Beginners Chat

[marshallcowboy]

Hi there to all the new guys, Im Jarrod aka Marshallcowboy. On Sunday nights I host a Beginners Chat from 7 to 9 PM Central time. There are several of us that enjoy helping the new guys in this hobby, be it glow or electric. So come join us and have your questions ready, and we will do our best to help ya enjoy this great hobby and have a great learning experince.
If you have a question thats needs an answer pretty quickly drop me a PM and I'll give ya an answer as soon as I can. Need it quicker then that then pop in the chat room, most any one there can help ya pretty quickly. So lets make use of the chat room RCG put up and have a great time while learning the basics of flying.
Jarrod aka Marshallcowboy

PS: Mr Moderator can you make this a sticky so the new guys can see when we hold the Beginners Chat. Thanks

[agentman]

Hello Marshllcowboy, I am new to the hobby and I have recently purchased an e-flight Cessna which I have not flown yet. My question is, I have spent about a month on a G2 flight simulator and I am thinking about using the Cessna as a trainer and purchasing a larger plane. I feel comfortable fying on the simulator but I don't want to buy the wrong plane for simply this reason. I plan on trying to fly the Cessna in a week or so and I would like to purchase something other than a trainer, what would be your advise on this matter? Thank you, Greg

[jkid82592]

i am fairly new to rc and i was just wondering for a beginning flyer how easy is it to cover a plane? also is it easy to put together a wood kit?

[indoruwet]

Nothing is easy, since it is relative. For some people, covering comes easy, for others it is a bear. Personally, I still get wrinkles here and there. It takes time and patience and there are videos that show you how to do it. Have to look for the links.

Is it easy to put together a wood kit ? Same answer here. Maybe it is worth to buy an ARF at a reasonable price. Fly it and then when the time comes you have to fix it. Best way to learn how those things are put together. Peruse some of the build thread and look at the pics.

[crazy plane]

greg, i don't think you will have much of a problem with it but i don't have any experience in that plane. just don't go with a low wing plane at first. get a lot of flight time first on the cessna. you could get somebody to help you in flying this but if you don't, make sure you don't over-control it. you probably already flew it though as i haven't been on this site long

[madeinuk]

I'm new to the hobby (awaiing delivery of my PT40 kit ) and would like to suggest maybe a thread could be started that just contains handy tips for construction.

I just saw a question about applying adhesive.as an example...maybe all the answers to contruction questions could end up in one place..

Just a thought from a newbie.. ( I really enjoy all the content ..thanks everyone )

[Benzo]

Heya All. Another newbie. Cool site.

am also getting a pt40. seems like a good place to start. maybe after 100 hours on my sim... I've got high hopes :D

I look forward to seein you all around

[crazy plane]

i know somebody that constructed a pt60 which is the same thing just bigger. pm mighty duckling. he built this kit. i flew this airplane and it flys great. its landings are awsome but has a long ground roll.

[Royster]

Hi
Just got our first glow plane, a second hand Air Power Aviation - Angel Eyes 45.

Did a Google search and found nothing on the plane (its a high wing trainer same as a Boomerang 40), but that s OK as we bought it for a song with an O.S. 46AX motor for $80aus. We plan on putting the motor into another plane down the track.
My son and I have been flying electric for 3 months but have been getting lessons on glow planes at a club we hope to join soon. We liked the idea of being able to fly both fuel and electric.

My question is with this plane is where does the battery for the servos and the receiver go? :confused:

I mounted all the servos in OK but I am not quite sure where the other stuff goes. I know there is a fuel tank around so I guess a battery next to it it not a good idea. I think.

Any noob at fuel.

[jimgee1]

Royster, THe battery goes into the fuselage and is used to help balance the plane at the suggested balance point. If you're tail heavy slide it a little forward, etc. Just make sure it's packed in foam and won't shift during flight.

[jimgee1]

Royster, The tank goes behind the firewall as close to the engine as you can get it. Also, pad the tank to keep the fuel from foaming due to vibration.. Foamy fuel will cause your engine to run lean and over heat..

[Royster]

Ahh, is that why the foam ;) I thought it was more for crash protection.

Thanks for the heads up! :)

[capt hook]

Hello I am new to this hobbie and have no clue on it. I like to watch these RC planes fly been watching for a long time. and figure it's time to get in the air with out hitting the ground to hard . hopefully ..lol..any and all the help I can get would be great ..thank you .....Capt Hook...........(Ron)

[grahamruse]

Good day, I recently was given two older planes (maybe10-15 yrs old) I've pulled the engines and cleaned them up. Have a look at the pictures below and let me know if the planes themselves should be scrap or are they safe to fly. Any good suggestions for a good starter remote kit?
Thanks

[inspired]

if anyone has the wing plans to midwests aero star
or if anyone knows where i could find them please e-mail them to me
reid_young@sbcglobal.net

[etad67]

I'm new to glow flying and was trying to cycle my rx nicds the other night and the cycler stops discharging at round 4.0V. Why is this and do I need to find a way to discharge them to 0V and if so, how?

