Bigger Blackburn Bucc!

[bipeflyer]

Am venturing into a new project from today. Just enlarged my Buccaneer plans,originally for 400 size pushers up to 600 size motors.

I plan to use a Mega 22-20-4 brushless with 3S Irate 2600 in parallel.
The model is a much nicer size now, and will create an opportunity to go 'more scale' with detailing and wing sections (as opposed to flat plate)

Will still be bungee launched, but on the plus side, should be very fast in the air.

I haven't been modelling for nearly a year, so this will help ease me back in again!

Will be good to have a blown transparent canopy on this one, so some nice canopy detailing will be incorporated.

I'll post pictures as I go.

Thanks for looking! :)

Matt

[pontious]

Thanks Matt,I will follow with interest.Glad to see you are back in circulation.
Missed you at Woodspring,
TERRY.

[eatond]

Hi Matt,
good to see you getting back into it. Funny thing is I've looked over the copy of your Buccaneer plans I have and that's always the first thought I have. Blow it up bigger. How much larger are you making them? I'll be watching this one with interest.

Dan Eaton

[bipeflyer]

Hi Terry, yes, shame I couldn't get to Woodsprings, but am going in 2005! :)

Dan,it is perfect for enlargement, I enlarged to 125%, nice size now,even if it's fast, will still be able to see it! :D

Should be fun trying anyway...;)

Matt

[eatond]

Hi Matt,
speaking of Buccaneers, I couldn't sleep the other night and caught this program called "Tycoon's Toy's" or something on cable. There's a guy in South Africa with a hanger full of jets and his pride and joy is his Lightning. His buddy hangers his Buccaneer there too so I got to see both flying if only on the small screen.

Dan Eaton

[bipeflyer]

Do you mean these guys Dan?
http://www.incredible-adventures.com/capetown2.html
Definitely a Tycoon's toy!

Matt

[bipeflyer]

Try this screensaver, it's free,download the 'Wings over Cape Town' offering,it's very good.:)
http://www.incredible-adventures.com/screensavers.html

[eatond]

Hi Matt,
yep, them's the guys. Must be nice to have that much spare change. :)

Dan Eaton

[monkamarm2000]

great Matt! I love mine! only flew it 2 times so far but it's a blast. And I would appreciate the larger size cause I went scale on mine and it was a bit tough in the smaller format. Still have my mongram model though so I can do scale details on a larger on if so desired. Cant wait to see it.

Barry

[MartinF]

Matt, I'm new to the world of jets and was just wondering if you had considered an EDF version or if you knew of anyone else who had done an EDF/ jet version of the Bucc? I imagine there would be many challenges to an EDF version?

[bipeflyer]

Martin- Terry Mitchell (post above,pontious) built one from foam for twin EDF, it flies excellently, his avatar shows his Bucc in flight.

I am staying with the pusher format for simplicity.:)


Barry, was wondering what happened with yours, got any pics/details please? Would love to see more!

Matt

[MartinF]

Matt, Found Terry's build thread for his Bucc. What an amazing model built by an amazing modeller!! Inspirational! Did you ever manage to clean up the video that you took of his bucc??

Good luck with your Bucc and look forward to seeing the pictures.

Martin

[monkamarm2000]

yeah matt I'll get some pics together of it. Just got it to primer stage but need to finish it off. It looks so good in the air. The pusher is a great hand toss easy to deal with setup too, although I am tempted here and there to cut up the mongram and make a larger EDF type setup, I think with todays cells and motors a pants style inlet outlet wouldndt be to bad to do, especially on the bucc since they could be evenly laid out.

Barry

[bipeflyer]

Martin, couldn't do anymore with the video I'm afraid, but trust me, it flies brilliantly!

Barry, yes please with the photos..a bigger EDF wouldn't be too hard,as you say, there are plent of good fan/motor/battery systems these days, would be relatively simple, so I await to see how things develop with you. :)

I'll stick with my pusher for now :D

Matt

[MartinF]

Matt, I was so impressed by what I could see of the video I've gone and ordered a set of drawings and bought a foam cutter on ebay!! Who knows maybe in about 10 years I'll end up with something that flies, or extra loft insulation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Martin

[monkamarm2000]

I did mine out of foam Martin, was cool cause I could tailer the scale a bit, and I used some FF so it's paper light. With the Mega 16/15/6 on the back and a 7x5 prop it scooots! and has unlimited vertical

[eatond]

Hi Matt,
The holidays are over so have you made any progress? :)

Dan Eaton

[Geecee]

Hi Matt

Finally got round to registering and saw your post ref the big Bucc. I managed to cut out the patterns for the original one but have not had chance to build.

