1:8 scale electric bikes

[Kev71H]

If anyone wants to talk specifically about the 1:8 scale Kyosho HOR or static Rider. This forum can be a little bit more specific about them

Posting pics...etc

[Kev71H]

1:8 scale....line up!

[grymg]

This coming from a proud TT AND Kyosho owner. . .

Even with all the craze of 1/5 TT's and NF's I still think 1/8 Kyoshos are the way to go in terms of racing. They're cheaper first of all. Also, with 1/5 it takes a while to organize a big space and put up a decent track. Big spaces mean limited visibility and the farther away you get, the more you can't guage depth and also you don't know if you're leaning too much in the curves.

But 1/8's can run circles around everybody.

Heck, just yesterday I was driving the little man through a car track with not that much difficulty (Make sure you plan ahead on your turns).

Essentials for racing:
Need a qualifier to determine starting positions in Mains. Track lap times w/ transponders. But how do you fit a transponder into a little 1/8?
Need track marshalls. Many.
Need a way to start off the bikes fairly. No problem!! The kit stand can do it!

Just a thought. . .

[Kev71H]

I agree with you whole heartedly about the 1:8 bikes needing less room!!!

I love mine and racing is great!!!!!!!

The 1:5 bikes do take more room....but the action is "different" Not better nor worse but just different!!!

Its exciting in a "big" style way compared to the kyoshos

I love them both!

I can't wait until RCMA has a race again with our 1:8 bikes and the 1:5 sized bikes!!! San Jose Next getting together is a week from tomorrow!!! SUNDAY

kev71H@aol.com for more information

[chuckstunter]

Hello everybody,
Heres a pic of my Doohan HOR next to my emaxx. I just got it in june and it is my first RC bike. I drove it stock for most of the summer and am now in the process of testing upgrades. Ive surfed the yahoo forum, and have gotten alot of helpful info, as well as enjoyed the pics and vids. I cant wait to get my bike fixed up and hope to be able to get some more info here.


For anyone interested in the performance of a stock HOR here is a short video clip.

Click here for Stock HOR VID... for best results right-click and save as (http://www.rcpics.net/media/bowdy_bike_run.mpg)

Enjoy:cool:[IMG]

[chuckstunter]

Top view next to Emaxx

[Kev71H]

Pretty darn cool video! I have saw that same video somewhere..but I forgot where...it gives a good Idea how the stock one runs...

The video was a little "jumpy" but I may be my computer.


Great job!

[grymg]

Looks like you have a very solid bike there!!! Your driving skills are way better than mine during my first YEAR with my Kyosho. But what was hindering me were the little things with my bike that didn't let me drive it like it was supposed to.

Which leads me to my next point. To get good handling with the bikes, I suggest you get the steering shock to eliminate head shake, bearing steering block for super smooth rotation, shims all around, and front oil forks and a rear oil shock for a smoother more resistant suspension. Also, just like R/C cars tires can make a huge difference. I run high grip rear w/foam insert and stock front w/light flywheel and molded silicone insert. With that silicone front insert you might not need the steering shock.

For high speed running w/better motors, get ball bearings, alum. gearbox w/oval washers & metal gears & pinions, and a higher capacity 7.2V battery pack.

-Ian

[Kev71H]

I second that Ian!

Ian, you coming this sunday? San Jose?

[Kev71H]

PM me with your phone # so I can let you know where we are meeting....our location on meeting "place" is to be announced. thanks!:D

[grymg]

Kev, will be there with the RCMA on Sunday.

Just talked to Ray "Turbo" and he said we're going to meet at Dave's house in Foster City (right across the San Mateo Bridge) to watch F-1 racing Indianapolis 500 on TV while we work our bikes, then migrate over to the racing "hotspot" 2 blocks away from his house. It's kind of secluded, so we won't run into stray cars or gopeds!

-Ian

[grymg]

Don't know if any of you are interested, but Tamiya will soon release a prepainted predetailed version of their Repsol Honda 1/12 scale bike. It comes with a metal plated swingarm and frame!!

I see another R/C project coming up!!

(Yes, ANOTHER 1/12 one. This time we'll get 1st place at Tamiyacon!)

