Pics of awesome Savage wreck...........

[\Doc\]

Howdy,

Well, the same tree that claimed the life of my left-front a-arm a few weeks
back has struck again! This time it took out a wee bit more than the a-arm
however.

The tree is located on my property/track on a slight bend at the end of a
long straightaway, so by the time you get to the bend you're at full speed.
If you don't hit the turn just right it's gonzo time.

Here are the pics:
http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2_itemId=18121

I didn't know you could hurt one of these things that badly! It actually
rendered it immovable under it's own power, which is a first among all the
Sav's I've run with. I managed to find all the parts that blew off in the
wreck save about 8 screws that were ripped out of the transmission case and
will ikely be found by my tractor the next time I mow the grass. <g>

Doc

[TA02]

On 9/13/05 8:38 PM, in article eMqdnTPfWqq77LreRVn-tg@adelphia.com, ""Doc""
<nospam@noway.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> Well, the same tree that claimed the life of my left-front a-arm a few weeks
> back has struck again! This time it took out a wee bit more than the a-arm
> however.
>
> The tree is located on my property/track on a slight bend at the end of a
> long straightaway, so by the time you get to the bend you're at full speed.
> If you don't hit the turn just right it's gonzo time.
>
> Here are the pics:
> http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowItem&
> g2_itemId=18121
>
> I didn't know you could hurt one of these things that badly! It actually
> rendered it immovable under it's own power, which is a first among all the
> Sav's I've run with. I managed to find all the parts that blew off in the
> wreck save about 8 screws that were ripped out of the transmission case and
> will ikely be found by my tractor the next time I mow the grass. <g>
>
> Doc
>
>
Link says restricted access.

[kenji]

In article <BF4CECD8.12DE4%ta02@sympatico.ca>, TA02 <ta02@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> On 9/13/05 8:38 PM, in article eMqdnTPfWqq77LreRVn-tg@adelphia.com, ""Doc""
> <nospam@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Well, the same tree that claimed the life of my left-front a-arm a few
> > weeks
> > back has struck again! This time it took out a wee bit more than the a-arm
> > however.
> >
> > The tree is located on my property/track on a slight bend at the end of a
> > long straightaway, so by the time you get to the bend you're at full speed.
> > If you don't hit the turn just right it's gonzo time.
> >
> > Here are the pics:
> > http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowIte
> > m&
> > g2_itemId=18121
> >
> > I didn't know you could hurt one of these things that badly! It actually
> > rendered it immovable under it's own power, which is a first among all the
> > Sav's I've run with. I managed to find all the parts that blew off in the
> > wreck save about 8 screws that were ripped out of the transmission case and
> > will ikely be found by my tractor the next time I mow the grass. <g>
> >
> > Doc
> >
> >
> Link says restricted access.

you have to sign up and be a member of savage-central.com

no fees

[Dre]

""Doc"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote in message
news:eMqdnTPfWqq77LreRVn-tg@adelphia.com...
> Howdy,
>
> Well, the same tree that claimed the life of my left-front a-arm a few
weeks
> back has struck again! This time it took out a wee bit more than the
a-arm
> however.
>
> The tree is located on my property/track on a slight bend at the end of a
> long straightaway, so by the time you get to the bend you're at full
speed.
> If you don't hit the turn just right it's gonzo time.
>
> Here are the pics:
>
http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2_itemId=18121
>
> I didn't know you could hurt one of these things that badly! It actually
> rendered it immovable under it's own power, which is a first among all the
> Sav's I've run with. I managed to find all the parts that blew off in the
> wreck save about 8 screws that were ripped out of the transmission case
and
> will ikely be found by my tractor the next time I mow the grass. <g>
>
> Doc
>
WHOA OUCH!!!

Thats some serious damage there!

So it looks like it hit the tree right in the middle then? sideways??

Crap, and my mates all keep saying how tough it looks etc and keep telling
me to kane the crap out of it cause it wont break. I keep telling em yeah I
drive it as hard as I feel comfortable wihtout resorting to doing stupid
crap which breaks things.

But hitting a tree like that, what can you do, I would have prolly hit it a
lot earlier :)

So whats the damage apart form the chassis plates? is the gearbox ok?

