BEAT power planes without diving!

[kewhite]

ive been beating power planes with my regent (see pic) without diving i get up high above 400 ft and find a groove a lift groove thats long and wide where i can fly laps back and forth like a pylon racer ,east to west I turn left hard and repeat i dont dive anymore cause the air seems slower down lower anyways im doing fine and getting more attention just staying high and flying level and fast we have lift here thats like 1000 ft long and maybe 300 ft wide to fly laps in at at
about 400 to 800 ft high.and like i said you dont get any lower even with down trim it just hauls ..

[Ollie]

Do it kewhite for you beating the power planes!!

The DS record is 249 MPH.

[webguyjv]

ive been beating power planes without diving i get up high and find a groove where i can fly laps back and forth like east to west turn left hard and repeat...

I don't understand.

Are you saying that you have a thermal duration glider, and that you somehow get it up high (on a winch, hi-start, bungee or handlaunch), and then you cruise a set course in the sky, and the power planes come up to your altitude, and race you, and you win?

Please explain as I'm confused.

It's possible that the power planes you're referring to are more like park flyers or trainers, that are not rated for speed.

If you really want to determine whether you're faster or not, you should try having an MOM race with those power guys on a set MOM course on a hilltop, cliff, levee or sand dune (slope soaring). This way you'll have two pylons set, and you'll have one person standing at each pylon, and that person can see who cut the turn first, etc...

If you don't do something like that, it's hard to visually determine (by looking at two planes high up) who's faster than who. This is why most racing is done on a pylon course. This is easy to set up - just a couple of long sticks, stuck in the ground with a person standing at each one.

Happy Flying ;-)

Webguyjv

[kewhite]

i get up high in a thermal my plane is a fully sheeted wing with an rg 15 airfoil and has lead ballast..we have lift here at our feild that is about
1000 ft long and 300 ft wide depending on the wind direction it is located east or west of our runway, after finding it i fly back and forth in an oval course. with out getting any lower i stay level at about 800 ft,my glider actually flies faster in this than i ever seen it fly on a dam slope soaring,,and power planes try to follow or i follow them they cant beat me.
ive beaten several extra 300's and large biplanes flying at full throttle.

[webguyjv]

...i fly back and forth in an oval course... ...power planes try to follow or i follow them they cant beat me...

I think this would be a really hard claim to substantiate unless you were within radar distance and someone clocked your plane and the power plane to determine actual speed. Also, it seems to me that it's inaccurate to make apparent judgements when you're dealing with an unbounded course that is 800 feet away from you.

In Man-On-Man racing (MOM), there is a judge standing at each pylon and they determine who crossed first.

Admittedly your glider is flying very fast, but IMO, it's hard to substantiate the claim that you beat the power planes on a racecourse, without some accurate measuring device.

Happy Flying ;-)

Webguyjv

[Ollie]

"ive beaten several extra 300's and large biplanes flying at full throttle." Not fast types as your glider on step and lead. Fast as ~50 MPH.

[webguyjv]

It would be good to talk to some of his flying buddies at the Gas Field to see what they have to say about his claims.

I'm guessing that he's just running some sort of an unbounded course (no mechanical devices to show the boundaries), and he's not keeping good track of the course the other guys are flying. Who's to say they're even at the same altitude - from his angle of view, they could be even higher, thus making their superimposed racecourse quite a bit bigger.

I say if he thinks this thing's so amazing, have him run a typical MOM with some other slope racers. He could even have a person with a radar to give him some speed readings.

This guy has made this very same post in the slope forum and I think even in the sailplane talk forum.

I wonder why.

Happy Flying ;-)

Webguyjv

[fprintf]

I once was in a snowmobile drag race from one end of a frozen pond to another. I was really pleased with myself as a newbie that I had beaten my mentor (girlfriend at the time). When we got to the end and stopped to turnaround I took off my helmet and whooped, "yeah, I beat you!". She responded - "next time, telling me you are racing and I'll squeeze the throttle a little more". On the way back down the pond I got creamed.

[Soar_dude]

fprintf Good Point!

Soar Dude

[webguyjv]

That is so true :)

Hey Soar Dude - do you see A6 Intruders buzzing your flying site?

I drove through your area back in 1990 or so, and I was amazed to see them fly by.

Whidbey Island is SO beautiful.

Happy Flying ;-)

Webguyjv

[mr.zagi5c]

stop posting kewhite unless you wanna actually provide proof

[kewhite]

i have witness willing to verify my claims,,

[yorbenator]

i don't hear any witnesses yet