[Kev71H]

Ian,,

RCMA (maybe soon to be RCMCC) will not meet at Dave's house....his wife had a very unfortunate death of a close friend...so it may be a little much having a number of people over "his" house.....but we probably will meet across from GREAT AMERICA

Similar where they race the 1/5 scale cars "on sat".....
We probably will meet there this sunday...call me or I will email you or post for sure....

we are 90% sure we will meet there sunday thanks!!

Kevin
San Jose

[grymg]

A pic of some of our bikes on the workstation. . .

[Kev71H]

Nice pic............where is mine??? ha ha ha

coooool

[grymg]

Kev you got there a little "late". . . .

Anyways, when I gave Dave the camera at the track he only took short videos. So I don't have anymore pictures.

-Ian

[grymg]

Hey, Ireland has an R/C motorcycle association!!! Check it out:


(Watch out for many popups)


http://www.nircmba.esmartweb.com/eightthscalesolobikes.html

[grymg]

Kevin, are we meeting this weekend? We can try running the bikes in Union City, where I live. I run them on the cement in a brand new elementary school. The space is huge and the cement is super flat.

If we do meet anyway, I suggest we have a HOR spec class with the kit motors. I have an extra one in case somebody is missing one. This way we can get good racing shots.

I also finished rebuilding my TT. Only running a stock motor though. Brushless is just too out of control for my taste.

-Ian

[rodneyonline]

Ian,

Wanting to run this weekend.

call me.....we have an invitation.

Kev71H@aol.com

Or email me your phone#
Kevin

[grymg]

Micro Hanging on Rider. . . What scale is this?

http://www.otherlandtoys.co.uk/product695/product_info.html

[grymg]

Nevermind, I have an idea what the scale of it is from the following picture. The Ferrari on the right is a Mini-Z.

[Kev71H]

oh my gosh...I want one!!!! how much is that in DOLLARS????
Kevin

[grymg]

1:26 Scale Hanging on Rider. Has a little NiMH battery in it that lasts about 7-10 minutes on a 2 min. charge (built into transmitter). Too bad there's only 2 channels for it.

Has detachable crashbars/training wheels. From the reviews, it's not as fast as a Mini-Z, but fairly fast for its scale.

They make a Honda Repsol version of this bike. . . That will be mine!! However, they're $50 out of the country. I emailed Nikko to ask who their American distributor will be.

Again, this is a HOR!

[oinkie]

1:26 Scale Hanging on Rider. Has a little NiMH battery in it that lasts about 7-10 minutes on a 2 min. charge (built into transmitter). Too bad there's only 2 channels for it.

Has detachable crashbars/training wheels. From the reviews, it's not as fast as a Mini-Z, but fairly fast for its scale.

They make a Honda Repsol version of this bike. . . That will be mine!! However, they're $50 out of the country. I emailed Nikko to ask who their American distributor will be.

Again, this is a HOR!

echt fat man wow

[Honolulu]

I had posted a thread on my irider

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245640&highlight=ducati

[chainlube]

Hi 1/8 scale owners. I am trying to find a few performance parts for a Kyosho HOR... GPW3 metal pinion gears; GPW12 special steering parts; 70301 Grand Prix 28bb motor (or better); and aluminum gearbox w/oval washers. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

I think I have all the other recommended parts on oreder including: 1100 mah battery; gpw15 heat sink; gpw7 light flywheel; gpw11 special gear+sprocket set; gpw2 rear oil shock; high grip tires; ball bearing set; and gpw10 front oil forks. Did I miss anything?

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[grymg]

Hi 1/8 scale owners. I am trying to find a few performance parts for a Kyosho HOR... GPW3 metal pinion gears; GPW12 special steering parts; 70301 Grand Prix 28bb motor (or better); and aluminum gearbox w/oval washers. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

I think I have all the other recommended parts on oreder including: 1100 mah battery; gpw15 heat sink; gpw7 light flywheel; gpw11 special gear+sprocket set; gpw2 rear oil shock; high grip tires; ball bearing set; and gpw10 front oil forks. Did I miss anything?

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

Metal Pinion Gears
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBGE9&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBPB6&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGWA8&P=7

Special Steering Parts
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXV227&P=7

280 motor
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGTE2&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFWS4&P=7

Aluminum gearbox
http://shop.one18th.com/product_info.php?cPath=58_63&products_id=315

Oval washers
http://shop.one18th.com/product_info.php?cPath=58_63&products_id=337

Hope this helps,
Ian

[chainlube]

Ian...Dude, thanks! I'm going shopping.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[bikenut]

anywhere in the uk I can get the aluminium gearbox and oval washers ......they are top trumps on my list now.
Cheers.
Chris

[chainlube]

Ian, thanks again. Everything has been ordered.