Worst smash I've ever had was with the T-Maxx, it hit a metal hook that was
dug deep into the ground. The top of the hook (a small loop of metal more
like it) stuck out of the ground by 50mm or so and I was driving over it all
day long. Then I took the same line a bit wonky, the suspension compressed
and the hook hit the front of the truck (which was travelling at full speed
as well) about where the shocks mount onto the a-arm. Busted top and bottom
a-arm, both shock shafts on that arm, bulkhead, shaft, skid plate, diff
housing. The truck didn't stop either, the hook went straight trough it all
and it just rolled down the hill right towards me and stopped right in front
of me :) perfect!

Cheers Dre

[Dre]

"TA02" <ta02@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:BF4CECD8.12DE4%ta02@sympatico.ca...
> On 9/13/05 8:38 PM, in article eMqdnTPfWqq77LreRVn-tg@adelphia.com,
""Doc""
> <nospam@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Well, the same tree that claimed the life of my left-front a-arm a few
weeks
> > back has struck again! This time it took out a wee bit more than the
a-arm
> > however.
> >
> > The tree is located on my property/track on a slight bend at the end of
a
> > long straightaway, so by the time you get to the bend you're at full
speed.
> > If you don't hit the turn just right it's gonzo time.
> >
> > Here are the pics:
> >
http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowItem&
> > g2_itemId=18121
> >
> > I didn't know you could hurt one of these things that badly! It
actually
> > rendered it immovable under it's own power, which is a first among all
the
> > Sav's I've run with. I managed to find all the parts that blew off in
the
> > wreck save about 8 screws that were ripped out of the transmission case
and
> > will ikely be found by my tractor the next time I mow the grass. <g>
> >
> > Doc
> >
> >
> Link says restricted access.

You need to be a member of Savage Central to be able to view them...

Cheers Dre

[\Doc\]

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"Dre" <blah@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:43277990$1@patrick.nettas.net...

> WHOA OUCH!!!
>
> Thats some serious damage there!
>
> So it looks like it hit the tree right in the middle then? sideways??

I hit it dead center with the front of the truck. The straightaway is about
200 feet long and 10 feet wide and leads into a holeshot, on a slight turn
which narrows to 4 feet. On one side of the 4-foot wide section at the end
of the turn is a line of 100 year old pine trees, the first of which is the
"tree of doom." The other side is actually my driveway and is "out of
bounds." So you're coming in at full tilt on a 10-foot wide section of
track and during the slight bend it narrows to 4 feet with death on the
left. I've been getting more and more ballsy with every tank and pushed it
too far this time.

> Crap, and my mates all keep saying how tough it looks etc and keep telling
> me to kane the crap out of it cause it wont break. I keep telling em yeah
> I
> drive it as hard as I feel comfortable wihtout resorting to doing stupid
> crap which breaks things.

I've beat it mercilessly and it's stood up fine. I think if I had hit it
anything but perfectly center it would have cartwheeled and snapped an a-arm
or something little. The truck stopped DEAD when it hit so all the force
was transferred to the chassis.

> But hitting a tree like that, what can you do, I would have prolly hit it
> a
> lot earlier :)
>
> So whats the damage apart form the chassis plates? is the gearbox ok?

Needed both chassis plates, new transmission case (gears were fine thank
god!), one of the shafts that runs inside the servo saver pillars (snapped
like a twig!), throttle and brake linkages and 8 screws that couldn't be
found + 4 that were really bent. Not too bad all things considered.
Ironically the entire front end was unscathed!

> Worst smash I've ever had was with the T-Maxx, it hit a metal hook that
> was
> dug deep into the ground. The top of the hook (a small loop of metal more
> like it) stuck out of the ground by 50mm or so and I was driving over it
> all
> day long. Then I took the same line a bit wonky, the suspension
> compressed
> and the hook hit the front of the truck (which was travelling at full
> speed
> as well) about where the shocks mount onto the a-arm. Busted top and
> bottom
> a-arm, both shock shafts on that arm, bulkhead, shaft, skid plate, diff
> housing. The truck didn't stop either, the hook went straight trough it
> all
> and it just rolled down the hill right towards me and stopped right in
> front
> of me :) perfect!

Man that sounds like a bad wreck. I had to go fetch mine as the linkages
were so badly bent that the throttle wouldn't even open to reverse out of it
and bring her back to the garage.

Bought a new truck while I was at the hobby shop getting parts for Mr.
Savage and man does it haul arse! Sportwerks Mayhem ST. Will run circles
around my Savage and pretty much anything else that comes near it. Tops out
just over 50 mph and handles like a sports car in the grass, gravel, dirt,
etc. Bought it as a backup to the Savage but it might be my primary truck
with the Savage as the backup if it holds up as well.