Keep me informed please ref the bigger one - my clumsy digits may be better suited at larger scale

Gary

[pontious]

Hi Martin,
Here is a link to the vid. of my Buccaneers Maiden flight.I hope you have broadband.
Good luck with yours .
terry.www.tmitchel.rchomepage.com

[monkamarm2000]

finally got some pics together on mine. Not that happy about the finish though. It's just paint on Fan Fold, but it's light. Now that I know how it will come out, if I did it again, I would give it a layer of .56 or .75 cloth for a nicer and stronger finish.

[monkamarm2000]

exscuse the mess! lol That was a day of some serious foam carving for another project. I am also have about half the decals scanned for this model too, pretty detailed collection from a number of different varients. When I get the time I will clean them up and test the settings on some good paper to check them out.

Barry

[MartinF]

Pontious, I'll let you know how I get on. I'm trying to find a local source for the foam as having it delivered seems full of risk of damage etc!!!! I assume blue foam would work just as well?? Also just to check the scale, you enlarged the original drawing x4, what wing span did that give? I make it 112.4cm but I'm not sure if my original is a little under size?

Barry, nice Bucc, how much bigger than Matt's original is it?

Martin

[GregG]

That is looking SuhWeeeeet Barry! :cool:

What battery pack are you using? How many amps?

[pontious]

Correct Martin,this size was the minimum to accomodate the minifans.
The key to a low weight & good flight was to use only one E.S.C.and one flight pack.
I got a reasonable & light finish using tissue % water soluable varnish.
Terry

[monkamarm2000]

Actually using 10 Kan 1050's in it, amps are around 12 I think, and flight time is good for regular cells. A nice small Lipo pack would be great in it.


Barry

[monkamarm2000]

Oh and Martin, mine is the sized as per Matts plan

[MartinF]

Terry, Hadn't noticed before that your paint scheme was for HMS Eagle nice to see the more capable ship remembered when most only think of the HMS Ark Royal! I think it may have been mentioned on your build thread, but did you use LiPo's?

Barry, guess the small table made it look abit bigger!!!!!!!!!

[pontious]

Yes Martin I`ve always had a soft spot for the Eagle.Lipo`s were not available when I built it & the cost would have been a problem. I used 12X3000 `s.(3300`s not available then.)
Lipo`s would certainly give it a terrific performance now.
By the way, Blue is fine,or Pink or Orange.(Foam).
BARRY---LOOKING GOOD.cant wait for your flight report,GOOD LUCK.
Terry.

[St. Martin]

Barry, try the /5. I used it in the F-16 pusher. With a 7-5E on 8-1050kans and also on 10-1050's and a 6-5.5. The latter gave 165W at only 12.5A draw. 8 cells and 7-5 was 14A@115W. I fly at a smaller field as well as a huge one. The 8cell set up works great at the small field. The 10 cell requires a little more throw, but is much faster after getting "on step".

Steve

[monkamarm2000]

Knowing the wieght and how fast of a model it is, I agree the 5T would suit it much better, it's really quite a fast bird. I went with the 6T cause I had it extra from my sonic liner, and I wanted to make sure if it wasnt fast, it would still have plenty of pull. It is fun though to go accelerate striaght up though, and at 6T on this thing with 10 cells, it flies like that for a solid 8 minutes on the regular cells.

Barry

[bipeflyer]

OK, for those wondering what happened to this bigger Bucc, I have just started tracing out the parts from the plan, I already have the wood in stock, so can proceed right away. Sorry it took so long to get around to it, but it's happening now!

More later,

Matt

[bipeflyer]

Well, proof the project has begun-I just cut all these parts out, a few more to do, then begin assembly.
Am thinking that it would be cool to have working tail cone split airbrakes on the rear fuse, and the motor mounted futher inboard the airframe, thus giving me the opportunity to use a carbon extension shaft and allow me to make the airbrakes.
All will become clearer later in the build!

