Paddles on backwards

[Stickman]

Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise
surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on
backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1

[Kevin R]

I always thought the front tailblade rose through the down wash as well?? so
are the tail blades back to front as well
"Stickman" <keepmespamfree@spam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise
> surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on
> backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1
>
>

[Stickman]

Sure looks like it but reading the text surely not, its been flying for 2.5
hours over 4 months and never crashed...

The text from the add says all

"You are bidding for a ready to fly Raptor 30 V2 Helicopter with Radio gear,
Starting equipment & a few tools & spares, all worth around £1050. Just add
fuel & sunny weather & she's ready to fly.

It is in Mint condition & is only 4 months old, it has had no crashes or
hard landings & has only flown for two & a half hours. Professionally
built, setup & test flown. It has aMDS38 engine which has been run in.

Radio gear is an Sanwa RD6000 sport & servos, this is a six channnel, four
model unit, comes with Ni-Cad pack for Tx & Heli, also comes with charger.
GWS PG-03 piezo gyro fitted & setup.

A great model to start learning to fly or for 3D flying with a few small
adjustments.

Body & fins painted by myself but new body & fins come with the Helo.
Remote glow clip & battery charging connection fitted to allow for ease of
starting & flying. Inline fuel filters fitted all round. Accessories
include, Blade caddy, Two enya glow plugs, Inline fuel filter, Plug &
multi-tool spanner & Allen keys.

Starting equipment includes Hand operateted fuel pump, Clipon glow plug
starter & charger, Irvine Hi torque 12 Volt electric starter & starting bar
with one-way bearings.

If you have any questions please email me. I have more photos on request.
Winning bidder pays all P&P. Happy Bidding"





"Kevin R" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> I always thought the front tailblade rose through the down wash as well??
so
> are the tail blades back to front as well
> "Stickman" <keepmespamfree@spam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:40f8eab1$0$7796$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> > Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise
> > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on
> > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT.
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1
> >
> >
>
>

[Stickman]

I am trying to add up the value that he claims, some model shop must be
rubbing their hands with this guy.

Why has it got a nice purple tail boom if its never been crashed.
"Stickman" <keepmespamfree@spam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Sure looks like it but reading the text surely not, its been flying for
2.5
> hours over 4 months and never crashed...
>
> The text from the add says all
>
> "You are bidding for a ready to fly Raptor 30 V2 Helicopter with Radio
gear,
> Starting equipment & a few tools & spares, all worth around £1050. Just
add
> fuel & sunny weather & she's ready to fly.
>
> It is in Mint condition & is only 4 months old, it has had no crashes or
> hard landings & has only flown for two & a half hours. Professionally
> built, setup & test flown. It has aMDS38 engine which has been run in.
>
> Radio gear is an Sanwa RD6000 sport & servos, this is a six channnel,
four
> model unit, comes with Ni-Cad pack for Tx & Heli, also comes with charger.
> GWS PG-03 piezo gyro fitted & setup.
>
> A great model to start learning to fly or for 3D flying with a few small
> adjustments.
>
> Body & fins painted by myself but new body & fins come with the Helo.
> Remote glow clip & battery charging connection fitted to allow for ease of
> starting & flying. Inline fuel filters fitted all round. Accessories
> include, Blade caddy, Two enya glow plugs, Inline fuel filter, Plug &
> multi-tool spanner & Allen keys.
>
> Starting equipment includes Hand operateted fuel pump, Clipon glow plug
> starter & charger, Irvine Hi torque 12 Volt electric starter & starting
bar
> with one-way bearings.
>
> If you have any questions please email me. I have more photos on request.
> Winning bidder pays all P&P. Happy Bidding"
>
>
>
>
>
> "Kevin R" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:NaaKc.99$sT5.89@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > I always thought the front tailblade rose through the down wash as
well??
> so
> > are the tail blades back to front as well
> > "Stickman" <keepmespamfree@spam.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:40f8eab1$0$7796$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> > > Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise
> > > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on
> > > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Kevin R]

