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kevin
Oct 17, 2005, 06:48 PM
Just thought i would share my latest project. This is a china model products 182 arf available from giantscaleplanes or ak-models. it has a 63 inch wingspan. glass fuse built up wood wing. I converted it with an axi 2826/10 4s2p apogee 2480's (apogee-not happy with them currently-thats a different story) 11x8.5 prop. jeti 77opto controller. sbec.

Althought the crosswing takeoff was alittle harry (tail heavy). once in the air it flew good after getting used to the tail heavy tendencies. More than enough power. large loops, very fast flybys. lands very slow, although it doesnt like our grass strip much due to the wheel pants (we have a paved strip also). I moved the packs up to help with the balance. hope to get another flight this weekend.

B717 Furloughee
Oct 17, 2005, 06:57 PM
Looks nice. What's the AUW? How are the temps on the Axi? How long are your flights? :)

kevin
Oct 17, 2005, 07:05 PM
6lbs. 4 oz. rtf.

First flight was just over ten minutes but i landed early because it was tail heavy. nice scale like flight at just under half throttle, so i am sure i could get a much longer flight.

axi temp.... it was just above room temp, but i wasnt pushing it hard at all.

papasmurf
Oct 18, 2005, 12:09 AM
How is the fiberglass work...Is it well done and durable? If you have any closer pics it would be appreciated. I saw some on ebay and they mentioned flaps? Are they functional....Looks good!

kevin
Oct 18, 2005, 08:49 AM
no flaps. the fiberglass and paint work looks good but it is a bit heavy.

kevin
Oct 23, 2005, 09:11 PM
second flight today with the packs moved forward. Much better. The plane tracks very well. no bad habits. landings are very easy. plenty of power, it will cruise very comfortably at half throttle.

mods, move this thread to conversions?

papasmurf
Oct 27, 2005, 12:21 AM
If you have any more photos please post them.

kevin
Oct 27, 2005, 09:49 AM
i will post more pics tonight.

guapoman2000
Oct 27, 2005, 12:31 PM
(apogee-not happy with them currently-thats a different story)

Kevin,

Super nice "Scale" model.

Many here in Orlando, Floirda has realized the same situation with the APOGEE 2480's.....they don't hold up to anywhere near what the advertisement says about continuous AMPs! :mad:

I fly a Combat Wing powered by a Mega 16/15/4-turn swinging an APC "E" 6 X 4 Propeller and it draws 21 Amps @ Wide Open and producing 17,300 RPMs at the propeller.

The APOGEE 2480's reach Low Voltage Cut-Off much sooner than the 2nd generation Thunder Power 2100mAH, 3S1P, Li-POLYs! :o If you are gentle with the throttle then, you can out-fly the Thunder Power 2100's but, a Combat Wing putt putting around....naw!! :D

I would not buy anymore APOGEE's for this reason.....having a Combat Wing with the high demand, high AMP draw really tests any battery pack! :)

I should be receiving the Thunder Power 2100mAH, PRO LITEs (15C), 3S1P, Li-POLYs sometime today and can't wait to try them out in my Combat Wing! :D

kevin
Oct 27, 2005, 08:02 PM
more pics. i removed some of the fuse formers. they are just not needed, as you can see, there is plenty of room for batteries...

you can also see my custom series parallel harness. 4 - 2s1p apogee 2480 packs = 4s2p

guapoman2000
Oct 27, 2005, 08:21 PM
Kevin,

Very nice work on the series / parallel harness via Deans! :)

By the way, I have the same exact motor and will install in my Lanier 21st Century Citabria (64 inch wing span) and was wondering if you have measured the AMP draw using 4S2P? :confused:

termite
Oct 27, 2005, 08:39 PM
Very nice Kevin,
I've got the same kit in Red and White but will not be getting to untill the snow flys.