Moderator, this is a pusher, so would you kindly move this thread which was started in the old days of one single jet column. ;)

Much obliged,

Matt

[Geecee]

Hi Matt

Hope you managed to read my other few comments in some of the other threads. I only got round to cutting paper for the smaller Bucc - family and money restraints along with time to build was just not there. Getting back in and am v interested in the bigger version. I notice the wing is similar in the pic - are you planning a sectioned wing? Will you just supply plans for this? - I believe my son's school has a laser cutter so any cad type file could be useful. How about a rotating bomb bay so it could scatter the Wing Commanders luggage in flight as one Bucc pilot did on his way home from detachment!!! Count me in for a plan ( also for the pusher cat too!)

Regards

Gary

[bipeflyer]

Hi Gary,no CAD files I'm afraid, is all hand drawn only, unless anyone out there is kind enough to offer a conversion of my hand drawn plans to CAD? :)

Probably not... anyway, am going ahead with this one, I've been sketching how I can make the tail speed brakes split, plus will put in 2 servos as flapperons, so when landing, I will be able to split the rear brakes and have flaps.

Should fly great. Am going to cut the wings from 3/8th balsa now, and profile them before installing them, should look and work fine. I was going to use foam wings with balsa veneer, would be better, but sheer laziness is preventing me!
Am definitely going to use a clear moulded canopy, and the 'motor' tubes carved from blue foam will have a scale outline, unlike the smaller version.

Thanks,

Matt

[Geecee]

Thanks Matt

We have a guy just started at work who is a wiz with Solidworks cad. I am learning a little from him as I am trying to design a Vigilante the Steve Shumate way. If you have the drawings and can get them into a computer then a handy free program called Win Topo can convert them to cad files - i just tried them on a 3 view of said Vigilante and they are very good. Any way still up for a set when you can.

regards

Gary

[Matt Halton]

Hi Gary, sounds useful-do you have a link to download Win Topo? Can't find it on Google?
Also, I can only get a .pdf scan done, which is difficult to import into CAD. Let me know if your friend is able to do that!
I wil have another update for you Monday evening.

Matt

[Geecee]

Matt, I will e-mail you a copy from home tonight. At the moment I can not convert pdfs into cad but am working on it. There are converters out there but most are a little expensive.

Gary

[Matt Halton]

Thanks Gary, look forward to it.

Have been busy, cut all the wing plate parts, and part assembled the fuse. Pre dampened and shaped the fuse sides before gluing in formers to create the coke bottle shape characteristic of the Bucc.

Doesn't look too great in these pics, but will look a lot better very soon.

Anyway, it's coming! :)

Matt

[Geecee]

Looking good Matt

Gary

[Spe1715]

Win Topo (http://www.wburrows.demon.co.uk/softsoft/wintopo/index.htm)

[Matt Halton]

These views show the current state of affairs. The wings are butt glued now, and test fitted. I need to cut out the ailerons, and plane/sand to a symmetrical section, which will undoubtedly shed a lot of weight!

The forward fuse is panelled below the canopy area with 1/4 sheet balsa,and awaiting planing. I have built the nose cone frame from liteply,and have started to plan with 3/32" balsa along with the upper rear fuse.

I intend to fit the elevator servo next with the wire in tube push rod through the fin,and then mount the motor inside the fuse.
Then I will make the foam parts and fit after planking is completed.

Lots to do, but starting to take shape!

Thanks for the link Spe1715 ;)

Gary, you better get your scalpel sharpened! :)

Matt

[Geecee]

B'hell Matt - If only I could build that quick! I better get the foamy F15 finished and count the pennies in the piggy bank - Sandown approaches and no doubt I will need a power train for a Bucc.
Did you get the e-mail with the program and pic by the way?

Regards

Gary

[Geecee]

oops sorry failed to load pic

[Geecee]

Just an indulgence - here is one of the 6 or so "big toys" I got to play with a few years ago

[Matt Halton]

No, but think you may have set it to the wrong address? I don't want to expose my email address on here because of spammers, but I no longer you the planeplans email, did you send it via my one tel address?

I have a couple of days off work here, so am getting as much as I can done. I want to fly it this summer! :D

Try resending the pic again.

Right, more planking to do....

Matt

Are you definitely going to build the enlarged Bucc then? You will need brushless power! ( You could use brushed, but motor life is poor, then the bloody glitches hit your rx undoing yiour hard work prematurely!)

[Geecee]

Matt - I sent to the "blue y" address - must be wrong then - didnt get bounced though. Oh well the post with the Win Topo link should get you what I sent anyway. I certainly will build the Bucc - can you let me know your advice on which motor so I can be ready for when you release the plans.

