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FallingWithStyle
Jan 02, 2005, 05:31 PM
Yes, g2, not g3. :(

I'm trying to model the Hell Raiser in G2. Its a 13-14oz foam bi-plane. I've entered all of the dimensions for the plane taken from my actual model. I had to create a new motor entry for an AXI 2208/34 and I used the actual spec sheet to set the parameters. The AXI docs don't specify kT but a value of 2 gives the plane the pep that I've experienced. The cg is at 3.5" as recommended.

So my model simulates climb and axis rates pretty accurately. However, I can't get good simulation of the HR's low speed high alpha stability or its knife edge capability. The plane simply tip stalls and snaps violently when the plane slows down or when I enter knife edge and try to push the nose skyward with the rudder.

I've experimented with all of the symmetrical airfoils for the main wings but only the fattest naca 0016+ allow any slow flight at all. G2 can't handle a real flat slab main wing at all. I think I've got an accurate sweep back setting of 9.5 degrees. Incidence is at 0 for both wings just because I can't see any real angle on the actual model.

So any aero engineers out there that can help me get the g2 model to behave? What parameters are effecting these stalls during knife edge and slow speeds?

Thanks
Clark

noodle
Jan 02, 2005, 06:00 PM
First of all, I'm no aero engineer. From my experience, though, Realflight G2 just doesn't have real 3D performance. The only way I can get good high-alpha is to get a really low wing loading (2-3 ounces per Sq. Ft. for a "large" airplane). Remember, G2 can't exactly replicate any airplane. Have you entered any washout? That will help if you don't care about inverted stuff. Oh, and by the way, go with the NACA 0020. :D

noodle

vitek
Jan 02, 2005, 11:07 PM
I can't get good simulation of the HR's low speed high alpha stability or its knife edge capability.

G2 does not model prop wash and from what I understand this is a requirement for doing high alpha flight.

Travis

FallingWithStyle
Jan 03, 2005, 12:56 AM
I went back and was more careful with the weights and brought the loading down to 4.5 oz/sqft. I also went to the NACA 0020. That helped alot. Thanks
Clark