Hook up

[tel]

Hi All

I am trying desperately to help my son who is just starting a new business
manufacturing retractable grill's in the UK.
He is unable to "hook up" his Bridgeport CNC series 1, boss 5 via
PC...Rs232.
He is a highly trained industrial electrical/mechanical engineer (not me
tho').
We are unable to send or receive using RS232.
My son has checked out the cable from CNC to PC & appear ok, working to a
manual of this machine.He did change the original round sockets to 25 pin on
the machine.
I am many miles away from his factory so some of the questions asked may
have to be emailed/telephoned to my son (Steve from now on), unless you may
wish to have my son's Steves email?
The machine works fine otherwise, but steve wishes to save TIME and LABOUR
by some automation.
Money is tight at present so major upgrade is not an option unfortunately.
We also wish to know how to create a very small programme to enable transfer
to PC initially. So far the PC software states "unable to make link".
Would gratefully appreciate any assistance.
Regards
Terry

[John Stevenson]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:51:30 +0000 (UTC), "tel"
<terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi All
>
>I am trying desperately to help my son who is just starting a new business
>manufacturing retractable grill's in the UK.
>He is unable to "hook up" his Bridgeport CNC series 1, boss 5 via
>PC...Rs232.
>He is a highly trained industrial electrical/mechanical engineer (not me
>tho').
>We are unable to send or receive using RS232.
>My son has checked out the cable from CNC to PC & appear ok, working to a
>manual of this machine.He did change the original round sockets to 25 pin on
>the machine.
>I am many miles away from his factory so some of the questions asked may
>have to be emailed/telephoned to my son (Steve from now on), unless you may
>wish to have my son's Steves email?
>The machine works fine otherwise, but steve wishes to save TIME and LABOUR
>by some automation.
>Money is tight at present so major upgrade is not an option unfortunately.
>We also wish to know how to create a very small programme to enable transfer
>to PC initially. So far the PC software states "unable to make link".
>Would gratefully appreciate any assistance.
>Regards
>Terry
>
Terry,

Have a look at a free program called NCnet Lite from
http://www.cadem.com/ncnet/freednc.htm

This gives all the cable connections and links to many machines.
the Boss5 is amongst these.
--
Regards,

John Stevenson
Nottingham, England.

Visit the new Model Engineering adverts page at:-
http://www.homeworkshop.org.uk/

[tel]

John
Thank you kindly....will pass all, on to my son.

Regards
Terry
"John Stevenson" <john@stevenson-engineers.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:51:30 +0000 (UTC), "tel"
> <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi All
> >
> >I am trying desperately to help my son who is just starting a new
business
> >manufacturing retractable grill's in the UK.
> >He is unable to "hook up" his Bridgeport CNC series 1, boss 5 via
> >PC...Rs232.
> >He is a highly trained industrial electrical/mechanical engineer (not me
> >tho').
> >We are unable to send or receive using RS232.
> >My son has checked out the cable from CNC to PC & appear ok, working to a
> >manual of this machine.He did change the original round sockets to 25 pin
on
> >the machine.
> >I am many miles away from his factory so some of the questions asked may
> >have to be emailed/telephoned to my son (Steve from now on), unless you
may
> >wish to have my son's Steves email?
> >The machine works fine otherwise, but steve wishes to save TIME and
LABOUR
> >by some automation.
> >Money is tight at present so major upgrade is not an option
unfortunately.
> >We also wish to know how to create a very small programme to enable
transfer
> >to PC initially. So far the PC software states "unable to make link".
> >Would gratefully appreciate any assistance.
> >Regards
> >Terry
> >
> Terry,
>
> Have a look at a free program called NCnet Lite from
> http://www.cadem.com/ncnet/freednc.htm
>
> This gives all the cable connections and links to many machines.
> the Boss5 is amongst these.
> --
> Regards,
>
> John Stevenson
> Nottingham, England.
>
> Visit the new Model Engineering adverts page at:-
> http://www.homeworkshop.org.uk/

[Steve]

"tel" <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All
>
> I am trying desperately to help my son who is just starting a new business
> manufacturing retractable grill's in the UK.
> He is unable to "hook up" his Bridgeport CNC series 1, boss 5 via
> PC...Rs232.
> He is a highly trained industrial electrical/mechanical engineer (not me
> tho').
> We are unable to send or receive using RS232.
> My son has checked out the cable from CNC to PC & appear ok, working to a
> manual of this machine.He did change the original round sockets to 25 pin
> on
> the machine.
> I am many miles away from his factory so some of the questions asked may
> have to be emailed/telephoned to my son (Steve from now on), unless you
> may
> wish to have my son's Steves email?
> The machine works fine otherwise, but steve wishes to save TIME and LABOUR
> by some automation.
> Money is tight at present so major upgrade is not an option unfortunately.
> We also wish to know how to create a very small programme to enable
> transfer
> to PC initially. So far the PC software states "unable to make link".
> Would gratefully appreciate any assistance.
> Regards
> Terry
>
>
Is it the original cable as supplied for the purpose? RS232 can be a
nightmare to get sorted.