[marshallcowboy]

I'm new to glow flying and was trying to cycle my rx nicds the other night and the cycler stops discharging at round 4.0V. Why is this and do I need to find a way to discharge them to 0V and if so, how?
You dont want to take you batteries to 0 volts. Once the battery gets below 1.1 volts it becomes worthless. Once the discharger got it to 4 volts it should have began charging it back up. If the cycler your using does it.

[dom ambrosino]

marshallcowboy,
i just finished reading alot of the forum. just want to say thanks in advance for whatever helpful advice you can give me. new with about two weeks on the 3.5 and flying a nexstar on the sim, and i own a cx2 heli (but thats for another day),i went to an airfield today and flew a nexstar on one flight and loved it (until my trainer who blames himself, put it into the dirt). can i ask you do you know much about a rtf alpha 60 which from what i'm told is a good trainer to get. like i said i have read alot of the forum but do not see much on the hanger 9 alpha series.

the dom

[simhatus]

Hi

I don't see why the two planes shouldn't fly, obviously can't see everythiing from the pics, just get somone experienced to check them over first and trim them out and instruct you.


Simon

[angler-hi]

Hi everyone. I'm new to the hobby and actually own 3 warbirds. I have A CMP P-51 Mustang 60 nitro, CMP F4U Corsair 50 nitro and a CMP P-47 Thunderbolt. I know that warbirds are for experienced pilots. This is why I have yet to build one. I"m currently training on a Multiplex Magister and my flight sim. I would love to start building my P-51 so I'll have her ready by the time I get to that level. Is there a recommended nitro trainer that you would suggest. All advice is welcomed. I did as much research as I could from Iraq...where I was when I purchased these warbirds from Nito Models.

I think I'm in over my head, and I don't know where to start (building and finding a trainer). Please help.

Mike

[Royster]

Hi everyone. I'm new to the hobby and actually own 3 warbirds. I have A CMP P-51 Mustang 60 nitro, CMP F4U Corsair 50 nitro and a CMP P-47 Thunderbolt. I know that warbirds are for experienced pilots. This is why I have yet to build one. I"m currently training on a Multiplex Magister and my flight sim. I would love to start building my P-51 so I'll have her ready by the time I get to that level. Is there a recommended nitro trainer that you would suggest. All advice is welcomed. I did as much research as I could from Iraq...where I was when I purchased these warbirds from Nito Models.

I think I'm in over my head, and I don't know where to start (building and finding a trainer). Please help.

Mike

Hey Mike

Welcome to the hobby!!

My son and I have been flying for 1 year now and love it.

Best advice is to buy RealFlight G4 or FS-One flight sims. They will help you out more than anything else.Also a good instructor is important as well.
You can learn on your own but make sure your credit card is topped up :D

Yes leave those warbirds in the hanger till you have mastered the basics in RC flight and get a test pilot with many years of flying to maiden them for you.

It also helps to study a bit on what makes a plane fly and the forces involved.

Take your time and practice often and have fun!! ;)

[angler-hi]

Thanks Royster. I just ordered the G3.5. I'm waiting on it to get here. I practice on my E-sky FMS sim right now until the other one arrives. My biggest fear is building one of these planes and not having the required skill to overcome any problems or mishaps. Thanks for the warm welcome.

Mike

[Royster]

Thanks Royster. I just ordered the G3.5. I'm waiting on it to get here. I practice on my E-sky FMS sim right now until the other one arrives. My biggest fear is building one of these planes and not having the required skill to overcome any problems or mishaps. Thanks for the warm welcome.

Mike

Your welcome ;)

G3.5 is great!
Had for it for a few months and upgraded to G4. Screen and feel wise its the same. I am using G4 now to practice for an up coming IMAC comp this month (our first) so its real valuable since the weather is bad at the moment.

Try flying rectangular circuits without losing altitude and direction. Not as easy as people think.
Also practice take off and landings. Getting them up there is sometimes the easy part, bringing them back home in one piece is the tricky part (especially with warbirds)

We own a H9 Spitfire and shes easy to fly but take offs and especially landings can increase the heart rate a bit, but we are getting better a it. Its just an acquired skill. Once you learn to fly your warbirds I am sure you'll say their a piece of cake to fly.

:)

[angler-hi]

Hey thanks Royster. You're "good people". I think I may try the Alpha .40 trainer to learn on. I'm getting pretty good with my electrics. I won't lie and tell you I'm not afraid to fly nitro. I don't know for sure, but I have a pretty good idea that flying nitro isn't quite the same as flying electric. Thanks for the tip, and good luck in your competition. Let me know how you do.

Mike

[Royster]

Hey Mike

Cheers.

