what's a good simulator program to use

[slickmustang]

I just went through my first dragonfly and have another one ordered and after looking for a sim program I can't find one that has the double blades and none on the back.I did try to use another one but couldn't get it to work with the transmitter but it did work with the key board witch is useless.Does anyone know where I can download one and is there any info on getting it to work with the tran's? it came with the cable to run from the tran's to the PC and I tryed everything on the program to get it to work with no luck.it seems like I got a good deal at $110 for it but that's still to much if it crash's as much as my first one.thanks slickmustang

[Nigel Heather]

There is a free one called FMS which I suspect is what came free with your
dragonfly.

It can be downloaded from http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html

I suspect the reason you can't get it to work is that the cable is not
compatible with the version of windows that you are running.

FMS comes with instructions to build your own cable very cheaply - it's
usually these types of cable that ship with the dragonfly (et al). These
interfaces use either the parallel or serial port directly in a non-standard
way. This is fine for Windows 98 and ME, but will not work for NT, 2000 or
XP. This is because the NT-based operating systems restrict the use of the
serial and parallel ports for security reasons and will not permit what it
thinks as non-standard use.

If you use an NT-based OS (e.g. XP) you need an intelligent interface.
These have some electronics inside which makes the OS think the transmitter
is a standard device. With one of these the simulator will work fine. I've
used this company before http://www.welwyn.demon.co.uk/fms_lead/fms_lead.htm
but you may be able to find a more convenient US supplier - just do a search
for FMS and PIC.

Onto the simulator itself.

It is well present and looks very good considering its free. The physics
engine is lightweight so the helis are very easy to fly, but it will teach
you stick co-ordination etc.

I'm not aware of any sim that models contra-rotating hubs - there may be a
few skins you could use but I suspect underneath the pictures it's just a
standard single rotor plus tail rotor.

Cheers,

Nigel


"slickmustang" <slickmustang.1q364b@rcgroups.com> wrote in message
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>
> I just went through my first dragonfly and have another one ordered and
> after looking for a sim program I can't find one that has the double
> blades and none on the back.I did try to use another one but couldn't
> get it to work with the transmitter but it did work with the key board
> witch is useless.Does anyone know where I can download one and is there
> any info on getting it to work with the tran's? it came with the cable
> to run from the tran's to the PC and I tryed everything on the program
> to get it to work with no luck.it seems like I got a good deal at $110
> for it but that's still to much if it crash's as much as my first
> one.thanks slickmustang
>
>
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[Funfly3]

not strictly true FMS will work if you download the program ppjoy and it
will then work under XP
"Nigel Heather" <No-Spam@No-Spam.com> wrote in message
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> There is a free one called FMS which I suspect is what came free with your
> dragonfly.
>
> It can be downloaded from
> http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html
>
> I suspect the reason you can't get it to work is that the cable is not
> compatible with the version of windows that you are running.
>
> FMS comes with instructions to build your own cable very cheaply - it's
> usually these types of cable that ship with the dragonfly (et al). These
> interfaces use either the parallel or serial port directly in a
> non-standard way. This is fine for Windows 98 and ME, but will not work
> for NT, 2000 or XP. This is because the NT-based operating systems
> restrict the use of the serial and parallel ports for security reasons and
> will not permit what it thinks as non-standard use.
>
> If you use an NT-based OS (e.g. XP) you need an intelligent interface.
> These have some electronics inside which makes the OS think the
> transmitter is a standard device. With one of these the simulator will
> work fine. I've used this company before
> http://www.welwyn.demon.co.uk/fms_lead/fms_lead.htm but you may be able to
> find a more convenient US supplier - just do a search for FMS and PIC.
>
> Onto the simulator itself.
>
> It is well present and looks very good considering its free. The physics
> engine is lightweight so the helis are very easy to fly, but it will teach
> you stick co-ordination etc.
>
> I'm not aware of any sim that models contra-rotating hubs - there may be a
> few skins you could use but I suspect underneath the pictures it's just a
> standard single rotor plus tail rotor.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nigel
>
>
> "slickmustang" <slickmustang.1q364b@rcgroups.com> wrote in message
> news:slickmustang.1q364b@rcgroups.com...
>>
>> I just went through my first dragonfly and have another one ordered and
>> after looking for a sim program I can't find one that has the double
>> blades and none on the back.I did try to use another one but couldn't
>> get it to work with the transmitter but it did work with the key board
>> witch is useless.Does anyone know where I can download one and is there
>> any info on getting it to work with the tran's? it came with the cable
>> to run from the tran's to the PC and I tryed everything on the program
>> to get it to work with no luck.it seems like I got a good deal at $110
>> for it but that's still to much if it crash's as much as my first
>> one.thanks slickmustang
>>
>>
>> --
>> slickmustang
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> slickmustang's Profile:
>> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=65059
>> View this thread:
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>>
>
>

[A.T.]