I think I'll be set now, as far as upgrades go at least. Any hints on set-up or driving? I ordered the Suzuki HOR (and all the parts), but haven't received anything yet. I think I'll still need a transmitter though. I ordered a futaba radio set (#mcr-2m)for the hor (rec, esc and servo). Do you have a suggestion for a transmitter?

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[Kev71H]

I have a suggestion on Transmitters

NUMBER ONE> NO AM radio (FM ONLY) FM has better transmission

Get a radio that has all the adjustments:
This means Endp Point adjustments on both throddle and steering.

Unlike RC Cars these bikes will need the steering toned down (more and likely) so its much more responsive to your "driving style". To put a bike together and using a el-cheapo AM transmitter that has no adjustments means your stuck with what the factory has as "general" settings. Not good.

so..
FM
And able to adjust both channels.

This WILL help (only if your considering a bottom of the line transmitter)
Most transmitters have these adjustments but some cheapo "factory" transmitter don't have "both" adjustments.

Kevin
RCMCC

[grymg]

Dave,

With the speedo sorry I can't help you because I'm not familiar with all of the compatible transmitters. The guys in our club use the AM Futaba magnum though with that speedo.

Some hints and tips:
- Good thing is that the steering setup is pretty much done once you finish building the kit (i.e. no steering springs or silicone tubing to tune), but after first drive you’ll notice the response is slow. In order to lean it you’ll need to let go of the throttle or brake and hold the wheel in that direction throughout the whole turn.
- To get out of the lean, slowly return the wheel to neutral and give it more gas. This should straighten it out.
- If you try to get out of the lean by simply turning the wheel full lock to the opposite side chances are it will not work. This is because the lower fairing scrapes on the sides, holding it back. Run with the lower fairing off for a while to practice. The problem still remains (now the battery edges will scrape), but it is better. The only true way to fix this problem is to lengthen the crash bars so that none of the body is scraping. For example see Dave's pic http://dave.rcpics.net/deltarc7-11-04bikes/hor8.jpg

Also try to get a ground eyes view of the bike while driving it. The rider is alive!!

Ian

[KSUJedi]

Anyone got any good tips on brands of paint that work well on the plastic body and rider of the HOR? Anyone ever try that Krylon Fusion stuff? Not really made for hobby models, but it's not supposed to chip and stuff I guess because it gets down into the plastic or something? Thanks.

[mollycbr123]

Dave,

. For example see Dave's pic http://dave.rcpics.net/deltarc7-11-04bikes/hor8.jpg

Also try to get a ground eyes view of the bike while driving it. The rider is alive!!

Ian

I'd swear that pic was of a full scale bike and rider when it started downloading. Except for the fuzzy helmet, that is. :p

STeve B in NC

[grymg]

Anyone got any good tips on brands of paint that work well on the plastic body and rider of the HOR? Anyone ever try that Krylon Fusion stuff? Not really made for hobby models, but it's not supposed to chip and stuff I guess because it gets down into the plastic or something? Thanks.

I've used testors and Tamiya paint and like Tamiya the best out of the two. With the same amount of coats (3) the Tamiya paint is much thicker and smoother. Also the built-in gloss is quite nice =)

Ian

[grymg]

I'd swear that pic was of a full scale bike and rider when it started downloading. Except for the fuzzy helmet, that is. :p

STeve B in NC

Yeah, with all of the crashes this guy has been in he's not doing very well in the head area :D

[Kev71H]

Whao! Looka at that tiny RCMCC sticker!!!!!
http://dave.rcpics.net/deltarc7-11-04bikes/hor8.jpg

I'd swear that pic was of a full scale bike and rider when it started downloading. Except for the fuzzy helmet, that is. :p

STeve B in NC

[chainlube]

Hi again 1/8th racers, Kevin and Ian. I'm still waiting for my HOR Suzuki (maybe today). I haven't seen a Pepsi Suzuki paint scheme yet, and thought that might be the way to go for me. Any ideas on where to get, or how to make decals? I think I still have some pics I took of Schwantz and his Suzuki at the "89 U.S.G.P. I'll have to dig them out for reference.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[grymg]

Dave as long as you have a color printer you can make your own decals. Just get some blank sticker sheets from Office Max.

