F-16C falcon parkjet

[Levi Jordan]

f-14 pics.!! :D
1 min to find 20 to load :p

[RCParkflyer]

Hi Hans,

Just woke up so if this doesn't make sense I'll re-write it later LOL
Elevons travel the the full "Throw" of the servo, if you want to set an end point of travel, you do that on the computer Transmitter. You can also set the "Throws" with Dual rates, larger throws for for slow flight, shorter throws for fast flight. You have to experement with throw distances to find what your comfortable with for your flight at the time.

[Hans-Joachim]

Hi Hans,

Just woke up so if this doesn't make sense I'll re-write it later LOL
Elevons travel the the full "Throw" of the servo, if you want to set an end point of travel, you do that on the computer Transmitter. You can also set the "Throws" with Dual rates, larger throws for for slow flight, shorter throws for fast flight. You have to experement with throw distances to find what your comfortable with for your flight at the time.


Good Morning Tom,

I think of the difference in move, between ailerons and tailerons,
to get the same result in flight.

If you can compare your experiences for the F-22 (aileron move and
taileron move), your result will be helpful for me.

:) ... you can get your breakfast first, because we have our dinner in a few minutes. LOL !

Hans-Joachim

[Hans-Joachim]

.. starts to look like a dino

[RCParkflyer]

Good Morning Tom,

I think of the difference in move, between ailerons and tailerons,
to get the same result in flight.

If you can compare your experiences for the F-22 (aileron move and
taileron move), your result will be helpful for me.

:) ... you can get your breakfast first, because we have our dinner in a few minutes. LOL !

Hans-Joachim

Hi Hans-Joachim,

I've never had Alerons on my F-22, just the Elevons (the picture was someone elses jet) My Elevons move about 1 inch up and down, but that is because of the size of the short servo arms (about 1 inch long) I'm using, then anything else. I fly the F-22 pretty slow on the stock brushed motor, so the set-up is adequate for my needs.

About the only difference that I've noticed between the aleron/elevator jets and the Elevon jets, is the roll of the plane. Elevons tend to push the tail end of the jet around, so in some cases, rolls look more like corkscrews or barrel rolls, where as a aleron roll is smoother.

This might help This is a video of a Wattage F-22 Raptor (not mine) that shows the elevon movements better

http://www.streamload.com/JIMinKENTUCKY/WattageRaptor.wmv

Hope you enjoyed your dinner :)

Cheer's
Tom - Milwaukee

P.S. you really should start a new build thread for the F-14 :) it's too good to get burried in the F-16 thread.

[Hans-Joachim]

Hi Hans-Joachim,

I've never had Alerons on my F-22, just the Elevons (the picture was someone elses jet) My Elevons move about 1 inch up and down, but that is because of the size of the short servo arms (about 1 inch long) I'm using, then anything else. I fly the F-22 pretty slow on the stock brushed motor, so the set-up is adequate for my needs.

About the only difference that I've noticed between the aleron/elevator jets and the Elevon jets, is the roll of the plane. Elevons tend to push the tail end of the jet around, so in some cases, rolls look more like corkscrews or barrel rolls, where as a aleron roll is smoother.

This might help This is a video of a Wattage F-22 Raptor (not mine) that shows the elevon movements better

http://www.streamload.com/JIMinKENTUCKY/WattageRaptor.wmv

Hope you enjoyed your dinner :)

Cheer's
Tom - Milwaukee

P.S. you really should start a new build thread for the F-14 :) it's too good to get burried in the F-16 thread.


Thank you Tom,

a lot of help!

I´ll go with 1 inc move.


My wife has brought the dinner to me.

I´ve just finished the cross - sections on the F-14 :)
Yes I know, I should start a new thead for the F-14.
I think it´s better to finish her first and if she push her beautyful tail
like she should, then I would .. :)

To start with the F-14 was more a joke, because Carl (MichNet76)
was talking about future projects some days ago and I´ve played
a little bit with my cad software because the F-14 is our all time favourite. :)

Greetings Hans-Joachim

[Hans-Joachim]

... look at this tail ... I hope she will push it around ! :)

[Hans-Joachim]

There will be a flat plate between the two blue lines
in the sideview to mount the tailerons and to get to body form.
The cross sections are only for me to get the right form of the body.

[RCParkflyer]

I think your off to a fine start, and the elevons will work great :)

[im-sad]

Hi hans. i got my account activated and dont have to use 3d fomys. :) yay

nice f-14. gonna be a bit heavy with all those formers. how many versions are there gonna be?? sweep and neutral??
adriel
indonesia

[Hans-Joachim]

Hi hans. i got my account activated and dont have to use 3d fomys. :) yay

nice f-14. gonna be a bit heavy with all those formers. how many versions are there gonna be?? sweep and neutral??
adriel
indonesia

Hi im-sad,

Adriel, wellcome at ezone ! :-)

most of the formers are only for me, to get the right size for the body.
I´ll cut them away after forming.