Dont let nitro put you off. We flew electrics for months and went to nitro and gas when we joined an aero club.
Just tell yourself your flying an electric in a park and you'll soon see there was nothing to be concerned about. Just be careful as bigger planes chew up a lotta sky!
They do fly different but if someone can fly twitchy little electrics then you can fly a nitro or gas plane :D Again, a learning curve.

;)

[angler-hi]

I appreciate everything Royster...especially the confidence booster. I may have a question or two from time to time, if you don't mind? Well good luck and good winds Royster.

Mike

[roydog]

sorry wrong therad

[roydog]

ok im here just dont know if im in thr rite spot for the weekly chat if not can anyone tell me how to get there :o

[biplanelova]

hey all i'v had 4 electric planes and i was looking for the best type of petrol trainer to start with for price and usability. thx allot please email me at f6rspectyfoon@hotmail.com :D

[coolyokeluke]

I posted this on a cub thread on the giant scale forum and got no reply so I thought I'd pick the brains on this forum. Cut and past from my last post:


Hello.

I'm new to the RC hobby. I really am into the scale side of things. I've been practicing at home using my Great Planes "real flight" simulator. I had my first R/C flight on Saturday using a buddy box at the local flying field. I got a lot of complements from my instructor for being a new person (I attribute that to the practice on the sim, not any outstanding skill) and he thought I'd be solo ready next weekend.

So here's my question; would I be wrong to do a scale Cub as my first model? I read the Sig propaganda on their website "Forgiving flight characteristics, light wing loading, and hands-off stability..."

It seems there is a bit of a bias towards ARFs at the local field so I don't necessarily think I'm getting objective advice. I enjoy the build process and scale and would like to invest in a model I'm really interested in rather than getting a check-in-the-box trainer. On the other hand I don't want to get into something that I'm going to turn into balsa dust immediately either.

I bought a six channel radio that came with a buddy box and two four servo receiver sets (along with a .46 engine) at a local swap meet three weeks ago.

I'd appreciate any relevant advice. Thanks in advance.

[dwagz]

Hey everyone, I'm brand spankin new. I just got the hangar 9 f22 rtf, (yes despite all the bad reviews in some forums). I couldn't pass it up, $200 shipped on ebay. anyway, I'm switching to the 2 blade prop and changing to a larger motor. This has made many owners like the plane, and they say it's working out great. anyway it came with fs one solo. my controls are reversed on the sim, but not the plane when i check it. i can't switch it on the sim. I've been crashing big time on the sim and need some advice.

[guitarboymt]

Hello Friends,

I start building a tug boat (Smit Netherland) but this is made of a strange scale 1:28m or 7/16 is to 1 foot. Please can any one send the scale printed or from were I can buy the scale ruler. Your Help is important. Thanks.

Regards.

[deerfreak]

I have a Fuel tank 320 cc is this 10 ounce tank?

[Murocflyer]

I have a Fuel tank 320 cc is this 10 ounce tank?

320 cc is 10.82 ounces.

http://www.qosina.com/measure/CapacityPopUp.asp

Frank

[mailman257]

How do you remove the fuel from the plane, thats left over after your done flying for the day? Next question. How do you shut down a running nitro plane? TY

[rodneygt]

How do you remove the fuel from the plane, thats left over after your done flying for the day? Next question. How do you shut down a running nitro plane? TY

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=994390

[B-24H]

Hello. This is my first post. I started the hobby 6 months ago. I didn't know anyone who did this. I just found out when the club held a meeting and went and introduced myself. I now have a Hobbistar 60 that I'm converting into a tail-dragger. I've totally lost one airplane, crashed many times with different degrees of severity and keep rebuilding. Yes I'm a member of a club and yes I have an instructor. I can only fly one day a week because I still work and my instructor does not fly on Sunday so my progress has been slow. I practice on the simulator most nights. Sound normal? I really don't know. All I know is that I want to solo and I haven't given up yet.

[MerlinV]

Greetings from Down Under.
I have just started in this hobby. I have been static modelling aircraft for years, but not untill recently did I even consider getting into RC... I guess I thought I thought it was all too hard, too expensive... Imagine my surprise to find that I have around 2 and a half grand worth of airplane kits sitting unbuild in my stash... Time to sell some I think.

I have purchased my self an E-FLight Apprentice. Have joined a club and have had a couple of lessons. Unfortnately, our field is closed due to the recent bush fires, so I am only able to fly by visiting other clubs with my instructor.

I have decided that "Leccy" is fine for learning, but for real flying, you need combustion. Looking forward to being able to fly enough to warrant investing in another model... Maybe a Seagull PC-9 in RAAF colours:)

Anyway, I'll be hanging about. Be nice to me if I cross any lines inadvertantly.

Cheers,

Hugh

[Dad_Roman]

Sound normal? I really don't know. All I know is that I want to solo and I haven't given up yet.