Have fun and take many pics!

[Deano1661]

Hi Dave, if I can get access to a scanner over the next couple of days, i'll scan my Non-HOR Pepsi Suzuki sticker sheet for you and post the image, Then you'll get a full set of stickers, rider included. :)

Deano

[grymg]

Deano can you hook me up with the sticker set too? I have been looking for Pepsi Suzuki ralated stuff for quite some time.

Dave in our club had the stickers but he applied them to his bike before he could scan them.

Thanks,
Ian

P.S. Does anybody have the Marlboro Lawson decals?

[chainlube]

:) Deano, that would be awsome! Will it post actual size? :confused: If not, you can e-mail it to me directly.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[chainlube]

:D Ian, great idea (Lawson)! :cool: Me too! I just picked up some spare bodywork from ebay, so I'll have 2 different sets. I'll need to find another rider too though.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[grymg]

Dave I see that you are definitely a motogp fan! Lawson's always a neat one to do - Cagiva or Yamaha version. Gotta do Pepsi Suzuki Schwantz and old school Honda Freddie Spencer first though.

Ian

[chainlube]

Ian, you've got me pegged! I'm a big Eddie Lawson fan. I've been following motogp since '83 (I hope I didn't just give away my age). I learned how to ride in '81, then won my first race at Willow Springs in '91.

Yea, this seems to be the start of a collection of rc bikes. Old school is a must. Any idea where I can get a few sets of the old Kyosho bodywork? Will it fit the hor?

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[grymg]

Cool - I'm a Schwantz fan, but only when he doesn't crash out. Then it's Rainey all the way. (It's no coincidence that their careers made up the "golden age" of racing '88-'93)

Following motogp since '83 huh? Wow you must be 21 years old or something :D ;) .

For old school body work you'll be pressed to find something on ebay - that's about it. I've been searching "kyosho bike" for a year now and have found only a handful of bodies sold. You're better off buying a used Mk1 and just taking the body off that. Oh and fairings fit the HOR no problem. Tanks don't.

Ian

[chainlube]

Ian, there's a Rothmans Honda mk1 on ebay right now for $70 (reserve not met; 0-bids; 2 days left).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2565&item=5915379831&rd=1

It seems to include everything...radio too. I wonder what the reserve is. I'm not sure I'm willing to find out.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[grymg]

For a person who wants an "RTR" fully built fully painted & detailed bike it's a decent deal but I've found those bikes sell for $50 or less when the starting price is $1. Definitely not worth it if you're going to be repainting the thing.

But still one of the coolest paintjobs though. That Rothmans-Honda partnership from the 80's-early 90's is the most famous in motorcycle racing.

Ian

[chainlube]

Ian, I think Irv Kenamoto had a lot to do with that (Rothman-Honda's success). When Rothmans announced that they were leaving motogp to go F-1 racing, it signaled the end of an era. I miss those golden years.

To keep this on-topic, I found your hor hop-up guide ver3 word doc., and will be following the advice. I do have one question though. Do you make the silicone inserts, or can you buy them? I need inserts for my 1/5 tt too.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[chainlube]

Ian, Here is a pic of Schwantz's pre-Pepsi Suzuki. What do you think of this nostalgic paint scheme?........OOPS! Wrong pic. Sorry.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave).

[grymg]

Erv Kanemoto was the man!! Responsible for taming Freddie's NSR500 back in the day and also developing the "big bang" Honda of 1992. Truly a motogp legend. OK, back on topic.

Sadly no one makes the inserts anymore that I know of. I got my originals from the old yahoo forum (someone made a batch of them) but they're all on my running bikes at the moment.

Read more about it here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radiocontrolmotorcycles/message/459
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radiocontrolmotorcycles/message/1473

The Kyosho guys from Florida have found a good substitute for the inserts, maybe they can chime in? I think they got some door sealer foam from Home Depot and stuffed it into the front tires to make them hard. Use the same kind of foam on the Kyosho rear but don't pack it in as much. We've found that since the rear is doing most of the braking and acceling work it needs more "give" in the tire.

As for the TT get some larger diameter foam from Home Depot. I couldn't find any circular cross sections so I bought square cross section strips and trimmed the edges to fit. They work as well as the ones you get from GRP as long as you trim them right.