Hans-Joachim

[Hans-Joachim]

Looks like, I have to wait some more time for the mega-minifan ESC :(
F-16C, No.2 is still waiting for the "swinging", too :)

This evening it was cloudy, but there was no wind.

So I´ve taken F-16C, No.1 and was flying her 3 pack-times,
most at 1/2 trottle around my nose. :cool:

Unbelievably for me, how slow these birds can fly without getting
a streaming cut! Slow motion in real time!

Hans-Joachim

[Hans-Joachim]

Here is a F-16 picture with a nice painting.

I´ve got it from a friend.

[Hans-Joachim]

... the other picture is more sharply.
I mean the Focal length ;)

[Hans-Joachim]

Tom,

that´s the real paint for a birthday present ! :)


It´s a present from me to you.

Hans-Joachim

[RCParkflyer]

Hahaha :) I might just have to paint that on my Ultrafly F-16
Very good, thank you Hans-Joachim

[RCDad]

Hans, I'm going to have to put my F-16 build on hold for a while. I got swept away with a friends Pocket F-18 and wanted to build one for myself so we could try some mini Blue Angel formation flying. I hope to get back to the F-16 soon.

Kevin.

[Hans-Joachim]

Hans, I'm going to have to put my F-16 build on hold for a while. I got swept away with a friends Pocket F-18 and wanted to build one for myself so we could try some mini Blue Angel formation flying. I hope to get back to the F-16 soon.

Kevin.


Yes I understand,

two F-18 in the air at the same time is much more fun
than one F-16 on the ground.

My son has to learn a little bit more.
But I beleave, there will be two F-16 in formation flight this year. :)

Greetings and happy flying
Hans-Joachim

[im-sad]

Hi hans
anything new on the f-14??
iv put my f 16 on hold cuz i (believe it or not) lost my transmiter. :(
i may have left it at the club. but if i lost it for good , well , heloo new transmitter.

[Hans-Joachim]

Hi Adriel,

I think you will get a new TX (with mixing option),
if not, you can get electronic to use for mixing.

[Hans-Joachim]

It was raining today.

I´ve spent the time with my family.

... building a Pitts Special for Alexandra,
my 8 years old daughter ! ;)

For shure, she isn´t able to fly this bird! :D

... Here is a picture of the Pitts.

[Hans-Joachim]

Oh, I´ve forgotten,

Pitts Special,
87 cm WS,
90 g with "Barbie head" (the body is 6mm flat depron),

No Electric,
no LG steel or carbon,

only Depron and UHU por glue!


Greetings
Hans-Joachim

[im-sad]

Well hans , Im hopeing for one. thinking of a 9 ch . just got to think about the buget.
oh well back to serching.

[Michnet76]

Well guys... I am getting there. I was hoping to have her to maiden standard by tomorrow so I could give it a maiden but I've had too much on my plate to invest the appropriate hours into finishing her off. Been a fine project so far so not worth ruining it by doing a quick and rough job to get it airworthy.

To date I have completely covered the bottom with So-Lite solarfilm (white), has turned out okay, well for a first attempt it's ok anyway! Then stuck on the fin and side skirtings then cut off the old profile canopy and carved out a new one. I've had to hack a bigger hole in the fuse to get the new canopy to sit properly but made a bit of a mess... oh well a bit of balsa and putty and she'll be right! LOL! Beauty of covering with film is that it hides a lot of the building imperfections LOL!

Anyway on to the pics:

http://users.tpg.com.au/cgboehm/f16xl/final_02.jpg

http://users.tpg.com.au/cgboehm/f16xl/final_01.jpg

http://users.tpg.com.au/cgboehm/f16xl/final_03.jpg

http://users.tpg.com.au/cgboehm/f16xl/final_04.jpg

My apologies for the blurred background... kinda ashamed of my untidy office! LOL!

Hey Hans, considered creating a new thread for the F-14 project? This one's getting a little long and people who might be interested in the F-14 may not click on the 'F-16C falcon parkjet' thread link.

[Hans-Joachim]

Carl,

She looks Great!
... and Fast!

"Please, one video from the maiden flight !!"

I´ve got a E-flite 20-Amp Brushless Speed Control for the
mega 16/7/5 and the wemotec minifan 480, with 3s1p 1550
~ 21 Amp. It works.

I´ve used F-16C, No.2.
It was windy today, but we were flying.

The thrust wasn´t good enough for me. I think, I have to optimize
the in-and outlet,
but I´ve offered Jan-Henrik, that he is the new owner of F-16C, No.2
when the speed 400, 7.2V is back in her body and I´ll do so.



What do you think about, putting
the 16/7/5 and the minifan in a profil F-14?
should have ~ 500g thrust

or the 16/15/2 with 3s3p tanic 1550 in a depron F-14?

but, let´s talk about a F-14 thread after F-16XL maiden.

