Ultrafly SU-27 is coming

[charlie2020]

We have ship out the first shipment of SU-27 today! Here is the specification:
mm in
Length 910.0 35.8
Wing Span 670.0 26.4
Wing Area 9.8 151.9
Flying Weight 620.0 21.9
Wing Loading 63.3 20.6

It would hit the market early April!

[RCParkflyer]

Nice looking jet

[Tom Gaskin]

Looks good - If it flys as well as my Hawk, I'll have one!

Tom

[EKar]

Where do I buy one?

[rcguy01]

I guess you can get it from www.Towerhobbies.com
I got my F 16 there ;) ;) and soon will get the SU 27 there too.

[flanker]

Love the looks and would get one. But I hope it flys better than the Hawk -- had a terrible time with the Hawk like many others yet many others had no problems.

Charlie which color scheme will it have out of the box.

[flyingwings]

Love the looks and would get one. But I hope it flys better than the Hawk -- had a terrible time with the Hawk like many others yet many others had no problems.

Charlie which color scheme will it have out of the box.

What problems did you have with the Hawk. I am just assembling one right now and that is the best time for change if change is required.

Paul

[Paul Willenborg]

Charlie,

What is with the flaming orange canopies on your latest models? It makes them look like a cheap toy!!

The thing I like best about your models is their reasonable fidelity to scale- the new canopies ruin this. I have a Hawk, like it lot, would not have bought it if it had the orange canopy.

Paul

[netmechanic]

To each his own, I think it looks pretty cool.

[Ralph Brekan]

paint the orange canopy black. If you paint it on the inside it will look like "smoked" glass. :D So are any sites taking pre-orders on this bad-boy?

[Paul Willenborg]

Nope, I much prefer a clear or very light gray tinted canopy. If it's clear you can make it any color you want, if that's what you want. A flaming orange canopy would look great on my (non-scale) T-rex helicopter or on a monster truck, but on a Sukhoi fighter?

The Ultrafly foamies are quite nice because they are actually very close to scale, unlike GWS and most other foamies. A nice paint job and a few extra details and you can end up with a great looking scale model for a small amount of money and effort.

Do you think my Hawk would look better with an orange or black canopy? Pilots are vac-formed, everything else is blue foam. Total weight of cockpit details is under 1/4 ounce.

Paul

[charlie2020]

Flanker,

We use blue/gray as the basic decal. There are too many cover area for the black/red one. This one would be very easy to take off for its wing area is 60% more than the hawk.

CANOPY
Under the Vacumm parts, We still have the foam canopy. You may decorate it as you wish. The color or that plastic orginally is dark brown but after the Vacumm process it become light brown. It is not really orange! I hope you like it when you got it.

Oh! I love your detail work, Paul! I hope I can do it as you!

Charlie

[flanker]

What problems did you have with the Hawk. I am just assembling one right now and that is the best time for change if change is required.

Paul

It had couple of issues at least vicious roll on launch, lots of nose weight required to balance it, under power kept on wanting to go up and stall, and off-course make mince meat of your fingers if you are not extremely careful. There is long thread on Hawk which details all the good and the bad about the Hawk. Too be fair some people had no problems at all and it just flew like a dream while others had significant problems.

[Tram]

So - the orange/brown canopies are all these kits will come with? No more clear canopies????

[RMason]

Charlie -

Is the Sukhoi going to have the thrust vectoring system you mentioned on the F-16 thread, or will it be an option later?

Rob

[DiabloKid]

looks sharp, I need one :)

[charlie2020]

Thrust Vector!
We need aonther 2 months of time to come out. You need to plus one month on sea! 3 months from now at least!

Charlie

[skyhawk]

Great.......................make your canopies clear while your at it.

[Tom Gaskin]

Paul,
Stunning canopy detail!

Here's a piccie of my Hawk - Flys very well with stock powertrain & 3S1P 2100 Lipo.

Tom

[flyingwings]

Paul,
Stunning canopy detail!