Might have to come and watch it fly - I am not that far away.

Gary

[Matt Halton]

Dave, I'm using a Mega 22/20/4, 7x6 prop, 5s lipo....35 amps....19k...72.6oz of thrust,107 pitch speed.I have a 40 Amp Jeti ESC to use.

So, will have to shell out more dough to buy the Lipo's now :( But at least, they are getting cheaper, and much higher capacity. Gee, wonder if I'll get bored of long flights or not? ;)

You are welcome to come along Dave, no idea when it will be, but will let you know nearer the time.

Nice pic BTW! :D When were you playing with these then?

[Geecee]

Mat you dont remember me sending the Bucc, Hunter and Canberra pics a while ago when I bought the small Bucc plans? I was at RAF Honington twice 1975 to 77 and again 1982 to 84. I was on 237 OCU that had Buccs and Hunters. I still fly from Honington it is one of 3 flying sites our club has - unfortunately no aircraft there now, it is a RAF Regiment base, although there is still a gate gaurdian Bucc. We used to have 12, 208, 237 OCU and 809 Navy Buccs in when the Ark Royal was in dock. 30 or more Buccs on the pan at one time. The pic is one of my old squadron aircraft - I must have fixed this one many times in my time on the OCU!

Regards

Gary

[Matt Halton]

Hi Gary, yes sorry mate, was a while back, and my PC has crahed (wiped out HD) a few times since then! :o

Anyway, have been busy on and off with it today, planked a little more of the nose, have also cut the blue foam blanks, as I can't get along with anymore fuse planking until the Topaz servos I ordered today arrive..

The fun part yet to come, external shaping the foam and hollowing out after (all that mess) I hope the weather is ok when I do it, would rather that mess was in my garden really!

Starting to evolve into a Buccaneer now I think! :)

Matt

[Geecee]

Matt Looking good now. I see you are going the blue foam way with this one - its good to work with. I have carved a few canopies out of pink foam and they are pretty good with a few coats of water based varnish. Have you decided on a finish yet RAF or Navy? or even black South African? Will wait patiently for next installment

Gary

[Matt Halton]

That's a hard one Gary- can't decide. My smaller one was Royal Navy, but am thinking maybe RAF with this one, any suggestions?
Have used blue and pink foam a lot, it's great stuff to use, but generally prefer wood. It makes a nice combination for the Bucceneer however :)

Matt

[Geecee]

Well I am biased towards the RAF but there were some other schemes - Desert Storm camoflage - Boscombe's raspberry ripple colours or the blue and yellow (or was it black/yellow) odd squared version. Take your pic but whatever you choose I am sure it will look good.

Gary

[Matt Halton]

Hmmm....now thinking of making an all flying tail. I have some carbon tube and alum tube, if I can get a good fit with the stuff I have I think I will do that.
My servos arrived from eflight today, only ordered them yest. pm! :)
Now can crack on with it. Anyone know where to buy some PETG or similar on line? Can't find mine since I moved, so need to aquire more, and the place I bought mine from locally don't have it anymore..

Well, gonna sit here and figure out the servo mounting and intenal motor mounting issues before I continue.
I want to go for a decent scale finish with this one, plus full compliment of cockpit detail with 'crew' figures.

Anyway, got some nice pics to share, these I find very inspirational!

Matt ( back on it tomorrow)

[Geecee]

Matt - One more for the album

[Frenche]

One that I found

[Matt Halton]

Very nice pic there Frenche, thanks!
Well, more done today. Nose planked/sanded,with nose tip block sanded flush too.
Blue foam 'tubes' sanded,cut a groove in the fin to accept some Bowden cable plastic outer tube. Both sides then covered with 1/16" balsa sheet, and left to cure under some very heavy (aviation :)) books.
A lot of sanding done generally, am in a position now to start making the elevator servo mount then hook up to elevator (can't be bothered with the all flying tail idea now)

Took a few pics to show progress. Hope you like 'em!

Matt

[Matt Halton]

Finally, a full view, looks better after a good old sanding session!

More tomorrow I hope.

Matt

[pontious]

Looking great Matt, are you going to Bickley next weekend?
Regards,
Terry.

[Geecee]

Really looking the part now Matt - Hurry and get it finished,painted,flown and plans released - I want one!!!!