Greetings Hans-Joachim

[im-sad]

Well bad news. I found my transmitter. the good news i can continue my f16.
whats new hans??

[Hans-Joachim]

Well bad news. I found my transmitter. the good news i can continue my f16.
whats new hans??

Hi Adriel,

go on,

I hope to see some more pictures from your growing up F-16.

If she is around 440 - 470g, you can use a speed 400, 7.2V,
GWS7035prop on 11.1V like F-16C, No.2.
That´s more fun than a mega 16/7/5 on 3s1p with wemotech 480 minifan.
(if in-and outlet isn´t optimized)



Greetings to Indonesia and happy flying
Hans-Joachim

[Hans-Joachim]

.. Oh yes,
the news from today:

I´ve had 3 flights with F-16C, No.1 (raining conditions and a little wind)
but fun!


Hey Carl, ... no Stearman ... but,

my 4. Lipo-Pack today was in the Pitts Special, I´ve started two days ago.

Pitts Special.
Maiden Flight!

87 cm ws,
360g rtf (without Barbie) with
3s1p 1550 Tanic,
8x6 slimprop,
typhoon 6/24

The Pitts wouldn´t roll to the right at > 1/3 trottle !
so I mostly went left :D
I have to look and to learn about her !

Flying a jet is much easier for me at this time!

Here are some pictures.

Greetings
Hans-Joachim

[Hans-Joachim]

I´ve found my problem,

and if I couldn´t correct it, the Pitts Special will get new wings.
Flat plate, 6mm and a little sanding,
because it´s easier for me to get the line! :)

[Michnet76]

geee... has anyone told you you're a genius Hans? Apart from that twisted wing it looks to be a nice flyer! Wish I could just knock up a plane and have it fly just like that! LOL!

Perhaps some fishing line nylon bracing might help keep the wings from flexing like that.

[Hans-Joachim]

geee... has anyone told you you're a genius Hans? Apart from that twisted wing it looks to be a nice flyer! Wish I could just knock up a plane and have it fly just like that! LOL!

Perhaps some fishing line nylon bracing might help keep the wings from flexing like that.

Hi Carl,

I´ve used nylon to get no flexing
and turned the side rudder a little bit to the right
( Looks like 6° right ! and 3° down for the motor).

.. The Pitts Special is flying, like she has never done anything else, before !

I have learned a lot the last 2 days !!

3 Lipos for F-16C, No.1, till darkness!

At least, I was flying in front of the trees to get a Contrast. :)


Carl, what about Maiden Flight F-16XL and a possible video ?

Adriel, some news about your F-16 ?

I´m feeling good !

Hans-Joachim

[Michnet76]

I'm hoping for a maiden this Sunday... few small things to sort out then I'll start covering the top half of the bird with the solarfilm then she'll be ready for the maiden! Don't worry I'll certianly let you know when it's maiden time!

[im-sad]

No hans . no news. Just got sick today(kept sleeping at 3 am to post here.:p go figure)
planingto as soon as i get more depron.
. see ya hans.
more news on the f 16XL????
adriel

[Michnet76]

planingto as soon as i get more depron.
Adriel.... just start saving your meat tray's, you'll eventually have enough! ;)

more news on the f 16XL????

If you're refering to my balsa XL, then see above... hoping to work a little more on it tonight, I sat down and looked at the canopy situation (trying to get a nice fit between canopy and fuse and a method to secure it) during my lunch break and have come up with something to try, so I started the process then and will complete it tonight, hopefully it'll work out! If it does I'll explain more incase anyone else gets into the same situation.

I can just see it flying now!

[Hans-Joachim]

No hans . no news. Just got sick today(kept sleeping at 3 am to post here.:p go figure)
planingto as soon as i get more depron.
. see ya hans.
more news on the f 16XL????
adriel

Adriel, like Carl said : .... just start saving your meat tray's !

bigger meat - bigger tray´s ;)

Hans-Joachim

[im-sad]

Yup yup. got to start eating a lot more meat . LOL :p
I need 6 mm for the formers so got to wait.
and I dont think a meat tray wing would hold up to well. ;)

[im-sad]

the only thing new is the intake. sheeted some of it and added a lip . looks a lot more scale. And i need a lot of depron cuz i flew a freinds Wing Dragon into a tree. that was a riot. Blasted the wings apart. and i got to make a new tail for him. Cant help but feeling a bit responsible.

[Hans-Joachim]

... I sat down and looked at the canopy situation (trying to get a nice fit between canopy and fuse and a method to secure it) during my lunch break and have come up with something to try, so I started the process then and will complete it tonight, hopefully it'll work out! If it does I'll explain more incase anyone else gets into the same situation.

I can just see it flying now!


Carl,

It´s a shame, I still use "tape" to fasten the canopy. One pack (role) till now.
I have to open the canopy after every flight.
52 days. 26 flight-days 3 flights per day = 78 flights. :)

Hey, more than 6,5 hours flighttime on F-16 !