I did ask the seller why the paddles are back to front after being built by
a" professional" no answer as yet
Kevin
"Stickman" <keepmespamfree@spam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I am trying to add up the value that he claims, some model shop must be
> rubbing their hands with this guy.
>
> Why has it got a nice purple tail boom if its never been crashed.
> "Stickman" <keepmespamfree@spam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:40f9613e$0$7792$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> > Sure looks like it but reading the text surely not, its been flying for
> 2.5
> > hours over 4 months and never crashed...
> >
> > The text from the add says all
> >
> > "You are bidding for a ready to fly Raptor 30 V2 Helicopter with Radio
> gear,
> > Starting equipment & a few tools & spares, all worth around £1050. Just
> add
> > fuel & sunny weather & she's ready to fly.
> >
> > It is in Mint condition & is only 4 months old, it has had no crashes
or
> > hard landings & has only flown for two & a half hours. Professionally
> > built, setup & test flown. It has aMDS38 engine which has been run in.
> >
> > Radio gear is an Sanwa RD6000 sport & servos, this is a six channnel,
> four
> > model unit, comes with Ni-Cad pack for Tx & Heli, also comes with
charger.
> > GWS PG-03 piezo gyro fitted & setup.
> >
> > A great model to start learning to fly or for 3D flying with a few
small
> > adjustments.
> >
> > Body & fins painted by myself but new body & fins come with the Helo.
> > Remote glow clip & battery charging connection fitted to allow for ease
of
> > starting & flying. Inline fuel filters fitted all round. Accessories
> > include, Blade caddy, Two enya glow plugs, Inline fuel filter, Plug &
> > multi-tool spanner & Allen keys.
> >
> > Starting equipment includes Hand operateted fuel pump, Clipon glow plug
> > starter & charger, Irvine Hi torque 12 Volt electric starter & starting
> bar
> > with one-way bearings.
> >
> > If you have any questions please email me. I have more photos on
request.
> > Winning bidder pays all P&P. Happy Bidding"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kevin R" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:NaaKc.99$sT5.89@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > > I always thought the front tailblade rose through the down wash as
> well??
> > so
> > > are the tail blades back to front as well
> > > "Stickman" <keepmespamfree@spam.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:40f8eab1$0$7796$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> > > > Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise
> > > > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on
> > > > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Beav]

"Kevin R" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> I did ask the seller why the paddles are back to front after being built
by
> a" professional" no answer as yet

Now ask him why the tail blades are arse about face too. You'll probably get
TOTALLY ignored:-)



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[Beav]

"Kevin R" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> I always thought the front tailblade rose through the down wash as well??
so
> are the tail blades back to front as well

Indeed they are, and yoou've REALLY got to love the thinking behind the
paint "scheme". Every part is different from any of it's partners:-)

Seems like a bit of a "Heli bits glued as one" type of thing to me, AND done
by someone who couldn't build a heli if his lfe depended on it.



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[Kevin R]

hes ignoring me on the first question anyway
Kevin
"Beav" <beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Kevin R" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:jdgKc.141$sT5.76@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > I did ask the seller why the paddles are back to front after being built
> by
> > a" professional" no answer as yet
>
> Now ask him why the tail blades are arse about face too. You'll probably
get
> TOTALLY ignored:-)
>
>
>
> --
> Beav
>
>
> Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
> (with the obvious changes)
>
> Beavisland now lives at
> www.beavisoriginal.co.uk
>
>

[Helicraz]

Stickman wrote:
> Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise
> surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on
> backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1
>
>

Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor
backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything.

Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better gyro.

[X5]

The power and reliability from the MDS engine helps him a lot.

Curtis, Jason and all the others need to watch their backs with this star.
"Helicraz" <NoSpam@Goaway.spam> wrote in message
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> Stickman wrote:
> > Just been looking at Ebay, £400 for this Raptor (No bids - surprise
> > surprise) Professionally built, shame the builder put the paddles on
> > backwards, includes an MDS 38, real class.....NOT.
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2563&item=5909766528&rd=1
> >
> >
>
> Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor
> backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything.
>
> Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better gyro.

[E. Hill]

> Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor
> backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything.
>
> Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better gyro.

Umm... This is in the auction... "I have recently fitted a new stainless
steel flybar and the helicopter was test flown this saturday having put the
paddles the right way around"

So, he installed a new flybar, made a mistake, took the photos, and then
fixed the problem and tested... What's the problem with that?

Eric

[Kevin R]

"E. Hill" <anybody@anywhere.com> wrote in message
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> > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor
> > backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything.
> >
> > Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better gyro.
>
> Umm... This is in the auction... "I have recently fitted a new stainless
> steel flybar and the helicopter was test flown this saturday having put
the
> paddles the right way around"
>
> So, he installed a new flybar, made a mistake, took the photos, and then
> fixed the problem and tested... What's the problem with that?
>
> Eric
nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well????????
Kevin

[E. Hill]

> nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well????????

Mirror photo?

[Steve R.]

Mirroring the photo wouldn't make any difference. The front half of the
tail rotor disk is either turning upward, into the main rotor downwash, or
it's not. I've seen the photo, and tail rotor blades are mounted backwards
from what they should be. Of course, he could have the belt drive twisted
in the wrong direction, thus turning the tail rotor backward from what it
should be, so the blades would be mounted correctly in this case but the
point is, the model is "not" setup to factory specs.

