Do People who fly Airplanes look down on Helicopter Pilots?

[SnowFalcon66]

I don't know about other cities but, in Kansas, it seems that there is
no place for Helio's pilots to belong to any clubs. It is mostly
Airplane pilots. There might be maybe 2-3 people in these clubs that
fly Helio's. What is it like in other area's?

[SnowFalcon66]

What we should do is the same to them

[Suspenders]

I don't know about other cities but, in Kansas, it seems that there is
no place for Helio's pilots to belong to any clubs. It is mostly
Airplane pilots. There might be maybe 2-3 people in these clubs that
fly Helio's. What is it like in other area's?

In the old days, 99% of Copter pilots couldn't fly and always crashed, scaring the heck out of everyone at the field. That mindset has changed.
Furthermore, try as we may copter and planes just don't really get along. However, with more and more planes hovering, that may change in the future.

[Steve R]

Helicopters are still a small minority in the RC world, especially in rural
areas. Around larger cities (I live south of Houston) it's not as big a
deal. We've got a relatively active group of heli fliers around here. You
will always run into those fixed wing pilot who, for whatever reason, just
don't like helicopters. I think they're just intimidated but sometimes
they're just prejuditial a-holes.

Have you been denied membership or access to an RC field because you're
flying a helicopter?

Steve R.


"SnowFalcon66" <falcon45@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>I don't know about other cities but, in Kansas, it seems that there is
> no place for Helio's pilots to belong to any clubs. It is mostly
> Airplane pilots. There might be maybe 2-3 people in these clubs that
> fly Helio's. What is it like in other area's?
>

[The OTHER Kevin in San Diego]

On 1 Oct 2005 00:24:38 -0700, "SnowFalcon66" <falcon45@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>I don't know about other cities but, in Kansas, it seems that there is
>no place for Helio's pilots to belong to any clubs. It is mostly
>Airplane pilots. There might be maybe 2-3 people in these clubs that
>fly Helio's. What is it like in other area's?

There are a fiew fields near me that don't particularly care for helo
traffic - probably due to noise more than anything - but other than
that, it's pretty friendly around here. As far as clubs go, I don't
know of any local clubs that even have helos to rent. Cost of helo
flying makes "hobby" flying prohibitive.

Personally, I feel flying helos takes a little more skill than tooling
around in an airplane (not counting the aerobatic pilots) but I don't
look down on anyone who flies. It's a pretty elite club when you look
at the number of certificated pilots compared to the general
population. Sort of like looking down on people who drive a Ford when
you drive a Mercedes.. Assinine. (Besides, my Ford truck probably
cost me as much as that Mercedes with the purchase price and all the
stuff I've bolted on over the years. heheh)

[The OTHER Kevin in San Diego]

On 1 Oct 2005 00:24:38 -0700, "SnowFalcon66" <falcon45@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>I don't know about other cities but, in Kansas, it seems that there is
>no place for Helio's pilots to belong to any clubs. It is mostly
>Airplane pilots. There might be maybe 2-3 people in these clubs that
>fly Helio's. What is it like in other area's?

hahaha!!. Disregard my other post.. I didn't notice what group I was
in until after I mashed the Send button... Probably doesn't help I
just got back from a long cross-country either...

[SnowFalcon66]

Yes, I really wanted to join a local club and once they learned I was a
coptor flyer their voices went deep and they lost al interest in me.


Brian

[SnowFalcon66]

I've been debating about trying to start a club for ALL flying
members.I would want the members to be able to go to the field and fly
when they want to, not just at club meetings and fly-ins. Of course we
would have to address the safety issue but, if you can fly an object in
the air then you should pretty well know what's going on around you.
Newbe's would have a trainer with them.


Just some idea's off my bald head!!!


Thanks to all those that wrote!

Brian

[Beav]

"SnowFalcon66" <falcon45@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>I don't know about other cities but, in Kansas, it seems that there is
> no place for Helio's pilots to belong to any clubs. It is mostly
> Airplane pilots. There might be maybe 2-3 people in these clubs that
> fly Helio's. What is it like in other area's?