For the canopy and the tape: "That´s the stability of an interim solution!"

Hans-Joachim

[Hans-Joachim]

the only thing new is the intake. sheeted some of it and added a lip . looks a lot more scale. And i need a lot of depron cuz i flew a freinds Wing Dragon into a tree. that was a riot. Blasted the wings apart. and i got to make a new tail for him. Cant help but feeling a bit responsible.

Adriel, that´s a good idea with the intake lip. I´ll do it, too.

[Michnet76]

Got any photo's of the air intake Adriel?? Be interesting to see it!

Hans = Yep tape is my best friend too! Got all sorts in my kit bag, electrical, masking, cello, cloth etc... oh yeah and a healthy amount of CA and epoxy! LOL!
I was hoping for a more permanent (and nicer looking) solution for my balsa built canopy.

I've setup up my 'idea' for getting a nice fit for the canopy, the glue is drying as I write so with any luck I might get to tidy it up tonight as well.

My digital cameras' broke as well. (bugger) the lens has snapped off so to take photos I have to hold the lens to the camera body but the focus is out of wack!!! Doh, That camera cost me $1200 AUD's too!

[im-sad]

Woow $1200 . thats BIG>
Ill post pics on later when im on my other computer.
And dont hope to much. I still think that theres someting missing.hmmmmm
adriel

[im-sad]

hmmm are we the only ones who have talked on this thread recently???
Its like a personal chatroom.:p
wheres evryone else????????

[Michnet76]

Yeah $1200, mind you that was nearly 5 years ago when 2 megapixel was the greatest! I brought it cause of it's very nice CCD, even compared to alot of new mid range cameras it's far superior - I'm talking from a graphic prepress's photo compositor's point of view for reproduction purposes... anyway enough of that.

The glue has dried and I got jiggy with the blade, file and sandpaper and my theory has served me well... Photo's...

http://users.tpg.com.au/cgboehm/f16xl/canopy_fit_01.jpg
http://users.tpg.com.au/cgboehm/f16xl/canopy_fit_02.jpg
http://users.tpg.com.au/cgboehm/f16xl/canopy_fit_03.jpg
http://users.tpg.com.au/cgboehm/f16xl/canopy_fit_04.jpg

As you can see, a very nice snug fit between the canopy and fuse now! It has also strengthene'd the cockpit area significantly!

Basically as you can probably tell from the photo's, I layered a sheet of 2.5mm balsa over the whole cockpit area and liberally applied balsa glue then cut it out to shape, giving me a nice flat surface to pop the canopy on and a nice clean straight edge to the fuse. Bit of lightweight filler and we're done! Nice!

[im-sad]

Nice. Be great to see it fly. If it doesnt , slap on some LG's and put her outside as a Static model/Monument. LOL
And if you realy want it to fly put a glow .40 on that. (with gear.)
Itll go vert. :)

[Michnet76]

yeah if you read through the earlier threads I've already thrown the idea around for going gas. See what happens come maiden day though. I've set it up so the motor is mounted in a GWS style gearbox housing so if need be I can play with gearing if I need more horses. But the motor combo I'll be using really hurled around my dodgy 950g corflute version nice and fast so I'm hoping it'll do the same with this balsa version!

[im-sad]

Oh you did??? Guss i forgot. well i took the pics and now just need to upload them. hold on about an hour.

[im-sad]

Pics

[im-sad]

I havent sanded it yet so still looks rough.
hmmmm. Bored.

[Hans-Joachim]

.. As you can see, a very nice snug fit between the canopy and fuse now! It has also strengthene'd the cockpit area significantly!

Basically as you can probably tell from the photo's, I layered a sheet of 2.5mm balsa over the whole cockpit area and liberally applied balsa glue then cut it out to shape, giving me a nice flat surface to pop the canopy on and a nice clean straight edge to the fuse. Bit of lightweight filler and we're done! Nice!


Carl, you can´t hide your profession!!

This is the perfect style!

[Hans-Joachim]

I havent sanded it yet so still looks rough.
hmmmm. Bored.

Hi Adriel, the inlet looks good. I´ll do the same.

I´ve done three flights with F-16C, No.1.
In the second flight,
I was flying with full speed from 50 m in ~ 15 ° down to level flight,
when suddenly the motor stopped and there was no response.
She crashed from 10 m ~ 15° down in the field. :eek:

woom!

My selfmade 3s1p had no more contact :o

But she is still OK!!!! Nothing happend !!

I´ve changed the pack and managed flight number three.
Be careful with selfmade packs!

[im-sad]

Hans hows the f 14. Debateing on whos to biuld. Jetsets or yours...........

[Hans-Joachim]

Hans hows the f 14. Debateing on whos to biuld. Jetsets or yours...........