B24...sounds about right! Dont give up hope, its a slow process and you will get there soon! I believe that Hobbystar 60 will get ya there. :D


Greetings from Down Under....

I'll be hanging about. Be nice to me if I cross any lines inadvertantly.

Hugh

Welcome to our insanity. :D

No worries, good buncha guys here ;)

[rc modifier]

Hi guys.im also new to the whole nitro thing.i have been flying electric warbirds for about 2 years now. I saw a deal the that was too good to pass up so i bought a kyosho calmato sports with a gx40 engine. Do you think i would manage it ok once i got the engine story figured out. Im not sure if the flight characteristics are the same between electric and nitro?

[kristj179]

i,m new to the sport i purchased a tower trainer 40 tith a tower.46 glow engine i have 2 questions i,m confused about the pinch test i tried it out i pinch thefuel line the plane increases speed just a bit then goes back to the normal speed is this correct i hear different stories also do you have to set the idle mixture screw it seems to run fine i tried to put the plane vertical still seems to run fine?

[muchacho_nacho]

Hi im new to rc airplanes. I got a Tower Trainer 40 for my birthday, and hope to be flying it soon. Is this a fast airplane?
I have a question...everyone calls themselves pilots flying rc. To me a pilot is like my uncle that flies jets in the navy. I dont mean to make anyone mad, just wondering why everyone says that.

[Dad_Roman]

Hi im new to rc airplanes. I got a Tower Trainer 40 for my birthday, and hope to be flying it soon. Is this a fast airplane?
I have a question...everyone calls themselves pilots flying rc. To me a pilot is like my uncle that flies jets in the navy. I dont mean to make anyone mad, just wondering why everyone says that.

Welcome to the sport!

No, the Tower Trainer would not be classified as a fast plane....but you will think it is when you get to fly it :D

We would classify your uncle as a "Fighter Pilot" not an RC Pilot.

Flying a plane is flying a plane...I think you will understand better as you start to fly and progress in the sport.

Good Luck!

[penceaviation]

I have a question...everyone calls themselves pilots flying rc. To me a pilot is like my uncle that flies jets in the navy. I dont mean to make anyone mad, just wondering why everyone says that.

To me a pilot is anyone that can move an aircraft of any scale through the air with skill. I fly full scale too though so I can safely call myself a pilot. I do think RC is harder to learn than full scale and I have done both.

[fat-man]

Hello. This is my first post. I started the hobby 6 months ago. I didn't know anyone who did this. I just found out when the club held a meeting and went and introduced myself. I now have a Hobbistar 60 that I'm converting into a tail-dragger. I've totally lost one airplane, crashed many times with different degrees of severity and keep rebuilding. Yes I'm a member of a club and yes I have an instructor. I can only fly one day a week because I still work and my instructor does not fly on Sunday so my progress has been slow. I practice on the simulator most nights. Sound normal? I really don't know. All I know is that I want to solo and I haven't given up yet.

I am by no means a expert, but I can pass along a little information that helped me. I was always told that the bigger the plane the easier it flew, which I found true. Also, I found I liked the sound of 4-cycle motor, not quite as powerful, lots of torque, but sounds a lot like the real thing. Trike gear is easier to control than tail-dragger. A large flat bottom wing is usually the best to learn, more lift with less speed and while I am thinking about it, be sure you put long colored stripes on the bottem side of wing, that way when in the air, the right side can be distingutished and put upwright. When these planes are done being trainers, by adding floats you got a new flying float plane. I would also like to suggest a RC Simulator which you can find on the internet, with practicing at home with your down time you will be better with the real thing.
Bob

[fat-man]

I am by no means a expert, but I can pass along a little information that helped me. I was always told that the bigger the plane the easier it flew, which I found true. Also, I found I liked the sound of 4-cycle motor, not quite as powerful, lots of torque, but sounds a lot like the real thing. Trike gear is easier to control than tail-dragger. A large flat bottom wing is usually the best to learn, more lift with less speed and while I am thinking about it, be sure you put long colored stripes on the bottem side of wing, that way when in the air, the right side can be distingutished and put plane upwright when confused. When these planes are done being trainers, by adding floats you got a new flying float plane. I would also like to suggest a RC Simulator which you can find on the internet for free to outragous, with practicing at home with your down time you will be better in real time.
Bob

[Dtrimas]

If you like larger trainers, try this:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXU0&P=0
Too bad it's out of stock.

[tacx]

Hi All,

What do you guys find best for cleaning the fuel residue off your planes after a flight?

[Royster]

Hi All,

What do you guys find best for cleaning the fuel residue off your planes after a flight?

Guys will use anything from Windex to a mix of Metho and water. Supermarket shelves have tons of household multi-pupose cleaning sprays. All that stuff works too ;)

I use a spray can of cheap degreaser easy and cheap.