Ian

[chainlube]

Ian, here's the Suzuki pic. I'll have to fix the size when I figure it out. I thought I attached it to the last post.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[grymg]

This is waaay nostalgic. No sponsor whatsoever (just part sponsors). I've seen pictures of it from Schwantz's website but nothing like this. I own some racing vids from 87 too but never caught him because he was always in the back of the pack. Nice find!

[chainlube]

Ian, the first video I have of Schwantz is on his Yoshimura-Suzuki at Laguna Seca in "87 I think. Rainey was on the VFR Superbike, and Polen was a privateer.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[chainlube]

Ian, here's the Suzuki pic. I'll have to fix the size when I figure it out. I thought I attached it to the last post.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

Ian, I didn't find the picture....I took it. Anaheim M/C show.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[chainlube]

Well 1/8 racers, my new Kyosho hor Suzuki was delivered today :D . I have most of my hop-ups already. I'm just waiting on a heat sink, alloy steering set and alloy wheels. I'll scrounge up some paint, and some sticker paper tomorrow.

I'm studying Ian's mod documents now. They are pretty straight foreward. The aluminum swingarm and brake discs would be nice too....if I could find some.

Hope you guys had fun at the races tonight. I'm jealous!

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[grymg]

I got the Mamba up and running before the race yesterday, but the other 1/8th'ers in the club couldn't make it. Anyways more on the race later.

Glad you got the heat sink Dave, I'm going to change my mod document.

At first I didn't use the heat sink for my 280BB and below motors, because for the added weight the heat sink isn't too much of a benefit. But with the hotter brushless motors out now, use it. It fits easliy over the 180sized can.

[katana2665]

Have any of you guys upgraded to the ly-poly or Tanic packs?

chris

[Chris Nicastro]

Don't know if any of you are interested, but Tamiya will soon release a prepainted predetailed version of their Repsol Honda 1/12 scale bike. It comes with a metal plated swingarm and frame!!

I see another R/C project coming up!!

(Yes, ANOTHER 1/12 one. This time we'll get 1st place at Tamiyacon!)


Best of luck on that one! If you make it I will come to see it a Tamiyacon.

Regards,
Chris

The OG 1/12 bike maker.

[Chris Nicastro]

I just installed the 8000Kv Mamba system in my HOR bike tonight. Which one is in yours? I'll have a pic of it later.

BTW, it will run on lipo Apogee cells @ 7.4V and 830mah.

[grymg]

Hi Chris,

I run the Mamba 6800 with 600mah NiCDs. The 8000 should be like a jet.

As for the 1/12th project, I was planning to work with Sammy on that one but it has dragged on. He knows exactly what to do, but I haven't talked to him lately. I'll try to revive it back up.

Ian

[Chris Nicastro]

The second gen ver. of the 1/12 bike is underway. I have to find some new electronics but the chassis and suspension have been worked on. It will be a Yamaha MZ 03 in Marlboro colors.

Your right about the 8K motor, it is a screamer and only at 7.4V now.

[chainlube]

Hi again 1/8 scale racers. Hey, I'm trying to find an alloy swingarm for my Kyosho HOR Suzuki. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? My internal search engine (human brain v1.0) has given up and needs to interface with another one!

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[Chris Nicastro]

Try GPM. They make one still I think. Not sure who has it here in the states but the have a site you can check out. Oh, and Ebay under Kyosho motorcycle / bike.

[steliosh]

I have bought the GPM swingarm from rcmart.com. Here it is: http://www.steliosh.net/rcmoto/rgv2/swingarm.html

[chainlube]

Hey everyone. I finished the assembly of my HOR last night. I'm still waiting on some brake discs, alloy wheels and a few other things...but here's a picture. I'll finish it all up with the Pepsi Suzuki scheme when I get some decals. More pictures then.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[chainlube]

I have bought the GPM swingarm from rcmart.com. Here it is: http://www.steliosh.net/rcmoto/rgv2/swingarm.html

Thanks Steliosh and C of G. I didn't find one at their web site, though I did leave them an e-mail. Stil looking. :cool:

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[steliosh]

Further on the GPM aluminum parts... I checked both www.stellamodels.net and rcmart.com and they seem not to feature any accessories for the bikes at the moment... maybe an email to either would do some help?