I don´t want to go with swing wings. (I´ve only a 4 ch. TX)
I want to build the F-14 as light as possible with tailerons.

Let us wait until Carl´s and your F-16 is flying
and do a "joint venture" if you want.

Everybody is waiting for Jetset44´s F-14,
I think it doesn´t look good
to start a F-14 thread at this time.

This thread here is 7 weeks old and
started some hours after F-16C maiden.
It´s my contribution to this great forum,
but I haven´t seen anyone else flying this F-16C till now.

This F-16 who is a realy great parkflyer,
stabil in windy conditions, ~ 440 g light with 73 cm ws,
easy to fly, at slow and fast speed,
but it looks like nobody is realy hot to build it.

To design, to build is fun for me.
I´m glad that I have found a way to built this F-16 and got
a cheap and cool ParkFlyer for me and my son.

With this bird, more than 80 flights till now, I have learned aileron flying.
And this F-16 is still in one piece!

Hans-Joachim

[RCParkflyer]

Hi Hans-Joachim

I just wanted to point out that there may be many copies of your F-16 flying around, but some people never talk about them. If you look at the first set of plans they average over 325 downloads. the second set of files are at about half that. and the XL wing is sitting at 128 now. So people are looking at the very least. The E-zone gets a lot of visitors that never sign-up, so they can't post. Plus when the New pusher-prop jet section was started, I posted your plans in there too, that thread is a "Sticky" at the top of the index page, go take a look at how many times those has been downloaded.

So there may not be a lot of people posting in the thread, but I'm sure there are a bunch of your jets flying around the world :)

[Michnet76]

Very well put RCParkFlyer... I don't post very often on other project threads but I certainly search through the forums to find ideas and information, these forums are an extremely valuable asset. Hense why I like to explain things as much as I can (like the cockpit situation above), may be a bit longwinded for short conversation but you never know who might be searching around for information such as that. No sense in re-inventing the wheel a million times!

[Thomas Nelson]

From personal experience in connection with my Flanker I can definitely agree with RCParkflyer. For instance, I know of two Flankers that never appeared in ezone. Given the popularity of your thread I've little doubt others are building & flying Vipers based on your plans.

Your inventiveness and willingness to share your cool bird is a BIG asset to this community. Don't be discouraged, Hans-Joachim! If your Tomcat is not to be, then surely you have another design in your head that we could all be inspired by!!

:)

[Michnet76]

Carl, you can´t hide your profession!!
This is the perfect style!
Thanks for the compliment. Yeah I love working with my hands... I'd like to do it as a job but just can't see a way of making a living doing it, whether it be making models, building furniture/wood items. Last year I made my PC! not kidding, I got sick and tired of beige and plastic cases so figured blow it and design my own case out of wood, well MDF hand laminated with pine. For some pics of the project check it out here: http://www.riverland.net.au/~boehm/finished/index.htm

Adriel:
Looking nice there... I need to get my hands on some depron!!!!!

[Hans-Joachim]

Thanks for the compliment. Yeah I love working with my hands... I'd like to do it as a job but just can't see a way of making a living doing it, whether it be making models, building furniture/wood items. Last year I made my PC! not kidding, I got sick and tired of beige and plastic cases so figured blow it and design my own case out of wood, well MDF hand laminated with pine. For some pics of the project check it out here: http://www.riverland.net.au/~boehm/finished/index.htm

Adriel:
Looking nice there... I need to get my hands on some depron!!!!!

Hi Carl,

that´s a Great Looking PC !!
Carl´s Art Of Wood!
Like your F-16XL !!

[Hans-Joachim]

Thank you Tom, Carl and Thomas.

It was a statement about the F-14 design.

I´ve written, what I´ve read in some other threads before.
When I started this thread, I said to myself, what ever happens,
don´t write words that sounds like this. :rolleyes:

Hey Tom, the F-16 design you have posted into the sticky is the 50 cm (19,7 inc) wingspan, 420g (14,8 oz) design with mixed taileron controls from Stefan Lamers.
A awesome design, but different to 73 cm (28,7 inc) wingspan, 440g (15,5 oz) with aileron and elevator. I think it´s not good to place my plans into this sticky,
because if someone will build the F-16C, the pictures from the online build and the comments are important to finish her. Otherwise I have to do a building instruction and
more details to the plans. :o

Thank you for your friendly words Tom, Carl and Thomas !

I´m flying for my own, not in a club.
LOL, This forum is my club ! :)

Greetings and happy flying
Hans-Joachim

[im-sad]

wow Mich. just goes to show how easy it is to build things on your own. Looks better than any Laptop. Did you make a wooden moniter to>?? Just kidding. :) :P

Hans , you know whats weird.. lots of guys will say "where are the plans"?? but when they get them they dont make it. :) :P too bad tho.

[Hans-Joachim]

OK, I´ll go on designing the F-14 and post the next results this weekend.