Randy

kevin
Oct 27, 2005, 08:55 PM
i havnt measured the amp draw yet, hopefully this sunday at the field.

this plane cruises very nicely at half throttle (scale like). even though i like to go fast, i find that i rarely use full throttle on this plane (i used mostly about 65% last flight)..its just not needed (but it is nice to have). the motor is just barely warm after a 10 minute flight.

i think someone who ran this combo full throttle an entire flight might damage the motor or cells. full throttle is pretty impressive for a motor of this size, or lack thereof.

btw... this is the recommended setup for the hobby lobby citabria. oops-decathlon. although it doesnt look like they are pushing the motor hard in the video. The cessna is much faster than that at full throttle.
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/decathlon.htm

papasmurf
Oct 27, 2005, 09:03 PM
I have a hacker A30-10XL I have been looking for a home for. Stevens aero has it listed as being comparable to the 2826 and it has a 900 kv so I am hoping it might work on 3s as all my 2s packs are small. I am going to look through ebay and see if I can come across one cheap.

kevin
Oct 27, 2005, 09:09 PM
there are a bunch of these on ebay, but i dont see any that are blue :)

papasmurf
Oct 27, 2005, 09:16 PM
I kind of prefer the red anyways....I am not sure why they did the wingtips that way it just looks mismatched but I guess is not really noticeable.

kevin
Oct 27, 2005, 09:22 PM
i didnt like the wingtips at first either because it looks like the paint was an afterthought..it grows on you.

one other thing about the wingtips..they are fiberglass and are just glued on the end of the wings. easy way to get the shape i guess.

kevin
Oct 29, 2005, 06:48 PM
got another flight in today.

power reading..... 560 watts - 45 amps. plenty o' power.

glennarandy
Nov 03, 2005, 08:42 PM
i just received one i brought off e_bay paied 89.00/// very nice plane , i'm very happy to see a elec conversion done, i really did'nt want to put a gas power system in it...

B717 Furloughee
Nov 03, 2005, 09:00 PM
$89 for a model this size. It is ARF, correct?

What is the "normal" price?

papasmurf
Nov 03, 2005, 09:10 PM
Be careful though....they work you over on shipping with alot of those deals on ebay. Normal price is about $119 from ak-models I believe.

drksyd
Nov 03, 2005, 10:52 PM
I got two of these from eBay, won the auctions around $75 and $30 for shipping is not unreasonable to HI. Just finishing up mine tonight, glued in ply for the battery pack and will glue in the windows and ready to fly.

I don't care what the picture is on eBay, you'll most likely get a blue one. The first one I got was blue, the second one had a red pic but I got blue again.

Randy
Put some ski's on it and it'll fly. I saw a video with one on ski's and it really moved on the snow.

B717 Furloughee
Nov 03, 2005, 11:07 PM
drksyd,

Why two of them? What motor/battery did you use?

termite
Nov 03, 2005, 11:14 PM
Skis would be COOL on this kit!!!!

Should make a nice winter flyer.

I'll do it.

Randy

drksyd
Nov 04, 2005, 12:00 AM
Cheap!! After I saw the first one it was good enough to get a second.
I'll be using a 4120/14 on 5S2P and APC 12x8E. Maiden will be this weekend.

Randy
Might have to make sure you have a long stretch in case it doesn't slow down after landing. There's a vid but I can't find it, will post if I do.

kevin
Nov 04, 2005, 08:58 AM
pay close attention to the cg. even a little tail heavy makes it jumpy. with the cg right on it is very smooth... as with most electric conversions.. keep it as light as possible.. i took out most of the wood formers ..

glennarandy
Nov 04, 2005, 01:29 PM
with shipping i think it came out to 105.00, still good price for what you get, by the way mine is red.. thinks for the tips on electric power systems..

glennarandy
Nov 04, 2005, 01:36 PM
just back to e-bay checking my record i paied 60.00 + 35.00 shipping for it...got in in 4 days...the current bit for another one right now is 35.00... going to get another one..

B717 Furloughee
Nov 04, 2005, 05:14 PM
So is the Axi 2826 or 4120 better for this Cessna?

kevin
Nov 06, 2005, 04:04 PM
i like my setup, plenty of power... i am sure the 4120 will fly it as well but i dont think that much power/weight really is necessary.

drksyd
Nov 06, 2005, 10:46 PM
The 2826 should be enough but I had a 4120 laying around so I put it in there.

CG on glow planes is as far back as possible before being tail heavy because it needs to balance in case all the fuel is used up. When fueled up, the cg moves far up. I always make my conversions nose heavy from the suggested cg, if it's too far I can move it back but I'd surely hate to wrestle with a tailheavy plane on maiden.

Vantasstic
Nov 11, 2005, 10:44 PM
Wow, I'm glad I found this thread. I just ordered on of the Cessna's on Ebay and can't wait to get it in. I'm not sure which powere system to use yet (gas/glow).