Will keep y'all posted on the hardiness of the Mayhem ST.

Doc

[kenji]

In article <TcqdnSw86uaQHbreRVn-jA@adelphia.com>,
"\"Doc\"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote:

> Will keep y'all posted on the hardiness of the Mayhem ST.

If it's anything like an 1/8th scale buggy don't expect to do to it what
you can do to a Savage.

My current mayhem 1/8th scale buggy can be punished but not anywhere
near as my Savage.

[Dre]

""Doc"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote in message
news:TcqdnSw86uaQHbreRVn-jA@adelphia.com...
> Inline..............
>
> "Dre" <blah@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:43277990$1@patrick.nettas.net...
>
> > WHOA OUCH!!!
> >
> > Thats some serious damage there!
> >
> > So it looks like it hit the tree right in the middle then? sideways??
>
> I hit it dead center with the front of the truck. The straightaway is
about
> 200 feet long and 10 feet wide and leads into a holeshot, on a slight turn
> which narrows to 4 feet. On one side of the 4-foot wide section at the
end
> of the turn is a line of 100 year old pine trees, the first of which is
the
> "tree of doom." The other side is actually my driveway and is "out of
> bounds." So you're coming in at full tilt on a 10-foot wide section of
> track and during the slight bend it narrows to 4 feet with death on the
> left. I've been getting more and more ballsy with every tank and pushed
it
> too far this time.

Oh crap! yeah that'll do it nicely! I bet it made a sickening crack sound
when it hit eh?

> > Crap, and my mates all keep saying how tough it looks etc and keep
telling
> > me to kane the crap out of it cause it wont break. I keep telling em
yeah
> > I
> > drive it as hard as I feel comfortable wihtout resorting to doing stupid
> > crap which breaks things.
>
> I've beat it mercilessly and it's stood up fine. I think if I had hit it
> anything but perfectly center it would have cartwheeled and snapped an
a-arm
> or something little. The truck stopped DEAD when it hit so all the force
> was transferred to the chassis.
>
> > But hitting a tree like that, what can you do, I would have prolly hit
it
> > a
> > lot earlier :)
> >
> > So whats the damage apart form the chassis plates? is the gearbox ok?
>
> Needed both chassis plates, new transmission case (gears were fine thank
> god!), one of the shafts that runs inside the servo saver pillars (snapped
> like a twig!), throttle and brake linkages and 8 screws that couldn't be
> found + 4 that were really bent. Not too bad all things considered.
> Ironically the entire front end was unscathed!

Nice! Thats pretty impressive considering how heavy the thing is and how
fast it was going.

I've downloaded the pics and I'm gonna have a good look tonight when I get a
chance..

> > Worst smash I've ever had was with the T-Maxx, it hit a metal hook that
> > was
> > dug deep into the ground. The top of the hook (a small loop of metal
more
> > like it) stuck out of the ground by 50mm or so and I was driving over it
> > all
> > day long. Then I took the same line a bit wonky, the suspension
> > compressed
> > and the hook hit the front of the truck (which was travelling at full
> > speed
> > as well) about where the shocks mount onto the a-arm. Busted top and
> > bottom
> > a-arm, both shock shafts on that arm, bulkhead, shaft, skid plate, diff
> > housing. The truck didn't stop either, the hook went straight trough it
> > all
> > and it just rolled down the hill right towards me and stopped right in
> > front
> > of me :) perfect!
>
> Man that sounds like a bad wreck. I had to go fetch mine as the linkages
> were so badly bent that the throttle wouldn't even open to reverse out of
it
> and bring her back to the garage.
>
> Bought a new truck while I was at the hobby shop getting parts for Mr.
> Savage and man does it haul arse! Sportwerks Mayhem ST. Will run circles
> around my Savage and pretty much anything else that comes near it. Tops
out
> just over 50 mph and handles like a sports car in the grass, gravel, dirt,
> etc. Bought it as a backup to the Savage but it might be my primary truck
> with the Savage as the backup if it holds up as well.
>
> Will keep y'all posted on the hardiness of the Mayhem ST.
>
> Doc
>
Sweet! I bet you love it. I have 2 Inferno's, an MP6 and a MP7.5 Kanai 2
and I love em to death. Only has one speed center diff, but like you say,
they run rings around a savage. Totally different type of car though, truck
versus buggy, power to weight in an 1/8th scale buggy is insane. I love how
you can throw them around a track and they just lap it up, point the fronts
where you want em and floor it :)

Oh and I've had my Inferno's (particularly the MP6, the jump monster) jump
over the roof of my mates John Deere 8250, we started with the bonnet, then
thought bugger it, and went for it. Made it out fine and we did aheap of
em :) (for those that dont know how high taht is, its approx 5-6 meters
high) So they are durable to all hell!