It´s still different in construction, maybe interesting to see.

No swinging wings so far.

Greetings
Hans-Joachim

[im-sad]

No worrys . i dont got a fancy raidio , so itll be better with a permanent wing.

[Hans-Joachim]

No worrys . i dont got a fancy raidio , so itll be better with a permanent wing.

Hi,

I think, what I really neat is a picture from you and your rtf F-16C.
So I can hang it on my wall and say:

" Look, this is Adriel from Indonesia.
The first man on earth using
my design and this is his F-16C ! " :)

[im-sad]

Hahaha. Look, this is Adriel from Indonesia.
The first man on earth using
my design and this is his F-16C !

Probly sould change it to the first PROVEN man.....
Personaly im not sure itll fly..
Unless i get myself an BL. But Lets just seee

[Hans-Joachim]

Hahaha.

Probly sould change it to the first PROVEN man.....
Personaly im not sure itll fly..
Unless i get myself an BL. But Lets just seee

Shure, the pictures has to be taken rtf before maiden flight. :)

BL isn´t everything. Have you seen the video from
the F-16C, No.2 with the speed 400
and the black 7x3.5 gws prop on 11.1 V.

[Hans-Joachim]

By the way,

I´ve got my self made lipo-pack back.
Silver-Lot has to be used to get the right connection.

I´ve done one flight with the Pitts Special, now with full house.
Rudder control is important for this bird. Only one flight
because there were gusts of wind.

But I´ve done 3 flight with my F-16.
I´ll count from now on every flight, because of the "electric fallout" yesterday. [ 84 ]

[im-sad]

no i saw the first but i want vert performance. Got to chase all those expensive align f 16s out of the sky.:)
Im gonna maiden my f18 on sunday so if that doesnt work then ill get bl.

[Hans-Joachim]

no i saw the first but i want vert performance. Got to chase all those expensive align f 16s out of the sky.:)
Im gonna maiden my f18 on sunday so if that doesnt work then ill get bl.

Oh yes F-18.
Because of my F-16 adventure, my F-18 (Blue Angles No. 6)
is still waiting for maiden, too.

[im-sad]

Hmmmm :)

[Hans-Joachim]

Adriel,
here is the link to my bird in the F/A-18 Park Jet thread

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3313646&postcount=2723

Page # 182 in the F-18 thread

[im-sad]

So those where yours.. !!! I remember those but didint think that they were yours.
so far I am biulding f 18 f15 f5 f16 and an 4m antonov 225!!! what happend to the f 15s.???

[RCParkflyer]

Sorry Hans-Joachim,

When I was posting the plans for the sticky, all I had listed was F-16, I just assumed they were yours. If you'd like I could post your plans with a link to this thread so everyone interested can download and then read the thread to see your building the jet.

I won't do anything till you give the word.

Tom

[Hans-Joachim]

So those where yours.. !!! I remember those but didint think that they were yours.
so far I am biulding f 18 f15 f5 f16 and an 4m antonov 225!!! what happend to the f 15s.???

The green F-15E (I´ve built together with my son as a glider) is
living on the other side of our street. Her new owner is called
Felix and got her as a present to his 6. birthday some weeks ago.

The gray F-15E is still beside me.
At the time, I´ve built her, I was really a beginner on ailerons.
She was a little bit hot for me. (Typhoon 15/13 and ~580 g)
So I´ve build a new (3.) F-15 with RTF ~340-360g on 2s1p,
Typhoon 6/20, 8x6 slimprop.

I still use her for my 2s1p kokam 1500 lipo pack.

[Hans-Joachim]

Sorry Hans-Joachim,

When I was posting the plans for the sticky, all I had listed was F-16, I just assumed they were yours. If you'd like I could post your plans with a link to this thread so everyone interested can download and then read the thread to see your building the jet.

I won't do anything till you give the word.

Tom


Hi Tom,

hey, no problem!
I was smiling about it! :)

Yes, a link is a good idea!

Greetings to you!
Hans-Joachim

PS: Thank you for the friendly words you have found yesterday!

[Hans-Joachim]

The green F-15E (I´ve built together with my son as a glider) is
living on the other side of our street. Her new owner is called
Felix and got her as a present to his 6. birthday some weeks ago.

The gray F-15E is still beside me.
At the time, I´ve built her, I was really a beginner on ailerons.
She was a little bit hot for me. (Typhoon 15/13 and ~580g)
So I´ve build a new (3.) F-15 with RTF ~340-360g on 2s1p, Typhoon 6/20, 8x6 slimprop.

I use her for my 2s1p kokam 1500 lipo pack.

The big F-15 is my sons school-bird, 99 cm WS ~ 640g Typhoon 15/13,
3s1p. Thust/Weight >/= 1/1

I´ve designed her (It´s jetset44´s design x1,39 and some little modifications to save weight)
for the mission as a school-bird for my son.
She isn´t so quick on the sticks, no jet-like speed, but
a good school bird. (she is still in one piece!)