[rodneygt]

Hi All,

What do you guys find best for cleaning the fuel residue off your planes after a flight?

I mostly use baby wipes.

[Dad_Roman]

Hi All,

What do you guys find best for cleaning the fuel residue off your planes after a flight?

Windex mixed 50/50 with alcohol.

[penceaviation]

Windex mixed 50/50 with alcohol.

I thought I was the only one doing that. Works great, cuts the oil right off!

[Dad_Roman]

I thought I was the only one doing that. Works great, cuts the oil right off!

There are no new ideas :p

Yea it does a good job. Can even re-iron a seam after you clean it with that mix ;)

And alcohol is cheaper than anything at wallyworld :D

[glenn297]

Hi there to all the new guys, Im Jarrod aka Marshallcowboy. On Sunday nights I host a Beginners Chat from 7 to 9 PM Central time. There are several of us that enjoy helping the new guys in this hobby, be it glow or electric. So come join us and have your questions ready, and we will do our best to help ya enjoy this great hobby and have a great learning experince.
If you have a question thats needs an answer pretty quickly drop me a PM and I'll give ya an answer as soon as I can. Need it quicker then that then pop in the chat room, most any one there can help ya pretty quickly. So lets make use of the chat room RCG put up and have a great time while learning the basics of flying.
Jarrod aka Marshallcowboy

PS: Mr Moderator can you make this a sticky so the new guys can see when we hold the Beginners Chat. Thanksplease let me know to go to this on sunday im new and want to join in. Thanks for having im sure ill have a load of questions by sunday. If you could pm me with the instructions to get into the chat and thanks again for being there for us beginners
glenn andrews
glenn 297

[glenn297]

if anyone has the wing plans to midwests aero star
or if anyone knows where i could find them please e-mail them to me
reid_young@sbcglobal.net
i could be wrong but they look like they could be cleaned up and made good trainers
glenn297

[tacx]

What kind of alcohol? Denatured, Rubbing, or Jack Daniels!!

[Dad_Roman]

What kind of alcohol? Denatured, Rubbing, or Jack Daniels!!
SACRILEDGE! Not the JD :D

Just rubbing alcohol off the pharmacy shelf at wallyworld. lLike a buck for a big bottle.

[glenn297]

Hi there to all the new guys, Im Jarrod aka Marshallcowboy. On Sunday nights I host a Beginners Chat from 7 to 9 PM Central time. There are several of us that enjoy helping the new guys in this hobby, be it glow or electric. So come join us and have your questions ready, and we will do our best to help ya enjoy this great hobby and have a great learning experince.
If you have a question thats needs an answer pretty quickly drop me a PM and I'll give ya an answer as soon as I can. Need it quicker then that then pop in the chat room, most any one there can help ya pretty quickly. So lets make use of the chat room RCG put up and have a great time while learning the basics of flying.
Jarrod aka Marshallcowboy

PS: Mr Moderator can you make this a sticky so the new guys can see when we hold the Beginners Chat. Thankshi im new to flying ive got a telemaster with a os 46 motor the man that had it was using 15%nitro when i went to store they said 10%would be fine when i started it it ran ruff how do i adjust. sorry i missed the chat
thanks for your time glenn297

[Dtrimas]

Hi All,

What do you guys find best for cleaning the fuel residue off your planes after a flight?


1/3 Rubbing Alchol, 2/3 Water. Put it in a spray bottle and it will save you about $0.50. But actually just Ajax or Windex will work.

[Dad_Roman]

hi im new to flying ive got a telemaster with a os 46 motor the man that had it was using 15%nitro when i went to store they said 10%would be fine when i started it it ran ruff how do i adjust. sorry i missed the chat
thanks for your time glenn297

Glenn, just sounds rich. Lean the high speed needle a little and let us know how it goes.

Go here to read up on tuning... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205602

[coulee]

What kind of alcohol? Denatured, Rubbing, or Jack Daniels!!

No way in heck that I am cleaning anything but me with Gentleman Jack...

I use 409 cut with a 1/4 denatured alcahol.

Ted

[tacx]

Is there anything that is damaging to the coverings? Seems like the coverings are pretty much impervious to anything??

[Rookiepilot]

Hello all, i am just starting to venture into RC flying and have a low bugdet....i am looking to get Domino - 40~46 1.58m (62") (http://www.tempestmodels.com/20-english.html) for £80 new, and just want advice as to whether this would be a wise purchase.

I would love to get one for around £300 but my finances are very limited at the moment.

Many thanks and great site.

[rc crashburn]

Rookiepilot, you will have a much better introductory experience into the world of aeromodeling if you went with something much more durable such as this:MS COMPOSIT CITABRIA (http://images.amainhobbies.com/images/large/msu-300003.jpg)

[Rookiepilot]

Thank you for the response, i will look into that model, i was hoping for something that looked more like a plane.