I am currently flying a Sig Rascal 40 converted to electric with an AXI 2826-10, CC45, and 3S3P 6000 mah battery. It weights ~5.25 lbs and flies great at 2/3 power. I get a good two flights per battery charge and have three batteries for it.

I also had (crashed) and am replacing a C-160 twin. I lost the first due to setting the ESCs wrong and had one shut down before the other. Got the second from Ebay and it is in the mail now (at a $80 savings over the first). BTW, my Cessna with shipping was just over $100. GSP shows it for $139 (I think) and you'd have to add shipping on top of that.

papasmurf
Nov 11, 2005, 10:50 PM
How many amps are you pulling with the 2826-10? Do you know the KV by chance?

sgil2001
Nov 23, 2005, 08:35 PM
Anyone consider one of the large Hyperion motors for this bird? They look like a good value. I'm just a little confused what size would be best.

34Ford
Dec 14, 2005, 10:45 PM
This is probably the video your speaking of. He posted it today when I asked about a Cessna 182.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=452618

34Ford
Jan 05, 2006, 11:46 AM
[QUOTE=kevin]Just thought i would share my latest project. This is a china model products 182 arf available from giantscaleplanes or ak-models. it has a 63 inch wingspan. glass fuse built up wood wing. I converted it with an axi 2826/10 4s2p apogee 2480's (apogee-not happy with them currently-thats a different story) 11x8.5 prop. jeti 77opto controller. sbec.
QUOTE]

Kevin,

So hows she flying? I just received mine yesterday from AK. $118 shipped.
Im impressed with the quality of this chinese model. :) Im going to use the AXI 2826/10 with the radial mount.

Dennis

kevin
Jan 05, 2006, 01:56 PM
she is flying very well. very smooth in the air and lands easily. i only have seven flights right now. i like it more and more after each flight.

34Ford
Jan 05, 2006, 03:09 PM
Good to hear. I will probably be asking you more about it. Did you use the AXI radial mount?

And if so, what is the prop shaft dia. on them? Im thinking of a aluminum spinner. :)

kevin
Jan 05, 2006, 04:29 PM
i did use the axi mount but not sure of the shaft diameter. it might be on the hobby lobby website. if not there let me know i can take a look at it later.

34Ford
Jan 05, 2006, 09:15 PM
Not only is the shaft size not on Hobby Lobbys site its not even on Model Motors site. :(

34Ford
Jan 05, 2006, 09:26 PM
Well I finally found some differences in two different chinese Cessnas. I caught it on AK Models site and the ones on Ebay.

Here is the 2 different ones on AK Models.

1. http://ak-models.com/cmp_cessna182_40.htm

2. http://ak-models.com/cessna182.htm

Notice the 1st one actually says CMP. The 2nd one dont say what it is.
There are a few sutble changes most notable is the wingtips and stickers.
I have the 1st one so I cant say how good the 2nd one is but I really like the quality of mine. The ones on Ebay are also like the 2nd one. Im comparing the ones on Ebay from this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6026615276
Notice again, different wingtips.

Holy smoke, 740 people have looked at that plane! :eek:
Well you would think there would be some reviews about them. :)

sgil2001
Jan 05, 2006, 10:05 PM
I'm still working on mine, but it's coming along nicely. All I have to do is finish the radio installation. If all goes as planned it should be done in a few days. Then I just need some decent weather so I can put it through the shakedown flight.

sgil2001
Jan 05, 2006, 10:18 PM
In case you're interested, here's a pic of my mounted motor. I used a pvc adaptor and some long bolts. Worked great. Nice solid mount.

hermperez
Jan 05, 2006, 10:25 PM
the 2826-10 motor uses a 5mm motor shaft..

Herm

34Ford
Jan 06, 2006, 07:17 AM
the 2826-10 motor uses a 5mm motor shaft..

Herm

So how does one go about putting a aluminum spinner on the end of this shaft?

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/images/pm2212-22002.jpg

I had Great Planes spinner in mind but I from what I see I dont think they make a 5mm adapter. Or can you buy one from another manufacture and use it?

Back years ago I used the cheap plastic ones that just snapped on, but these with the screw down the middle requires a little different approach.

drksyd
Jan 06, 2006, 11:46 AM
If you know what the thread is and can find a matching unit, they sell shaft extensions for ic motors. If you turn the motor around and use the 5mm shaft, Tru Turn now has long collet adapters for electric motors in this case.

taekwondo
Jan 06, 2006, 03:45 PM
I want one. Did you get it from yuejin on ebay?

