Which simulator allows view from inisde the plane ?

[Ton den Hartog]

Hi,

which of the available simulars allows a look from inside the plane or
helicopter as if you were flying the real thing ? As far as I can tell most
only allow a view from you standing on the ground with your tranmitter and
the plane far away.

Ton den Hartog

[Funfly3]

"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> which of the available simulars allows a look from inside the plane or
> helicopter as if you were flying the real thing ? As far as I can tell
> most only allow a view from you standing on the ground with your
> tranmitter and the plane far away.
>
> Ton den Hartog
>
>
but that's the point of a model simulator ?? Microsoft's flight simulator is
more of what your after

[Adrian Smith]

"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> which of the available simulars allows a look from inside the plane or
> helicopter as if you were flying the real thing ? As far as I can tell
> most only allow a view from you standing on the ground with your
> tranmitter and the plane far away.
>
> Ton den Hartog
>
>

Real Flight G2 let you view from cockpit.

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Superb aerial pictures of UK football stadiums.

[Adrian Smith]

"Funfly3" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
> news:4342d3a5$0$11065$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> which of the available simulars allows a look from inside the plane or
>> helicopter as if you were flying the real thing ? As far as I can tell
>> most only allow a view from you standing on the ground with your
>> tranmitter and the plane far away.
>>
>> Ton den Hartog
>>
>>
> but that's the point of a model simulator ?? Microsoft's flight simulator
> is more of what your after
>

I agree.

If you want to fly a plane get a simulator. MS Flight sim is not bad.

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www.YourStadium.com
Superb aerial pictures of UK football stadiums.

[Ton den Hartog]

> but that's the point of a model simulator ?? Microsoft's flight simulator
> is more of what your after

You have a point but why not have both instead of only the ground point of
view ? Are you never jealous of the view that your model has there, high in
the sky ? I would !

Ton

[Funfly3]

"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
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>> but that's the point of a model simulator ?? Microsoft's flight simulator
>> is more of what your after
>
> You have a point but why not have both instead of only the ground point of
> view ? Are you never jealous of the view that your model has there, high
> in the sky ? I would !
>
> Ton
>
>
>
Not really I use flight unlimited 3 for a real [lanes point of view

[Steve R]

"Adrian Smith" <A.Smith@YourStadium.com> wrote in message
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> "Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
> news:4342d3a5$0$11065$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> which of the available simulars allows a look from inside the plane or
>> helicopter as if you were flying the real thing ? As far as I can tell
>> most only allow a view from you standing on the ground with your
>> tranmitter and the plane far away.
>>
>> Ton den Hartog
>>
>>
>
> Real Flight G2 let you view from cockpit.
>
> --
> Adrian Smith


So does G3!

Steve R.

[Adrian Smith]

"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
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>> but that's the point of a model simulator ?? Microsoft's flight simulator
>> is more of what your after
>
> You have a point but why not have both instead of only the ground point of
> view ? Are you never jealous of the view that your model has there, high
> in the sky ? I would !
>
> Ton
>
>
>
>

Flying from the cockpit on G2 is a diversion when you've had enough of
practice, but the novelty soon wares off.

If you want to see what your heli sees, put a camera on your heli.
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Superb aerial pictures of UK football stadiums.

[Ron van Sommeren]

off_topic

Ton, are you familiar with www.modelbouwforum.nl ?

Vriendelijke groeten ;-) Ron van Sommeren
near Nijmegen, the Netherlands
http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/


"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> which of the available simulars allows a look from inside the plane or
> helicopter as if you were flying the real thing ? As far as I can tell
> most only allow a view from you standing on the ground with your
> tranmitter and the plane far away.
>
> Ton den Hartog
>
>

[The OTHER Kevin in San Diego]

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:19:06 GMT, "Adrian Smith"
<A.Smith@YourStadium.com> wrote:

>"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
>news:4342d3a5$0$11065$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> which of the available simulars allows a look from inside the plane or
>> helicopter as if you were flying the real thing ? As far as I can tell
>> most only allow a view from you standing on the ground with your
>> tranmitter and the plane far away.
>>
>> Ton den Hartog
>>
>>
>
>Real Flight G2 let you view from cockpit.

or from a trail position...