Free = FMS with Hitec interface cable
http://www.acehobby.co.nz/ossb2/root/OSSBEC1/showitem.asp?PID=52310
Buy = Reflex =
http://www.reflex-sim.de/

For a good total overview refer to = Alan's Hobby, Model & RC Web Links
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/

"Buddy Boxes. Servo Leads.Simulators.Interface"
TX 2 TX ***
Buddy Box System Operation - RCFU
Hitec USB Flight Sim Interface (for Hitec Futaba JR Transmitters) + FMS ***
Simulators - RC Aircraft and Sailing etc

Aerochopper Review
Aerofly & Easyfly = IPACS
ClearView RC Helicopter Simulator
CSM
Dave Brown RCFS 2001
Fly RC Free simulator = Ron's Software Page
FMS Homepage - Freeware
FMS Links
FMS Downloads, arguably the best personal effort ***
FMS - Links to many downloads for FMS and scenery design etc
FMS Serial Interface for GWS
Offshore Sailing - Free simulator
Pre-Flight (Free Download - buy interface kit)
RCFSim v6.01 (2004) - Freeware
RealFlight Home Page
Reality Craft - RC Plane Master
Reflex Flugsimulator
Richard Pearse, Aviator - [download and fly the plane that flew before the
Wright Brothers.]
RC New Zealand - Free skins for realflight
RC-Sim Downloads for Aerofly, FMS, Reflex, RFG 2, etc ***
Sail simulator.com - Free download
Slope Soaring Simulator - Free download
Tru-Flite Technology
Vertigo flight simulator
YSFlight - Freeware

Simulator controllers

Build an R/C Stick Joystick - The Flying Penguin
Futaba Controller - TX Conversion - RCFU
TX PC Interface - kitset - Ken Hewitt
FMS - Free Flying Model Simulator - Interface DIY instructions
FMS Free Flight Simulator - Make your own Interface
FMS Serial Interface - D.I.Y for GWS

regards
Alan T.
Alan's Hobby, Model & RC Web Links
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
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"slickmustang" <slickmustang.1q364b@rcgroups.com> wrote in message
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>
> I just went through my first dragonfly and have another one ordered and
> after looking for a sim program I can't find one that has the double
> blades and none on the back.I did try to use another one but couldn't
> get it to work with the transmitter but it did work with the key board
> witch is useless.Does anyone know where I can download one and is there
> any info on getting it to work with the tran's? it came with the cable
> to run from the tran's to the PC and I tryed everything on the program
> to get it to work with no luck.it seems like I got a good deal at $110
> for it but that's still to much if it crash's as much as my first
> one.thanks slickmustang
>
>
> --
> slickmustang
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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[libertycat]

Hello everybody,
I personally really have this problem too.
I recently bought a Dragonfly model #40. and it seems that the 6channel
TX cannot work for now on simulators... it is like not recognized.. .
and nothing to do !!
6ch TX of other Dragonfly 22 or else were working, but last ones, even
if transmitter seems to be the same, are not working for now. and no
any solution about this, not any help from Walkera or even no any tips
working threw any forum... for now.
If somebody could help ! would be really great instead of us spending
money in spare parts !

[Funfly3]

"libertycat" <steph108498375@icqmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everybody,
> I personally really have this problem too.
> I recently bought a Dragonfly model #40. and it seems that the 6channel
> TX cannot work for now on simulators... it is like not recognized.. .
> and nothing to do !!
> 6ch TX of other Dragonfly 22 or else were working, but last ones, even
> if transmitter seems to be the same, are not working for now. and no
> any solution about this, not any help from Walkera or even no any tips
> working threw any forum... for now.
> If somebody could help ! would be really great instead of us spending
> money in spare parts !
my 6 channel works fine??

[P B]

Go for Realflight G3 simulator
"libertycat" <steph108498375@icqmail.com> wrote in message
news:1118218199.107421.262730@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello everybody,
> I personally really have this problem too.
> I recently bought a Dragonfly model #40. and it seems that the 6channel
> TX cannot work for now on simulators... it is like not recognized.. .
> and nothing to do !!
> 6ch TX of other Dragonfly 22 or else were working, but last ones, even
> if transmitter seems to be the same, are not working for now. and no
> any solution about this, not any help from Walkera or even no any tips
> working threw any forum... for now.
> If somebody could help ! would be really great instead of us spending
> money in spare parts !
>

[ninety]

slickmustang wrote:
> I just went through my first dragonfly and have another one ordered and
> after looking for a sim program I can't find one that has the double
> ....

I got a bit of a simulator going using the following:

1 x Xbox controller - about 25ukp

1 x Xbox-to-USB adapter lead - about 10ukp
http://www.whitedog.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=295

1 x free XBCD xbox controller driver - Free -
http://www.redcl0ud.com/xbcd.html

1 x FMS (Flying Model Simulator) - Free
http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html

Colin

[Guest]

Hi Libertycat.
It is the second time I read you are using your walkera transmitter to
use the FMS simulator... I cannot make it to work yet... I have used
the ppjoy without success, the picjoy does not work because I am using
the cable incluided in the heli... Everybody recommends a pic cable,
but they are made for the JR, Hitec, Futaba, multiplex... transmitters,
no the walkera one...
Can you help me please?
Thank You.
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You can find a new link in downloads (Win XP compatible) on following
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