Here's a piccie of my Hawk - Flys very well with stock powertrain & 3S1P 2100 Lipo.

Tom

Good Morning Tom

The Hawk looks great.

I am just assembling my Hawk. Ultrafly sure makes a great kit.

Charlie, I want to buy an Su 27 as soon as they are available. I would prefer the canopy clear. Will you be doing an Su 34 and 35?

Did you try doing any panel lines? Or was the foam too soft?

What did you use for taping the paint lines?

What elevation are you at where you live? I am asking as the Edmonton area is at 2,200 ft altitude.

So, my next question is, "Will the Hawk do a large loop from level flight?".

Where did you mount your ESC?

Paul

[Code 33]

Is it a prop pusher of an EDF?

[Code 33]

Can it be modified to an EDF???

[floater]

Tom,

Do you know you can get your pictures of your plane posted on the Ultrafly website?

I really like your pilots and the paint scheme on your hawk...really makes it look even more scale than others...

Isn't the real canopy on most fighter jets the orange/brown/bronze color any ways? I thought many jets were using that to defer sunlight...

[Tom Gaskin]

Guys,
Thanks for the kind comments. I find my Hawk flys very well indeed - the C of G is a few millimetres forward of the recommended spot.

Paul:
No I haven't tried panel lines - I don't think the foam is too soft though (I just didn't bother!)
I used Tamiya paper masking tape.
I'm at sea level (well, about two hundred feet above...)
In the fuselage, on the opposite side to the receiver.
Yes, my setup loops from level flight - it will flick at the top of a loop if you allow it to slow down.

Code 33:
It's a pusher prop - EDF would take a bit of thought & engineering, I think.

Floater:
No I didn't know. As to the colour scheme, acrylic paints are easy to apply & stay flexible enough to adhere well to the foam. Modern jets do seem to be using 'tinted windows' but early jets had clear canopies, so you would have to research your chosen aircraft for that particular fact.

Tom

[Bigplumbs]

Charlie

I am only about to get the F16 and now you got me wanting a SU 27. Still it is only money.

Also Charlie get someone in the UK to read over you draft instruction book before you ship. I spoke to CML yesturday and I am sure they would do it for you. don't let your great models down with those poor instructions.

www.densplanes.co.uk

[Bigplumbs]

Where do you guys get your pilot figures from

[rcguy01]

Charlie

I am only about to get the F16 and now you got me wanting a SU 27. Still it is only money.

Also Charlie get someone in the UK to read over you draft instruction book before you ship. I spoke to CML yesturday and I am sure they would do it for you. don't let your great models down with those poor instructions.

www.densplanes.co.uk


Get both of them then.

Get the F 16 now. It is the most beautiful foam jet that
I have (vs. many of my GWS foam planes). And get the
Su 27 later. That is what I do ;) ;)

[floater]

I agree, get them both... I haven't had a chance to finish my F-16 yet, but I know I will be ordering the Su-27 next.

I bought the hawk last fall and still love it.

Man, my list for this summer is getting so long...

[charlie2020]

Flyingwing,

I don't know how to help you there because I don't know how to do the formula things to estimate the lift we may loose in that location. Living at 2000fee above sea level is a little difficult for RC airplane models! I guess you would need to reduce the weight and put in a brushless motor to make it fly better.
I think you may need help from other EXPERTS!

Anyone?

[kenkamm]

I believe at higher altitudes, you want a larger wing, reduced weight, and you'll need a bigger prop or one with more pitch. The experts can correct me if I'm wrong. :)

[charlie2020]

Kenkamm remind me somthing!

We did use eight cells battery with GWS 350 flying a gws 7x6 prop on Bae Hawk. The flying weight has been reduced for 54g. The model acutally fly very well. Though the speed is not that fast as 10 cell but the lower wing loading make the model take off easily. It can not perform 70 feet loop but still a fun model to fly. If you switch to 2S Lipo it may further reduce the weight for 30-40g but I don't remember the gear ratio we used. You would have to try it out.