I will be joining a flying club before i do any flights and will be flying only when i have a experienced instructor to advise and assist me.

[rc crashburn]

OK then, next go to the flying club and direct your questions to club instructors there.
Ask about everything.
Surely you have plenty of questions for them already.
Of coarse ask them what plane you should purchase as your first trainer to start learning with.
When I first started learning my instructor sold me his trainer plane that I was learning on.
This may be a good deal that they can make.
Ask them about that too.
Hope this helps you some.

[Rookiepilot]

You have been very helpful rc crashburn, once i know the flying times of my local club i will go down and chat to the members to see what they say.

Many thanks mate

[rc crashburn]

Be sure to check back here to tell us of the training plane recommendations that you got at the club.

Surely it does not hurt to get other opinions here as well.

Best of luck in your journey along, mate.

[Dtrimas]

I'm pretty sure th overseas

[Rookiepilot]

Hello again, i have not been able to get to the club as the weather has been poor over the weekend, but i hope we have a nice day this weekend so i can go chat about my new found passion.

I have been looking around for possible suitors for my trainer model and have come across this http://www.thegoodiesmartrc.co.uk/art-tech-cessna-182-24ghz-radio-controlled-aeroplane-5941-p.asp for £110 and would be grateful if you could take a look and give me your suggestions. there is a video clip of it about half way down.

Many thanks to you all.

[hogflyer]

Scale planes are not trainers. I recommend scratching that and any other scale plane off the list until you have learned to fly. That C-182 is better suited for a 3rd plane. You need to look into something like a NextStar, Alpha, etc (I'm not familiar with what is available across the pond), something forgiving and easy to fly.

You're better off getting with an instructor first and see what his recommendation is for a trainer before making any decisions or purchases.

Hogflyer

[Rookiepilot]

Indeed your all correct and i shall speak with an instructor at my club....i think the reasons for my looking into the above models was due to their price and my impatients, i know you need to be patient with model flying, but i just soo want to get in the air and enjoy (after many hours with my heart in my throat as i take contorl of the trainer to start lol)

You guys have been great and i will keep you updated as well as let you all know what my club suggests. as i believe it they prefer the Cris Foss (is that correct) models for training, but will ask them face to face at weekend hopefully.

[rc crashburn]

Glad that you did not buy that one. Do not consider purchasing a scale airplane at this time, my friend. Scale models are for advanced pilots. The one you were considering requires at minimum, an intermediate flyer to handle it without crashing. Did you notice how fast it flew? It can get a beginner in trouble in a split-second.

One thing is for sure. Your instructor will provide you with an easier to fly non-scale model. That will give you an excellent chance to learn. Your instructor will guide you to a beginners trainer plane for your future pilot training.

Have patience and hopefully your area weather will clear up soon! Let us know which one they start you on. All the best!

[Rookiepilot]

Thank you for the encouragement, i went to my local clubs RC air display the other week and they had 2 Turbine jets flying (one at a time) at £5,500 each i will never get one lol.

Oh here is my local clubs website if any of you are interested www.rcflyers.net and under the photo's option they have movies in that list and there are lots of them, so feel free to take a look and tell me what you think of the club.

Till next time, happy flying!

[rc crashburn]

I was not able to open that club site. From videos it does look like a huge plot of open area. Gteat for learning! No obstructions. Is there a paved runway? What powered trainers are the instructors teaching on? If you have GPS coordinates we can have a look at the field from the air.

Best regards,
Danny

[Rookiepilot]

The coordinates for the take off circle should be 50"14'06" N, 5"20'39" W those are through google earth. let me know what you think og my part of the world lol.

Edit* there isnt a paved runway, but the grass is cut real short for take off/landing area.

[rc crashburn]

Rookie, I got your field on aerial view!
And that's a most excellent flying area!
A huge open field with no trees, buildings or other obstructions close by.
Be careful of the water though, it's very close!
Is the wiind strong there right at that location?
Mate, this is beautiful country!
How far is your travels to get to the Redruth Flying Club and home again?

[Rookiepilot]

The wind isnt too bad up there which is surprising due to the elevation, and yes i will be careful of the water, but i dont plan to fly over the cliff lol.

Round trip from the club and back is about 3 miles so its very close.

Thank you for the compliment of the country, but it gets worse the further NE you go lol.

[rc crashburn]

Yes, that cliff would be a wicked one to survive, should anyone fall over. :eek:
Rookie, you have been blessed to have a beautiful fying field.
Experienced help there also works heavily in your favour.
And a close to home flying field to begin your flying lessons.
I am downright jealous! :D

Is a permit required to fly RC in your country?
Let us know the specific trainer your instructor starts you out on.
Hoping that you begin flying lessons this very weekend!
Regards,
Daniel

[Rookiepilot]

Sadly it has been another none flying weekend :( which is a pain, it better be nice next weekend or else lol.

