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K2-tokyo
Dec 02, 2004, 07:04 AM
I found a pretty fuselage of Agusta 119 Koala for Zoom 400
in Graupner's home page. It looks cool. But the picture
is too small:

http://www.v-eastonline.com/linkroom.html

(at the bottom of the page.)

a large picture :

http://www.v-eastonline.com/4461%20Agusta%20A-119.html

ScaleBrad
Dec 03, 2004, 09:02 PM
Very nice, looks scale. When are these companies going to get off their butts and make this stuff available????

darthdrk
Dec 03, 2004, 10:15 PM
You guys have no idea what it takes to bring a product to market. The mold alone is very expensive whether it be for vac forming or fiberglassing. Its probably made by CNC which cost $$$. I simple helicopter fuselage mold for the zoom heli could run $3000.00 easily This could be for just one half of the fuselage. When I first started I was discouraged because of the cost. Going from place to place I gave up dealing with molding companies they were just way to expensive. Ive researched material to use and learned a few tricks of the trade for the home modeler. Although I have to make the mold by hand, they seem to come out pretty good and pretty close to scale(Not down to the panel lines or rivets). They have to be carefully maintained unlike the aluminum molds. If I was to put a price tag on all my molds and the time it took to make them, i know I Have at least $30,000-$40,000 invested easily. If these were all CNC aluminum molds I shutter to think what the value or cost would be. The Graupner A119 Koala looks awesome, I saw it a while back. I think it is a fiberglass body. Graupner has some really good stuff pretty much high end. If i was rich and had deep pockets, I wouldnt be making bodies myself, Id be purchasing mine like most people. Its a hobby that turned into a Job. Besides that, If I did have a body on my heli that I paid $200 plus for, Id be afraid to fly it. Id be the guy at the flight line who takes out his stuff for a conversation piece and will be making all the on lookers mad who will be there waiting for me to fly it. (It will never break ground :) )

K2-tokyo
Dec 04, 2004, 02:45 AM
Hi, Darthdrk

I prefer Agusta 109 than Agusta 119. So I bought your Agusta 109 Power
for Eolo and LMH! I am satisfied very much, and am planning to make an
MH68 with retractable legs.

pitts
Dec 04, 2004, 06:59 AM
If I was to put a price tag on all my molds and the time it took to make them, i know I Have at least $30,000-$40,000 invested easily. If these were all CNC aluminum molds I shutter to think what the value or cost would be.
I had to go through and price all my molds for the accountant; Scared the absolute crap out of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I saw the total, I thought about selling the lot, and buying some real nice RC toy's :D ... Somehow, I dont think the wife would see it my way!!!!!

ScaleBrad
Dec 28, 2004, 05:52 PM
Still waiting!!!! I want one!!!

SENECA
Jan 01, 2005, 05:57 PM
Might get one myself...nice!!




www.rchelispot.com

ScaleBrad
Jan 02, 2005, 11:39 PM
Last communication with vario... ETA 2-3 weeks from now.

IAD
Jan 04, 2005, 11:16 AM
<Edit: Didn't see the edit above linking to the larger picture>

Nice looking fuselage, definitely!


~Luke

K2-tokyo
Jan 23, 2005, 08:26 AM
Already available!
See
http://runryder.com/helicopter/t151267p1/

ScaleBrad
Jan 26, 2005, 11:29 PM
Just came available in US today, confirmed via email from Vario here....

SENECA
Jan 27, 2005, 04:52 AM
Price?...............never mind found it. :cool:

ScaleBrad
Jan 27, 2005, 11:34 PM
Ordered today, but it will be about 2 weeks before i can get around to installing it!!