Mostly the same thing. Plank flyers are jealous of heli flyers because what
the planks can do, WE can do, but we can do it all backwards too:-)

Let them live in their own little cloud cuckoo land I say. Find somewhere
that heli flyers rule and forget the plankers.


--
Beav

Reply to "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious
changes)

[G MAN]

We have a great field. we have an L shaped runway and helo's use one
and planes use the other. the planes have choice for wind direction.
All our heli pilots fly planes also, and we get along great. We also
have a 6' 4' cop that flys heli's so theres not much arguing happening.
DOUG

[metalbuggy]

To answer your question, I think it is the opposite. All the airplane pilots I know look up to heli pilots. :D
Flying helis is a tricky lot!

[Steve R]

I've run into both types. Those who, for whatever reason, can't stand
helicopters and don't want them around, and don't mind telling you about it
(I think it's mainly a jealousy issue with most of these guys), and those
who admire them, like to watch them fly, but for whatever reason are too
intimidated to try them. Sometimes that last part is a genuine fear of the
machine but mostly I think it's just a financial decision.

Fly Safe,
Steve R.


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> To answer your question, I think it is the opposite. All the airplane
> pilots I know look up to heli pilots. :D
> Flying helis is a tricky lot!
>
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[Funfly3]

"Steve R" <srhodes13@houston.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I've run into both types. Those who, for whatever reason, can't stand
> helicopters and don't want them around, and don't mind telling you about
> it (I think it's mainly a jealousy issue with most of these guys), and
> those who admire them, like to watch them fly, but for whatever reason are
> too intimidated to try them. Sometimes that last part is a genuine fear
> of the machine but mostly I think it's just a financial decision.
>
for me it was financial for holding back as long as I did as you can badly
land a plank flip it upside down snap the prop and knock of the fin and it
cost next to nothing to fix try that with a helicopter and your looking at
£50 at least I put my T-rex down to hard and wreaked the tail boom, blades,
main shaft, blade holders, paddle shaft ,tail box and it was a darn site
more than a prop

[Steve R]

"Funfly3" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve R" <srhodes13@houston.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> I've run into both types. Those who, for whatever reason, can't stand
>> helicopters and don't want them around, and don't mind telling you about
>> it (I think it's mainly a jealousy issue with most of these guys), and
>> those who admire them, like to watch them fly, but for whatever reason
>> are too intimidated to try them. Sometimes that last part is a genuine
>> fear of the machine but mostly I think it's just a financial decision.
>>
> for me it was financial for holding back as long as I did as you can badly
> land a plank flip it upside down snap the prop and knock of the fin and it
> cost next to nothing to fix try that with a helicopter and your looking at
> £50 at least I put my T-rex down to hard and wreaked the tail boom,
> blades, main shaft, blade holders, paddle shaft ,tail box and it was a
> darn site more than a prop
>

You're right, the airplanes almost always have it easier in the "light"
mishaps. Step it up to the medium mishaps and the airplane will still be
"cheaper" to rebuild but it will also be lot more of a PITA to rebuild. It
will also, more than likely, wind up being much heavier from the added glue
and reinforcements that may be required. This isn't a big deal on the first
couple of rebuilds but it definitely adds up after multiple rebuilds.
Helicopters don't have that problem.

The thing with heli's is, you never really know how bad it's going to be.
I've seen machines drove into the ground from 40 feet up and literally
didn't need much more than a set of rotor blades, a flybar and main mast.
That's rare but is does happen. I've also seen model helicopters all but
totally rekitted from a simple roll over in a 6" hover. Go figure?

Fly Safe,
Steve R.