[The OTHER Kevin in San Diego]

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:49:05 GMT, "Adrian Smith"
<A.Smith@YourStadium.com> wrote:

>"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
>news:4342d8f0$0$11068$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>>> but that's the point of a model simulator ?? Microsoft's flight simulator
>>> is more of what your after
>>
>> You have a point but why not have both instead of only the ground point of
>> view ? Are you never jealous of the view that your model has there, high
>> in the sky ? I would !
>>
>> Ton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Flying from the cockpit on G2 is a diversion when you've had enough of
>practice, but the novelty soon wares off.
>
>If you want to see what your heli sees, put a camera on your heli.

Plunk down the bazillion dollars an hour and fly the real thing....

[Beav]

"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
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>> but that's the point of a model simulator ?? Microsoft's flight simulator
>> is more of what your after
>
> You have a point but why not have both instead of only the ground point of
> view ? Are you never jealous of the view that your model has there, high
> in the sky ? I would !

There used to be a model sim with that camera. I think it was
called"Skylark" or some such. Crap graphics, but quite entertaining.


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[The OTHER Kevin in San Diego]

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:55:43 +0100, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote:

>
>"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
>news:4342d8f0$0$11068$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>>> but that's the point of a model simulator ?? Microsoft's flight simulator
>>> is more of what your after
>>
>> You have a point but why not have both instead of only the ground point of
>> view ? Are you never jealous of the view that your model has there, high
>> in the sky ? I would !
>
>There used to be a model sim with that camera. I think it was
>called"Skylark" or some such. Crap graphics, but quite entertaining.

I used to have a copy of that Skylark sim. Hacked up an old
transmitter and cobbled up my own PAL chip to make it work. Horrible
graphics compared to today's stuff, but for 1992 technology, it wasn't
too bad. Helped me learn to hover...

[daddiozz]

whats the point of having an "inside the cockpit"view on a R/C simulator?..the logic escapes me.

[The OTHER Kevin in San Diego]

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:27:09 -0500, daddioz
<daddioz.1wg10b@rcgroups.com> wrote:

>
>whats the point of having an "inside the cockpit"view on a R/C
>simulator?..the logic escapes me.

Change of pace.. Want a challenge? Change the Patriot's power plant
to the 43lb thrust tubine and use the "inside the cockpit" view and
try to fly it... :)

[Beav]

"daddioz" <daddioz.1wg10b@rcgroups.com> wrote in message
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>
> whats the point of having an "inside the cockpit"view on a R/C
> simulator?..the logic escapes me.

Logic be damned, it's fun.


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[hozr]

Ya know Beav,

I gotta agree totaly....
Function and logic are wonderful but only get you so far...usualy it is
enough. But sometimes you just gotta have fun.

Case in point:
Hasselblad vs. Mamiya (pro photo cameras)

The Hasselblad is PERFECT. Literaly. It is a german made machine that is
both handcrafted and laser/computer tuned. There is NO finer optics
available to the civilian public. The pricetag also fits such a
beauty...about $15k for thebody alone. Problem is..Hasselblad have absolutly
no frills. It is a pros camera. If you need fun little frills you aren't
ready for a Hass.

On the other hand the Mamiya is loaded almost to the point of humor with fun
little gagets (depending on the model you buy). It is a wonderful camera
even for pro commercial work. It just isnt anywhere near the Hasselblad. It
is DAMN fun to shoot with though. Lightweight and agile even on a tripod.
Plus at a price tag of just over $2.5k for a decent Mamiya body it is in the
price range of most private photography enthusiasts who make it as far as
medium format.

Ok so this is WAY off topic but my rant wouldn't stayput.

[Beav]

"Ron van Sommeren" <ron.van.sommeren_curly_thingy_hetnet.nl> wrote in
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> Hmmm, Beav has an ego problem it seems, he still hasn't managed to
> apologise.

Apoligise for what?


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[FiDo]

FOR BEING A SCOUSER

"Beav" <beavis.original@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote in message
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> > Apoligise for what?