34Ford
Jan 06, 2006, 04:23 PM
I want one. Did you get it from yuejin on ebay?

I got mine from AKmodels just before he ran out. I got if for the $118 free shipping deal. After of course I had to show him how to remove the shipping from his site. Another story. :rolleyes:

the 2826-10 motor uses a 5mm motor shaft..

Herm

Well I just got the skinny on the shaft dia. from Max at Hobby Lobby.
Its 8mm. :D

Vantasstic
Jan 06, 2006, 11:36 PM
There are two different shaft adapters available from Hobby Lobby (both Graupners I believe). I have purchased both types for the 5mm spindle on the AXI. One prop adapter is 6mm and the other is 8mm. The first one I purchased was the 8mm and it's not as easy to find spinners that big. I later purchased some 6mm ones that fit most spinners much easier. Oops, I don't think they're Graupners, but I found them in my Hobby Lobby catalog. These are the collet (clam shell) type adapters, not set screw, both for the 5mm motor shaft:
MJ4704 as a 6mm prop shaft and MJ4705 has an 8mm prop shaft. I'd recommend go with the 6mm as it's easier to fit both props and spinners to.

34Ford
Jan 12, 2006, 07:42 PM
Well the guy from Hobby Lobby was wrong after all. It is indeed a 6mm shaft, not a 8.
Who do they hire anyway. :(

Well since Im waiting on my UBEC and looking to buy a Jeti 40 Opti esc I will post this pic anyway.

I wonder if I took two TP 2100 mah 3S lipos and wired them parallel if that would be enough?

http://webpages.charter.net/fordcoupe/cessna/Cessna182.JPG

dannydaville
Jan 13, 2006, 12:24 AM
OK Guys, Here's the one I bought on E-bay ($86.00 + $30 shipping). Everything in the above photo looks the same. The wing is 3 piece and there are no plastic wing tips. The covering appears to be Monokote, but who knows. The covering was excellent and there is no need to re-heat it. Really nice job. The fuse, wheel pants, and cowl are fiberglass. The paint job is okay. I like this model and should convert to electric easily.

drksyd
Jan 13, 2006, 12:46 AM
I wonder if I took two TP 2100 mah 3S lipos and wired them parallel if that would be enough?

The 3S2P will be fine. If you have the Gen2 packs you'll have 50amps capability or 63 if you have the new Pro Lites with the ballance tap.

34Ford
Jan 13, 2006, 08:15 AM
OK Guys, Here's the one I bought on E-bay ($86.00 + $30 shipping). Everything in the above photo looks the same. The wing is 3 piece and there are no plastic wing tips. The covering appears to be Monokote, but who knows. The covering was excellent and there is no need to re-heat it. Really nice job. The fuse, wheel pants, and cowl are fiberglass. The paint job is okay. I like this model and should convert to electric easily.

Yep, I knew there were subtle differences. Wingtips, mine has the turndown on the ends and I had to glue them on. I see you have a blue stripe vs my black and your slots are cut for your rudder etc. and mine is not. Something else I just noticed is yours is white on the inside. Is is not fiberglass?




The 3S2P will be fine. If you have the Gen2 packs you'll have 50amps capability or 63 if you have the new Pro Lites with the ballance tap.

Yep, mine are the new Pro Lites ones with balance tap. :) Looks like Im going to have to buy a esc outright, Dont see many used Jeti's for sale.

Dennis

dannydaville
Jan 13, 2006, 09:13 AM
Yep, I knew there were subtle differences. Wingtips, mine has the turndown on the ends and I had to glue them on. I see you have a blue stripe vs my black and your slots are cut for your rudder etc. and mine is not. Something else I just noticed is yours is white on the inside. Is is not fiberglass? Dennis


Hi Dennis,

The fuse is all fiberglass. The "white" that you see on the inside of the fuse is the unpainted part of the glass. The camera with its flash makes the inside look as white as the paint job on the outside. To the naked eye its more like "off white".

This plane will be powered by a Hyperion Z4025-12 outrunner (Kv 470) and probably an APC 13X8E prop. The ESC is an Hyperion 80A opto which can handle 2-5 lipos or 5-16 nicads. I'll be using a 4000 mah 5s2p Balance Pro lipo pack from FMA Direct.

Dan

34Ford
Jan 13, 2006, 11:41 AM
The 3S2P will be fine. If you have the Gen2 packs you'll have 50amps capability or 63 if you have the new Pro Lites with the ballance tap.