[dingo]

there used to be a time that planes fly's and heli hooverd. For some reason
planes hoover now and helis learned flying

TM
"Suspenders" <Suspenders.1w85ob@rcgroups.com> schreef in bericht
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>
> SnowFalcon66 Wrote:
>> I don't know about other cities but, in Kansas, it seems that there is
>> no place for Helio's pilots to belong to any clubs. It is mostly
>> Airplane pilots. There might be maybe 2-3 people in these clubs that
>> fly Helio's. What is it like in other area's?
>
> In the old days, 99% of Copter pilots couldn't fly and always crashed,
> scaring the heck out of everyone at the field. That mindset has
> changed.
> Furthermore, try as we may copter and planes just don't really get
> along. However, with more and more planes hovering, that may change in
> the future.
>
>
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[Steve R]

"dingo" <dingo@VT4.net> wrote in message
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> there used to be a time that planes fly's and heli hooverd. For some
> reason planes hoover now and helis learned flying
>
> TM

Too true! I hadn't thought of it that way.

The main thing I remember getting frustrated with, way back when ;-), was
hearing the fixed wing guys mumble, after I'd just sweated another tank of
fuel through the model, "Is that all he does but hover?"

Fly Safe,
Steve R.

[Celsian]

Unfortunately, when it comes to heli's hitting the ground, it's
literally about 1000 parts trying to rip them selves apart. Like
knocking a glass off the counter, if you hit the ground at just the
right angle, and speed, you may end up with very little damage. On the
other hand it could blast into a million pieces. Luck of the draw really.
Pilots seem to complain about the rotors flying in different directions
and maybe hitting people. Well, compare that to someone getting hit by
one of those big planes going 45mph. LOL.

_Lucas

Steve R wrote:
> "Funfly3" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>>"Steve R" <srhodes13@houston.rr.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:gxh0f.9328$Q53.8367@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>>>I've run into both types. Those who, for whatever reason, can't stand
>>>helicopters and don't want them around, and don't mind telling you about
>>>it (I think it's mainly a jealousy issue with most of these guys), and
>>>those who admire them, like to watch them fly, but for whatever reason
>>>are too intimidated to try them. Sometimes that last part is a genuine
>>>fear of the machine but mostly I think it's just a financial decision.
>>>
>>
>>for me it was financial for holding back as long as I did as you can badly
>>land a plank flip it upside down snap the prop and knock of the fin and it
>>cost next to nothing to fix try that with a helicopter and your looking at
>>£50 at least I put my T-rex down to hard and wreaked the tail boom,
>>blades, main shaft, blade holders, paddle shaft ,tail box and it was a
>>darn site more than a prop
>>
>
>
> You're right, the airplanes almost always have it easier in the "light"
> mishaps. Step it up to the medium mishaps and the airplane will still be
> "cheaper" to rebuild but it will also be lot more of a PITA to rebuild. It
> will also, more than likely, wind up being much heavier from the added glue
> and reinforcements that may be required. This isn't a big deal on the first
> couple of rebuilds but it definitely adds up after multiple rebuilds.
> Helicopters don't have that problem.
>
> The thing with heli's is, you never really know how bad it's going to be.
> I've seen machines drove into the ground from 40 feet up and literally
> didn't need much more than a set of rotor blades, a flybar and main mast.
> That's rare but is does happen. I've also seen model helicopters all but
> totally rekitted from a simple roll over in a 6" hover. Go figure?
>
> Fly Safe,
> Steve R.
>
>

[Steve R]

Well, it's not quite that bad, at least not all of the time. Unfortunately,
there's no real rhyme or reason as to how much damage will be done in any
given crash. Heli crashes are generally more spectacular than airplane
crashes but the fixed wing guys have NO room to talk with regards to the
dangers. I've seen plenty of close calls through the years where some
airplane almost hit someone or something and unless you're talking about a
Kadet Senior, they were flying a good deal faster than 45 mph!!

Fly Safe,
Steve R.


"Celsian" <celsian@thetankslapper.biz> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately, when it comes to heli's hitting the ground, it's literally
> about 1000 parts trying to rip them selves apart. Like knocking a glass
> off the counter, if you hit the ground at just the right angle, and speed,
> you may end up with very little damage. On the other hand it could blast
> into a million pieces. Luck of the draw really.
> Pilots seem to complain about the rotors flying in different directions
> and maybe hitting people. Well, compare that to someone getting hit by one
> of those big planes going 45mph. LOL.
>
> _Lucas
>