[RCParkflyer]

Your plans have been posted in the pusher jet sticky. With links back to this thread, I also put in links for pilot photo (and a picture) and the F-16 Thunderbird decals. Last, but not least, I added the XL wing PDF too.

LOL by the time I get done I'll have a whole fleet of F-16's.
I have a flying Styro Microfan kit
the Ultrafly Kit
the Fiberglass kit
and This F-16C Falcon plans
and finally Thomas Nelsons F-16 Minifan plans W/Micro-Retracts

out of 5 maybe I can get a few to fly :eek:

Thanks to everyone!!
:) Tom -in windy Milwaukee

[Hans-Joachim]

Your plans have been posted in the pusher jet sticky. With links back to this thread, I also put in links for pilot photo (and a picture) and the F-16 Thunderbird decals. Last, but not least, I added the XL wing PDF too.

LOL by the time I get done I'll have a whole fleet of F-16's.
I have a flying Styro Microfan kit
the Ultrafly Kit
the Fiberglass kit
and This F-16C Falcon plans
and finally Thomas Nelsons F-16 Minifan plans W/Micro-Retracts

out of 5 maybe I can get a few to fly :eek:

Thanks to everyone!!
:) Tom -in windy Milwaukee

Oh Tom,

thank you, ... I´m smiling, too in this moment!

13 years ago, my wife and me have done a long
journey around the west of the states.

If some day a man, with one wife and two kids are staying in front
of you ( with a camper on the dusty road), and the man ask for a beer,
maybe it´s me!

Hans-Joachim

PS: I´ll hope two F-16´s are rtf at this time ! :)

Sorry three F-16, because Jan-Henrik will be able to fly this bird,
maybe better than we do or can.
So it´s good, you build a few of this great birds

[Hans-Joachim]

.. depending on the wind conditions,
it´s surely a great idea to have different kinds of F-16´s.

It´s an argument.

[RCParkflyer]

We like our beer ice cold here :)

I worked at a brewery for 25 years, but now I am disabled (bad legs) so I should have quite a few jets built this year, and into the future (where I'm going to keep them is another matter LOL, just one small bedroom now) I a few years, I hope to have my grandson flying too :) but that is a way off yet as he is only 3 now.

Cheers!!
Tom - Milwaukee

[Michnet76]

I think, what I really neat is a picture from you and your rtf F-16C. So I can hang it on my wall...:)
Hey don't forget the XL!! It may be a slight modification of the wing and made out of different materials but it's certainly based on your design! Specially the fuse! (granted I added an extra rib or two and made my own rear fuse ribs cause your plans at the time didn't have any!) But in essence it's a re-incarnation of your depron F-16C!! :D :D :p :cool:

[Hans-Joachim]

We like our beer ice cold here :)

I worked at a brewery for 25 years, but now I am disabled (bad legs) so I should have quite a few jets built this year, and into the future (where I'm going to keep them is another matter LOL, just one small bedroom now) I a few years, I hope to have my grandson flying too :) but that is a way off yet as he is only 3 now.

Cheers!!
Tom - Milwaukee

We like our beer cold too!
..mhh, someone has told me, warm beer is better for the stomach!

I can use our attic as a shelter,
but I don´t want to put them in this place.
It´s something like: "Away from the eyes, away from the sense!"

Cheers
Hans-Joachim

[Hans-Joachim]

Hey don't forget the XL!! It may be a slight modification of the wing and made out of different materials but it's certainly based on your design! Specially the fuse! (granted I added an extra rib or two and made my own rear fuse ribs cause your plans at the time didn't have any!) But in essence it's a re-incarnation of your depron F-16C!! :D :D :p :cool:

Hey Mate, how could you think I´ll forget your F-16 XL,
"Your Fine Art In Wood"?

F-14 is going on tonight. ? What would we do first?
A pusher or minifan version?

[Michnet76]

LOL!!.... minifan would ne nice!

[Hans-Joachim]

LOL!!.... minifan would ne nice!

OK, I´ll place one in the middle between the intakes, as a center tank or so!

[Hans-Joachim]

Hey don't forget the XL!! It may be a slight modification of the wing and made out of different materials but it's certainly based on your design! Specially the fuse! (granted I added an extra rib or two and made my own rear fuse ribs cause your plans at the time didn't have any!) But in essence it's a re-incarnation of your depron F-16C!! :D :D :p :cool:

Carl,

some news about the upside finish?

Looking at your new Avatar, the Golden XL looks very nice.

A little bit like James Bond´s "Gold Finger"!