Uh, does this mean a Jeti Advance 40 Opti esc isnt big enough?

drksyd
Jan 13, 2006, 11:45 AM
Depends on which motor you run and how you prop it. The 40 will be close to the max rating for most motors in the range to fly this size plane. I would suggest at least a 45, more comfortably a 60. For the 2826/10, I would highly suggest a 60 amp esc.

34Ford
Jan 13, 2006, 12:42 PM
Ah man! Now were talking about 30 more bucks. Cant find a 60, how about a 70? :)
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/images/jesap70p.jpg

sarge
Jan 13, 2006, 02:35 PM
How about a CC 60 HV and either a UBEC or a flight battery. Flight batteries are only 6-7 dollars. I use one attached to the front side of the firewall to help with balance.

34Ford
Jan 13, 2006, 03:18 PM
How about a CC 60 HV and either a UBEC or a flight battery. Flight batteries are only 6-7 dollars. I use one attached to the front side of the firewall to help with balance.

That would work as I have a UBEC on its way. But they dont make a 60 HV, do they?

They show a 45 HV and a 85 HV on Castles site. Course I could cut the bec on their 60.

dannydaville
Jan 13, 2006, 03:37 PM
That would work as I have a UBEC on its way. But they dont make a 60 HV, do they?

They show a 45 HV and a 85 HV on Castles site. Course I could cut the bec on their 60.


Dennis,

Castle Creations makes a Phoenix-60 which is what you want. Its for brushless motors at 60 amp continuous. Its fully programable.

Dan

34Ford
Jan 13, 2006, 05:44 PM
Dennis,

Castle Creations makes a Phoenix-60 which is what you want. Its for brushless motors at 60 amp continuous. Its fully programable.

Dan
Yep, just not a HV60 :)

Im working on a deal for a Jeti 70 Opti now. So maybe my hunting is about over.

So Danny, you had a chance to do any gluing? I remember you said the covering was tight, well mine is pretty good. But there has been a few places that have loosened up. I think its the dry air in here maybe. I have a heat gun and iron that will take care of it.

Im curious to try my little CVS camcorder in this plane somehow. Gonna see if I can fabricate some kinda windshield for it to look thru.

dannydaville
Jan 13, 2006, 07:10 PM
So Danny, you had a chance to do any gluing? I remember you said the covering was tight, well mine is pretty good. But there has been a few places that have loosened up. I think its the dry air in here maybe. I have a heat gun and iron that will take care of it.

Dennis,

As a matter of fact I started on it this afternoon installing the aileron servos. The assembly of the wing is just a tad different then perhaps what you have. The wing extensions (which contain the ailerons & servos) are glued to the main center section of the wing using a 1/4" aircraft ply dihedral brace. The instructions that came with the kit are Xerox copies of an earlier version. This is as far as I have gotten as other "honey dos" took over.

Dan

dannydaville
Jan 13, 2006, 07:38 PM
This photo goes with the last post (#62)

34Ford
Jan 13, 2006, 07:51 PM
Dennis,

As a matter of fact I started on it this afternoon installing the aileron servos. The assembly of the wing is just a tad different then perhaps what you have. The wing extensions (which contain the ailerons & servos) are glued to the main center section of the wing using a 1/4" aircraft ply dihedral brace. The instructions that came with the kit are Xerox copies of an earlier version. This is as far as I have gotten as other "honey dos" took over.

Dan

Your right. Mine used about a 1/2" aluminum tube and about a 1/4" aluminum dowel to line up the wings where they joined. Nice pics Dan.

Well I bought a Jeti 70 Opti plus from a member just a little bit ago. So Im slowly getting all the electrics togeather. :)
I may make my extended firewall out of aluminum. Maybe I can make it so the lipos can go up front, if I need the weight up that far.

drksyd
Jan 13, 2006, 11:26 PM
Don't need an HV esc, the Phoenix 60 is more than enough.

dannydaville
Jan 19, 2006, 02:10 PM
you can also see my custom series parallel harness. 4 - 2s1p apogee 2480 packs = 4s2p

Kevin - Can you tell me what you have to do to make a custom series parallel harness using the Deans Ultra connectors. I'd appreciate it very much.