Cheers Dre

[\Doc\]

"kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
news:kenji-FF0FB4.21533213092005@localhost...
> In article <TcqdnSw86uaQHbreRVn-jA@adelphia.com>,
> "\"Doc\"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote:
>
>> Will keep y'all posted on the hardiness of the Mayhem ST.
>
> If it's anything like an 1/8th scale buggy don't expect to do to it what
> you can do to a Savage.
>
> My current mayhem 1/8th scale buggy can be punished but not anywhere
> near as my Savage.

Agreed. I don't plan to beat it like I do the Savage, but am interested to
see how well it hold up under more "kind" driving conditions. Any problems
with your Mayhem buggy thus far?

Doc

[Dre]

"kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
news:kenji-FF0FB4.21533213092005@localhost...
> In article <TcqdnSw86uaQHbreRVn-jA@adelphia.com>,
> "\"Doc\"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > Will keep y'all posted on the hardiness of the Mayhem ST.
>
> If it's anything like an 1/8th scale buggy don't expect to do to it what
> you can do to a Savage.

The big wheels the Savage has prolly has a lot to do with that. But put a
Savage on gravel against an 1/8th scale buggy and it gets left in the dust,
it simply doesn't have the acceleration...

> My current mayhem 1/8th scale buggy can be punished but not anywhere
> near as my Savage.

I've found the Kyosho's to be damn near bullet proof personally and I've
abused the hell out of em...

Cheers Dre

[DanTXD]

""Doc"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote in message
news:eMqdnTPfWqq77LreRVn-tg@adelphia.com...
> Howdy,
>
> Well, the same tree that claimed the life of my left-front a-arm a few
> weeks back has struck again! This time it took out a wee bit more than
> the a-arm however.
>
> The tree is located on my property/track on a slight bend at the end of a
> long straightaway, so by the time you get to the bend you're at full
> speed. If you don't hit the turn just right it's gonzo time.
>
> Here are the pics:
> http://www.savage-central.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2_itemId=18121
>
> I didn't know you could hurt one of these things that badly! It actually
> rendered it immovable under it's own power, which is a first among all the
> Sav's I've run with. I managed to find all the parts that blew off in the
> wreck save about 8 screws that were ripped out of the transmission case
> and will ikely be found by my tractor the next time I mow the grass. <g>
>
> Doc
>

Niiiiice. What you need now is the Hardcore Racing Titanium TVPs ;-)

Interested to know how tough they, wonder if mine would have survived the
incident... The only time I once hit a tree flat out, I was able to drive
away unscathed...

--
Dan

[kenji]

In article <3oqc3bF75uhkU1@individual.net>, "DanTXD" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

> Niiiiice. What you need now is the Hardcore Racing Titanium TVPs ;-)

Probably better to have the stock ones in a major crash like that. The
S-curve bending means the frame took the brunt of the energy transfer
not other more valuable parts.

[kenji]

In article <432798a5$1@patrick.nettas.net>, "Dre" <blah@somewhere.com>
wrote:

> I've found the Kyosho's to be damn near bullet proof personally and I've
> abused the hell out of em...

guys at our track break their Kyoshos all the time. Kyosho parts are
pretty darn expensive. That's one of the reasons I went with a mayhem.

[kenji]

In article <T4CdndghO_vDBbreRVn-gw@adelphia.com>,
"\"Doc\"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote:

> "kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
> news:kenji-FF0FB4.21533213092005@localhost...
> > In article <TcqdnSw86uaQHbreRVn-jA@adelphia.com>,
> > "\"Doc\"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Will keep y'all posted on the hardiness of the Mayhem ST.
> >
> > If it's anything like an 1/8th scale buggy don't expect to do to it what
> > you can do to a Savage.
> >
> > My current mayhem 1/8th scale buggy can be punished but not anywhere
> > near as my Savage.
>
> Agreed. I don't plan to beat it like I do the Savage, but am interested to
> see how well it hold up under more "kind" driving conditions. Any problems
> with your Mayhem buggy thus far?
>
> Doc

No problems if we don't hit anything. Although on tracks with big jumps
there had been some flexing of the chassis which caused how the clutch
bell lined up with the Spur to be off. Mayhem solved that by offering an
upgraded supportive set of engine mounts. No more flexing. the engine
mounts are very long now.