[Tom Gaskin]

Bigplumbs,
The smallest military pilot from Williams is about right for this size of model.

Tom

[Bigplumbs]

Bigplumbs,
The smallest military pilot from Williams is about right for this size of model.

Tom


I am in the UK who are williams ??????

www.densplanes.co.uk

[what_the?!]

Flyingwing,

I don't know how to help you there because I don't know how to do the formula things to estimate the lift we may loose in that location. Living at 2000fee above sea level is a little difficult for RC airplane models! I guess you would need to reduce the weight and put in a brushless motor to make it fly better.
I think you may need help from other EXPERTS!

Anyone?

less thrust, less resistance, less current draw.

swings and roundabouts....oversimplifying things...

[Tom Gaskin]

Williams is an American firm that makes moulded accessories - most UK model shops will stock them (mine down in Worthing does, anyway)

Tom

[darmar]

Just found this on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5962887722&rd=1

darmar

[kenkamm]

Holy crap! $40 for shipping!

[netmechanic]

Thats the Ebay Way! 10.00 for the Kit, 200.00 to ship it! What an incredible deal, and if you act now well lose it in international shipping @ no additional cost! Hurry though as losing it is limited to the first 100 callers!

[yesterday]

Oh, you mean. Scambay or no, hold it how about Junkbay.

;-)

[RCParkflyer]

That 40 bux is because it's being drop-shipped from Taiwan, it's a legit price in that case, costly but you get to be the first kid on your block with a Ultrafly SU-27

[netmechanic]

I don't doubt the cost of shipping, I'll just wait for the kits to hit the US. It's gotta cost more to ship 1-10 than 900. My EEE! Bay comment was regarding good deals gone bad on Ebay, My Micro Wireless Spycam cost me $17.00 US and 18.00 to ship, US Postal, 12th rate, on a carrier pigeon. :cool:

[RCParkflyer]

Yeah I hear ya, I did my fair share of selling on Ebay too, even bought one of the marketing "Whiz-bang-buy-it-cheap-sell-it-for-a-fortune" wholesale supplier CD's what a load of bunk, and that only cost $4.50 for shipping, came in a .85 cent envelope.

Although, Once I did corner the market on Ebay, when the Infra-Red "flavor-wave" Oven was first introduced, that lasted for one week LOL but I sold 24 of em, at $25 bux profit each. (Without gouging anyone on shipping) My One shinning achievment :)

BTW that $40.00 for shipping only gets it on a boat, it would cost about $100.00 to airfreight it, if I remember correctly.

[robster94gt]

Hey all, just saw the SU-27 flying today. It was powered with the stock 400 falcon motor. I don't know much about jets, or what to compare it to, but looked like it would be easy to fly. It seemed to be very docile and well-manered, and it glided in very nicely for landing. Looked nice too. I want one now because it looks like it has a very broad speed and peformance range. Ultrafly is making some very temping planes.

Rob

[robster94gt]

Oh, and the guy on ebay selling them is legit. I just bought an ultrafly motor from him - here in Taiwan. Very quick service. I read on a thread that someone bought an f16 from him and received it (in the states) in a matter of days.

Rob

[RCParkflyer]

Oh, and the guy on ebay selling them is legit. I just bought an ultrafly motor from him - here in Taiwan. Very quick service. I read on a thread that someone bought an f16 from him and received it (in the states) in a matter of days.

Rob

Thats good to know, Thanks!!

[Bigplumbs]

Oh, and the guy on ebay selling them is legit. I just bought an ultrafly motor from him - here in Taiwan. Very quick service. I read on a thread that someone bought an f16 from him and received it (in the states) in a matter of days.

Rob

The guy selling them on Ebay isn't you by any chance is he ? :D

[robster94gt]

No, he's not me. The ebay guy is a distributor Charlie from Ultrafly put me in touch with.