[FiDo]

WITH A DEAD GINGER TOM-CAT ON HIS HEAD

"FiDo" <FiDo@kennels.com> wrote in message
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> FOR BEING A SCOUSER
>
> "Beav" <beavis.original@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote in message
> news:11l01j57vs1el3c@news.supernews.com...
>> > Apoligise for what?
>
>

[The OTHER Kevin in San Diego]

On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 01:28:48 GMT, "FiDo" <FiDo@kennels.com> wrote:

>WITH A DEAD GINGER TOM-CAT ON HIS HEAD
>
>"FiDo" <FiDo@kennels.com> wrote in message
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>> FOR BEING A SCOUSER

I have no fuggin' idea what a "Scouser with a dead ginger tom-cat on
his head" is, but it made me chuckle..

[FiDo]

Kevin,

The name "Scouser" is given to someone who comes from Liverpool UK (where
the Beatles came from by the way).
It can be used in a derogatory manner, as Scousers have been stereotyped by
the media as lazy, dishonest, drug taking, thieving etc.
Beavis is proud of living in Lancashire, "up-north". Calling him a Scouser
might be taken as a bit of an insult.

As for "WITH A DEAD GINGER TOM-CAT ON HIS HEAD"
http://www.dexigner.com/images/content/news/3135.jpg
For some unknown reason, I always imagined Beavis as being bald as a
cue-ball (I think I saw a slap head on his website a long time ago and
assumed it was him).
He always maintained he had a thick plume of hair, so I imagined that he
wears a bright ginger toupee, a bit like Donald Trumpf.

Now Beavis will probably tell you I'm a sourvern poof that drinks german
fizzy lemonade.

I hope you have been suitably enlightened, and welcome to the world of
north/south abuse exchange.



"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
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> On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 01:28:48 GMT, "FiDo" <FiDo@kennels.com> wrote:
>
>>WITH A DEAD GINGER TOM-CAT ON HIS HEAD
>>
>>"FiDo" <FiDo@kennels.com> wrote in message
>>news:kVY3f.1413$WI4.435@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>> FOR BEING A SCOUSER
>
> I have no fuggin' idea what a "Scouser with a dead ginger tom-cat on
> his head" is, but it made me chuckle..
>
>

[Beav]

"FiDo" <FiDo@kennels.com> wrote in message
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> Kevin,
>
> The name "Scouser" is given to someone who comes from Liverpool UK (where
> the Beatles came from by the way).
> It can be used in a derogatory manner, as Scousers have been stereotyped
> by the media as lazy, dishonest, drug taking, thieving etc.
> Beavis is proud of living in Lancashire, "up-north". Calling him a Scouser
> might be taken as a bit of an insult.

It would if I lived theer:-))

>
> As for "WITH A DEAD GINGER TOM-CAT ON HIS HEAD"
> http://www.dexigner.com/images/content/news/3135.jpg
> For some unknown reason, I always imagined Beavis as being bald as a
> cue-ball (I think I saw a slap head on his website a long time ago and
> assumed it was him).

Bald? Until a few weeks ago, I had hair down to my shoulders and not a shiny
bit in sight. Now that I've removed it, there's STILL not a bald spot in
sight. I have a LOVELY head of hair.

> He always maintained he had a thick plume of hair, so I imagined that he
> wears a bright ginger toupee, a bit like Donald Trumpf.

MRS Trump if you please.
>
> Now Beavis will probably tell you I'm a sourvern poof that drinks german
> fizzy lemonade.

Savern cant wot drinks bottled water more like.

>
> I hope you have been suitably enlightened, and welcome to the world of
> north/south abuse exchange.

We've not begun yet.


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[The OTHER Kevin in San Diego]

On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:51:41 GMT, "FiDo" <FiDo@kennels.com> wrote:

>Kevin,
>
>The name "Scouser" is given to someone who comes from Liverpool UK (where
>the Beatles came from by the way).

Never did like the Beatles..

>It can be used in a derogatory manner, as Scousers have been stereotyped by
>the media as lazy, dishonest, drug taking, thieving etc.

Ah, the "trailer trash" of the UK..

>Beavis is proud of living in Lancashire, "up-north". Calling him a Scouser
>might be taken as a bit of an insult.

So what you're syaing is Beav is a snooty Brit? :)

>As for "WITH A DEAD GINGER TOM-CAT ON HIS HEAD"
>http://www.dexigner.com/images/content/news/3135.jpg
>For some unknown reason, I always imagined Beavis as being bald as a
>cue-ball (I think I saw a slap head on his website a long time ago and
>assumed it was him).
>He always maintained he had a thick plume of hair, so I imagined that he
>wears a bright ginger toupee, a bit like Donald Trumpf.