FWIW!,
Fly Safe,
Steve R.


"E. Hill" <anybody@anywhere.com> wrote in message
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> > nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well????????
>
> Mirror photo?
>
>

[X5]

So lets get this straight, never crashed, paddles on backwards, new tail
boom, tal blades on backwards. So thats the
tr.................................uth

Yea right..
"E. Hill" <anybody@anywhere.com> wrote in message
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> > nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well????????
>
> Mirror photo?
>
>

[Beav]

"Kevin R" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> hes ignoring me on the first question anyway

It's generally what happens Kev.


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[Beav]

"E. Hill" <anybody@anywhere.com> wrote in message
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> > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail rotor
> > backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything.
> >
> > Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better gyro.
>
> Umm... This is in the auction... "I have recently fitted a new stainless
> steel flybar and the helicopter was test flown this saturday having put
the
> paddles the right way around"
>
> So, he installed a new flybar, made a mistake, took the photos, and then
> fixed the problem and tested... What's the problem with that?

He forgot to polish all that rust too:-)

That machine looks FRIGHTENINGLY like a 1980's Heim Star ranger, but
"something" doesn't make me guarantee it, but whatever it is, it's not a 3D
machine although in it's day it WAS regarded as a pure "Hooligan" heli.
That's assuming it IS a Heim.


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[Colin Taylor]

Beav wrote:
> "Kevin R" <dontemailme@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:ZozKc.192$Z15.18@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>
>>hes ignoring me on the first question anyway
>
>
> It's generally what happens Kev.
>
>
The description has been revised... it now ends with

"I have recently fitted a new stainless steel flybar and the helicopter
was test flown this saturday having put the paddles the right way around"

He's obviously had a few questions on this...

Personally, I think the paint scheme is pretty nice - at least it's
different :)

Colin

[Dave]

"E. Hill" <anybody@anywhere.com> wrote in message
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> > nothing but the tail blades are on backwards as well????????
>
> Mirror photo?
>
>
Not you selling it is it Eric?


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[E. Hill]

> Not you selling it is it Eric?

No, no. Just grinning at all the speculation around the auction, and playing
devil's advocate.

Although, I wonder about the new flybar, in light of a statement of no
crashes or hard landings.

Eric

[Beav]

"Beav" <beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "E. Hill" <anybody@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:fsudnfNVs9nk-mHdRVn-rA@adelphia.com...
> > > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail
rotor
> > > backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly anything.
> > >
> > > Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better
gyro.
> >
> > Umm... This is in the auction... "I have recently fitted a new stainless
> > steel flybar and the helicopter was test flown this saturday having put
> the
> > paddles the right way around"
> >
> > So, he installed a new flybar, made a mistake, took the photos, and then
> > fixed the problem and tested... What's the problem with that?
>
> He forgot to polish all that rust too:-)
>
> That machine looks FRIGHTENINGLY like a 1980's Heim Star ranger,


Well it WOULD be if I was looking at the right pigging heli :-))))



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[X5]

Cor, The bidding has ended with no bids.

At the price (£400) did it include CY's left thumb?
"Beav" <beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Beav" <beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote in message
> news:10ft4pknqjt4kbd@news.supernews.com...
> >
> > "E. Hill" <anybody@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:fsudnfNVs9nk-mHdRVn-rA@adelphia.com...
> > > > Eh.. fly 3D using a heli with GWS PG-03 gyro ... and paddles+tail
> rotor
> > > > backwards? He must indeed be a professional flyer... can fly
anything.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe he will works magic with a properly built heli with a better
> gyro.
> > >
> > > Umm... This is in the auction... "I have recently fitted a new
stainless
> > > steel flybar and the helicopter was test flown this saturday having
put
> > the
> > > paddles the right way around"
> > >
> > > So, he installed a new flybar, made a mistake, took the photos, and
then
> > > fixed the problem and tested... What's the problem with that?
> >
> > He forgot to polish all that rust too:-)
> >
> > That machine looks FRIGHTENINGLY like a 1980's Heim Star ranger,
>
>
> Well it WOULD be if I was looking at the right pigging heli :-))))
>
>
>
> --
> Beav
>
>
> Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
> (with the obvious changes)
>
> Beavisland now lives at
> www.beavisoriginal.co.uk
>
>

[Beav]

"X5" <keepmespamfree@spam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Cor, The bidding has ended with no bids.

Shock horror :-)))


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