Rob

[charlie2020]

The guy in ebay is a dealer in Taiwan!

Charlie

[robster94gt]

One of the better ones I think.

Rob

[darmar]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5962887722&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcN__Storesrdable HUH

[darmar]

Same item, different price.

Very smart.

[klbierley]

All you guy's also check out http://edfmodel.com/ to help me get Charlie on board with an AWESOME Ultryfly airliner/bus. A lot of us want them it's just the legal thing with calling it a Boeing that has kept it from happening more in the industry. So do what EDF did and just stay away from any trademark names and get us an awesome foam airliner. GWS is already on board with the idea ! Thanks and best to all

[charlie2020]

Hi,

I am sorry that the airliner is not in 2005 project. We are still in planing on 2006 projects but no airliner is in the project list as well. However, we do have a serious project about an EDF. We may enter the EDF market early next year. If we do we will have some real EDF models as well!

Charlie

[flanker]

so has anyone bought one from ebay yet? Has anyone gotten one in their hands? I am very tempted to buy it off the ebay.

[Tommy D]

Tower say's Late April and the price is 85.99 unless the manufacturer makes
any kinds of changes to that upon arrival.

Just a FYI

Tommy

[flanker]

Just bought 1. Now the wait begins :)

[darmar]

I just got response from the guy on ebay. He is willing to ship it for $22 but, he says it might take 2 weeks to get to the states.

I'll just wait for one from Tower H. and get the fuselage only as a spare part.
Rest can be made out of depron and I plan to do it EDF anyway.

darmar

[flanker]

Does anyone know what color scheme it comes with? Given that all ultrafly models are white with decals I figured the camo scheme photo was a custom job.

[robster94gt]

Flanker,

The one I saw had the blue camo patches on a plain white fuse. The blue camo patches were actually decals/stickers. I think it comes with them.

Rob

[flanker]

Got mine this morning. I placed the order on Friday and got it Wed morning -- faster than I expected. It did not come in the typical ultrafly box (I believe it was taken out to save weight) but seems to have everything that typically comes with a Ultrafly kit. The canopy color is brownish and if there is something that should be improved for future kits is including a clear canopy.

[flanker]

Now I also need to decide on the color scheme. The decals look good but I really like the blue,red,white,black color scheme. If am feeling lazy I will just go decals otherwise ... lets see :)

[Mark Nankivil]

Greetings -

I just had these two images e-mailed to me - can you say oh so close?!

Fly Fast! Mark

[dusmmdb34]

Flanker-
What power system do you plan to use?

Mike

[flanker]

I am planning to use E-Flite Park 400 - 4200kv motor in the stock Ultrafly gear with the stock prop. I tested this setup with Ultrafly 1.93 ratio gearbox and it pulled around 26amps. With SU-27 gearbox (2.38 ratio) I am hoping it will pull around 20amp. TP2100 3S1P for electrons and E-Flite 20amp ESC. If the amp draw is too much I may have to reconsider and use either Aveox 27/13/4 direct drive or use Himax gearbox with the Park-400 motor.

Anyone interested in a brandnew Falcon motor :)

[charlie2020]

Hi Flanker,

The E-Flite Park 400 is much smaller in Torque, You should use a 3:1 gear ratio for 6" or 7" Prop. For a 7" prop 11000 RPM is already very fast and powerful to do all the tricks. 13000 will do vertical climb!

Charlie

[flanker]

Thanks for the input Charlie -- I appreciate it. I intend to bench test first to determine the ratio I need. I will let you know.

Some first impressions that may help you develop your future planes:

- I REALLY like the fact that it is scale like. Much closer to scale than a bigger EPP puffin models SU-27 I had.

- Really like the plastic belly covers they should help keep the plane clean and reduce scratches

- Like the smoothness of the foam and plywood reinforcements

- Like the comprehensive decal set (even though I plan on using a different scheme)

- I loved the Ultrafly Hawk's canopy this one is a far cry from it. Please bring back the same style. Clear and hollow as oppose to foam covered with brownish plastic -- it adds so much to the scale look.