[miguelito]

check this online shop,
http://shop.the-border.nl/customer/home.php?cat=451

good luck
miguel

[vtl1180ny]

Ok... I've finally decided to get the Kyosho... and a bunch oh hop-ups at the same time.... Anyone able to add to my list???

Bike
Oil damped fork
rear shock
alloy gears
bearings
lightweight flyweel
high grip tires...

I'm also going to get a Mamba brushless....

What am I forgetting???

[Kev71H]

Dang! Doing it right aren't ya vtl1180ny ? Cool :cool:

[vtl1180ny]

Yea... If I'm going to do it, it's going to be all or nothing...

[grymg]

It'll be like going from a bicycle straight to a 1000cc 4-stroke GP bike!! Watch out for the gravel traps!

[vtl1180ny]

It'll be like going from a bicycle straight to a 1000cc 4-stroke GP bike!! Watch out for the gravel traps!

Well considering that I've been riding since I was 8 and I currently own a worked CB1, VFR and R1 and I'm a retired Highway Patrol Motorcycle Cop, I'm not really worried... hehehehe....

If I was going to get the bike, I was going to do all the hop-ups when I build it... It's not like I'm the one who's going to loop it personally...

[chainlube]

vtl1180ny
O.K. ...how about an aluminum gearbox; Heatsink; Topcad brake discs; Receiver/servo set; Steering damper; Oval washers for gearbox;

Check page 2 of this thread for some info on where to get some of the parts. Also check e-bay...search "rc motorcycle"
also... http://stores.ebay.com/rl0725-store_1-8-Motorcycle-Parts_W0QQssPageNameZVIStoreHeaderLinksQQtZkm

and...http://shop.the-border.nl/customer/search.php?substring=topcad&in_category=
for the brake discs.

I also found some GPM aluminum rims on e-bay here..http://stores.ebay.com/rl0725-store_1-8-Motorcycle-Parts_W0QQssPageNameZVIStoreHeaderLinksQQtZkm
The rims weren't listed, but an e-mail to him proved successful.

Tower Hobbies has some stuff now too...http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0005p?&I=KYOC0107&P=Z

I'm sure you have already found many of these sites, but I try to be thorough.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)
p.s. got any Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free cards?

[vtl1180ny]

You guys running the Mamba's, I'm stumped... I don't know if I should get the 6800 or 8000 motor...

Chainlube, I don't think they'd work in Colorado....

[grymg]

I'm blown away by the speed of the 6800, so I would recommend that. However "C of G" put the 8000 in his bike, not sure what came out of that.

Dave I have some of those cards in the garage. Let me dust off monopoly. . .

Ian

[Kev71H]

I can't wait to get a Mamba 6800 and I don't even have a 1/8 yet!!!!!!!

The 8000 is too much for the lithiums I plan to use. Just too much amp pull. I think the 6800 is a great choice being how "you can get too much of a good thing"

You may just end up tearing up your bike if you can't control it because of too much power.

Just my thoughts,

Kevin H.
RCMCC

[vtl1180ny]

My concern with the 8000 is low speed torque and how quickly it's going to go through batteries...

I have the bike ordered should hopefully have it by the end of next week... Burnout 3 is coming out wednesday so I'm going to be pretty busy in front of the boob tube...

[grymg]

FYI -

Whoever was looking for an aluminum swingarm for the HOR dinball has them in stock again. They must be pulling them out a discontinued hat or something.

Ian

[chainlube]

Thanks Ian. That was me!

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[grymg]

=) =)

[steliosh]

...or maybe they are reading THIS forum and our wishes, Ian!

Dave, you didn't show us that nice little avatar pic in a bigger size, did you?! If you did, forgive me, I'll have a thorough look into "your r/c bike pics"!

[chainlube]

Steliosh...your/e right, I didn't. I'll post a couple over there now (got to keep this thread 1:8).

Dave (Chainlube By Dave).

[vtl1180ny]

Well, my bike and hop-ups are on their way... Need to get a motor/controller and servo... Does the bike take micro or regular servo's???

[grymg]

Definitely micro. Currently I run Hitec HS-81 servo w/ plastic gears (don't get metal gears because they strip the servo horn), Mamba ESC, Mamba motor, and Novak XXL FM receiver in the tail section. Velcro it in so you can easily take it out to do crystal swaps. Also loop the antenna wire through the seat into the rider's body.

