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dll932
Dec 06, 2005, 10:05 PM
OK, I know just hooking up a VOM to a battery won't give good info since it won't place a load on the line. I also know I can buy battery testers that'll test "standard" cells (AA, C, 9V, etc.) with a load, but I'd like to test batteries with voltages like 3.6V, etc. Anyone know what resistors would make suitable loads to put in parellel with the VOM at various voltages?
slipstick
Dec 07, 2005, 03:48 AM
It depends entirely on what load (current) you want to put on the battery.
Ohms law V = IR (Voltage V = current I times resistance R)
So Resistance R = Voltage V divided by Current I
e.g. if you want to use a load of 200mA (0.2A) on your 3.6V battery
R = 3.6 / 0.2 = 18 ohms.
Steve
dll932
Dec 07, 2005, 11:54 AM
Thanks! Actually, this is more about cellphones, cameras, drills, etc. I can see I'm gonna have to get current draw figures.
JohnMuchow
Dec 07, 2005, 03:59 PM
Be sure that the resistors you buy can deal with the power levels they need to dissipate (as heat):
Power = Current times Current times Resistance
P = (I-squared)(R)
OR...
Power = Voltage times Current
P = VI
The second equation is easier when a single resistor is used. The first one is esier to use, IMHO, when you have multiple resistors in series or parallel.
To ensure that the resistors aren't blazingly hot, don't exceed 50% of their rating. That is, if you have 5 watts being dissipated, buy a 10 watt resistor or use multiple resistors in parallel or series to divide the power dissipation among them.
dll932
Dec 07, 2005, 10:38 PM
Thanks! About the beefiest battery I'd test would be 18v, 2a.
vintage1
Dec 08, 2005, 05:39 AM
Thanks! About the beefiest battery I'd test would be 18v, 2a.
see if you can find an old lab RHEOSTAT on ebay or elsewhere..
These are big variable resistors that can take quite a lot of current.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Milvay-Rheostat-size-6_W0QQitemZ6586453034QQcategoryZ361QQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem
Chippie
Dec 08, 2005, 06:26 AM
Here's a circuit to simulate a variable load....can take up to 40amps+
JohnMuchow
Dec 08, 2005, 07:08 AM
Here's a circuit to simulate a variable load....can take up to 40amps+Aren't transistors #3 to #6 always biased full on? With their gates connected to the +++ lead, the gate drive can't be adjusted.
Or, is it very late and I'm missing something. :)
Dan Baldwin
Dec 08, 2005, 10:50 AM
John, I think this is what he meant, but it's would be a very tricky current source to use. I believe that the turn on would be very sudden. Setting a particular current would take a very steady hand, and the current would drop off very quickly as the battery voltage lowers. Transistors hooked in parallel that way have a tendency to not play well together because of minor differences in turn on voltage. One transistor ends up taking most of the current. A small resistor in the emitter of each transistor would help to equalize the load, and give it a more gradual turn on.
Dan
dll932
Dec 08, 2005, 11:11 AM
What I was thinking of doing was to make a box with a rotary switch hooked to various resistors-not good enough?
vintage1
Dec 08, 2005, 11:53 AM
I am amazed. A rheostat that does all you want can be bought secondhand for far less than all these compnenets, and its simpler, and it is more reliable...
Why not use a bunch of car headlamp bulbs if all you want is to dump power..
JohnMuchow
Dec 08, 2005, 02:45 PM
Dan, that's more what I was thinking it should be. I agree about the emitter resistor.
Vintage1...well, we never said it was a better idea, just another one. :)
And it's a heck of a lot smaller and lighter than the rheostat.
simingx
Dec 08, 2005, 09:48 PM
I have a 400 watt electronic load that I posted here a while back... If there's any interest I'll dig up the thread. :)
dll932
Dec 08, 2005, 10:00 PM
Sure, if you can. Thanks!
simingx
Dec 09, 2005, 10:29 AM
Here you go...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200602
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