New Shed

[Capt_Christo]

Well after looking at everybody elses nice work areas, I decided I am tired of working in a cupboard.

Sunday is the beginning of my NEW SHED odyssey.

I will post pics of the progress as it happens. Rough dimensions of the new shed is 7m x 3 m.

Stay tuned, and have a great Christmas!

[Kmot]

Woot! :D

7x3 is huge!

[green-boat]

That's the size of a 1 car garage.

[Roger in France]

Capt Christo, your thread caught my eye as I am investing in a new worksop in April (the builder cannot start before then). I have a filter room/garden tool store about 5m x 10m ajacent to the pool. French law requires that I enclose the pool to prevent access by a child under 8. So, I am having a wall built and the store extended at the same time, approximately doubling the workshop area. "Well dearest it works out very economical"!!!!

So I shall have plenty of space but the large (24 hp mower and all the garden equipment have to go in as well).

At the moment I am wondering what heating to put in. Gas (wet); liquid fuel (too wet and smelly); electric (expensive but probably the only viable choice with an oil filled radiator on a thermostat to maintain dryness and bakground heat, then a blow heater to raise the temperature for working.

I shall be very interested in your progress and design as layout is all important.

I found 2 small books in the "Worksho Practice Series" which are a bit dated but look interesting (cheap, paper back): "Workshop Construction" ISBN 1-85486-131-X this is #23 in the series and "Workshop Electrics" ISBN 1-85486-107-7 which is #22.

Good luck keep us informed,

Roger in France

[martin richards]

Woot! :D

7x3 is huge!
Bah, still only big enough to do his tug in 1/2 scale :p

[Treetop]

At the moment I am wondering what heating to put in. Gas (wet); - Roger in France

I don't know what you mean by gas (wet). Are you talking about natural gas?

I have a great heater in my shop, it is natural gas, and has venting through the wall, otherwise known as a direct vent heater. In addition, the fresh air supply for the heater is brought in through a separate section of the vent, and the flames of the heater are not exposed to the air in the shop. My shop is for woodworking and I studied this problem for a long time, trying to find an economical solution. The fact that there is no ignition source exposed to the shop air is great, due to the possibility of sawdust, and finishing products interacting with the heater. [BOOM! :eek:] It also has a millivolt thermostat, which requires no electricity to operate. So when our power goes out, the heater in the shop still works. During an ice storm the whole family was in the shop huddled around this heater. You can get them here for about $400 and up depending on the BTUs, which includes all the venting, I opted for a variable speed fan, to boost the circulation, which is otherwise by convection. The one I have is about 80% efficient. tt

[Roger in France]

Soory, did not make it clear...I meant gas from a free standing cannister. I had a boiler/furnace like the one you describe at my former home in England. I was very pleased with it. However, no piped gas supply here.

Roger in France.

[Treetop]

The oil filled electric makes sense. And something else to bring the temp up quickly.

Here in the US, the portable electrics are limited to 1500 watts, which is pretty small. tt

[wingnut163]

thats the same kind theat we use in oure trailers (caravans over there). they are good space heaters. the gas here is LP propane.
good choice.

[Capt_Christo]

Step 1 of the great shed oddssey has been completed. (thunderous applause)

(I now have sore muscles where I didn't know I had muscles) :censored:

Here is the before pics. Space under the back verandah and the shed in the back yard

[Capt_Christo]

After 8.5 hours of strenuous labour...Ta Dah!!!

Shed has been dissassembled, straightened, trimmed down and inserted under the verandah.

[Capt_Christo]

Next step after Christmas (and my back has recovered) is to remove the tree.

This will be acheived over several weekends.

Have a great Christmas!

[Roger in France]

Great progress Capt. but think naught of your back until you have felled the tree, carted the waste and (most demanding of all) grubbed out the roots. I have two huge pines to remove and am dreading the prospect! Three small apple trees will also have to go before my worshop gets done. Not sure we should be admitting to felling trees as the "Friends of All Trees" are probably reading our every word.

Just keep reciting the mantra "It will all be worth it in the end".

Roger in France

[Capt_Christo]

My wife looked at the vacant space previously occupied by the tree and declared her plans for a 'nice pagola'.

OVER MY DEAD BODY!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I'm not going through all this for a :censored: pagola


Roger,

I already have local council permission for the tree removal. Permit cost $75. Fine for illegal removal of a native tree is $5000.

When the tree is removed, a little man with a huge grinding thing will come along and grind out the stump. No way I'm doing it!

After that I have to complete the repairs to the retaining wall before the shed building can begin. I will lay a timber floor over the existing slab, as I am too lazy to jack hammer it up.

Cheers

[wingnut163]

i don't understand why you moved the shed under the porch, just to build a new shed for your hobbys. you could have put your hobbys work shed under the porch, made it a bit bigger and the electric heat and what ever you needed would have been right there. no tree removel, no $75. permit. no pogota

[Capt_Christo]

Hi Wing,

The new shed is 7m x 3m. No way will it fit under the verandah.

In the shed will be my workbench and extra bench for lathe and drill/mill. Also slot car track (my other hobby) which is 4.8m x 1.8m.

I will post up the plans for the new shed when I get some time.

Have a great Christmas!

[Treetop]

Some slot car track pics would be nice as well.

I was looking at the pictures of the Christmas party at the place I used to work (on the internet) and noticed my old boss, (the owner) has a professionally built six lane slot car track in his basement of the type that used to be commercially popular here when I was a kid (pay to use it by the half hour). 1/24 or 1/32 scale cars. I am jealous! Of course his company does $75,000,000 a year, guess he can afford it. tt

[Capt_Christo]

Hi Tree et al,

Have included some shots of the track as set up on the verandah. Unfortunatley it takes up 90% of the verandah, so I only get it up once a year (maybe I should rephrase that).

When the track gets its new home in the shed, I will be able to add more scenery.

A friend of mine had a track in the basement of his furniture shop along with his Scalextric collection (valued at around A$130,000 est. Lost the lot when the shop burnt to the ground.)

[green-boat]

Years ago I worked in a hobby shop that was big into the slot car thing. They had 2- 1/24-1/32 scale tracks, 6 and 8 lane going all day long. When the slot car craze died off they tried selling them, no takers. Then tried giving them away, still no takers. They got busted up and used as dumpster filler. My boss did keep an Auroura HO scale factory test track with 6 lanes. The track was mounted onto a fiberglass molded base about 6' by 10'. He still has it to this day and uses it. The last time I saw it was about 15 years ago.

[Treetop]

Thanks for the pics, Capt. Very nice, adding scenery would be really cool, seen lots of trains done up nice, but never a race track, should be very interesting. tt

[Capt_Christo]

Well I've started on the tree...man this sucker is huge, and very spikey, I'm covered in scratches....ouch!

[der kapitan]

Capt Christo said:

"Well I've started on the tree...man this sucker is huge, and very spikey, I'm covered in scratches....ouch!"

Hi Captain C,

I don't know if you have a fireplace, but that tree may well prove to be a blessing if you do. Good luck on the stump and roots, though.

Most houses up where I live have basements, and I'm lucky to have built my workshop down there, and not have to undergo the chore that you're now presently suffering through for extra space. If I had to, I'd most likely still
be doing things on the kitchen table.

You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din---.

[Capt_Christo]

Finally the tree is GONE! Now for the stump.