Dan

kevin
Jan 19, 2006, 04:03 PM
dan

i will post pics and a little tutorial in the next couple days.

thanks

guapoman2000
Jan 19, 2006, 08:05 PM
Kevin - Can you tell me what you have to do to make a custom series parallel harness using the Deans Ultra connectors. I'd appreciate it very much.

Dan

Dan,

I made my own but, opted to buy from Battereis America one harness that allows me to connect two battery packs in parallel.

http://www.batteriesamerica.com/newpage8.htm#Additional%20Connectors,


I am sure other Web Sites, vendors might have the same product....check around.

Carlos :cool:

guapoman2000
Jan 19, 2006, 08:11 PM
Dan,

For a neat video on how to solder Ultra Deans:

http://www.ezonemag.com/~awilletts/deansultra.mpg

papasmurf
Jan 19, 2006, 08:14 PM
tanic sells them. They are about $10 I think and they do a much better job than I could ever do.

guapoman2000
Jan 19, 2006, 08:18 PM
tanic sells them. They are about $10 I think and they do a much better job than I could ever do.

Exactly, for the price and piece of mind (no cold solder joints!) one can not beat these...

http://www.tanicpacks.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=b00e80e76b82024ce214337b8d4fdeec

kevin
Jan 22, 2006, 07:08 PM
The reasons I don’t use the preassembled parallel connectors…. they have wire soldered to the connector then they make the split off of the wire (usually). I make mine parallel right off of the connector… much neater.

The reason I don’t like the preassembled series connectors (as shown in the above links): way too much wire used to make the connections and it doesn’t look neat.. and too much wire leading from the battery to controller can cause a lot of problems.

the trick to keeping all of the wire on the connector while soldering the parallel harness....nichrome wire. it is removed after the solder joint is made.

hope this helps a bit.. any questions feel free to ask.

guapoman2000
Jan 22, 2006, 08:05 PM
I have only parallel connectors and have both the home made and Ready made. I have tried both and my creation does work but, the Ready made came with less wire length and very neat finish.

I have had ZERO problems with the ready made and I had a cold solder joint in my home made, luckly I caught it in time!

Carlos :)

34Ford
Jan 24, 2006, 09:13 AM
Well I just about have all the electronics except waiting on the programmer for the Jeti.

Did most of you determine that the landing gear that comes with these CMP's is junk?

Should I look for some Dubro gear?

kevin
Jan 24, 2006, 11:35 AM
i used the stock gear...no problems yet.

dannydaville
Jan 24, 2006, 11:56 AM
Well I just about have all the electronics except waiting on the programmer for the Jeti.

Did most of you determine that the landing gear that comes with these CMP's is junk?

Should I look for some Dubro gear?

The stock wire in my kit does seem kind of flimsy but I'll go with it for now. One of the wire had to be rebent. FWIW I added hardwood torque blocks to the landing gear plate so the gear wouldn't fold on the first landing. See photo.

34Ford
Jan 24, 2006, 06:07 PM
Hum, I see another difference. Mine had the blocks in it and I still say yours is white compared to mine. :D

kevin
Jan 24, 2006, 10:15 PM
my version also had the blocks already installed.

dhsmith1
Jan 25, 2006, 09:28 PM
Hi Kevin; Here's some low-res shots of my 182 conversion.
Notice the split hinged cowl, also the battery carrier under the
motor.

papasmurf
Jan 25, 2006, 10:16 PM
I like your cowling setup. More info on how you did that would be appreciated.

dhsmith1
Jan 25, 2006, 11:14 PM
Hi papasmurf; I split the cowl with a razor saw(cut a 1/16 slice off one side so the
hinges wouldn't jam). I used du-bro nylon hinges and epoxy. I made stiffners along the
lower cuts, and added a hinge at the lower rear. I removed the pin from the lower
hinge and made a new pin with a loop at the forward end of the hinge to pull the pin.
the cowl is held in place with the original screws. I can remove the screws from either
side to access the motor or batteries. Smitty dhsmith1

Alexandr German
Jan 26, 2006, 03:48 AM
Would you like to get your own CESSNA?
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416281

kevin
Jan 26, 2006, 11:14 AM
i like the cowl...

do your batteries need to be that far forward, or is that an opening to slide batteries down into the fuse.

dhsmith1
Jan 26, 2006, 12:43 PM
Hi again Kevin; The reason for the batteries to be that far forward is that
engine this plane was designed for weighed 16+ oz., the AXI motor weighs
4+ oz., the battery pack weighs 10+ oz. I guess it would have been simpler
to say I did it for balance. I am impressed by the way you lightened your
182. Smitty dhsmith1

kevin
Jan 26, 2006, 05:31 PM
just asking because my batteries didnt need to be that far forward as you can see from my first pics...

congrats on getting it together, you will love the way it flies.