[Michnet76]

yeah, started covering the nose last night... not sure how much I'll get done tonight as I have contracted the flu, been trying to dodge it all week but it's finally gotten to me. Went to doc's this arvo and he told me to stay home and rest... I wonder if working on R/C planes is rest?? ;-)

[Hans-Joachim]

yeah, started covering the nose last night... not sure how much I'll get done tonight as I have contracted the flu, been trying to dodge it all week but it's finally gotten to me. Went to doc's this arvo and he told me to stay home and rest... I wonder if working on R/C planes is rest?? ;-)

I think it´s ok as long as you don´t inhale too much glue :D
But maybe it´s helpfull. A friend of me is a doctor, I´ll ask. ;)

[Michnet76]

yeah I'm feeling pretty rundown tonight, just watched an hour of simpsons and something about raymond or whatever... watching TV makes me feel pretty ordinary afterwards at the best of times, I hate having to sit still for so long!! My favourite viewing is sitting down to a documentary DVD or the likes and working on a model!! Just finished watching Discovery channel's F-16 and F-14 doco's, pretty cool stuff! Got their SR-71 DVD sitting there to watch at some stage too... then there's always the pentagon channel if there's nothing else to watch, but that gets boring if you keep watching it every night as they just repeat stuff so I only visit it every couple of weeks in which time they've usually updated the content!

I gotta go to Adelaide (state capital city) tomorrow, not sure how that's going to go (3 hours drive east)... dose myself up on ibrufen and caffiene!! Planning to visit some hobby shops on saturday morning so I'll see what goodies I can find... last visit I walked out with a GWS B-2 for under half price! Plus I should grab another roll of white So-Lite film just incase I run out whilst doing the top of the XL - nothing worse then running out of something and you know you can't get ahold of it for a while!!! Might also have to have a harder look and see if anyone's got any depron or equivalent product in yet!!

Anyway I've dribbled enough for one post... I'm off to bed! (D'OH! it's only 9pm)

[Hans-Joachim]

yeah I'm feeling pretty rundown tonight, just watched an hour of simpsons and something about raymond or whatever... watching TV makes me feel pretty ordinary afterwards at the best of times, I hate having to sit still for so long!! My favourite viewing is sitting down to a documentary DVD or the likes and working on a model!! Just finished watching Discovery channel's F-16 and F-14 doco's, pretty cool stuff! Got their SR-71 DVD sitting there to watch at some stage too... then there's always the pentagon channel if there's nothing else to watch, but that gets boring if you keep watching it every night as they just repeat stuff so I only visit it every couple of weeks in which time they've usually updated the content!

I gotta go to Adelaide (state capital city) tomorrow, not sure how that's going to go (3 hours drive east)... dose myself up on ibrufen and caffiene!! Planning to visit some hobby shops on saturday morning so I'll see what goodies I can find... last visit I walked out with a GWS B-2 for under half price! Plus I should grab another roll of white So-Lite film just incase I run out whilst doing the top of the XL - nothing worse then running out of something and you know you can't get ahold of it for a while!!! Might also have to have a harder look and see if anyone's got any depron or equivalent product in yet!!

Anyway I've dribbled enough for one post... I'm off to bed! (D'OH! it's only 9pm)

Last not least, take a look at "under wallpaper" in a bigger Building market

[im-sad]

Well , I half melted my canopy trying to vacuform it. Ill put filler on and make a new one. :(
So whats new Hans??

[Hans-Joachim]

Carl,

have you seen this


http://www.depron-australia.com/

[Michnet76]

Can't sleep...

Carl,
have you seen this
http://www.depron-australia.com/

Yeah looked at it a while ago... works out to be pretty expensive material unless you order heaps but even then it's not a cheap item like you guys can get it.

[Hans-Joachim]

Well , I half melted my canopy trying to vacuform it. Ill put filler on and make a new one. :(
So whats new Hans??


Try to get a heat shrink sleeve and use a heat gun.

[im-sad]

I used a gun but thats what melted it, im gonna fiberglass and make a mold for it.
EDIT:
changed my mind. im gonna just make a new one and hollow it. or repair this and hollow it.

[Hans-Joachim]

Carl,

you will need some depron! :)

[Hans-Joachim]

Hey Adriel,

think positiv!

[im-sad]

Hahaha . Dont worry. Im Thinkin + and more +++++++++++++.
Its just if i make a smily face it wont fit the words " Im sad" :) :D :p
I decided to try and fiberglass my canopy. waiting to dry.

[im-sad]

Wow thats expensive(depron foam) mitch. Mayby i can get you a 2mx1mx5 sheet for 50.000 rupiahs. about $5 US. :)

[Hans-Joachim]

Hi Everybody,

I proudly present my new F-14A Tomcat.
(A little bit dirty because I have attached the garden pump)

73 cm ws,
130 cm long,

The weight is 190g
(depron and some Uhu por)

Greetings
Hans-Joachim

PS: Carl, I hope you see it, before you drive to Adelaide,
to look better for some depron.
3 and 6 mm :)

[Hans-Joachim]

One more picture from behind. The place for the servos.

[Hans-Joachim]

Here is one picture for the other inlet side.