- The two layer depron tail feathers look really cheap in an otherwise quality kit. At least consider having them a single piece

- I can't imagine anyone who has not put together a GWS or Ultrafly plane before being able to do so with the included instructions. Not a big deal to me but others may have an issue. But then again this kit is for at least intermediate builders and flyers. Also far too many spelling and translation errors. I am sure someone on the forum would be glad to it for free or in exchange for a free kit.

- I definitely think that moving to 7x5 prop is the right thing it will give much better static and low speed thrust for hand launches than 6x5.5

- The battery hatch is too narrow even for TP 2100 -- not a big deal since I can easily widen it some without impacting the structural integrity. In my opinion all high performance electric planes should now be built with a consideration for brushless and LiPo power.

More to come later as I start the build - work is way too busy these days :(

[darmar]

Flanker, could you weight fusselage with engine pods only please?

I wanted to order one and convert it to EDF but wanted to know if it's doable with only fusselage part from this ARF. Rest I would make out of Depron.

darmar

[Ed Waldrep]

An important thing to know for possible EDF conversion is how wide the engine nacelles are. If this plane is the same size as the F-16, the nacelles might be too small for fit in even a Wemotec Microfan, which is 2" wide. Hard to tell for sure.

[darmar]

Well, you right Ed about that.
However Fusselage alone should be available trough the Tower H. sometime down the line.

If you get that only for few bucks,the rest, like I plan can be fabricated in depron including slightly oversized nacelles maybe in blue foam, wire cut or just sanded to shape and covered depending on how you like the surfce to be, scratch free, hard as a rock or whatever.

Edited: cant wait for tower hobbies, so I just decided to do it and ordered one from ebay guy from Taipei directly for $61 shipped. :)
He takes Paypal. His email: machinebyte@junglemachine.com

darmar

[Tommy D]

Guys

Without trying to sound like Mr Lin of GWS “sure were making that any day now” fame….. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The Ultrafly The SU-27 will be available for pre-order from Tower Hobbies within 1 week.

Hope this helps!

Part number UFLA1080.

Sigh…. So many models… so little time!

Tommy

[darmar]

I noticed that the fuselage is not that scale at least the spine/hump of the model. It should go all the way back
Was it so hard to get that detail too. Also on the real one there is no transition line between spine and LEX.

[darmar]

Note where red lines go on one image.

Other image shows how it should look.

darmar

[cyberfly]

yep, it looks like Mig-29 more than Su-27

:)

[flanker]

Agreed. It is not a true scale but more so scale like. I have not seen any other foam SU-27 that is more true to scale. Do you know of any?

[rcguy01]

:rolleyes:
Could you guys, who have the SU 27, please put it up in the sky
flying and worry about how scale it is later? :) :)
I can't wait to lay my hands on it, come on Tower???

And believe me, tone of guys out there will not be able to tell
the difference between the SU 27, Mig 29, F14, F 15, F 18
because they all have similar look of twin vertical tail.
:) :)

[floater]

How scale will it look when it is going 75 mph?

[netmechanic]

:rolleyes:
Could you guys, who have the SU 27, please put it up in the sky
flying and worry about how scale it is later? :) :)
I can't wait to lay my hands on it, come on Tower???

And believe me, tone of guys out there will not be able to tell
the difference between the SU 27, Mig 29, F14, F 15, F 18
because they all have similar look of twin vertical tail.
:) :)
Well put GB, People around here have a tendncy to WAY over analize everything

[dusmmdb34]

Your price was good, tower quoted 84 or 89, I don't remember which. I am on their list, who knows when it will arrive. Unless I find a coupon that will be 90 to 95 shipped. Should have ordered on e-bay and paid higher shipping..........would have been a wash

Mike

PS: for those who don't like the scaleness, I will be happy to take yours ;)

[Tommy D]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=UFLA1080&FVPROFIL=++&search3=Go

[flyingwings]

How scale will it look when it is going 75 mph?