34Ford
Jan 26, 2006, 10:45 PM
Well here is my homemade motor mount. :p

hermperez
Jan 26, 2006, 11:40 PM
Very nice!.. I see you have a brake to bend sheet metal..I would have made that mount longer and mounted the motor backwards inside of it.. I think outrunners are better balanced that way, plus the mount helps cool off the windings. Plus you dont have to buy the mounting kit :)

Herm

Well here is my homemade motor mount. :p

kevin
Jan 27, 2006, 10:09 AM
i like outrunners mounted the way he did it, much better airflow into and around the motor....just personal preference.

hermperez
Jan 27, 2006, 11:06 AM
I worry about it from a mechanical perspective, its better balanced mounted backwards and air can be deflected into the motor.. cheaper too :)

these are high rpm small motors, the bearings are delicate.. and the props are large. I like the way they streched the hyperion motors, provides more leverage in between the bearings, more support.

Thats a very nice motor mount..

Herm

kevin
Jan 27, 2006, 05:17 PM
you are right.. the force on the bearing is greater when mounted this way.

34Ford
Jan 28, 2006, 09:44 AM
Very nice!.. I see you have a brake to bend sheet metal..I would have made that mount longer and mounted the motor backwards inside of it.. I think outrunners are better balanced that way, plus the mount helps cool off the windings. Plus you dont have to buy the mounting kit :)

Herm

Well I have access to breaks but I really did it the hard way and used a 6" vise. ;)

You have a good point about a longer mount and putting the motor inside.
Then I would need a collet but at least I could have used an aluminim spinner like I wanted.
Humm, do I make another?

Oh BTW, which way are you guys controlling your elevators? Are you using the dowel with the two rods at the back?
I have a goldenrod for my rudder. But dont see a way to use one for the elev.

dhsmith1
Jan 28, 2006, 11:53 AM
Hi;for my rudder and elevators I am using 1/4 in. thin wall aluminum tubing with
the steel rod ends crimped into the tubes,then epoxied in place.
I also connected the elevators together and used one pushrod.
BTW I was born in '34,my father had a '34 ford coupe at the time. Smitty

johnmathewson
Jan 29, 2006, 08:01 PM
Cheap!! After I saw the first one it was good enough to get a second.
I'll be using a 4120/14 on 5S2P and APC 12x8E. Maiden will be this weekend.

Randy
Might have to make sure you have a long stretch in case it doesn't slow down after landing. There's a vid but I can't find it, will post if I do.

Did you fly your 182 with the AXI 4120/14 combination yet?

34Ford
Jan 30, 2006, 10:08 AM
Anyone know Anon? Saw these pics of Cessna's.

The Joe Knoll show is not far from me. :)

http://www.rchangout.com/gallery/displayimage.php?&pos=-217

drksyd
Jan 31, 2006, 04:45 AM
Had it at the field and during pre-flight I found that the horn for the steerable nose gear had broke and never got around to fixing it.
I did have the 4120 in a H9 Corsair and it flew but not with much gusto.

34Ford
Feb 09, 2006, 11:29 AM
What servos did you guys use in your wings? Due to limited space Im going to use two Hitec HS-81's

Hope thats ok. :cool:

drksyd
Feb 09, 2006, 11:50 AM
I have the full size ones in there. I would get the 85's over the 81's, you could even get 225's.

dannydaville
Feb 09, 2006, 12:51 PM
What servos did you guys use in your wings? Due to limited space Im going to use two Hitec HS-81's

Hope thats ok. :cool:

HS-81s are ok if they're metal gear (you might lose a tooth on the nylon spline of the regular HS-81). I am using HS-225 (mini servo). They're smaller than the standard servo but very powerful.

Alexander Cui
Feb 10, 2006, 04:05 AM
$89 for a model this size. It is ARF, correct?

What is the "normal" price?
Hi,I'm an pilot living in China.I'm glad of founding this thread. that cessna 182 is manufactured in Guangdong,China.It's of good quality,but difficult to repair due to the fibeglass fuselage in case of crush,I thing so...price here about $80.(http://www.xflmodel.com/cn/classlist.asp?class_1_name=固定翼&page=1)