[DanTXD]

"kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
news:kenji-A64B46.08253114092005@localhost...
> In article <3oqc3bF75uhkU1@individual.net>, "DanTXD" <me@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Niiiiice. What you need now is the Hardcore Racing Titanium TVPs ;-)
>
> Probably better to have the stock ones in a major crash like that. The
> S-curve bending means the frame took the brunt of the energy transfer
> not other more valuable parts.
>

Hmm, true. Would be quite interesting to see how they stood up to it though
:)

<wanders off to find a nice tree and run up>

--
Dan

[Dre]

"kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
news:kenji-7560B7.08265114092005@localhost...
> In article <432798a5$1@patrick.nettas.net>, "Dre" <blah@somewhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I've found the Kyosho's to be damn near bullet proof personally and I've
> > abused the hell out of em...
>
> guys at our track break their Kyoshos all the time. Kyosho parts are
> pretty darn expensive. That's one of the reasons I went with a mayhem.

yeah people are allways going to have different experiences. I've found
that getting bits from ebay have saved me sooooo much...

Only thing I've ever broken on my Inferno's is a plastic spur (Mp6) and I
blew the bigend in a GS21 engine (but that was a bloody old engine and had
hardly any compression left :)

Cheers Dre

[\Doc\]

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"Dre" <blah@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> Oh crap! yeah that'll do it nicely! I bet it made a sickening crack
> sound
> when it hit eh?

Yeah it did.................kinda went WHAP!

> Sweet! I bet you love it. I have 2 Inferno's, an MP6 and a MP7.5 Kanai 2
> and I love em to death. Only has one speed center diff, but like you say,
> they run rings around a savage. Totally different type of car though,
> truck
> versus buggy, power to weight in an 1/8th scale buggy is insane. I love
> how
> you can throw them around a track and they just lap it up, point the
> fronts
> where you want em and floor it :)

I really do like it. I broke it in on Sunday and after about six tanks of
babying it I tuned it in an ran it for another 2 hours (about 1/2 gallon in
total). It was so much fun to drive I couldn't put it away!

The ST handles more like a buggy than a truck, but soaks up uneven terrain
better than a buggy, so you get the best of both worlds IMO.

Doc

[\Doc\]

"DanTXD" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:3oqc3bF75uhkU1@individual.net...

> Niiiiice. What you need now is the Hardcore Racing Titanium TVPs ;-)
>
> Interested to know how tough they, wonder if mine would have survived the
> incident... The only time I once hit a tree flat out, I was able to drive
> away unscathed...
>
> --
> Dan

I almost bought a set at the LHS when I was picking up my replacement parts
but the $89 price tag was a bit too steep, considering I bought a new truck
while I was there! I'm thinking that kenjii is correct in that if I had the
stiffer TVP's on there I would have destroyed the entire front end and
likely the radio box and enclosed gear as well. It kinda crumpled like a
crumple zone in a 1:1 car, almost like it was designed to do it.

Doc

[kenji]

In article <eq2dnac0GZddULXeRVn-qA@adelphia.com>,
"\"Doc\"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote:

> Inline.....................
>
> "Dre" <blah@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:43279847$1@patrick.nettas.net...
> > Oh crap! yeah that'll do it nicely! I bet it made a sickening crack
> > sound
> > when it hit eh?
>
> Yeah it did.................kinda went WHAP!
>
> > Sweet! I bet you love it. I have 2 Inferno's, an MP6 and a MP7.5 Kanai 2
> > and I love em to death. Only has one speed center diff, but like you say,
> > they run rings around a savage. Totally different type of car though,
> > truck
> > versus buggy, power to weight in an 1/8th scale buggy is insane. I love
> > how
> > you can throw them around a track and they just lap it up, point the
> > fronts
> > where you want em and floor it :)
>
> I really do like it. I broke it in on Sunday and after about six tanks of
> babying it I tuned it in an ran it for another 2 hours (about 1/2 gallon in
> total). It was so much fun to drive I couldn't put it away!
>
> The ST handles more like a buggy than a truck, but soaks up uneven terrain
> better than a buggy, so you get the best of both worlds IMO.
>
> Doc

It's a .21 on the chassis?

What's the US dollar street price?

