear of the motor where the foam forms a cowl and the wires exit. The Contact cement AirHogs uses will become less sticky the more you pull the motors on and off. Even with Scotch double side tape its not a Super strong bond and somtimes my motor would fall off in a harsh crash.
thor4944
Jan 26, 2006, 12:09 PM
Brass bearing??? Is it just between the motor and prop right
bEbOp ¿?
Jan 26, 2006, 12:36 PM
Yep, Oil the part of the shaft that meets the motor. Use a little every 10~20 flights. "Tooth pick wick amount" One drop. Dont take the props off.
edee61
Jan 26, 2006, 10:49 PM
Where is everyone getting Props for these at? I`ve crashed mine and lost a prop. THANKS for any help!!!!!!!
ronmar1
Jan 26, 2006, 11:08 PM
Hey edee61 form Sparta!!! ronmar1 from Maryville!!
You can buy spare props from an online source, (aeroacemods.com) but you have to buy 2 motors and 2 props combined for $12.00. By the time you pay shipping of $6.00, why not just buy another plane and then you've got spares?
Air Hogs doesn't offer replacement parts for the planes.
Ron
cjz89civic
Jan 26, 2006, 11:42 PM
Already posted above
Hepdog
Jan 27, 2006, 09:40 AM
Flew the extended wing orange Ace last night indoors. It was mostly stock, except the bottome wings were pulled cleanly from their home and hot glued to the tips of the top wings. Nose weight was slightly more than is required for the Bipe version - a smallish wood screw and a small steel washer. No motor thrust change.
It flew very nice, but turns were rather large. We tried motors angled in and out, but the turning radius was still almost the whole gym. I found out later that there is additional slack in the motor wires and the motors could be moved out quite a bit to improve the differential steering effect. However, we ended up going mono-high wing and were having too much fun hitting each other to play with the more "graceful" extended wing.
She'd be pretty nice on a calm day outside, really wants to "fly".
GOK
Jan 29, 2006, 02:10 AM
Hi all,
Does anyone know if I can find this plane in Australia?
I've tried TosRus and only found the air pressured ones. They dont stock them in Target or Kmart either.
Cheers,
GOK
rcbif
Jan 29, 2006, 11:07 AM
Hi all,
Does anyone know if I can find this plane in Australia?
I've tried TosRus and only found the air pressured ones. They dont stock them in Target or Kmart either.
Cheers,
GOK
are there any wal-marts down under? I saw some there
jmcgill
Feb 03, 2006, 07:35 PM
just bought what i thought was an air hog plane. when i took a good look at package found it was a Estes model....something called a pee wee flyer. thought what the heck...will give it a try. leaves a lot to be desired.
johndreid
Feb 03, 2006, 10:46 PM
jmcgill...............I would appreciate your reveiw of this product on my thread...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=459920
Thanks,
John
micro_builder
Feb 03, 2006, 11:33 PM
the PeeWee flyer is a pretty decent bird if you remove its electronics and replace them with "real" RC equipment, even bitcar electronics will do the job. i have one sitting on my bench as we speak. the wings themselves are almost worth the price.
nick
shazaam
Jun 18, 2006, 11:36 AM
Well, I just finished winning a solar car event, and i was thinking, could someone figure out how to turn the plane on and charge at the same time? because if that is possible, the a solar panel could be mounted in the top wing, providing neverending outdoor flight time. All youd need to do would be to plug the solar panel into the charge port. Don't forget to put a cover over the panel to not break it.
If this works, could you tell me what you used, as I don't have much money to spare for testing different solar panels and several planes.
p.s. scrath that last bit, this is cool. Im all in
Bobber Bob
Jun 18, 2006, 12:40 PM
Hi shaz...
Well, in your solar car adventure, you learned about what output to expect from a solar cell of a given size, so what area of solar cell are you going to need to power two motors drawing just under 400 mah each...??
There is also a weight consideration, and we are only talking a couple of grams that are available to be added to the stock Aero Ace.
Now, if you want to design your own plane, using the Aero Ace gear, then you will have to try to keep it at no more then 20 to 22 grams. Yes, you could expand the wingspan alot, but the differintial steering gets pretty hazy, the larger you go.
Bob
Bob Reynolds
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PS... The wing area of a stock Aero Ace is 20.4 inches square (the top wing, by itself). Most of the weight of a solar cell, on the top wing panel would be ahead of the C of G.
So if your panel(s) are no more then 20 square inches, and can be made to use that area with a 8 5/8" by 2 3/8" shape, and put out about an amp, and weigh no more then 2 or 3 grams, and are thin and flexable enough so as not to change the top wing's contour, you may have stumbled on to something..!!
shazaam
Jun 18, 2006, 02:57 PM
ok, scratch all that, there a decent panel there for $3.50, but it puts out 76.2 Amps. if i divert the extra power to the battery, is there a way I could build in a cut off? (I dont know what would happen i I over fill the battery, but it doesnt bode well.) the panel weights about 85 percent of a gram. could everyone check my math? the operating current is 22 mA ( or 25, if i opt for the better fit one) and it weights about .03 of a ounce. the site for it is here for the 2.5 by 1.5
http://www.siliconsolar.com/shop/catalog/Flexible-Solar-Panels-3v-4v-05-1282-p-14.html
and here for the 4.5 by 1
http://www.siliconsolar.com/shop/catalog/Flexible-Solar-Panels-3v-4v-05-1283-p-16158.html
would i need a resister of something?
34Ford
Jun 20, 2006, 08:14 AM
Yea, thats whats happens when you buy a AA and you turn the wrong way. :D
I like to have never found the little thing, but I will have to say they are tough.
I also like the fact that with both wings on they help protect the props. :)
Well I did the throttle spring removal and the diodes in the TX mods.
But is it norman for the plane to fly best when at its lowest throttle? If I open the throttle all the way up, it wants to porpoise real bad.
relaxr
Jun 20, 2006, 08:43 AM
34 Ford - thats the compromise for the missing rudders. In slow fllight you go level in a nice manner, throttled up you porpoise it upstairs. With optimal trimming this can be imho reduced to an acceptable level. Sounds like yours needs just a bit of weight on its nose (+1/2 gr or so) or some bend down of the tail.
34Ford
Jun 20, 2006, 11:01 AM
I tried just a touch of down elevator but then at slow throttle, well it went to the ground. :)
I tried a little nose weight, but I might try more to get a happy medium.
Dennis
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