If the model is called Su 27 then it really behooves the manufacturer to do his best to achieve a scale model.

At the same time achieving 100% scale is impossible. Try starting with 3 view scale drawings. Scan the drawing into a CAD program and then trace over one side only and then mirror that tracing to the other half of the airplane. See if the two halves match up. Doubtful.

Secondly, have you compared the same version of the aircraft. Having worked in the aircraft for 30 years I have found that many changes are made to an aircraft that never show up on any drawings. Or let's put it this way, the changes are never published for public consumption.

When I was comparing the various published images of the Su27 I could never find images that agreed with one another. Some differences in fuselage length and depth were significant enough to change the general appearance of the airplane.

Attached is a photo of my Su 35. I can guarantee you that it is scale. At least it is from the image I was working on. Well maybe I sanded a little heavy here and there. Gee comparing it to some pictures on the internet my model doesn't look like the real one at all. So what is scale? At best scale is what appears to be correct when the judge is standing 10 feet away.

Paul

[cyberfly]

Paul,

Yours looks better. :)

[flyingwings]

Paul,

Yours looks better. :)

Thank you very much. I appreciate your comment.


The Su 27 variants, the 35 is a variant, were quite complex to figure out. Then when it was figured out it became obvious how it should be built.

Paul

[flanker]

Flanker, could you weight fusselage with engine pods only please?

I wanted to order one and convert it to EDF but wanted to know if it's doable with only fusselage part from this ARF. Rest I would make out of Depron.

darmar

The fus is 3.5 oz and each engine pod is .5 oz

[Matt Halton]

I carved one from a block of blue foam and hollowed it, built up wings/tail.
Flies superbly with Mega 16/15/4 on 10 cells.

Not dead scale, but carved by eye.

Building thread here:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78938&highlight=flanker

[flyingwings]

I carved one from a block of blue foam and hollowed it, built up wings/tail.
Flies superbly with Mega 16/15/4 on 10 cells.

Not dead scale, but carved by eye.

Excellent work.

What did you cover the foam with?

What is the wingspan? Blue foam is typically 3 lb. density. Potential for saving weight using 1.3 lb density.

When do we see a video?

Paul

[dusmmdb34]

Matt
Let me get this straight, you carved that 27 from a block of foam?? Suddenly I feel that I am a newborn, not a beginner.

That is beautiful, wish I had your skill

Mike

[flyingwings]

Matt
Let me get this straight, you carved that 27 from a block of foam?? Suddenly I feel that I am a newborn, not a beginner.

That is beautiful, wish I had your skill

Mike

Your right.

However, You could learn very quickly. Cutting from foam is simple. The nice part about foam that if you screw up it is very easy to start again.

Paul

[JasonJ]

Flying Wings, very nice 35 Flanker, more details! Matt, well, it goes without saying.
There are many varients of the Flanker, but even the prototype had very round transitions. the first time I saw this kit I thought the same thing, thats a Mig 29, no doubt. If the lines dont give it away, the vents on the top of the Strakes make it clear. The Mig 29 is a very cool jet, why paint it two tone blue and call it an SU-27? Paint it Green and Blue, its easier to see in the air :D Oh well, like was said, in the air, its all good, unless your like me and spend more time admiring jets on the ground :D .

[flyingwings]

Just a comparison of the Su 27 and the Mig 29

Attached images.

There are subtle differences. I would say Ultrafly Su27 looks closer to Su27.

Paul

[flyingwings]

[QUOTE=JasonJ]Flying Wings, very nice 35 Flanker, more details!

The Su35 was a 48 scale Catapult Launched kit that I produced. I have also produced the drawings for a 24 scale. Wing span is 24.61 inch.

When I get time I will be building the 35 using an in runner brushless. Outrunner wouldn't look right. I have sent Tom Nelson the drawings. Maybe he will build it first.