We dont need a permit to fly RC, but you do need insurance which is around £25 per year with £5,000,000 third party insurance.

We also have certain certificates that can be achieved:

(a) The ‘A’ Certificate which may be equated to a
‘safe solo' standard of flying.
(b) The ‘B’ Certificate which is designed to
recognise the pilot’s more advanced ability and a
demonstrated level of safety which may be
considered by an event organiser as suitable for
flying at a public display.
In addition, there are endorsements available to the
‘B’ Certificate in various disciplines for those flyers
who wish to take their personal flying standards and
achievements further. At the time of writing, these
are,
The ‘C’ Certificate, Fixed Wing.
The Gold, Diamond and Diamond Star Silent Flight
Thermal Certificates (run by BARCS).
The Gold, Diamond and Diamond Star Silent Flight
Slope Certificates (run by BARCS).

These certifications are awarded by British Model Flying Association examiners in co-operation with the Civil Aviation Authority.

Sorry to ramble on, but i like to be thorough.

Jamie

[Rookiepilot]

Hello all,

I have decided that due to my family wanting to up roots and move to a completely new location, and due also to there being no point in joining my local club as i could be moving in the next 6 months, i would like to get your advise on a suitable setup to start.

My only preferences are:

That it has some form of landing gear (fixed of course).

The transmitter will last me through a considerable time in RC as i want to progress and use the same radio (i.e. 2.4Ghz radio and reciever, programmable etc).

Not too complicated to build as i am a complete beginner.

And for a cost of £450 ($725), (not including flight box, starter (if nitro is recommended) etc).

Also i do not mind purchasing separetly.

Can i ask your advice on what an ESC is and any other general advise that you feel i should know?

Ps i am still going to be flying with a club, and dont worry i would never dream of flying without an instructor....it will take me about 6 months to save for the complete setup to fly....i want to do this hobby properly and safely.

Many thanks and sorry for yet another long post

[Rookiepilot]

One last thing...if you guys across the pond know of any good rc model stores that have good setups for around $725 inc international delivery, please post them here, or PM me.

Many thanks.

[Tagger12]

I'm completely new to this, I want to get into this sport, partly because I'm an airsoft enthusiast, and RC vehicles make great scouting equipment, but also I love to watch the videos of planes hundreds of feet in the air.
But I know i need to start small. First off I know there aren't any "clubs" anywhere within a reasonable distance of me, I don't know what the importance of being a part of a club is, is it important? I live in the US, so I don't think I have any real big restrictions on this stuff, but again, I'm completely new to this stuff.
SO is there any big pointers I need to know, and what are good brands of planes I could look into?

[rodneygt]

Read the other sticky thread at the top of this forum called two questions about 1st flight. Do a lot of reading and searching. Post some questions in the forum instead of in this thread - I don't think that this particular thread is monitored by that many people.

Where are you located?

This is the AMA club search page: http://www.modelaircraft.org/ClubSearch.aspx . But it doesn't get all of the clubs. I thought there were no clubs near me and according to that link there is not any ama clubs but I found one recently when I happened to see a club sticker on a truck driving up the interstate. I googled it and found it. It's only about 30 minutes away. Before that I had become a founding member of a club about an hour from me. Before that, I had just flown out of my pasture (and still do, mostly).

[Tagger12]

Thanks for the link, I found me a place.

And I'll take your advice and see what articles I can find.

[KKKriso]

Hi all,

I am returned to the hobby after a 45 year hiatus. I have been flying R/C choppers since Xmas and have worked my way up to my new Blade 400.

I have also purchased a 40 class high wing sports trainer (Boomerang) and have a few niggly questions regarding engine size and radio receiver.

Recommended engine size is 40-46 in a 2 stroke or 52 in a 4 stroke. My question is - can I fit an ASP 61 4 stroke to this plane? would it be too heavy? I know this particular engine is a recommended upgrade for the 40 class plane.

WIth regards to the receiver I have the Spektrum DX6i and am wanting to fit the AR7000 receiver. Will this receiver work with the DX6i?

Any help will be appreciated,

Cheers,

KKKriso

[DemolitionDman]

Hi guys..
I've read several sets of engine 'break in' instructions; and tuning instructions.. but I am missing something fundamental...
I'm guessing this is probably a really daft question, but can someone explain exactly what the functions of the low end needle and the high end needle is?
I'm having trouble breaking in an MDS 40.. and instructions aside, I dont particularly understand exactly why I'm doing what I'm doing.
Hope that makes sense.
Cheers guys.

[Dad_Roman]

Mr Kriso.....welcome to the board :D

That 61 ASP 4 stroke will be a little heavy but it should be just fine. Be sure to balance the CG ;)

A side note.....Dont know what part of the world you are in but you might wanna rethink that screen name a little :rolleyes: KKK has bad connotations in this part of the world ;)


Mr. DemolitionDman...welcome to the madness :D

Needles, in general, control the fuel flow into the engine.