Ian

[chainlube]

Wish I had that info a few minutes ago when I ordered another Futaba radio set for my spare bike. Yes Ian, I decided to use all of those spare parts and just build a spare bike.

Dave (Chainlube By Dave)

[Chris Nicastro]

Ok, a running report on the Mamba 8000, its freaking FAST.
There is no problem with power anywhere at any time. From half throttle just pull a little more and wheelies are so easy, even easier when theres grip or it just slides. Since the overall weight has been reduced the bike handles better too. I'm using a 2 cell Apogee 7.4V 830mah pack and the run time so far is estimated at 20 min. Temps are low for both ESC and motor/batt. no worries and its geared at 13T with an HPI metal pinion and metal gear hop up from Kyosho. The suspension must be set way soft in order to handle some of the power, theres too much for this bike to handle anyway.
Its not fr the faint of heart and the crashes are not a pretty sight, Ive had two that I thought would write off the bike but its fine! Because theres less inertia in the motor the gears dont strip from a minor crash like they tend to do with a brushed motor sometimes and I run the mesh on the loose side to help the gears, very minor play.

If you want something that commands respect I think you need the 8000KV motor!! Look at it this way, its more like GP1 now! BTW do the math at 8000KV X 7.4V = 59200rpm! So imagine 11.1V! 88800rpm and a whole lot of torque with the new progammable throttle curve from CC. I dont think the motor will stand up to that rpm but you will see most of it!

[Chris Nicastro]

Couple of shots of the install. :eek:

[mollycbr123]

Very nice. No substitute for horsepower (my motto). Ya just gotta get it to the ground!!!


STeve B in NC

[vtl1180ny]

Wow... On labor day my NSR comes via the Post Office... I don't even have a reciever or servo for, let alone the brushless for it yet...

[katana2665]

Nice Bike...I really, really really need to finish building mine...:(

chris

[vtl1180ny]

Help... What shock oil in the rear shock??? Hahaha...

I'm spraying all the plastic parts that are supposed to be metal with Eastwood Alumina Blast paint... Looks like freshly cast aluminum...

[Chris Nicastro]

what shock? spring? how heavy is the bike and what tires are you running? It takes a bunch of tuning to get the right combo that works great for a surface and then it wont work somewhere else. Try everything! Soft spring thinner oil harder spring thicker oil and that doesnt even consider the piston hole #. Try everything! See what works for you and dont give up. Start with 45wt and see what happens.

[vtl1180ny]

I trtied 40 weight associated and the shoch was way too stiff... It's the stock Kyosho spring that comes with the oil shock...

[Chris Nicastro]

IMHO, the Kyosho shock isnt good. I have tried it and now I use a Tamiya TRF shock with a threaded body. I use a Tamiya flourescent red spring with it but now that the bike is lighter I have to go with a softer spring.

[grymg]

Same opinion here. As far as I remember inside the Kyosho shock there are no holes in the piston. The fluid moves along the sides of the cylinder, which is a lot of surface area. I would go maybe with diff oil in the 1000's wt. to get enough damping from this "nail-type" piston.

Currently I use an upside down HPI touring super shock w/#5 piston. With the holes you can go back to ordinary shock oils.

Ian

[grymg]

Oh and Chris, nice bike! I saved every one as usual. I miss seeing that familiar "Castrol" paint scheme you have.

I also see you have taken away your "push and pull" direct steering on the triples. Or probably because this is a new bike.

Ian

[vtl1180ny]

Ordered my Castle Mamba 6800, should hopefully be here soon... I was going to go for the 8000 but I was planning on going 3 cell lipo, 6800 should be more than enough...

[Chris Nicastro]

Hey Ian,
Yeah I went back to conventional since this is a new chassis. For now anyway. Thanks, I'm glad you like the scheme, its easy to do and no paint so fixing it is no prob, I have an awesome Rainey Marlboro body set I converted to Yamaha from a Honda/Suzuki but I wont run it.

vtl1180ny,
Ca'mon man! Get the 8K! ok, whatever, its your bike, do what you want, I warned you, the other guys will be talking about it around the water cooler at work saying "theres that guy that should have bought the 8K Mamba Motor but got the slower one instead........couldnt handle i.........not brass b.....pus....."
I hope your happy, I wont say anything, I tried ....

:D