Gary

[Frenche]

Very nice pic there Frenche, thanks!
Matt

Yeah I like it to (it's now my background), especially the caption which said "11feet, 500 knots" :eek: . Man some people know how to have fun :p :p

[Matt Halton]

Thanks gents! :)
Yes Terry am going to Bickley. My girlfriend and I are camping for 2 days- should be a laugh!
Looking forward to seeing you and Bob there. Ron can't make it and Chris Golds has a hand injury, but will be fun anyway.
Wish I had started building this model before so I could take it with me..oh well, I have my mini pusher F-14, and a new SAAB Gripen pusher.( Thanks Steve!)
You bringing your big Bucc? See you there, I'll be there maybe Fri night or Sat am.

Gary, I will let you have a plan free once done, your'e doing the plan beta build mate! :D

Frenche, some people had all the fun didn't they,imagine having a job like that.

Anyway, was hoping to do more this weekend, but other things have come up, will be on it again Monday...

I will get a chance to fly my first Bucc at Bickley btw. I haven't personally flown it at all yet, but Rich Vale who owns it now, says it is rock steady stable, and compares it's flying qualities with that ic powered 'Magnum' ....Familiar? He says it's his favourite model, so am interested in getting the chance to finally pilot it myself!

Cheers,

Matt

[pontious]

Hi Mat,
I was booked in for three nights in my old V.W. Camper,BUT I now find myself on the jury for a long trial at Bristol Crown Court which will not finish until after the weekend.I should be there P.M. Sat.I`ll bring some beer.
Had to take the gear out of the Bucc. for the Lightning,(Poor pensioner)havn`t flown that since WOODSPRING.
Wendy is now fully recovered from her Chemo.& is looking forward to a weekend away.Will have to bring something easy to fly as I`m out of practice.
All the best,
Ter & Wend.

[Matt Halton]

I can't get there until Sat.pm Terry,but can't wait to get there nevertheless!
Great to hear Wendy is recovered,that is good news indeed.I'd send the guy down in court for ruining your plans! ;)

Should be a fun weekend though! :)

No udates on the Bucc today chaps,was working all last night, and just felt too tired to build today. Besides, the weather is lovely, so relaxed in my garden with a nice drink.
I will be spending all day tomorrow on the Bucc, will try and get some servos in and the canopy hatch and canopy plug carved ready for moulding. Should look further advanced next time you look in.

Cheers,

Matt

[Geecee]

Hi Matt
Its been a good weekend for just doing the chilling bit - I dont blame you. I have spent some time designing my first ever model its a park fly A5 Vigilante. I have most of it down on paper now so should be able to cut depron soon.
Thanks for the "volunteer" for the Bucc beta build - would be a pleasure providing you can put up with a slowish build!! I dont mind chipping in for the plans if needed.
Where is Bickley btw is it the one near Biggin Hill? and can anyone go as a spectator? I might be able to get there on Saturday. Ok back to the A5 drawings - look forward to next installment of the Bucc build

regards

Gary

[monkamarm2000]

cool stuff matt, and theres the only prob with the new forum! I forget to check over here!

Barry

[Matt Halton]

Hi Barry, glad you checked in mate, yes, does cause some problems I guess with a forum split, but you caught up in the end! :)

Gary, I will try and send you a link on a map to the site, yes, just tell them you are a mate of mine,and are helping out, you won't get hassle, they are a very friendly bunch at Bickley! Will sort the map tomorrow, it's near Swanley in Kent. Will be great to see ya :)

Ok, here is another update- I have carved the canopy master plug for clear vacuum moulding, came out well, still needs some finishing. Also made the upper forward hatch, not quite finished with the sanding yet.
Have installed the elevator servo and rod, just need to add the horns.I can then glue permanently to the fuse, then finish fitting the flaperon servos,sort the motor mount solder stuff (yuk) then plank the bugger ;)

Can't wait to see how the canopy pans out! No probs how long Gary, your'e welcome to a drawing.

More tomorrow! :D

Matt

[Matt Halton]

Last one for today, my shiny (?) new canopy plug. Needs prepping before moulding.
And good luck with the RA-5 Gary, don't forget pics when you build ok?

Matt

[Geecee]

Cheers Matt - much appreciated.

I hope to be able to get to Bickley - who knows may have my F15 parky finished - anyone volunteer for the maiden??? I am a bit rusty as flying goes , kids seem to eat up all my spare time nowadays. The way things are going you will have the Bucc in a flyable condition by then!!!!