Steve

[tel]

Thanks Steve...I have passed the post on to him, which he will reply
A.S.A.P.
All I know is that he has "ringed out" the cable OK.

Where can he obtain this RS232 cable from to hook up.?

Here is my son's email address if convenient:
steve@dsgl.co.uk

Terry

"Steve" <steve.withnell@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "tel" <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d8bkai$qii$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > Hi All
> >
> > I am trying desperately to help my son who is just starting a new
business
> > manufacturing retractable grill's in the UK.
> > He is unable to "hook up" his Bridgeport CNC series 1, boss 5 via
> > PC...Rs232.
> > He is a highly trained industrial electrical/mechanical engineer (not me
> > tho').
> > We are unable to send or receive using RS232.
> > My son has checked out the cable from CNC to PC & appear ok, working to
a
> > manual of this machine.He did change the original round sockets to 25
pin
> > on
> > the machine.
> > I am many miles away from his factory so some of the questions asked may
> > have to be emailed/telephoned to my son (Steve from now on), unless you
> > may
> > wish to have my son's Steves email?
> > The machine works fine otherwise, but steve wishes to save TIME and
LABOUR
> > by some automation.
> > Money is tight at present so major upgrade is not an option
unfortunately.
> > We also wish to know how to create a very small programme to enable
> > transfer
> > to PC initially. So far the PC software states "unable to make link".
> > Would gratefully appreciate any assistance.
> > Regards
> > Terry
> >
> >
> Is it the original cable as supplied for the purpose? RS232 can be a
> nightmare to get sorted.
>
> Steve
>
>

[Adrian Godwin]

tel <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here is my son's email address if convenient:
> steve@dsgl.co.uk
>
>> >
>> > I am trying desperately to help my son who is just starting a new
> business
>> > manufacturing retractable grill's in the UK.
>> > He is unable to "hook up" his Bridgeport CNC series 1, boss 5 via
>> > PC...Rs232.
>> > He is a highly trained industrial electrical/mechanical engineer (not me
>> > tho').
>> > We are unable to send or receive using RS232.
>> > My son has checked out the cable from CNC to PC & appear ok, working to
> a
>> > manual of this machine.He did change the original round sockets to 25
> pin

I find a protocol analyser incredibly useful for this sort of debug.
It sits on the RS232 wiring and you can watch what's being sent, what
the control ilnes are doing and patch things up if necessary.

It's possible to do this with a PC having two serial ports and some
suitable software, but a dedicated instrument is far easier. Assuming
he's where his email address implies (Stewartby), that would be
very easy as I'm only a few miles east. Unfortunately I'm too busy
to show him how to use it until next week, but if he's already
familiar with them (it's an HP4951C) we could arrange a loan
earlier.

-adrian

[tel]

Adrian

I welcome your help......as I mentioned earlier, Steve is coping with the
miller at present order levels, but he anticipates work load to increase in
the not too distant furure when "auto" milling could be a boom, so YES to
contact him at your convenience as he is based at Stewartby.
Regards
Terry
"Adrian Godwin" <adrian.110504@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> tel <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Here is my son's email address if convenient:
> > steve@dsgl.co.uk
> >
> >> >
> >> > I am trying desperately to help my son who is just starting a new
> > business
> >> > manufacturing retractable grill's in the UK.
> >> > He is unable to "hook up" his Bridgeport CNC series 1, boss 5 via
> >> > PC...Rs232.
> >> > He is a highly trained industrial electrical/mechanical engineer (not
me
> >> > tho').
> >> > We are unable to send or receive using RS232.
> >> > My son has checked out the cable from CNC to PC & appear ok, working
to
> > a
> >> > manual of this machine.He did change the original round sockets to 25
> > pin
>
> I find a protocol analyser incredibly useful for this sort of debug.
> It sits on the RS232 wiring and you can watch what's being sent, what
> the control ilnes are doing and patch things up if necessary.
>
> It's possible to do this with a PC having two serial ports and some
> suitable software, but a dedicated instrument is far easier. Assuming
> he's where his email address implies (Stewartby), that would be
> very easy as I'm only a few miles east. Unfortunately I'm too busy
> to show him how to use it until next week, but if he's already
> familiar with them (it's an HP4951C) we could arrange a loan
> earlier.
>
> -adrian
>