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David A Ramsey
Feb 13, 2005, 06:36 PM
You can get rid of the Xacto blades and planes, but you're gonna need a table saw and a router table. A band saw will work in place of the table saw, but not as nice a cut as a triple chip 80 tooth carbide blade.

To hold the balsa blade blanks, I use a piece of oak as long and high, or a bit longer and higher than the blank. The width of this piece should be 4" to 6" so you can maintain a good grip as you guide the holding fixture against the fence while riping the two major blade angles. For my right tilt table saw I cut on the left side.

You can build up the thickness for the blade holding fixture by laminating some clear 3/4" pine and then trim square.

To hold the blade blanks to the fixture, I use double face crape tape. I use a new piece for every cut. A balsa blank is lined up along the bottom edge of the fixture. After a cut the blank is carefully lifted off the tape. The balsa fibers that transfer to the tape are minor, but make the piece of tape unsafe to hold another blank.

Two angles are cut, leading and trailing edge. Draw a cross section of the airfoil on a piece of paper and determine the high point, usually 25 - 30 percent. measure the angle at the leading and trailing edge curve tangents and set the saw blade angle. I make a test cut to make sure of the angle. Cut all blanks for one angle, reset the saw angle and cut the other.

To finish the airfoil I use some small bit of double face tape to hold the blade to a firm surface and block sand to final shape. As the major shape is done on the table saw, it's easier to final sand to a consistant shape for each blade.

Blade holder and weight slots are cut on a router table. I'll have to get a picture of that later.

The best double face tape, for this purpose, is available from McMaster-Carr Supply Co. www.mcmaster.com The general part number is 76405A"00". The last 2 numbers depend on the tape width.

For flat bottomed blades this works quite well.

Do I need to say; Keep you hands clear of the saw blade and don't stand in line with the object you're cutting on the table saw ???

David

mnowell129
Feb 13, 2005, 06:48 PM
Good ideas. Thanks for the post.
I keep wondering if I could get some airfoil shaped router table blades...

David A Ramsey
Feb 13, 2005, 07:41 PM
Hey Mickey; I've had carbide router cutters made to shapes I've wanted. Usually around $75.00 a piece. Router cutters are ok for the small profiles, but for larger sizes you'd want "shaper" cutters which are more expensive. The table saw method can give a variety of the two major angles for just about any flat bottomed profile section. Could even make blades with 5" to 6" cords.

Unsanded, they look like flat bottomed Jadelski airfoils. I'm wondering how well they might perform in that shape.

mnowell129
Feb 13, 2005, 10:19 PM
Yea, I've looked at machines that make molding with lust. Just can't justify. I'm quick enough with a razor plane that I can rough a blade out it 5 minutes anyway so its hard for me to justify anything. The aerobalsa.com blades work for me anyway.
Did multiple loops with the razor 400 powered G3PO today in windy and calm conditions. Also flew continuous circles in the street as practice.
Making sure I can fly the darn thing in two weeks at spring hill.
I have two operational aircraft now, the tractor and the pusher. Funny how differently they fly.
mickey

iter
Feb 14, 2005, 12:01 AM
I have two operational aircraft now, the tractor and the pusher. Funny how differently they fly.
What are the differences in handling?

Ari

mnowell129
Feb 14, 2005, 08:48 AM
The tractor has very good ground handling and is very easy to take off. It is very stable in yaw and pitch even though it doesn't have an elevator. Even though it is shorter it seems more stable in roll as well.
The pusher is much more sensitive to throttle changes. Is less roll and pitch stable. And runs out of rudder authority with the motor off. The tractor is easy to glide with no motor and keeps itself going straight. The pusher will
tend to turn itself with the motor off.
The pusher is a pain to get off the ground in the current configuration. I will try to fix this after the fly in but I'm not messing with it now.
The additional height of the pusher makes it more "busy" to fly, the pendulum effect being destabilizing. The tractor basically goes where you point it. ( as far a a gyrocopter will...)
mickey

David A Ramsey
Feb 14, 2005, 01:24 PM
Such idle chit chat.

Here's a picture of the router set up for blade holders.

The dark colored wood is 1/2" MDF particle board and has a small fence of the same material glued to that. The important part here is to fully support the blade as it passes over the router bit. As I'm using a 3/8" straight bit, I drill a 3/8" hole in the fixture base with a drill press for the router bit and then add the small fence that will make a slot in the blade at the 25 percent point of my blade on center. I use multiple strips of 1" wide double face tape to hold this fixture to the acrylic surface on my router table.

This fixture needs to be firmly held in place. Now this is important too: Do not turn on the router till you confirm manually that the router bit turns smoothly in the fixture hole! Turn the router output shaft to be sure the bit doesn't catch on the fixture. Worst case; The fixture will fly off the router table!

As you're working close to the router bit: REMEMBER; The slot goes into the wood, not your finger!

I use wood block stops held with double face tape to limit the length of cuts.

For tip weight slots I shim out the fence for the new slot distance and use a 1/8" straight bit for 1/16" dia. solder. The 1/8" bit uses the 3/8" hole and still gives good support for the blade.

Balsa blades offer very little resistance to a router bit, but you still need to keep a firm grip on your balsa blade. I wear snug fitting latex gloves to keep a grip and stay in control.

karakoram
Sep 26, 2006, 08:42 PM
great thread and pictures. I am currently building a huge flying wing called the Mothership (83" span), and it has HUGE balsa elevons that are about 3/8 constant thickness, and about 4 or 5 inches wide at thier widest chord. I was unhappily contemplating doing a ton of orbital sanding to get them to an airfoil shape. I just HAPPENED accross your thread, and I also happen to have a table saw with a finishing blade, so now I have a huge time saving way to airfoil my elevons!

Thank you!