My version will be from 1.3 lb density foam with carbon fibre mat covering. Shooting for a weight of 16 oz.

Paul

[JasonJ]

[QUOTE=JasonJ]Flying Wings, very nice 35 Flanker, more details!

The Su35 was a 48 scale Catapult Launched kit that I produced. I have also produced the drawings for a 24 scale. Wing span is 24.61 inch.

When I get time I will be building the 35 using an in runner brushless. Outrunner wouldn't look right. I have sent Tom Nelson the drawings. Maybe he will build it first.

My version will be from 1.3 lb density foam with carbon fibre mat covering. Shooting for a weight of 16 oz.

Paul

Incredible! That will be quite a feat for a BL twin EDF. My 22" SU- 57 single is 14 OZ RTF. I am interested in the build. Tom, any progress on the project?
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347693&page=2

[flanker]

Construction has begun in earnest. Actually I have it pretty much except for decoration. It is a pretty quick build except for the elavator assembly. You are better off assembling the whole (elevator support) before gluing it in.

Color will be russian knights and power system E-Flite park 400 in UF gearbox using 7x5 (stock) prop on TP 2100 pulling 21 amps WOT. I hope to launch it and fly it at around 3/4 throtle to avoid torque roll and pushing the gearbox too hard.

[Tommy D]

Looking Good !

How do you plan on hand launching it?

Tommy

[flanker]

There is a plywood support in the middle of two engine covers which is meant to hold to the plane for hand launching. So that is what I will be using. I am quite use to hand launching and have done it for several other jets in the past as well as my two other current jets (HET F-18 and Brushless Electrajet). However, I am little nervous given my bad experience with UF Hawk hand launches.

[flyingwings]

There is a plywood support in the middle of two engine covers which is meant to hold to the plane for hand launching. So that is what I will be using. I am quite use to hand launching and have done it for several other jets in the past as well as my two other current jets (HET F-18 and Brushless Electrajet). However, I am little nervous given my bad experience with UF Hawk hand launches.

May I suggest that if you are going to hand launch rather than catapult launch read look at how Tom Nelson launches his Su27 in all his videos. When I visited him he said that he never had a hand launch failure.

Paul

[Ralph Brekan]

Well if he's not going DD he might be able to just toss her out level. But a slightly banked toss (45 degrees banked counter to torque roll) is the ideal way to launch a DD pusher. Gives you enough time to get to the sticks as it rolls back level.

So, are these now availble in the States? Or is the one I'm looking at a personal import direct from Asia??

[Ralph Brekan]

:rolleyes:
Could you guys, who have the SU 27, please put it up in the sky
flying and worry about how scale it is later? :) :)
I can't wait to lay my hands on it, come on Tower???

And believe me, tone of guys out there will not be able to tell
the difference between the SU 27, Mig 29, F14, F 15, F 18
because they all have similar look of twin vertical tail.
:) :)

No doubt, you could put those stabs on at a 45 degree angle and call it a F22 also, LOL! :p Wheres RCParkflyer and all the scale guys? :D

I think its a sweet looking plane. Alot nicer looking than EPP ones at Nesail.

[rcguy01]

No doubt, you could put those stabs on at a 45 degree angle and call it a F22 also, LOL! :p Wheres RCParkflyer and all the scale guys? :D

I think its a sweet looking plane. Alot nicer looking than EPP ones at Nesail.


You bet :p
then turn the wings forward and call it the Berkut
ROTFLOL

[flanker]

May I suggest that if you are going to hand launch rather than catapult launch read look at how Tom Nelson launches his Su27 in all his videos. When I visited him he said that he never had a hand launch failure.

Paul

Great suggestion. Where can I find that video? Can you post a link?

Thanks

This one is a direct import (ebay)

[flyingwings]

Great suggestion. Where can I find that video? Can you post a link?

Thanks

This one is a direct import (ebay)

You will enjoy this site.


http://www.foamyfactory.com/jets.htm