Gary

[Matt Halton]

Hey Gary, I'll test fly it for you! Bring it to Bickley, no problem :)
Latest on the build front....I have permanently glued the fin, tailplane and strake in place, the elevator is hooked up and working, still need to sand the elev. TE.Also cut the upper fairing over the tailplane from 3/8th sheet, waiting for shaping.

I used some kevlar sheet, about 1/64 th thick, but very strong for the elevator horn and elevator joiner, very strong.

Shaped up the rear end of the hatch some more,done some surface prep on the canopy plug. Found some A4 PETG today in the local art shop...was only .70 each, so bought 6 of them!!! (lots of spares) I have ordered some more sheets too, so can mould the mini F-14 canopies too :)

I know it's boring, doesn't seem to change much, but it is getting there.Won't be doing anymore until next Monday (due to work and away at the weekend) but hope to pull a canopy tomorrow, if it's any good I'll post a picture for you.

Cheers,

Matt

[monkamarm2000]

I wish I had done a removable canopy on my foamy Bucc, cause it was from foam and came out so light, I have to shove the cells all the way up to the nose through the bottom hatch.

Barry

[Geecee]

Looking good now Matt - it looks like 50/50 that I can get to Bickley but will try especially if I finish the F15. Do you have directions from the M25? and is there a fee to get in?

Barry - reminds me of when I worked on full size ones - had to shove myself up through the bottom hatch to get to the avionics!!! lol

Gary

[Matt Halton]

Gary, here are details of how to get there.You should try to come, it is a great meeting! No fee to get in, you only need an 'A' cert or higher to fly and BMFA membership.Bring the F-15, get finishing! :)

Am going to try a canopy pull today,will post details later.

Matt

Use www.mapquest.co.uk to find your way, enter 'Sutton at Hone' as the destination.

See you there!

[monkamarm2000]

LOL Gary!


Barry

[pontious]

Campers loaded,off to Bickley, finished jury service,food beer & wine loaded,Oh dam, forgot the planes!!!!!
Terry.

[geoff.sim]

I shall be there tomorrow.

btw. JEPE says he has had to skip Bickley this year.

Geoff.

[Matt Halton]

Hi Terry, was a great weekend-never mind the camping! :eek:
Nice to meet you and Wendy,Tracey enjoyed herself both of your company,and as you said, was a good bonding excercise!! :)

Jim Beam dissapeared all too quickly,was loads of fun. Didn't get any flying done,but that was mainly on account of the wind, my head and acute lack of sleep...

Broke a fin off the F-14 putting it in the car, but no biggie.Hope you had a safe journey home!

Gary, too bad mate, looks like the missus has to go! ;) Maybe you can get to another meeting, they really are great fun.:)

Good to see you too Geoff,the Cat is looking quite splendid, keep going!

I have moulded a canopy today, came out very nicely, now have to carve 2 foam crew figures to compliment it,the downside of clear canopy moulding eh? :)

Anyway, am doing a little more work now before posting update pics,getting the thing together slowly.

Later,

Matt :D

[Matt Halton]

Here are the pics. Pleased with the results so far, canopy came out very well.Has only gained 1/2 oz with the canopy and blue foam decking! :)

I have another day to build again tomorrow, so hopefully more will be done.;)

Matt

[Geecee]

Hi Matt

yes could have kicked myself for missing - oh well please let me know of any other good meets!
The Bucc is looking fantastic now - jealous of your canopy though - I made a small vac former but have had no luck with it. I have been trying to do a canopy for the F15 to replace the carved foam one but I can not find the correct plastic anywhere.I have tried pop bottles and acetate with no luck. Local model shop says use butrytate??? but cant get any - not going to give up though moulded are lighter and look better. Nearly finished the A5 drawings now - now who wants to be a beta builder??

Gary

[pontious]

Hi Matt,
Great weekend ,You & Tracey were great company.Apart from the hypothermia & hangover (we must have got through everyones alchohol when we finished ours.)
Tell Tracey Wendy`s checkup did not go entirely to plan as they are concerned obout the operation scar infection & have done a biopsy .We have to go back for the results on Thursday.
I have some pics but they are over 100k how can I reduce them in size to post? Great Pic of my Camper by the way.Was that A10 impressive.
All the very best,
TER & WEND.

[bipeflyer]

Am sorry to hear that Terry-will tell her later.Likely it won't be anything, hope all goes okay.Give my best regards to Wendy.

