Flying Quaker 84"

[No Step]

I wanted to share one more Oldtimer with you guys. This Flying Quaker was built from a Midway Models partial kit. Very fun, laid back flyer. Details on my web page.
https://home.comcast.net/~guilfoyle72/
The dumby engine fools >lots< of people.

Fred

[Gerald]

Nice Fred! Is the dummy engine supposed to look like any particular one? Reminds me a bit of a Rocket .46 from this view

[No Step]

I sorta modeled to match a Brown Jr., but nothing serious.


Fred

[Cebola]

Nice Model!!!!

[Mike C]

LOL I like the engine. Might have to try that one of these days.

[Chas]

Try for the full scale version, with oil spray pump and shaft-driven eccentric vibrator! Now, how could we replicate the sound....?
;-}
Chas

[BMatthews]

....Now, how could we replicate the sound....?
;-}
Chas

WHAT ? ? ? ? You never put a baseball card in the spokes of your bicycle as a kid? :D When I was young we figured that if one made an engine sound and two was even better (it was) so LOTS would be SUPER. We put so many on that we couldn't pedal at more than a slow walking pace. But it sounded like a Ferrari... :D

Iterestingly enough Berkley or some other early company included a little reed of material that you were supposed to build into the nose block to just clip the prop of your rubber powered model as it turned. It had a copyrighted "Engine O'Matic" or some equally silly name with it. More likely it probably ensured that the model wouldn't fly at all...

[Chas]

LOL! Used to use my Mom's clothespegs too, so that come washing day they were all back in the basket, snapped in two.
There was a full article in the RCM&E in the eighties giving constructional details for a sound board and electonically driven "clapper" system to replicate the ominous blat! blat! blat! of the twin Vickers. A long way from the subconscious neeeoooooooowwwww! in which we all indulge.

Actually what I was hinting at was that we could just mount on OS40FS....
:-0

Chas

[perwer]

I have an original one, built in 1956 with a Brown Junior in it...
It has never flown, maybe one day :)

[Ian Easton]

I have an original one, built in 1956 with a Brown Junior in it...
It has never flown, maybe one day :)


Nows the time laddie :p Lets fly that thing!

[ifr2lax]

NoStep,

I just bought a Midway models Quaker 84 at a Hobby Shop closing.

The spruce wing spars were bent and cracked from age...they were about 1/2 too long for the box...the balsa was great but the spruce did not age well in any event...brittle and worthless...I was surprised.

Looks to be a great build after replacing the spars and a few other pieces.

Any thoughts on making the wing in two parts?

I have plans for several old and large vintage ships and decided the once over 60 inches or so need to be two piece wings...84 inches is pushing the upper limit unless you have a van...and room on the ceiling of the garage.

Would like to hear your ideas on the motor, props, battery packs as your flying progresses.

Pete

[Airboatflyingshp]

:D For a low tech budget option take a look at the Majestic major build thread or a reasonable quality buggy motor and 3.5/4:1 gearbox swinging a 12 inch prop of appropriate pitch.........for wing joining well theres loads of comercial wing joiners available ....but theres also this link to a Falcon built with a wing box.................I will put it up here when I find it............ :D :D :D http://www.mfarchive.modelstuff.co.uk/mf033/airspace.htm :)

[Tim Wolff]

I'm in process (slow) of an 84" Quaker that I've modified to a two-peice wing. The short flat center section dosen't lend itself to building a good strong wing anyway. I'm using a nice beefy steel rod in brass tube. Both sides of the joiner box are faced 1/16" aircraft ply shear webbing. The center section is cut in half and each half joined to the outer wing panels. The 12" rod extends well into each wing panel. Basically, the same way it's done on the Olympic II sailplane. Mine's for SAM Glow LER and will have a Jett .40 on the nose. I'll take a pic of my progress next time I have it down off the rack.

[ifr2lax]

At 84 inches the Quaker is in the realm of two piece wings...

Please post your methods to achieve a good, tight reliable wing joint.

I keep hearing about a brass/steel joint...seems like two nesting aluminum tubes could do the same thing...

For all of us that need ideas, please describe your method.

Thanks,

Pete

[David Hipperson]

What works well for me nowadays is 6mm carbon rod in aluminium tube but steel in brass has long been a favourite with sailplane fliers. What can be a problem with aluminium inside aluminium is that sometimes if they work against each other you'll get pick up between the rod (tube) joiner and the tubes in the wing. In my earlier days I actually found that with a very close fitting alloy rod in tube I could not get the wings apart. You'll also be suprised how easy it is for a bigger model to bend the joiner tube. Steel inside ally also works and personally I'd stay with dissimilar materials.

[ifr2lax]

No-Step,

It appears your web page is locked...it could be my router/firewall/Norton, I dunno.

Anyone else tried to view the page?

Appreciate any ideas on how to get access.

Pete

[No Step]

I do not have a web page specific for my Quaker anymore. I lost everything to a computer problem I had awhile ago. I managed to restore everything but the Quaker. Today is a nice sunny day. I will take some photos restore the page.

Fred

[No Step]

Oh geez, I see the problem I have my old home web page listed. I edited it on post #1. Here it is so you don't have to go back https://home.comcast.net/~guilfoyle72. I'm making a new Quaker page today.

Fred

[No Step]

My Quaker web page is up now, click on red link below the Quaker picture. Pictures and stats. soon to follow, some later today.

Fred

[Evan D]

I have 105" and 200" (16 foot) span Quakers that have plug in wings, the wings get tabs that fit into boxes buit into the cabin top, all ply, very strong. I do fly with struts because I do a lot of tight loops, rolls, and inverted flying. I did have a wing come off on the first 105" I built but on that one the tabs where light ply. I don't know where or if I still have build pictures that I use in the instructions I sell with the plans for the 105", that was two computers ago. I have drawings of all the parts, and instructions with my plans, but I sell those. I can take some new pictures if you e-mail me.

[AllanK]

Wow, do you take the family on holiday in that one!

[gwinhh]

I made a 2 piece wing on my Quaker. Built the center section in 1 piece with a balsa 1/16" rib between 2 1/16 ply ribs and 2 - 6" pieces of 3/8" (I think) brass tube under the main spar and about 3" back, filled in with balsa. Then I cut the two halves apart with a razor saw and sanded the balsa down to the plywood. Cleaned up the brass tube and used a telescoping brass tube as a joiner.

Hope this makes sense.
howell