[kenji]

In article <3dmdnUerPoWsU7XeRVn-sg@adelphia.com>,
"\"Doc\"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote:

> "DanTXD" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:3oqc3bF75uhkU1@individual.net...
>
> > Niiiiice. What you need now is the Hardcore Racing Titanium TVPs ;-)
> >
> > Interested to know how tough they, wonder if mine would have survived the
> > incident... The only time I once hit a tree flat out, I was able to drive
> > away unscathed...
> >
> > --
> > Dan
>
> I almost bought a set at the LHS when I was picking up my replacement parts
> but the $89 price tag was a bit too steep, considering I bought a new truck
> while I was there! I'm thinking that kenjii is correct in that if I had the
> stiffer TVP's on there I would have destroyed the entire front end and
> likely the radio box and enclosed gear as well. It kinda crumpled like a
> crumple zone in a 1:1 car, almost like it was designed to do it.
>
> Doc

Last week with our savage we hit a parking block which was about 50 feet
away at full steam. We did exactly what the OP did to his. I haven't
looked at it since so I don't know any other daamage yet. We did about
the same thing last year and what I did was the take the frames off
place them between two thick pieces of iron and drove over them with the
van. I then finished it using small blocks of wood and a ball peen
hammer.

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"kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
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> It's a .21 on the chassis?

..26 (I think it's a rebadged Mach 26 with a different carb), 2.75 HP and
33,000 RPM.

> What's the US dollar street price?

$499, but I got it for $429.

Doc

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"kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
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> Last week with our savage we hit a parking block which was about 50 feet
> away at full steam. We did exactly what the OP did to his. I haven't
> looked at it since so I don't know any other daamage yet. We did about
> the same thing last year and what I did was the take the frames off
> place them between two thick pieces of iron and drove over them with the
> van. I then finished it using small blocks of wood and a ball peen
> hammer.

I had thought about doing that myself, but the LHS had a new (out of box)
set for $20 and the small price was better than spending an hour or so
fixing up the wrecked ones. The old ones were pretty chewed up from rocks,
gravel, etc. towards the back anyhow. Also, with aluminum, it's weaker
after it's been "straightened" and I didn't want to risk more serious damage
the next time I whack something.

Doc

[kenji]

In article <UoadnTslWsSZRrXeRVn-uQ@adelphia.com>,
"\"Doc\"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote:

> "kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
> news:kenji-A1222B.20312314092005@localhost...
>
> > Last week with our savage we hit a parking block which was about 50 feet
> > away at full steam. We did exactly what the OP did to his. I haven't
> > looked at it since so I don't know any other daamage yet. We did about
> > the same thing last year and what I did was the take the frames off
> > place them between two thick pieces of iron and drove over them with the
> > van. I then finished it using small blocks of wood and a ball peen
> > hammer.
>
> I had thought about doing that myself, but the LHS had a new (out of box)
> set for $20 and the small price was better than spending an hour or so
> fixing up the wrecked ones. The old ones were pretty chewed up from rocks,
> gravel, etc. towards the back anyhow. Also, with aluminum, it's weaker
> after it's been "straightened" and I didn't want to risk more serious damage
> the next time I whack something.
>
> Doc

If I found them for 20 bucks I'd go that route too.

[Dre]

"kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
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> In article <UoadnTslWsSZRrXeRVn-uQ@adelphia.com>,
> "\"Doc\"" <nospam@noway.com> wrote:
>
> > "kenji" <kenji@ripco.com> wrote in message
> > news:kenji-A1222B.20312314092005@localhost...
> >
> > > Last week with our savage we hit a parking block which was about 50
feet
> > > away at full steam. We did exactly what the OP did to his. I haven't
> > > looked at it since so I don't know any other daamage yet. We did about
> > > the same thing last year and what I did was the take the frames off
> > > place them between two thick pieces of iron and drove over them with
the
> > > van. I then finished it using small blocks of wood and a ball peen
> > > hammer.
> >
> > I had thought about doing that myself, but the LHS had a new (out of
box)
> > set for $20 and the small price was better than spending an hour or so
> > fixing up the wrecked ones. The old ones were pretty chewed up from
rocks,
> > gravel, etc. towards the back anyhow. Also, with aluminum, it's weaker
> > after it's been "straightened" and I didn't want to risk more serious
damage
> > the next time I whack something.
> >
> > Doc
>
> If I found them for 20 bucks I'd go that route too.

Check ebay, they are regularly on there and I got a pair including radio box
and engine plate for $25AUS...

Cheers Dre