OK, I *THOUGHT* that might have been a reference to some type of "hair
replacement system", but then I remembered I'm trying to decipher
"English" and figured it might be something toally different.

>Now Beavis will probably tell you I'm a sourvern poof that drinks german
>fizzy lemonade.

I guess that's a little better than "garlic breathed tosser"...
(izzit?)

>I hope you have been suitably enlightened, and welcome to the world of
>north/south abuse exchange.

Slightly enlightened would be more appropriate..

Can't wait to see Beav's responses in the next two message he's
posted...

[Buster Craphole]

"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in
news:4342d3a5$0$11065$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl:

> Hi,
>
> which of the available simulars allows a look from inside the plane or
> helicopter as if you were flying the real thing ? As far as I can tell
> most only allow a view from you standing on the ground with your
> tranmitter and the plane far away.
>
> Ton den Hartog
>
>

You can change the camera angle in Real Flight G3 to view the flight from
the cockpit. I do it once in a while but it really doesn't help you to
become a better RC pilot.

If you are looking for a good "free" flight sim try warbirds. They have
great planes and the models are very well researched. Give it a try.The
only bad thing about it is, it is a very large download but worth the time.

[Beav]

"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
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> To make this on-topic again, I have ordered Reflex :-))))

Excellent sim that is. Truly a sim amongst sims.
>
> And here we talk "brabants", so : howdoe !!

How DO? Duzn't tha mean "How do MON"?


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[Ton den Hartog]

>> And here we talk "brabants", so : howdoe !!
>
> How DO? Duzn't tha mean "How do MON"?

It sound like the english "how do (you do)" but is a pull-together of
(Dutch) "hou je goed" or (English) " keep yourself good/ok".

Ton

[Ton den Hartog]

> If you are looking for a good "free" flight sim try warbirds. They have
> great planes and the models are very well researched. Give it a try.The
> only bad thing about it is, it is a very large download but worth the
> time.

I must say I felt a bit very much anti-war when seeing the intro-movie where
a good guy was shooting at a plane with a "bad" guy.....

Ton

[Beav]

"Ton den Hartog" <ton.den.hartog AT tonh.net> wrote in message
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>>> And here we talk "brabants", so : howdoe !!
>>
>> How DO? Duzn't tha mean "How do MON"?
>
> It sound like the english "how do (you do)" but is a pull-together of
> (Dutch) "hou je goed" or (English) " keep yourself good/ok".

Jätte bra :-)


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[The OTHER Kevin in San Diego]

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:17:43 +0100, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote:


>You live in California, so all language rules are held in limbo.

I think you're thinking of New York....

>Well it's his job after all.

He should make movies and do like the rest of us concerning his
personal life - STFU...


>Buggered my biking too:-(

She got me there too. Scrubbed the flight and couldn't ride 'cuz it
started to drizzle... Full on rain I'll ride in after about an hour
of washing the oils off the road.. Drizzle?? No way.. Too friggin'
slippery to do anything but putt-putt around...

>> I see your priorities are knackered as well...
>
>Always:-)

hehe.. Like I have room to talk...

[Beav]

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
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> On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:17:43 +0100, "Beav"
> <beavis.original@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote:
>
>
>>You live in California, so all language rules are held in limbo.
>
> I think you're thinking of New York....

You don't LIKE the way Sly Stallone talks? :)

>
>>Well it's his job after all.
>
> He should make movies and do like the rest of us concerning his
> personal life - STFU...

Well there is that, but I've not seen him on TV or in the papers over here
for quite some time, so I'm in the dark about his love life.
>
>
>>Buggered my biking too:-(
>
> She got me there too. Scrubbed the flight and couldn't ride 'cuz it
> started to drizzle... Full on rain I'll ride in after about an hour
> of washing the oils off the road.. Drizzle?? No way.. Too friggin'
> slippery to do anything but putt-putt around...

I drove out of the little place I live and the cntre of the lanes looked
like rainbows with all the oil/diesel on the road. I was more than pleased
to know my bikes were safely tucked up in the garage.

>
>>> I see your priorities are knackered as well...
>>
>>Always:-)
>
> hehe.. Like I have room to talk...

Not a lot, I have to say:-)


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