I have a free download URL to get an image optimising programme for .jpeg use:
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/convertImage/
Just keep playing with it until the left hand window displays the file size you want,very good for a free programme!
It was a laugh, here's a photo to remind you!
I reduced this image using the programme above.

Cheers! :)

Matt

Gary-Do you have a vac forming machine? I got my A4 sheets from my local art shop. Or try model railway dealers,they seem to use a lot of it too.
If not, send me your plug and I'll pull one for you!

[bipeflyer]

Found this- made me decide on a scheme for my Bucc. Also makes me think what a beautiful model a twin EDF version could look like.. :)

[Geecee]

Hi Matt

Wonder how heavy that model is?? A quick question - do you have the Bucc plans in anything else than PDF? my sons school laser cutter accepts most drawing files including DXF and he has permission to use it to cut some things for me. Ill do you a deal if I can :D If you provide drawings and I can get them into cad and get them cut - Ill send you a set of laser parts if all goes well. Are the formers balsa or liteply?

One more question - if you open the airbrakes in flight are you sure the motor wont drop out? :p

Gary

[Geecee]

Hi Matt - Any news or updates?

Gary

[bipeflyer]

Hi Gary. Sorry, nothing new as yet,am still figuring out how best to make a propshaft extension..until I have that nailed down,no more progress.
A shame, I don't have it in .pdf or any other format as yet,but will want to redraw the plans to reflect the update,will be interested in your proposition at a later date though.

In the meantime, I have started a refurbishment on my Flanker,am carving a new nose section to graft on after chopping off the old nose.

Anyone have any thoughts on an extension shaft for my Mega motor in the Bucc?

As for the Lancer project, I went to pick up some more blue foam sheets from my regular supplier, and they have moved! Distance a bit far to go get some, so will wait until I have a car again I think...

Don't know where the model in the pic came from, just discovered it whilst browsing, could have been somewhere like Farnborough I suppose,but wouldn't it make a nice plug for a light glass mould? :)

Matt

[monkamarm2000]

I had the same thoughts on mine Matt, it would have helped the balance situation of my light foam version. I was trying to figure a way to run a CF shaft through another using the outer as a support for inner. there must be an RC car bearing out there that would work in some way. Maybe a plte epoxied to the motor to help line it up?

Barry

[Geecee]

Hi Matt
Dont know if they would be any use as bushes for your propshaft but I have some phospor bronze bushes here. 2 types one just a tube 15mm long 8mm o/d and 5mm i/d and another type that is 7mm long 8mm o/d and 6mm i/d at one end and 3.5 at the other. (the 6mm is drilled down 6mm of the 7mm length) We have used these at work for bushes for rotating parts although not at the revs of our motors. Just a thought if you need to support a shaft as they are quite light in weight.

Gary

[Fire42]

Matt,
I've not looked at the thread in its entirety, but are you direct-drive or geared. What output RPM are you looking at and what sort of weight are you trying to move forward. I was looking at a shaft drive for a project myself and sourced a load of silver steel which is guaranteed straight to within fractions of a thou. I've got 3, 4, 5, 6 mm which you can get adapters for. Bearings are dead easy to come by. I've got 5mm carbon rod but it'll be a nightmare to get right if you are going DD, or you might get lucky and get it straight, alternatively, jig it up with silver steel to get the bearing positions right, then replace with carbon. Consider the fuz will move with environmental conditions so build in some degree of 'adjustability' Any use?? ;)

Dave....

[bipeflyer]

Thanks for your input and support guys-I have an adaptor here, also a shaft which used to support the fan in a DS-51 Shuebeler fan which I broke. :o If I can couple that up to another short shaft,I can fit a 'normal' prop adaptor to that.
Will need to dig out the parts and photograph them after measuring.

Still not certain on the exact length I will need,but will put my 3s2p 2600 lipo packs in the nose tomorrow,and jiggle the motor position into the rear fuse, of course making allowances for the extra skin it will be carrying after planking and working speedbrakes in the rear end too (nightmare) Dave, the motor is DD,so no extra gearbox weight to consider there too.Might need to take you or you and Gary up on your kind offer of help, which is truly appreciated.:)
I'll get back tomorrow with more data.
Barry,the system used in my pusher F-14 would suit your setup on the smaller Bucc. ;)

First we get the light battery technology, then we have to come up with some new technology to balance things out! :rolleyes:

[monkamarm2000]

Exactly! lol I had big plans of running some little 720's up front but even 6S wouldnt balance on my foamy! lol



Barry