Low Speed Needle (LSN) controls the idle of the engine. It also assist with the transition to Wide Open Throttle (WOT) This transition takes place in the 3000 to 7000 or so RPM range depending on your particular engine.

High Speed Needle (HSN) Handles the high speed needs of the motor from around 5-7000 and on up.

Dont understand why you are doing what you are doing.....Hmmmm...OK, see if we can answer this without gettin too technical.

All the metal-to-metal surfaces in the engine need to "mold" themselves into each other for maximun efficiency and performance. The break-in period is the period of time the parts actually destroy a little of themselves to mold into each other. Since this is nessessary, we try to achieve an "optimum" environment for them to take care of this bit of business. IE: adjust needles to provide ample lubrication and to control temperature during this process.

If you have any more questions please feel free to ask :D

[DemolitionDman]

Dad_Roman.. thanks for the reply.. definately come to the right place so far as theres a lot of very helpful people out there!
The 'not sure why I'm doing what I'm doing' part was more aimed at the adjustment of the needles to get it running correctly.. I've followed the manufacturers instructions on the high end needle adjustment but am a little more bamboozled by the low end. Should I even be tinkering with the low end needle or is it best left alone? The guidance on the low end seems to be minimal.. Any advice?

[rodneygt]

I'm unfamiliar with the MDS engine. I'm assuming that it is a typical two needle carb and not an airbleed carb (dual needle has the big needle and then another that is typically hidden in the center of the throttle arm - airbleed has the big one and then another screw that opens a little air gap on the carb - both usually also have a bolt or screw that keeps the throttle barrel from falling out)?

Typically, you shouldn't have to mess with the lsn much.

The hsn controls the air/fuel mixture in the higher throttle settings. The lsn controls the air/fuel mixture in the lower throttle settings. This thread provides really good info on adjusting the needles: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205602

When I break in a two stroke abn in about the size range your talking about, I start running it really rich for about ten minutes. Then a little leaner for about ten min. Then a little leaner etc. Then I fly and continue to lean with each tank. Even after it's broken in, you still need to run it about 300-400 rpm richer than its peak rpm.

Also, go to the engine forum of this site and search engine break-in. The procedure for magnums, ttpro, os and other abn two stokes will be about the same as you need - what I said above is just rough - but close enough. Also that forum may be a better place to ask engine questions.

Good luck,
Rodney

[Dad_Roman]

Should I even be tinkering with the low end needle or is it best left alone? The guidance on the low end seems to be minimal.. Any advice?

Your certainly welcome. Be sure and listen to rodney's advise also, he is one of the many here who know what they are talkin about ;)

Dont mess with the LSN unless you have to. The adjustment of that needle is usually a maximum of 1/8 inch at a time and some engines only take a screwdriver width.

Unless your having big probs with idle or transition then leave it alone till you can get some help at the field or from a buddy ;)

[BERNIE45]

Thanks Royster. I just ordered the G3.5. I'm waiting on it to get here. I practice on my E-sky FMS sim right now until the other one arrives. My biggest fear is building one of these planes and not having the required skill to overcome any problems or mishaps. Thanks for the warm welcome.

Mike

Hi i was looking on line for a cheap sim is that E-sky fms any good the price seems too good??

[andrewboktor]

Hi everybody, I like ur forum very much.
I am planning on getting a nitro trainer to start with, but i have some questions though, mainly I need to know the expected prices for things. I live in germany.
1. What trainer would you recommend? (preferably a very well known model so I can find it where i live)
2. What transmitter/receiver do you recommend, I want something cheap and yet something that I will have for life. I mean, cheap, easy to use as a beginner, and I can use it for my upcoming 2-3 airplanes. If possible that you explain how you know that this transmitter/receiver combination will work together, how is it suitable for nitro planes and so on. (again another word about the servos if possible).
3. If the kit/plane u r recommending doesn't come with an engine, which engine.

I guess that's basically it. If i can find a good (not so expensive) system soon (based on ur recommendations) I will definitely buy it and of course will be coming back with loads of questions.

Thanks for every potential replier :D

[andrewboktor]

Guys, anybody knows about the "Kyosho Calmato", anybody flew it before? I am thinking about it as my first baby.

[rodneygt]

Guys, anybody knows about the "Kyosho Calmato", anybody flew it before? I am thinking about it as my first baby.

I've not flown it but I've read that it makes a good trainer. It looks nice too. I had considered getting it as my first plane but went with the world model's sky raider mach 1, which i still have (2 years) and has been a good and resilient plane.

BTW, you might get better responses by posting in the forum, instead of this sticky - probably less people monitor this sticky than the forum.

Here's a pic of the sky raider mk 1 with a bomb drop attachment, as well as the other planes that I've added in two years in this hobby :eek: how do they accumulate like that :confused: