TRex model for Aerofly Professional?

[sharky47]

Title pretty much says it, looking for a model file I can use to practice flying my TRex on the sim.

[goteron]

I found one a while back, but it was horrible, the model looked alright, but performed nothing like a real trex. I would love to have one for AFP also.

[dan4879]

In my opinion AFP isnt good for helis anyway. I fly helis on it all the time and its great for building up reflexes for flying and getting stick movements down, but it just doesnt have the realistic feeling reflex or even g3 have.

[Minimole]

What about AFPD (deluxe), how realistic is that for helis?
I think AFPD has a T-Rex in it.

Duane.

[goteron]

I have deluxe, and it doesnt have it, but maybe they are selling a new version now, I got mine in august.

[Chris True]

I have AFP and find it quite realistic once you tweak the model a bit. The heli's all have heading hold turned off, are a little low on power (sometimes a lot low like the Eco) and sometimes need the cyclic throws bumped up a bit but the flight dynamics feel right to me. An Eco feels a little flitty, a Logo 20 feels rock steady yet flippable etc..

[chuckyteets]

Afp Is No Good For HelicoPTers.

[dan4879]

They're all way to stable..I can do tick-tocs on the deck for a minute straight and not have to tough the ailerons once. That is not realistic.

I do agree its still an essential tool for learning to fly a heli. Being able to gain reflexes is what learning to fly is about.

I guess my only point is that any heli in AFP will do. I use the 3d with a little tweaking. Its only useful to have a specific model if you are after the look.

[Minimole]

I do agree its still an essential tool for learning to fly a heli. Being able to gain reflexes is what learning to fly is about.


Essential? I wouldnt say that. I, and many others, have learnt to fly helis without using a sim once.
Helpful yes, but not essential.

Duane.

[sharky47]

I learned to fly heli with NO simulator time........

That being said - I am practicing 3D ALOT on the sim before I even think about inverting my Trex. Right now I am using the Raptor with "time" slowed down to about 75% to work on control inputs needed to fly upside-down.

[dan4879]

Youre right, I guess by saying that I only ment that it helps very much and saves you money on a few first crashes.

[Minimole]

Yep, Im sure they will help a lot during learning.

saves you money on a few first crashes.

Not too sure about that though, cant say Ive broken £100+ on spares during learning, or even ever...!

Duane :D

[sharky47]

I never had a crash with my Blade CP that cost more than $30.....

[Nick J]

i have never used a sim

[dan4879]

Not too sure about that though, cant say Ive broken £100+ on spares during learning, or even ever...!

Duane :D


You sure like to argue a lot.

[chuckyteets]

I spent nearly a full year on Reflex before getting my Raptor 50. First flight I did hurricanes, inverted hovering/flight, backwards flight, and some other things. It may not save you money in crashing, but it will save you fuel costs with learning how to hover and orientations.

I didn't have my first crash until several months later, and it was only because I brought stationary pirouetting flips about 10 inches too low.

Personally I think anyone that doesn't think a Sim is useful or worth it has no idea what they're talking about or what they're missing.

Edit: And I am NOT saying you can't learn without them, hell they haven't always been around and people definitely still managed to learn maneuvers... It just takes longer. More stick time, sim or no sim, makes you a better pilot. It's just much easier for most to get in some time on a computer rather than driving out to a field for 2 or 3 flights.

[monts]

So does anyone have a Trex that flies close to true for AFPD?

[Neil Walker]

I have AFPD, and I have the Trex model for it. While I'm just a noob (flying a little fixed pitch and currently building a Trex) right away even I can tell that it's not terribly realistic. It's twitchy as heck and can do ridiculous things. For example I can do a funnel with it! A friend of mine who is an extremely good 3D heli pilot tried it and his reaction was "Whoooa! what the??? This thing is weird!" ... if that gives you any idea. The model sure looks pretty. I do have lots of experience doing simulations (I worked on the programming team for a popular PC driving sim) so maybe when I actually learn what a real Trex flies like (and learn to fly it properly ;)) I'll have a crack at doing up some proper physics for the model.

One thing I have read though is that AFP and AFPD don't simulate translational lift at all - the increase in lift as the heli starts to move fast enough to get out of its rotor wash, or gets a gust of wind big enough to move the rotor wash away from under it. Even with my noob status I would expect that this is a rather important aspect of the flight model to get right! The only one I know of that does for sure is Reflex XTR. G3 might, and my buddy with all the heli experience seems to think G3 is pretty good. Personally I'm not good enough yet to tell the difference.

Even with those shortcomings, mucking about on AFPD with the FP Piccolo model for a few evenings did allow me to pretty much pick up my Hummingbird and start hovering it right away. Not even close to a crash yet and I've started to work on side-in hovering.